US KC police chief says investigation of teen’s shooting is moving as quickly as possible - Auntie says teen went to wrong house to pick up his brothers, a racist cracka opened the door, saw a 16 year old choir boy and shot him in the head and then shot him again.

KC police chief says investigation of teen’s shooting is moving as quickly as possible
The Kansas City Star (archive.ph)
By Andrea Klick and Glenn E. Rice
2023-04-16 21:53:52GMT

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Police Chief Stacey Graves and Mayor Quinton Lucas, left, at a news conference Sunday afternoon. ANDREA KLICK

Police Chief Stacey Graves said Sunday the police department is working to make sure the investigation of the shooting of a Black teenager moves as quickly as it can so the case can be presented to the Clay County prosecutor.

“I want everyone to know that I am listening,” Graves said at a news conference at Kansas City police headquarters downtown, “and I understand the concern we are receiving from the community.”

The 16-year-old boy, who family members have identified online as Ralph Yarl, was hospitalized Thursday night after he was shot while trying to pick up his younger twin brothers. Police said he went to the wrong house and was shot at that house. They have not identified the shooter or his race.

Police initially said Ralph was in stable condition but had a life-threatening injury. His current condition has not been released, other than that he is stable.

Graves said Sunday that the homeowner who allegedly shot the teen was taken into custody Thursday and placed on a 24-hour hold.

While searching the scene for evidence, detectives found the firearm allegedly used.

Law enforcement released the suspect pending further investigation after consulting with the Clay County Prosecutor’s Office.

Graves said Missouri law allows a person to be held up to 24 hours for a felony investigation. At that point, the person must be released or arrested and formally charged.

In order to arrest someone, Graves said law enforcement needs a formal victim statement, forensic evidence and other information for a case file to be completed. Because of the teen’s injuries, Graves said police haven’t been able to get a victim statement yet.

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Ralph Yarl - Facebook, courtesy the family

Information that officials have now does not point to the crime being racially motivated, but Graves said that aspect also remains under investigation.

Investigators will also consider whether or not the suspect was protected within the Stand Your Ground laws, Graves said.

Officials would not confirm the number of times the homeowner shot the victim or where his injuries were.

Mayor Quinton Lucas, who attended the news conference, said the police department understands the community’s concern that the shooting could be racially motivated. He said some members of the police department attended Sunday’s protest in the neighborhood where the shooting took place to listen to community members’ concerns.

“There are a number of folks who are working on this case,” he said. “This is not something that has been dismissed, marginalized or diminished in any way. This is something that is getting the full attention of the Kansas City Police Department.”

Civil rights attorney Ben Crump told The Star on Sunday that his Florida-based law firm has been retained by the teen’s family.

“You can’t just shoot people without having justification when somebody comes knocking on your door and knocking on your door is not justification. This guy should be charged,” Crump said.

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Ralph Yarl - Facebook, courtesy the family

Crump has represented the families in several high-profile cases including Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, as well as Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and George Floyd.

He said the homeowner initially shot the teen in the head and then a second time after the boy fell to the ground.

The family has also retained Lee Merritt, a Texas-based civil rights attorney who has previously represented the family of Cameron Lamb, who was fatally shot by KCPD detective Eric DeValkenaere in 2019.

Crump said the homeowner’s actions were inexcusable and unjustified.

“After he had shot him, you could’ve closed your door and called the police. Why did you go out and shoot him a second time?” he said. “It’s outrageous, is what it is. It’s outrageous. You just shoot somebody because they knocked on your door.”

Crump said based on what he was told by the teen’s family, the shooter is white.

“It is inescapable not to acknowledge the racial dynamics at play,” he said.

Ralph was meant to pick up his brothers from a friend’s house on 115th Terrace. He ended up ringing the doorbell at a home on 115th Street, Faith Spoonmore, the teen’s aunt, wrote online.

Spoonmore said a man opened the door, saw Ralph and shot him in the head. When Ralph fell to the ground, she said the man shot him again.

Ralph got up and ran from the property, but he had to ask at three different homes before someone helped him. Kansas City police officers said they responded to the area around 10 p.m.

