Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Kars den Karb]

Here's him elaborating on his failed attempt to scam some money out of his old uni:
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I can't put my finger on it, but this story seems very off. Why would the philosophy dept agree to sponsor videos and never bother watching them before publication? Even the first one? Why didn't Olly's contact go to bat for him instead of Olly having to show old emails to legal? And "just taking it down" is, in fact, how youtube works, and nobody would "have his head" for doing so. He could just reupload the video without the sponsorship. Does such a video exist anyway?

If such a conversation with some faculty did happen then I suspect it would be something along the lines of that Dutch professor who politely analyzed how Oliver's theater kid queenery is the point of the show, not philosophy. There's probably much more about the story that doesn't make sense.

 

[brocktherock]

They've made his head/jaw look fucking massive. Presumably he looks at this and sees a sexy and sophisticated théâtreuse rather than a giant, disembodied face attached to a non-existent cleavage floating in the darkness. I'm surprised he's not holding a skull in his hand (what is that hand gesture supposed to be?) to really drive home the air of pseudo-Shakespearean pretension.

His hand is blurry like it was moving while they were taking the shot, he can't even pose right.

 

[The Jackal]

I can't get a handle on Alice at all. Ollie's clearly got a tranny fetish, and Devon obviously thought he'd get followers and pussy if he changed his pronouns, but I can't figure out the motivation for Alice dressing like that. The receding hairline, round glasses, and 70s colour palette make him look like Jimmy Savile.

Shedding his hijabi-fetish cocoon to reveal Mr Blobby as a nan is the most interesting thing a troon cow has done in ages.

I would say Alice's motivations for trooning out are partly sexual, partly for social credit. His sexual motivation is different to Olly's though. I'm not a psychologist or anything, so no need to take my opinion too seriously, but the kind of sissification fetish Alice indulges in to my mind seems like a convergence of misogyny and masochism, with probably a dash of repressed homosexuality in childhood thrown in for good measure - men like this despise women, but also get off on being despised. Assuming the role of a woman (or rather their conception of a woman - a being whose only purpose is to be sexually used and humiliated) is thus a natural step. Probably some potent mummy issues in the background somewhere.

The other reason for transitioning is to acquire status as a member of the trendiest 'oppressed' minority, a motivation shared by all three of the KJB team. The same motivating factors were likely behind his supposed conversion to Islam - he gets to be a member of a trendy minority, while at the same time living out his fantasy of being a dominated Muslim wife who gets beaten and put in her place. The fact that he totally abandoned the dress code just to show off his hair treatment demonstrates how seriously he took the whole thing.

Here's him elaborating on his failed attempt to scam some money out of his old uni:

I can't put my finger on it, but this story seems very off. Why would the philosophy dept agree to sponsor videos and never bother watching them before publication? Even the first one? Why didn't Olly's contact go to bat for him instead of Olly having to show old emails to legal? And "just taking it down" is, in fact, how youtube works, and nobody would "have his head" for doing so. He could just reupload the video without the sponsorship. Does such a video exist anyway?

If such a conversation with some faculty did happen then I suspect it would be something along the lines of that Dutch professor who politely analyzed how Oliver's theater kid queenery is the point of the show, not philosophy. There's probably much more about the story that doesn't make sense.

It's very, very weird. None of it makes sense. Olly's definitely not presenting an accurate version of events here. A university might sponsor a graduate student's project if it was some kind of serious academic endeavour, but they would never have paid Olly for the amateurish, high-school-level content he was doing at that time. I don't even know why he thought they would.

 

[toobular]

In this weeks episode of KJB Toob abuses a councilor canvassing for the local elections in May.

 

[AssignedEva]

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In this weeks episode of KJB Toob abuses a councilor canvassing for the local elections in May.

