Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[AgendaPoster]

Vaccine patches on skin.

Could work with some microneedles attached. The first vaccines were basically done by scratching the skin to create an intradermal inoculation spot, hence the marks on older folks' arms.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

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you're upset because you get mean stickers and null doesn't. that's what it all comes down to.

The simpleton you are quoting held a grudge for over 2 years because I called him a manlet once, so this lead to me concluding he's 5'2. This upset him so much that he blocked me.

So he's legitimately not only 5'2 and such a genetically inferior specimen that he can't breathe with a mask on, but he's also terrified of a little jab and of a guy with a Hulk Hogan avatar on a shitposting forum

 

[AnOminous]

Next pandemic maybe they can make a pill instead of a shot. Add some food coloring to it too. It'll sell faster and the both side costs will be cheaper.

Make it a candy. Make it a gummy!

 

[Stan]

State mandates means repercussions for those refusing to take the vaccine. Which repercussions would be appropriate for our antivaxxies here, especially the ones that are the most antagonistic?
Which laws should apply? Fines? If fines are unpaid, should state start to expropriate them? Should states deem them epidemiologically dangerous to the vaxxed population and inter them like they do with psychiatric patients, upon which sedation and antipsychotics are routinely used?
What do you do with a rebellious state, like Florida? Let's say they elect a single issue candidate that refuses to enforce any federal mandate recommendations and considers the pandemic a conspiracy. What does one do? Send in the National Guard?
Mandates are only relevant when punishments for not following them exist, so punishments must be discussed in detail.

When I used to work in the hospital, it was company policy to get your flu shot or you’d have to mask up, social distance and follow sanitation protocol for all of flu season. When COVID vaccine was introduced a similar policy applied. Personally I would have been fine with sending everyone who wouldn’t take the vaccine on furlough, having been through the illness before the vax was available.

I don’t think it’s too much to ask people who are in high contact with both a highly infectious disease and people at high risk of infection to either comply with a vaccine mandate or get removed from the field. Actually I think it’s pretty stupid if you work in a healthcare, educational (esp younger kids who can’t get vaccinated and simply can’t do hygiene very well yet) or congregate care (think homeless shelter/jail) profession and don’t vaccinate yourself against all the usual suspects; dumb like drunk driving. You don’t really *mean* to hurt yourself or someone else if you drink and drive, nobody *wants* to spread the flu, and yet there’s a good risk of hurting yourself and others from that kind of recklessness; so it would make sense to put laws in place to discourage it.

Besides that, in places with at-will employment they can fire you for wearing green pants to work. So vaccine mandate or get fired seems totally workable to me.

 

[AgendaPoster]

When I used to work in the hospital, it was company policy to get your flu shot or you’d have to mask up, social distance and follow sanitation protocol for all of flu season.

Really? The local policy in "my" hospital was to provide flu shots, and that was it. Most workers did not bother with them. Masking was a thing only when you had to engage in an activity where it was required, and some personnel wore it when dealing with more, umm, sus patients like drunks and homeless folk.

So vaccine mandate or get fired seems totally workable to me.

That's complete lunacy.
Throughout 2020, people had to work directly with COVID patients. For nearly a year. Putting their lives and health at risk. Some were bullied by scared neighbors, who vandalized their homes, threw chlorine on their doorstep and more, terrorized that they would bring the virus home from their hospital shifts. That was common in April and March, as Italy's hospitals were overflown and military trucks had to take the dead away, and NY's victims were rotting away in refrigerating trucks.
And after all this sacrifice for one's community, you wanna fire them in 2021 if they don't take the shot, even as they were nearly all having antibodies?
Talk about psychopathy, lmao

 

[Stan]

Really? The local policy in "my" hospital was to provide flu shots, and that was it. Most workers did not bother with them. Masking was a thing only when you had to engage in an activity where it was required, and some personnel wore it when dealing with more, umm, sus patients like drunks and homeless folk.

That's complete lunacy.
Throughout 2020, people had to work directly with COVID patients. For nearly a year. Putting their lives and health at risk. Some were bullied by scared neighbors, who vandalized their homes, threw chlorine on their doorstep and more, terrorized that they would bring the virus home from their hospital shifts. That was common in April and March, as Italy's hospitals were overflown and military trucks had to take the dead away, and NY's victims were rotting away in refrigerating trucks.
And after all this sacrifice for one's community, you wanna fire them in 2021 if they don't take the shot, even as they were nearly all having antibodies?
Talk about psychopathy, lmao

Having worked with the people who were in the trenches in 2020 (being one of the people who were in the trenches in 2020 tbh) I did not meet a single one of them who was not highly interested in getting a vaccine ASAP to avoid dying the same way they’d watched a whole bunch of other people die, or worse, bring the disease home and then have their family get infected.