“Even though he is doing well physically, he has a long road ahead mentally and emotionally,” Spoonmore wrote in a GoFundMe she started to raise money for Ralph’s medical bills and other expenses.
 
In order to arrest someone, Graves said law enforcement needs a formal victim statement, forensic evidence and other information for a case file to be completed. Because of the teen’s injuries, Graves said police haven’t been able to get a victim statement yet.

... That seems kinda strange.
 
I don't use GPS just to piss off my phone addled little sister. I've lived here for ten years of course I can get around without some faggot telling me to turn in x feet.

The fact this dude may be a gunsmith, thanks @Lobo for giving one pertinent fact before jerking yourself off, leads me to think this nigger was trying to get some free guns.
 
If you're a gun owner and you support this kind of shit, congrats, you're retarded and you're the reason they keep successfully whittling away at our rights.
If I fucking shoot someone in the head during an altercation and they're still alive and about to get up I'm absolutely going to try and finish them off.

An 85 year old man is not going to win a physical altercation with a 16 year old teen who can survive a fucking headshot.
 
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If I fucking shoot someone in the head during and they're still alive and about to get up I'm absolutely going to try and finish them off.

An 85 year old man is not going to win a physical altercation with a 16 year old teen who can survive a fucking headshot.

Let's be fair, this isn't a video game or a bad movie. A person might survive getting shot in the head, a person might even be able to 'get back up' after getting shot in the head, but it's highly unlikely they're going to be in any state to be a threat to anyone else afterwards. Just go inside and call 911, at that point.

... At least, that would be the sane, non-clownworld suggestion. But we live in a society where making sure a person is dead lessens the chance you get sued. And I do mean lessens, because their family still might.
 
It appears on google maps that 115th Terrace and 115th St are on opposite ends of the city. Almost 30 miles apart.
Bingo, his whole "I was just looking for my friends house" claim falls apart when looking at it geographically.

His alleged "friend" doesn't live 30 miles away, get fucking real. He came out to the suburbs hoping for easy targets.
 
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Let's be fair, this isn't a video game or a bad movie. A person might survive getting shot in the head, a person might even be able to 'get back up' after getting shot in the head, but it's highly unlikely they're going to be in any state to be a threat to anyone else afterwards. Just go inside and call 911, at that point.

... At least, that would be the sane, non-clownworld suggestion. But we live in a society where making sure a person is dead lessens the chance you get sued. And I do mean lessens, because their family still might.
He was shot twice, at least once in the head and still had enough juice to run to three different houses - that's shocking.

Also calling 911 would only be a non-clownworld suggestion if you could guarantee non-clownworld cops to show up - as opposed to the "went for a taser and grabbed a gun, executed someone" cop or the "we went to the wrong address and shot the person opening the door" cops.
 
ho can’t navigate without a smartphone or GPS in front of their face deserve any problems they encounter
Eh, I grew up before smartphones, and I wasn't diagnosed with my spatial reasoning learning disorder until I was in my mid twenties either. I can read a map and plan a route on it, but it's very difficult for me to actually carry it out. If I had to go somewhere important like a job interview, I'd often make one or two trial runs to the place in advance to try and cut down the chances I'd get lost on the day of and miss my interview. Google maps is fucking amazing. Literally life changing for someone with my disorder. It's pure freedom, I can go anywhere now.

Bingo, his whole "I was just looking for my friends house" claim falls apart when looking at it geographically.

His alleged "friend" doesn't live 30 miles away, get fucking real. He came out to the suburbs hoping for easy targets.
Thirty miles out from where he should be? He would have missed multiple suburb signs, street signs, landmarks, notable businesses... not even someone like myself is that retarded, come on. That is beyond suspect.
 
Honestly when is the last time you've heard about a current day 16 year old forgetting their phone for any reason? Take a phone away from a modern teenager and it looks like they're having a drug withdraw.

But you're gonna tell me this kid "forgot" it, while going to a place he's allegedly never been to before, to pick up "siblings" who have been dropped off at a house that, again, he's never been to before? And the "wrong" house he ended up at was resided in by an 85 year old perceived soft target?