Unfortunately this is a Patreon exclusive, so we can't triangulate his position by finding out what councillor it is. Although he's apparently not in London right now, since we had our local elections last year. There are elections in Newcastle, though, so maybe he's back up with his parents.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Here's him elaborating on his failed attempt to scam some money out of his old uni:
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Why did he e-mail every "major" university in the entire country to ask them if they wanted to sponsor a shitty YouTube series in which the pitch is "I'm an about to graduate student from another university trying to compete against you to reduce your value"? Then he was surprised they said "no lol" instead of watching anything so they'd definitely know to say "lmao no"?

I believe most of this story because it sounds stupid and narcissistic enough for him to do. I imagine the specifics he's eliding are that he asked his department to sponsor and they said yes since he was a student and he claimed it was a sponsorship from the university who said "lol no of course not" and then the administration told the department it was stupid and they shouldn't have. (Possibly with the department saying they didn't agree to exactly what he was claiming.) I can't imagine anyone involved in this scenario actually agreeing to give him enough money for him to think he was getting a "regular job" out of it, but I can see him sending them a fucking invoice for a "sponsorship" where the entire value is associating him with their university's infinitely more prestigious brand like he thinks the university is the one benefiting from being sponsored by his channel.

Totally not surprised he wasn't remotely smart enough to navigate the administrative structure of his own university. "If you can't do, teach philosophy through YouTube!"

 

[Nigor]

It's uncanny how much Alice looks like some guy cosplaying my aunt margo at a wedding or something. Devon actually looks like a relatively normal guy from what I've seen. Sorry I mean relatively normal "theme fatale"

 

[DDR Yoga]

Why did he e-mail every "major" university in the entire country to ask them if they wanted to sponsor a shitty YouTube series in which the pitch is "I'm an about to graduate student from another university trying to compete against you to reduce your value"? Then he was surprised they said "no lol" instead of watching anything so they'd definitely know to say "lmao no"?

I believe most of this story because it sounds stupid and narcissistic enough for him to do. I imagine the specifics he's eliding are that he asked his department to sponsor and they said yes since he was a student and he claimed it was a sponsorship from the university who said "lol no of course not" and then the administration told the department it was stupid and they shouldn't have. (Possibly with the department saying they didn't agree to exactly what he was claiming.) I can't imagine anyone involved in this scenario actually agreeing to give him enough money for him to think he was getting a "regular job" out of it, but I can see him sending them a fucking invoice for a "sponsorship" where the entire value is associating him with their university's infinitely more prestigious brand like he thinks the university is the one benefiting from being sponsored by his channel.

Totally not surprised he wasn't remotely smart enough to navigate the administrative structure of his own university. "If you can't do, teach philosophy through YouTube!"

It highlights how different people like him are and why they're often successful. I, as a pleb, wouldn't even dream of begging universities to fund a youtube channel for me, yet he, son of millionaires, has no qualms whatsoever about panhandling his way around the halls of academia.

Imagine how many times he's asked for a leg up or how many times he's used his parents contacts. Imagine how many times he's left his dignity at the door to beg for a favour when any normal person would just keep their head down.

Media, entertainment, politics etc. is full to the brim with brown-nosing, shameless grifters.

 

[The Jackal]

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In this weeks episode of KJB Toob abuses a councilor canvassing for the local elections in May.

Did he just 'they/them' a politician who almost certainly identifies as a 'he' or 'she'? That's some pretty heinous shit, Olly, I hope you're ready to get cancelled.

 

[Swimminglanes]

His so called sponsor can't pay an invoice without going through a procurement process.

You never do any work without getting onto an approved suppliers list and getting a purchase order. Emails are irrelevant.

Why would lecturers want to pay to use his crap? They probably laughed when they saw the quality of it.

I haven't watched much of his stuff but the thing I saw about transphobia was pathetic.

He's standing there going "your dad says this". I was underwhelmed. Your dad smells is the standard of 11 year olds in the playground. He's still not grown up though. Can you imagine the procurement process for a video of him squashed into his latex tubing? Nope, me neither.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Nothing special here, just the usual humbleness which we all associate with the big massive CHOOB.

