Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Reading through this thread i've come to realize they aren't really alive, more just "exsting", or "technically not dead", but she's effectively dead, a living corpse at best.
She had a normal development up until Robyn strangled her with her vagina, so she came out looking like a baby, but at this point she's basically just a steak growing in a petri dish. "Alive," but is it really alive?

There's enough of a life-support system deep in the brain stem to keep the basic life functions like breathing and heartbeat going, for now at least. And her stomach can passively absorb the nutrients that they put in through her feeding tube. But she's not really living.
 
Luna is so profoundly brain-damaged at this point that I think it's unlikely her body would grow or mature to what could reasonably be considered "adulthood," even if it's alive that long.
Agreed. The fact that she's now smaller than Atlas except for the head makes me think her brain is so damaged that her body cannot grow normally. Since they don't really go anywhere or have contact with other people, it's possible that Luna will avoid getting any serious respiratory infections, which are a significant cause of morbidity and mortality among profoundly brain damaged patients. If Atlas is allowed to go to school, that will change in a jiffy, but they could keep dragging her along for years at this point.

Also, nice job not restraining your brand new puppy in the car, Globyn. For his safety and that of the car's other occupants, "Loki Bear" (Jesus God I hate his name, poor dog) should be in a travel crate or harness.

Even if she did know how to support her head, is there any evidence of memory permanence so she'd remember how?
No, she doesn't have enough brain to remember anything, and she also isn't capable of "knowing" anything. It's difficult to conceptualize how she's "alive" but not really living.

Medfags correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an infantile spasm, right? Since there's the jack knife motion and everything (and we know Luna isn't capable of consciously smiling).
You have a good eye. If I accomplish nothing else from posting on the Farms, I would be pleased if one person learned to recognize infantile spasms and was able to help a child.

Almost all infants with West syndrome, the epilepsy syndrome associated with infantile spasms, go on to be diagnosed with another form of epilepsy. Luna is old enough now that she'd likely be diagnosed with one of these rather than West syndrome. Those jackknifing movements are probably myoclonic seizures, which are characterized by jerking or twitching movements that only last for a few seconds. Often, though, they can happen in clusters of multiple seizures in a row.

Luna did have an EEG, and Robyn never mentioned it again. I would love to know the results.
 
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Y’all I had a German shepherd, good as gold, but her tail could easily accidentally knock over a child if someone was STUPID enough to leave them unattended. Robyn. I’m very concerned for Atlas.
One time my GS ran into my leg at full speed by mistake and I thought my leg was broken for a good ten minutes.
When they stand on their back legs they can reach 5-6 foot tall. They are super strong and powerful, and need an outlet for their protective energy. Speaking of which…
I know people disagree that dogs are influenced by their person’s energy, but I’ve never seen it so obviously with a breed than with a GS. Good luck with that Robyn. Loki will be trying to escape every time a door opens. He may even scale the back yard wall.
These dogs are excellent companions, with the right owners. Robyn, at home alone with Atlas and Luna is certain to lead to disaster. There’s no way it can’t. I don’t know what these two knuckleheads are thinking getting this puppy. It’s making me anxious just thinking about it.
 
You have a good eye. If I accomplish nothing else from posting on the Farms, I would be pleased if one person learned to recognize infantile spasms and was able to help a child.
Yeah I might be a childfree edgelord, but I have friends and acquaintances who have kids or would like them someday and that infantile spasms shit is scary AF. I'm admittedly still trying to wrap my head around how to tell if it's spasms vs. normal movement since some of the clips in the PSA that's been posted are so subtle. With Luna it's pretty easy since we know all her movements are seizures or reflex.

Pouring one out for poor Loki who's about to be as bored and understimulated as Atlas *sigh*
 
ROBYN YOU PSYCHOTIC BITCH WHHYYYY DO YOU HAVE ATLAS ON YOUR ONE TIT AND THE PUPPY DEATH GRIPPED TO YOUR OTHER TIT YOU FUCKING GROSS WEIRDO FREAK WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Maybe Robyn's autistic, she's basically doing the female version of Chibi's "I'm going to put my cat next to my boner for my dick picture". Robyn likes dogs and Robyn likes inappropriate beast feeding, so if you put the two together it's mega-awesome, right? Fuck, Luna isn't the only tard in the family.
 
Medfags correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an infantile spasm, right? Since there's the jack knife motion and everything (and we know Luna isn't capable of consciously smiling).
Could be seizures or brain stem damage. The involuntary smiling gives it away. Seizures occur at different part of the brain than that, not saying it couldn’t be spasms from seizures. She absolutely has a reason to have seizures. Vegetables often smile like this and people think it’s voluntary and “they’re back”. it’s just cause your brain stem is totally fucked. Honestly, I’d probably want to live after some head injuries, we can survive a lot and be relatively fine. any injuries involving the brain stem or any of that very important stuff back there is my stopping point... Kill me. You do not come back from that. I’m amazed she has lived this long. I’d pay good money to see her MRI now or at time of death
 
Robyn likes inappropriate beast feeding
That reminds me of Ancient Dionysian rituals where the maenads would suckle wild animal babies. It was depicted in plays like The Bacchae by Euripides:
Suckling in ritual is apparent in the artistic depictions of female followers having animals suckle from their breasts.
The Villa of the Mysteries, a series of frescoes preserved in a Pompeiian villa from the first
century CE, show scenes of Dionysiac initiation. In one frieze, a woman sits, half-clothed,
exposing one breast to nurse a deer (Bowden 2010, 132). In the Bacchae, the messenger
observed the Theban women in the mountains in their ecstatic state before being interrupted.
He noticed that some of the women “held in their arms a roe or wild wolf-cubs and gave milk” (Eur. Bacch 700) They imitated the role of wet nurse in rituals here, but used animals as opposed to humans.