I really don’t think you’ll find too many vaccine conscientious objectors in the cohort of medical professionals who suffered through the darkest parts of the pandemic. Only exemption I’d provide is one on medical grounds (ie there’s some ingredient in the shot that you are allergic to etc.)

It’s not even that bad. The needle is tiny, you hardly feel it, and all I noticed was a sore muscle the next day. Is it a hill worth dying on?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Having worked with the people who were in the trenches in 2020 (being one of the people who were in the trenches in 2020 tbh) I did not meet a single one of them who was not highly interested in getting a vaccine ASAP to avoid dying the same way they’d watched a whole bunch of other people die, or worse, bring the disease home and then have their family get infected.

I really don’t think you’ll find too many vaccine conscientious objectors in the cohort of medical professionals who suffered through the darkest parts of the pandemic. Only exemption I’d provide is one on medical grounds (ie there’s some ingredient in the shot that you are allergic to etc.)

It’s not even that bad. The needle is tiny, you hardly feel it, and all I noticed was a sore muscle the next day. Is it a hill worth dying on?

Anti-vaxers claim that listening to Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson makes them know more about medicine than actual medical professionals

 

[Stan]

Anti-vaxers claim that listening to Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson makes them know more about medicine than actual medical professionals

ROFL alex Jones

“The water is turning the frogs gay and vaccines are a tool for liberal mind control!!! ~woo scary~ Buy my untested dietary supplements to support your manhood and mental clarity!!! *drinks 1/5 Grey Goose in a single chug and passes out in chair*”

 

[Wesker]

I never said that Stephen Colbert's writers were a medical authority or were even medical professionals.

Yet no one cites Tucker or Alex, and your diabetic boomer FatGPT brain keeps spouting the same pre programmed responses.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yet no one cites Tucker or Alex, and your diabetic boomer FatGPT brain keeps spouting the same pre programmed responses.

You retards are literally saying that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and that you are right, thus you are saying you know more about medicine than they do. I know you're a proud, admitted simpleton, so this logic may be tough for your brain to follow, but it's not too hard.

You tards get your talking points from boomer memes on Facebook, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and random schizos on 4chan. Then you claim that you know more about a subject than people who study it for a living

 

[Pissmaster]

Besides that, in places with at-will employment they can fire you for wearing green pants to work. So vaccine mandate or get fired seems totally workable to me.

If you think getting something suspicious injected inside your bloodstream is equally invasive as someone telling you what color pants to wear, I just don’t know what to tell you. That is straight up exactly like saying “well, look at what she was wearing, clearly she was asking for it” when explaining why you RAPED a lady. After all, something unwanted injected inside your body is no different from clothing choices, right?

 

[Fruttasecca]

You retards are literally saying that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and that you are right

Yes

 

[Pissmaster]

Spoiler: if you're out of the loop

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes

Did you register just to post that, or are you a sock?

 

[Johnny Salami]

You retards are literally saying that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and that you are right, thus you are saying you know more about medicine than they do. I know you're a proud, admitted simpleton, so this logic may be tough for your brain to follow, but it's not too hard.

You tards get your talking points from boomer memes on Facebook, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and random schizos on 4chan. Then you claim that you know more about a subject than people who study it for a living

my doctor died of a blood clot. After he suggested I stop eating 8 eggs a day and to take the vax. He is still facing a malpractice lawsuit that his family can't afford. Doctors are mostly there just to peddle drugs and they're bigger drug dealers than the guy that use to sell me weed

 

[The Punished Mitch]

You retards are literally saying that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and that you are right, thus you are saying you know more about medicine than they do. I know you're a proud, admitted simpleton, so this logic may be tough for your brain to follow, but it's not too hard.

You tards get your talking points from boomer memes on Facebook, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and random schizos on 4chan. Then you claim that you know more about a subject than people who study it for a living

99% of medical professionals will do whatever it takes to avoid getting fucked by whatever organization governs them and will do whatever the computer tells them to do ( and refuse to deviate under any circumstance ). 99% of psychologists and psychiatrists will attest to the fact that Dylan Mulvaney is a stunning and brave woman as long as they're on the clock, it's up to you to decide whether that's a genuinely held belief or if it stems from the fact that they'll get crucified for having any other stance.