Although, let it not be forgotten that these 'best friends' had never been in a room together until last year, at a live show.
lol.

Rather painfully, I bet it would've never even occurred to the other two reprobates to loudly proclaim- as tube has a few times lately- the triad as their 'best friends'.

Incidentally, BFF-RIP Paris Lees, 'Best Friend' in the acknowledgements of The Prince play handbook, where Alice and Devon weren't mentioned ( if indeed yet known) ....and of course poor, tragic Claire; whose...uhmm, plans to Take Over the World Toobgetha, have been indefinitely cancelled.
Holy glib narcissistic love-bombing, shallow and hollow relationships, FatMan!

Kind of weird how we come to know all the people he variously calls his 'best friends'. A tragic hybrid of work-friendery and clout chasing;
As huge, wide and shiney as a Choob! Oh but yet; as shallow and insincere...as a Choob.

Next, the handmaidens tale:

My bet is this is a regretful, detrans, was-Gayden; who needed a man like Ol Lies to lead her out of the darkness and demonstrate, via his disgusting boastfulness, that she need not be ashamed of being 'biologically female', just like him...

Bringing us to the following:

This is intriguing.
This combined with his recent new impassioned rant about how he IS biologically female, how it took 'a hell of a lot to get here', and how if there was a door you could only walk through if you were female, he could walk through it.
Leads me to believe he may well have gotten ....the chop!

He's up at his parents rn, isn't he?
I think he's up there recovering. Mad bastards only gong and done it! LOL.

Either that or this particular usage of [RETARDED] just = a massive dildo.
Seriously though, think about it: think about his work ethic, think about how he's desperately trying to best Contra in one of their arenas, after constantly being mocked from all sides for being 'the Contra at home'.

I can see him running into this trying to get one up...by cutting his own cock off, lmfao it would be Olly.

Despite his feud against the NHS, he's demonstrated that he's happily, whole heartedly opted out of it and is not above getting his needs met with immediate effect elsewhere.
Significantly, it would also go some way to explaining why he's constantly moaning on about not being able to afford a house, despite it being insult-to-intelligence level obvious he could with his income.

IDK. He was swanning about on the Tube the other day (his big size 11 breaking he escalator incident) so I dont know if he's had time to pop into an OR..
But its a theory I enjoy for now.

Oh, if only he had come through on pretending to consider doing a stream about all the things gotten wrong on his KF thread, eh?

 

[DDR Yoga]

If he had any plans to turn his tube inside out, I can't imagine he'd go about it quietly.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

It highlights how different people like him are and why they're often successful. I, as a pleb, wouldn't even dream of begging universities to fund a youtube channel for me, yet he, son of millionaires, has no qualms whatsoever about panhandling his way around the halls of academia.

Imagine how many times he's asked for a leg up or how many times he's used his parents contacts. Imagine how many times he's left his dignity at the door to beg for a favour when any normal person would just keep their head down.

Media, entertainment, politics etc. is full to the brim with brown-nosing, shameless grifters.

The hubris of it is amazing and he doesn't realize it so he just tells the story like he's some victim of some nefarious system.

It's not unusual to maybe ask your department to help you get started with some promotion or I guess maybe to let him mention his university or something so it sounds more important. Professors, especially ones you know, are more than fine to ask to spread word or whatever, pretty standard social relations stuff so already a challenge for a lolcow but still possible. A professor you're on really good terms with even if he thinks your shit sucks might mention it to some people or show his class or something just to be nice. There would be nothing unusual about any of this or even him hitting up everyone he could in the department especially because it does, somewhat, tie in to his degree.

But no, he asks the greatest universities in Britain with all their illustrious histories, only one of which he has any connection to, to pay him to mention their name in his YouTube series. (Do you think he even investigated the amount to see if he was undercutting what YouTube would require to place on an ad on his videos? Not a chance.)