I mean I'm not ruling out the possibility that this kid was just incredibly dumb and horribly unlucky. But that desire to press X just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
I feel like one forgets” their phone when they want to commit a crime and don’t want a record of them being at that location. And who the fuck is this kid trying to open a door without knowing who is on the other side of it? If his brothers knew he was picking them up, they should’ve come out not had him come in. If this kid is innocent, he can thank all the other black kids his age who take advantage of people by faking being in distress so they’ll open the door and can get robbed. This guy is 85, he isn’t fighting anyone physically.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens considering this kid actually survived and we can get his side of the story. We usually just get speculation, in this case the kid can fuck up his own narrative.
 
Not taking any sides in this shitshow just yet, but with regards to the addresses, if you Google just 115 Terrace, you get someplace on the NE side of KC. If you Google 115 Street in KC, you get a location on the south side of KC named E 115 St. However, if you look at that location, you'll notice that the very next street to the south is E 115 Terrace as well. Could those two be the streets in question, since they are so close to each other. This would also explain the vast similarities between the two houses, as they were probably built at the same timeframe by the same developer, who would frequently use only 3-5 house "designs" when building a 100+ housing development.
Also, regarding the wounds, according to reports from his relatives, he was never in any kind of life-threatening situation, with his mom/aunt (?) posting that he is basically fine "physically" but will suffer from mental/emotional trauma. And the fact that he was sent home yesterday leads one to believe that, if he was shot once in the head, just above the left eye, it probably just grazed his scalp and didn't actually do any real damage to his skull or brain, and when he went down, the other shot went through his arm.
My money says a small 22 pistol.
Also, not a ballistics expert, but the pics of the kid in the hospital show what could be powder burns on his face, which would more likely indicate that he was shot at close range WITHOUT an obstruction, like a glass door. If he was actually shot THROUGH the glass door, the glass would have blocked most likely everything but the bullet itself.

Not saying the kid deserved it or the old boomer should get off....just adding some interesting food for thought.
 
You looking at the right place? They're in the same neighborhood:

Looking on street view, a lot of those houses look very similar. Even considering my already low evaluation of both teenagers and Melanin Americans, I'm not convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt either way.
Put yourself into the Air Jordans of a black teen nowadays. You don't have your phone (which is already super sketchy, but who knows) and you know you're heading to 115th terrace. From the looks of it, it's literally the next street down. It's dark and you don't have your zoomers gps, so you turn on 115th St and see like three or four houses that look similar. You don't remember offhand, or maybe you're high, so you knock on doors.

I'm playing Nigga's advocate here, but with the info we have right now, I don't know. Do we know if the other house is on the same block or is it further down?
 
His alleged "friend" doesn't live 30 miles away, get fucking real. He came out to the suburbs hoping for easy targets.
There's been more and more of these happening. The exurban bedroom town that my parents used to live in got hit by a lunchtime rowdies crew from the city 40 miles away, who went house-to-house one night last year stealing everything they could.

On a related note to that, it's absolutely un-fucking believable to me how many of those dippy fucking dolts in that neighborhood go to bed at night while leaving their car doors unlocked on their driveways.
 
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Not taking any sides in this shitshow just yet, but with regards to the addresses, if you Google just 115 Terrace, you get someplace on the NE side of KC. If you Google 115 Street in KC, you get a location on the south side of KC named E 115 St. However, if you look at that location, you'll notice that the very next street to the south is E 115 Terrace as well. Could those two be the streets in question, since they are so close to each other. This would also explain the vast similarities between the two houses, as they were probably built at the same timeframe by the same developer, who would frequently use only 3-5 house "designs" when building a 100+ housing development.
Also, regarding the wounds, according to reports from his relatives, he was never in any kind of life-threatening situation, with his mom/aunt (?) posting that he is basically fine "physically" but will suffer from mental/emotional trauma. And the fact that he was sent home yesterday leads one to believe that, if he was shot once in the head, just above the left eye, it probably just grazed his scalp and didn't actually do any real damage to his skull or brain, and when he went down, the other shot went through his arm.
My money says a small 22 pistol.
Also, not a ballistics expert, but the pics of the kid in the hospital show what could be powder burns on his face, which would more likely indicate that he was shot at close range WITHOUT an obstruction, like a glass door. If he was actually shot THROUGH the glass door, the glass would have blocked most likely everything but the bullet itself.

