What are some of your "warning sign" bands? - When you hear someone says they like X band then it's time to ask for the check.

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As I only go to metal concerts 99% of the time I usually just look at people's metal vests before I decide if it's worth talking to the person bc there are several red flags on a vest.

- only patches from mainstream metal bands bc you don't dig deeper into what the genre has to offer
- only bands signed to Nuclear Blast bc all Nuclear Blast bands sound the same and suck
- patches from mainstream labels/mailorder brands like EMP
- patches from Wacken Open Air
- festival wrist bands sewn onto the vest
- mostly/only patches from bands that only release digital shit on bandcamp but have no real physical releases. Fuck all these bandcamp-only bands.

I am a simple man. If your vest sucks, you suck.
In 2023 I'm impressed if there are no BLM or "Trans Rights are Human Rights" patches

Slipknot = Pending or resolved Failed suicide attempt
I mean, can you blame them?
 
Plenty groups mentioned in this thread are fine in doses (Ramones) or have different periods appealing to different tastes (Grateful Dead) but hardcore fans of anything are pretty dreadful.
I'd have to agree with you here. It's not the band, it's the fan more often than not .

It's a red flag to me if your behavior starts resembling Captain Ahab regarding anything.
 
Most men who proclaim to be a fan of 100 gecs, boygenius, or Mitski cannot be trusted. Either closeted troon/gay, or a flagellant professional ally with skeletons in the closet. Gecs fans in particular are the worst, I swear so many have built their identity on being the Fantano of their friend group and are afraid to admit that some modern music just fucking sucks for fear of looking like a boomer.

Sufjan Stevens is a yellow flag. 50/50 that he's normal, OR he's going to kill himself/make love to a man within a year. (The same can be said for Sufjan)

Conversely, if a guy preempts any conversation about The Smiths with "zomg Morrissey is a horrible shitty racist, I wish he'd die, Johnny Marr is an angel tho haha" I'm going to assume he's an insufferable, weak-willed Twitter faggot. I've never been proven wrong.
 
Brother, people who like later bladee don't magically hate earlier bladee.
I disagree with this. Because drainers stopped gatekeeping after 2020, bladee's newer fans starting thinking all his music is "~:3!!". His sound has drastically changed and I don't think newer fans appreciate the objectively superior depressed bladee.
He might have fallen off a bit but singles off Crest are still good.
That's because most of the songs on Crest were made in 2020.

Anyone who says they like Eversince are just hipsters BTW, that shit is ass.
No. Sugar, Romeo, and Who Goes There are great songs.
 
Why?

For me they're basically the go-to band for people who want to LARP about being punk or punk-conscious, which is fitting since I've heard they were somewhat of middle-class LARPers themselves. I find them insufferable, not as much as Bono but pretty close, and they're basically the prototype for RatM.
Oh, they were middle-class? No wonder I found them to be so try hard.
 
In this video here, the guy pretty much emphasizes that the band is washed-up, but Mick is great. The comments section is entirely full of people praising Mick and trashing the rest of the band, and talking about how their shows suck...except for Mick's guitar:

This is the current go-to quote now that Mick is suing. I'm sure some of them always liked Mick. But a lot of them are bandwagon nut swingers because it's fun to hate on Nikki for being a poser, Tommy for being borderline stupid and Vince being lolfat (also he killed a guy and crippled some people for life). The only thing that makes Mick stand out is that he kept a lower profile. Also he's in his 70s and physically disabled so some people feel bad for him.

He's saying that the band gaslit him about being forgetful and not remembering the songs. I was actually wondering if he is getting forgetful and being defensive about it as that is common. I'm not saying he's senile or that he can't remember the songs. Or that he's wrong about the music being pumped in and his ability to play live. But he's in his 70s and has a serious condition. Life can't be very fun or easy when you can't even move your neck anymore and have bamboo spine. I assume it impacts his performance in some way. It probably hurts a lot just to strap on the guitar.

Same with the Ace thing. I mean it was always there. But the recent drama made it worse because there are some major Spaceman fans who acts like he's a god. I think most of those people are older fans who saw Ace live as kids and went out the next day and got a pawn shop guitar.