Even funnier, still to this day he has no idea why they said no. Maybe I should send him an invoice for sponsorship of my Kiwi Farms posts in his thread.

 

[AfghanBlue]

If he had any plans to turn his tube inside out, I can't imagine he'd go about it quietly.

IDK...he has acted more cagey about his transition stuff in general, and might have learn its actually a totally shit idea to be public about this specifically...but he doesn't generally seem capable of learning these kind of lessons.

its optimistic, indeed, the time frame is unlikely, I just think it would be very, very funny for him to accidentally swot his dick off .

 

[scathefire]

Nothing special here, just the usual humbleness which we all associate with the big massive CHOOB.

"This amazing little community of queer people", lmao. If only "queer" didn't signify people who are far less interesting than they believe themselves to be, Choob and his cohosts included.

 

[DDR Yoga]

IDK...he has acted more cagey about his transition stuff in general, and might have learn its actually a totally shit idea to be public about this specifically...but he doesn't generally seem capable of learning these kind of lessons.

its optimistic, indeed, the time frame is unlikely, I just think it would be very, very funny for him to accidentally swot his dick off .

I've always felt the transition was just a career move for Olly. Nothing feels real about it and his desire to downplay gender dysphoria strongly suggests he never experienced it. With that in mind, I'd be mightily impressed if he declared himself tubeless. It would show the kind of commitment I expect from my favourite transexual celebrities.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I've always felt the transition was just a career move for Olly. Nothing feels real about it and his desire to downplay gender dysphoria strongly suggests he never experienced it. With that in mind, I'd be mightily impressed if he declared himself tubeless. It would show the kind of commitment I expect from my favourite transexual celebrities.

its the indignation that makes me ponder though- he get sooo bent out of shape about being 'misgendered', and i can imagine him rushing ahead with ti simply because he'd been told no and he doesnt like being told what he can't have.

Not to forget, he might (incorrectly) assume that he was besting contrapoints if he got ahead in troonsition. Put the doubters to bed.

Also, loads of idiot troons who admitted not having any 'bottom dysphoria' stupidly get it chopped.
They dont mind what they've got, but the coom is drawing them.
Chop proactively for the coom, rather than reactively against the dysphoria.
They are the ones who end up coping mega hard when their new junk obviously sucks hard compared to thier perfectly fine previous arrangement.

 

[Tryphine]

Yeah, I think Tube's transition is partly business and partly fetish. He clearly had a thing for trans women even before he transitioned, and he wears latex fetish outfits whenever he gets the chance. Compare that to Dylan Mulvaney, who transitioned purely for business reasons; Dylan's outfits are way less sexualised, and he's repeatedly talked about his difficulty finding a partner. On top of that, Dylan had a number of successful sponsorships in his first year of transitioning, and Olly regularly complains about people refusing to work with him.

I think if Olly does get the chop, it would be for fetish reasons rather than for his career. Or as AfghanBlue said, to try and prove something to Hontra.

 

[Swole McPole]

It highlights how different people like him are and why they're often successful. I, as a pleb, wouldn't even dream of begging universities to fund a youtube channel for me, yet he, son of millionaires, has no qualms whatsoever about panhandling his way around the halls of academia.

The story makes no goddam sense at all. Universities are full of academics. Teaching and talking about philosophy is what they do, day in, day out, for a job. If you wanted to promote your university's philosophy post-grad programme, you'd get one of these academics to make YouTube videos for you. Most of the fuckers are so insecure about their jobs they'll do or say anything if they think it'll help get their contract renewed.

So why the fuck would you sponsor some wet behind the ears grad student from another university to make videos? Olly is either lying or he's deluding himself.

 

[scathefire]

Dylan's outfits are way less sexualised, and he's repeatedly talked about his difficulty finding a partner.

Honestly though I find Dylan's little girl outfits to be creepier than Choob's coomer latex. AGPs be AGPs.