Another Dionysian ritual was reenacting how Dionysus was torn apart by the Titans. This checks out with Robyn tearing up Luna's brain in the womb.
 
Also, nice job not restraining your brand new puppy in the car, Globyn. For his safety and that of the car's other occupants, "Loki Bear" (Jesus God I hate his name, poor dog) should be in a travel crate or harness.
Thank you.
PSA: pets need to be strapped in a moving vehicle. If you're in even a minor accident - say, someone even gently rear ends you at a red light - they become projectiles. Animals become living, bloody, toothy, clawed projectiles.
Buckle up your goddamn pets.
Buckle up their travel crates.
Buckle up your cat carrier.

That reminds me of Ancient Dionysian rituals where the maenads would suckle wild animal babies. It was depicted in plays like The Bacchae by Euripides:


Another Dionysian ritual was reenacting how Dionysus was torn apart by the Titans. This checks out with Robyn tearing up Luna's brain in the womb.
That is one hell of a reference.
 
Y’all I had a German shepherd, good as gold, but her tail could easily accidentally knock over a child if someone was STUPID enough to leave them unattended. Robyn. I’m very concerned for Atlas.
One time my GS ran into my leg at full speed by mistake and I thought my leg was broken for a good ten minutes.
When they stand on their back legs they can reach 5-6 foot tall. They are super strong and powerful, and need an outlet for their protective energy. Speaking of which…
I know people disagree that dogs are influenced by their person’s energy, but I’ve never seen it so obviously with a breed than with a GS. Good luck with that Robyn. Loki will be trying to escape every time a door opens. He may even scale the back yard wall.
These dogs are excellent companions, with the right owners. Robyn, at home alone with Atlas and Luna is certain to lead to disaster. There’s no way it can’t. I don’t know what these two knuckleheads are thinking getting this puppy. It’s making me anxious just thinking about it.

German Shepherds need a job.

That could be agility, or home guarding, or being a companion. But it has to match their energy.

My parents' GS was a guarder. Protective of her home and people, but accepting if the new person took the time to be sniffed and watched. She genuinely loved kids, namely the autistic boy whod glom for cuddles, and my toddler niece was her charge. She slept under her cot as a baby. She was also my guardian after a breakdown.

Enough said, you need to be able to handle, train and provide an outlet for that energy and I don't think they can.
 
Thank you.
PSA: pets need to be strapped in a moving vehicle. If you're in even a minor accident - say, someone even gently rear ends you at a red light - they become projectiles. Animals become living, bloody, toothy, clawed projectiles.
Buckle up your goddamn pets.
Buckle up their travel crates.
Buckle up your cat carrier.
Buckle up everything. If you recall back to high school mechanics, objects carry forces orders of magnitude above their weight when decelerated. Even at low speeds, a 4 pound object in a crash will hit you with the force of 50 or 100 pounds. There should be nothing in your car heavier than a wallet that can fly around in a crash because it'll fucking kill you.

I swear we are going to see Atlas being shoved on her tit until he's old enough to move out.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it's again one of those things where crunchy moms make things about themselves rather than the kid. Breastfeeding for longer than recommended isn't about your child's health, not really. It's about her, and her feeling close to the kid, and her need for him to be dependent on her.

She managed to get one kid that'll be dependent on her until she dies, isn't that enough for her?
 
Thank you.
PSA: pets need to be strapped in a moving vehicle. If you're in even a minor accident - say, someone even gently rear ends you at a red light - they become projectiles. Animals become living, bloody, toothy, clawed projectiles.
Buckle up your goddamn pets.
Buckle up their travel crates.
Buckle up your cat carrier.
It can also end really badly for them; shit, we've seen that even on the threads here. I follow the Tranch thread because I don't value my sanity and they lost a dog there because someone took a turn too fast and accidentally launched it out a window.
 
Idk guys I said it in a moment of disgust and bafflement but I've been having big thunks and Robyn being a tard herself would explain a lot.
- Lack of empathy for what she did to Luna and coldness towards Atlas. Just her general inability to admit fault and extreme self-centeredness
-Inability to make to make or keep friends
-Gullibility for falling for mlms and strong magical thinking
-Inappropriate social behaviors, especially around breast-feeding, unusual displays of hypersexuality
-Narrow range of interests and obsession with them
-Prefers to use the internet and elaborate fantasies to escape reality
-Weird sleeping patterns
What do you think guys, is Robyn a female autist Y/N? Are her followers literally following a tard that due to lack of empathy strangled her own child in the womb?
 
Idk guys I said it in a moment of disgust and bafflement but I've been having big thunks and Robyn being a tard herself would explain a lot.
- Lack of empathy for what she did to Luna and coldness towards Atlas. Just her general inability to admit fault and extreme self-centeredness
-Inability to make to make or keep friends
-Gullibility for falling for mlms and strong magical thinking
-Inappropriate social behaviors, especially around breast-feeding, unusual displays of hypersexuality
-Narrow range of interests and obsession with them
-Prefers to use the internet and elaborate fantasies to escape reality
-Weird sleeping patterns
What do you think guys, is Robyn a female autist Y/N? Are her followers literally following a tard that due to lack of empathy strangled her own child in the womb?
She’s just an arrogant selfish narcissist to me, no excuses
 
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