Bandwagon nuts wingers who suddenly LOVE a member after some drama or firing are a red flag regardless of band. These people like someone because other people like them and that's what you do. You hop on the bandwagon.
In my experience, KISS fans are exclusively "metalheads" stuck in the 1980s. You know the type. Ones who actually listen to Eddie Trunk, long for the days when MTV showed the same three shitty Motley Crue videos over and over again, and still, in the year 2023, bitch about Nirvana killing "metal" AKA their buttrock. Sometimes still involved in the scene, so they may actually like a few modern or even 90s bands, but have an irrational hate for grunge.

I don't get those fans and their irrational hate for grunge. Not disliking the music itself. But the autism behind it. I think that hair metal was on the way out anyway. It was a decade of the same stuff. Only the beginning was really unique. Once record execs saw that the kids were into it then they started signing anyone who had the right look. If you got your big break in 1992 then you weren't going anywhere. The whole thing started running out of steam by itself. There were some good bands and riffs but most of the lyrics were vapid fuck me suck me stuff. Winger is actually very talented but only known for a jailbait pop song about a girl who's only 17. Same with Warrant. Forever that Cherry Pie band.

The term "grunge" was manufactured by media anyway. Chris Cornell talked about this in an interview. I don't think any of the bands associated with the genre were gung ho about the media corralling them into a box to sell a trend.
 
I've had the fortune of never meeting anyone who has been a fan of a tranny that makes music. However, if I do meet one, I will know to avoid him like the plague. It's impossible to separate your image from transgenderism if you're a tranny artist. So if you are into that music, I'm assuming you're liable to troon out or are a foaming-at-the-mouth "ally."

maybe talking out of my ass here, but future funk/nu disco is kind of a hotspot for this because of the manic positive vibes and guys like Macross that linked it with the anime girl aesthetic. future funk and nu disco are sometimes genres for me but half of the new artists I find in this space give me mad troon vibes even if they aren't trooned out themselves. just look at this fucking guy. as far as I can tell he's just a regular british soyboy but if somebody told me he secretly likes to put on lace lingerie and jerk off to his own reflection I'd be inclined to believe it at face value. I don't dislike his music on a surface level but it's got a weird vibe to it. idk maybe I'm just too pozzed by the internet to enjoy some things anymore
 
slightly off-topic: If someone says they like classical music because "it's relaxing", assume they know nothing about classical music other than five pieces they don't even listen to, just have on when studying or something. They don't actually like Classical music, they just use it as wallpaper while actually liking basic bitch garbage pop music. If you say your favourite composer is Mozart, you're also suspect, bucko. Also if they say a classical piece is "metal before there was metal" or "if X composer was alive today he'd totally start a metal band, dude!" they're probably a brainlet or a classical fan trying to get others into classical music in the most condescending, retarded way possible.

on-topic: If they say, "oh, I pretty much like everything" they listen to the radio and their Youtube reccomendeds only. Basic bitch.

"Billie Eilish is the best mainstream artist right now!" There are a number of possibilities, none of them good. Number one: Autistic and generally listens to bizzare/boring/irritating shit That's not weird enough to be interesting and not composed well enough to be good. You might find a catchy melodic line somewhere among the mumbling/screeching and I/V progressions.
Number two: Is a "boss bitch" with a personality disorder who should drink bleach.
Number three: Hates men, hates her dad, takes pills and has been or is currently "going through a hoe phase" (Like Billie Eilish herself). Probably thinks she's a 10/10 but is actually quite unattractive (also like Billie Eilish herself).
If the Eilish lover is male, I don't know what to tell you. Possibly autistic, possibly a hipster, possibly homosexual idk.

"Taylor Swift is so deep." RUN. She has a lot of ex-boyfriends, and you WILL be her therapist if you're dumb enough to date her. If it's a man, I dunno, probably a huge fag or something.

Sewerslvt: If male, Projekt Melody is the most normal porn he watches (and he watches A LOT of porn) and he may insist that you call him "she" when he starts approaching his thirties. Was bullied a lot and probably considered stealing his dad's Glock more than once. If female, a monstrous-looking gutter demon who has probably molested either a drunken passed out man, a drunken passed out woman, or a child at some point. Probably has a sus Discord server.

"Gorgoroth is the greatest metal band in history!": Talks (and smells) like a militant atheist neckbeard, but turns out to be a massive neo-pagan faggot who worships the Vikings and doesn't actually know much north European history. Has only had sex with fat chicks. If female, is one of said fat chicks and has a wind tunnel vagina from all of the smelly Gorgoroth fans she's had sex with. Is probably also a neo-pagan faggot. Possibly also an ethno-nationalist, the ethnicity in question being one to which they don't belong but larp as.