Not saying the kid deserved it or the old boomer should get off....just adding some interesting food for thought.
It was a 32S&W (not 32acp), an old cartridge that was originally black powder. Something like an 80 grain bullet at 750fps, pretty sedate - likely did not pierce the skull.

I have the probable cause statement, I'll post it later but I want to print it out and rescan it to strip Metadata. I don't know what PDFs carry around and I don't want to compromise my self.
 
If someone trespasses on your private property not only should you be allowed to shoot them you should be allowed to walk up to them and deliberately finish them off people who disrespect private property rights are not human beings.

Hippity hoppity get off my property

Walking up to a front door and ringing the doorbell isn't trespassing, brainlet. There were no "no trespassing" signs posted, and the SCOTUS has recognized "the knocker (doorbell, etc) on the front door is treated as an invitation or license to attempt an entry" and the Tennessee Supreme Court later expanded upon this "[T]he license granted to enter property to knock on a person’s door is not unlimited. Rather, it extends unless and until the homeowner provides “express orders” to the contrary."

According to the homeowners own story, he did not exchange a single word with the kid before shooting him through the glass door.

I will GLADLY do a 180 and change my stance if a single bit of evidence comes out that the kid was actually a criminal doing anything wrong. But as of right now, the kids story makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than the old mans story. I mean, I wouldn't expect a dumb criminal to be able to come up with "I was told to pick up my brothers at 1100 115th Street" and his brothers actually happened to be 1 street over at 1100 115th Terrace. That would require a level of planning I don't think a 16 year old criminal would be capable of.
 
You looking at the right place?

Maybe not. When I typed 115th St, Kansas City it took me to a 115 St is the south part of the city. Apparently it is also called Holmes Rd.

Lol KC bros, get your shit together with this street naming thing

Edit: LOL there is more than one set of 115 St and 115 terraces right next to each other. One in the N and one in the S. I've been looking at the rest of this place on the map and I don't think KC is even a real place. How can this shit be a real city?
 
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Saying "hurr durr shoulda had a GPS" is peak retardation.

Folks are rightfully pointing out that what has been told about this story isn't making a ton of sense. It isn't 'boy that dumb idiot got what he deserved because he didn't use his phone.'

It's more like: He goes to pick up his twin brothers, late at night. Presumably it's at an address he isn't familiar with because the story is that he not only knocked on the door of the wrong house, but also on the wrong fucking street.

E: Also, he's apparently suffered a traumatic brain injury but is able to recount exact details? How do we know this? I get that brains are fucking tricky things, but generally, folks tend to block out traumatic things like that and don't have great/any recollection of events immediately prior to whatever traumatic incident happened.

Oh, it was a statement he gave to LE from his hospital bed. Fucking good on him if his managing such a rapid recovery from being shot in the head. I'm sure there was no coaching from Merrit or Crump.

He's also a very intelligent student (band geek, taking collegiate level courses, allegedly) so it seems really fucking weird that this all happened the way it did.

When people start blasting missionaries or girl scouts for knocking on their front doors will you still support it? lol

If this was an instance of some retard being trigger happy over an honest mistake, yeah, it's not cool. But there's a big difference between someone like Byron Smith more or less plotting a murder and 'blasting girl scouts.'

And the reason there's so much skepticism is because we have cases like this where Unspecified Racial Background teenagers are doing some heinous shit to fuel that skepticism.

Either this was some guy being trigger happy and hoping to hide behind castle doctrine or there are details missing from the story. I'm not a big gun rights guy, either, but I'm also just retarded enough to realize that there might be something going on we might not be privy to.
MATI ratings only please.
 
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