Having a professional stance on the "vaccine" that deviates from considering it Manna is the career equivalent of going to Mecca to inform the pilgrims that Muhammed was a child raping schizophrenic.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

We are still having this argument?

The fact that the unvaxxed still have yet to drop dead on mass is proof it wasn't necessary lmao

 

[LeChampion1992]

You retards are literally saying that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and that you are right, thus you are saying you know more about medicine than they do. I know you're a proud, admitted simpleton, so this logic may be tough for your brain to follow, but it's not too hard.

The Experts got it dead wrong, mass masking didn't prove effective as once thought, not locking down countries was actually a better solution long term. go through History and you will see a trend of Experts getting it wrong.

If this was 1950 and some group of scientists said they're might be a link between lung cancer and chain smoking you would be calling everyone here a dumb retard for not smoking and yelling that it's good for your health.

You tards get your talking points from boomer memes on Facebook, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and random schizos on 4chan. Then you claim that you know more about a subject than people who study it for a living

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. What makes logically more sense? Republicans are always evil, religious people are always evil, anyone who doesn't let me do what I want is evil and bad and dumb and oppressive?

Or is there something they're saying I don't want to see because I have a one tracked mind. I'm going to go with a hint side blue are not the good guys and Side red are not as evil as you think.

Having worked with the people who were in the trenches in 2020 (being one of the people who were in the trenches in 2020 tbh) I did not meet a single one of them who was not highly interested in getting a vaccine ASAP to avoid dying the same way they’d watched a whole bunch of other people die, or worse, bring the disease home and then have their family get infected.

I really don’t think you’ll find too many vaccine conscientious objectors in the cohort of medical professionals who suffered through the darkest parts of the pandemic. Only exemption I’d provide is one on medical grounds (ie there’s some ingredient in the shot that you are allergic to etc.)

It’s not even that bad. The needle is tiny, you hardly feel it, and all I noticed was a sore muscle the next day. Is it a hill worth dying on?

Sorry for the double post.
The whole reason why people were conscious objectors in the first place is we saw large elements of social control and social engineering be used.
Method's like Track and Trace, vaccine passports, denying people from jobs who refuse the COVID jab, mandatory boosters for non health workers, I'm not anti vaccine, if you were able to hear a post from me circa 2019 I was probably more get your effing Vaccine then anyone.
The problem isn't the vaccine itself, despite some scares it isn't as bad as some of the hardcore anti vaxxers, but there are more then enough suspicious deaths around the vaccines to warrant many not to get boosted.

Again people are dying on the anti vax hill not because they're against vaccines, they're dying on the hill because they're seeing a loss of civil liberties. In Europe,Canada, and Australia people during the anti lockdown protests saw that their legal protections were more of an illusion.
The united states' if trump was reelected would have some sort of civil unrest that would make Portland and Kenosha seem like a baseball game.

I support vaccines, I support doctors, no reason not to get measles, mumps, or many other vaccines. I'm against the idea we need to create a social credit system for adults that separate the unvaccinated from the general populace.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Voter turnout for 18-24 was about the same as it was for other age groups, percentage-wise: https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/number-of-individuals-who-voted-in-thousands-and-individuals-who-voted-as-a-share-of-the-voter-population-by-age/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"}
This is from 2022, but it shows that 18-24 is about the same as other age groups.

You're just proving my point that most people are apolitical. They definitely don't spend their time seething about anti-vaxxers in the current year.

It's just that you're now coping hard with the fact that your theocratic, fascist beliefs are not popular among people under the age of 60, and the only people you share political beliefs with are terminally online shut-ins and elderly boomers. Then again, you take pride in having the worldview of an 85 year old man and then get upset when people don't want to live in a theocracy like you do.

Unfortunately you are delusional. Your twisted version of liberalism is not representative of the real world. Most normal people would be disgusted with someone like you who simps for transvestites and thinks it's good when they interact with children. You don't have to be religious to know that's pretty fucked.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Did you register just to post that, or are you a sock?

On that note, I've got a crazy idea no one has ever considered before.

You guys ever get the feeling HHH is Secret Watcher's alt?