Rage Against The Machine: Average leftoid. Identifies as either Communist or anarchocommunist or some other flavour of fringe leftist ideology, owns an Iphone, insists that there are no alternatives to Iphones. Smells bad and has objectively bad political takes on practically every political and social topic there is. Caffeine addict. either trust fund kid or grew up super poor in an abusive home (and they will make it your problem) Debatable whether their IQ is simply average or in the nineties but it's certainly not high.
 
Taylor Swift has become such a red flag for me, have to hear her music all the time cause relatives, and the more i pay attention to it, the more cuntish she comes across, which is concerning because im assuming the girls love her music cause it's relatable for them

Chick is like 35 or so and she writes herself as a stunted teenager
 
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Without fail will get into an autistic screaming match over whether the band should be considered punk or goth. For extra spergery tell them that goth is just an offshoot of punk so the argument is moot either way. They WILL have the last word no matter what.
As a huge Banshee fan myself this never comes up because people assume they're either goth, or just correctly think they're at the intersection of the two. I've literally never seen this come up and I almost used a Siouxsie avatar instead of Nina Hagen...

KORN/SLIPKNOT: The second I see this, I instantly know what you are. I have identified my foe. The once-mallgoth, the Hot Topic lurker, the guy who shops at Spencer's unironically and probably pegs himself. Was a goth in high school, with a tattered and ratty head of dyed-black hair to match the crusty fingernail polish. Frequently in trouble for extremely stupid and retarded hijinks. Gets high behind the bleachers after school or bums a cigarette from a friend. The black hair dye has soaked through past the meninges and, acting as a neurotoxin, has affected all regions of the brain, to the frontal lobes and capability for more difficult problem solving and properly appreciating things, to the temporal lobe, where audio signals are processed. These people rarely rise above fast food, although family nepotism tends to help them build careers they otherwise shouldn't have had.

THE DEAR HUNTER: Your ultimate prog rock hipster. Absolute audiophile, tremendous faggot. His music tastes are better than yours even if most of the rest of what he listens to approaches more towards mainstream things. Will talk your ear off at length about how prog rock is actually more intellectual than classical music, and is the ultimate evolution of musical excellence. Will also faintly praise better, way more popular bands like Yes while considering himself to have developed a far more sophistical aural palate and thus having graduated and moved on from prog bands like them. His fridge is stocked with Pabst Blue Ribbon, he lost his hair ages ago compensates by growing a Tim Pool beard, and he used to be kind-of funny ages ago but then he started dating that feminist girl and he says he's changed and now he's just really fake and gay. He will loudly attack and bash any other non-prog music as "pop music" and use the term pejoratively. YOUR MAGGOT BRAIN CANNOT COMPREHEND THE HEARTFELT SINCERITY AND INTELLECTUALISM OF THIS MUSIC AND THE TECHNICAL EXCELLENCE OF THAT FLAWLESS 25 MINUTE GUITAR SOLO IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OBTUSELY-WORDED ROCK OPERA WITH A PLOT RENDERED NONSENSICAL AFTER 38 OTHER TRACKS HAD TO GET OMITTED TO BE ABLE TO FIT IT ON A VINYL. Is impressed by gratuitous use of bagpipes in rock music. Attends Reddit meetups.
 
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Tyler, The Creator fans - as reflected by the Bastard-Goblin to Post-Flowerboy shift: are all too frequently dudes who had a past history of openly/flauntingly doing the most heinous/nefarious shit; and are now larping as saccharine 'le innocent UwU woke artsy fartsy smol beans' as soon as it became trendy/fashionable.

The common denominator profile typically being economically privileged but behaviorally disheveled kids - either spoiled to hell and back by their daddies and never taught discipline nor empathy - or otherwise had a sleezy, superficially charming 'crown prince of the uncanny valley' high end sales commissioner/entrepreneur parent living a shady double life (and likely assraping his son behind the curtains) - hence the overcompensation by acting like a tryhard 80's cartoon schoolyard bully caricature.

You know that recently emerged trope of rapacious college-aged fratdouches who abruptly start they/theming just to conveniently evade/dodge cancellation? That encapsulates Tyler and his greater listenerbase to a T.
 
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