Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Maginot]

hearing that tohou made someone trans because it was the first time they had read something that touched them that had characters. but they were all female, ergo being a female is being a tohou character

 

[Lavender Moth]

Trans widow here. First GF I was actually really serious with decided to troon. (Hence why she became my ex.) She is 100% the reason why I started down the path to TERFdom.

She did this completely behind my back, and it only came out of the woodwork before disaster hit because one of her TIF friends was playing vidjya with us and kept referring to her by he/him and some comically absurd male name that I had never heard of in my entire life until that moment. I confronted her the next day (in hindsight, props to me for not putting her on blast the night I found out, as I had been roaring drunk) and she confessed that she now identified as a man and had plans to go on testosterone.

I should have seen it coming, as she had even once tried to convince me that I was somehow trans (lol), but I laughed it off at the time, thinking it was nothing. I was a fucking dumbass.

Spoiler: Long Kinda Power Level-y Drama

At the time I was a fence-sitting TERF, I had one leg over in TRA land, but the other in TERFville. I told her I would still love and support her as a friend, but that, if transition was her wish, we had to break up, as I would no longer be able to feel any attraction to her. (I am speaking practically verbatim here; I was far, FAR kinder to this revelation than I ever should have been). Cue the narcissistic meltdown about how I am a right-wing bigot with "no empathy". When I questioned what the hell she meant by "no empathy", she gave me a laundry list of things I said that were not intended to hurt, but she applied her own meaning to what she had misinterpreted (rather than discuss things with me, like a proper loving couple) and ran with it as the truth, and immediately tried to use my "sins" against me as some sort of leverage or emotional currency for why I should stick around and watch as she transmogrifies herself into a pimply, greasy mound of grotesque human failure. In that moment I realized that by "no empathy" she actually meant "I should be allowed to violate your boundaries without any pushback or consequences" I dumped her at the end of our fight and never looked back.

It later came out that she was only dating me because she loved the idea of "having a trophy wife" and her intention was to marry me and force me to support her entirely with my nursing career while she, far more able-bodied that I could ever hope to be, lived in my house, unemployed, while writing vile kink porn or playing videogames all day. I used to have trouble keeping my house clean due to my severe orthopedic issues, and the entire time I was either at work or going to university, she never lifted a finger to help and instead would go up the street to visit my sister + mother and shit talk how messy my house was instead of helping me clean it. It also came out that she was angry that during one of the hurricanes that hit Florida & Georgia that year, people were mad at an animal shelter for deliberately letting pets who were being boarded there drown. Her reason for this was that "I don't see anyone getting this up in arms about little black kids* drowning!" as if somehow being angry about the idiotic and cruel conduct of an irresponsible boarding facility means I also can't care for children displaced or killed by natural disasters at the same time? Truly headass way to act, I'm certain she would be so gleefully happy if she left her many pets in the care of professionals only to come back and discover "tee hee, sowrry, we weren't prepared for flooding IN FUCKING GEORGIA in a class 5 storm, so we let them all drown while locked alone in cages uwu"!

*bitch was white as fuck and lives in whitey whiteville. We are very far North.

In hindsight, it's really funny that she though a struggling, sickly dyke was a "trophy wife" but, then again, she was so fucking lazy that she refused to even work a job at McDonalds despite having no disability or reason not to.

I honestly dodged more than just a bullet; I dodged an entire firing squad. Bitch wanted a surrogate mother, not a partner. In the end, I came out a better and wiser person, so I guess I have her to thank for turning me against TRA nonsense and being a big proponent of LGB without the TQ.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

@Lavender Moth
I don't know you open you'd be to answering personal questions, but have you been harassed by other people in the trans community? They really hate True and Honest lesbians over there, and I wouldn't be surprised that in their minds, it's your fault that your ex is a lazy ableist POS like every other tranny.

And another peak for me: How troons can get consistently defended no matter what. There's literally no beneficial reason to let them have ""rights"". Everywhere they go, they leave a trail of destruction in their wake. How many ruined lives, rape victims, and murder victims will it take for their handmaidens to go "Wait, something isn't right here"?

 

[Kiislova]

I honestly dodged more than just a bullet

My God, you did dodge a bullet on that story.
What I don't get is why would the troon expect a LESBIAN to be attracted to a True And Honest MAN (I presume your ex is on the "trans men are men" carrousel) and get upset over it. It is but the most expected outcome of "becoming a man"

As Fishi puts it, did the falling off with your former SO had any further repercussions? Because if it did, it is beyond retarded even when using their standards.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

My God, you did dodge a bullet on that story.
What I don't get is why would the troon expect a LESBIAN to be attracted to a True And Honest MAN (I presume your ex is on the "trans men are men" carrousel) and get upset over it. It is but the most expected outcome of "becoming a man"

As Fishi puts it, did the falling off with your former SO had any further repercussions? Because if it did, it is beyond retarded even when using their standards.

I believe it's been mentioned somewhere much earlier in the thread, but troons also expect straight women to be attracted to their True and Honest "wives" when they come out.

 

[Lavender Moth]

@Lavender Moth
I don't know you open you'd be to answering personal questions, but have you been harassed by other people in the trans community? They really hate True and Honest lesbians over there, and I wouldn't be surprised that in their minds, it's your fault that your ex is a lazy ableist POS like every other tranny.

Many times. Several friends dropped me after the breakup and after I said I would not date a trans person, period. To put it bluntly: Women look disgusting & uncanny with roided up testosterone bodies, and men who have surgically tinkertoyed a segment of their own asshole to where their dick should be are not women. Just as a man is not a woman, a butthole transplant is not a pussy, and I would not have sex with it.

I have been harassed many times on dating apps. Every incident of harassment committed against me was by a transwoman. Every. Single. One.

The absolute worst was a 40+ year-old transwoman who DM'd me from nowhere asking if I could be in a DDLG relationship with him where he acts as my "mommy" and I play as his "bratty underage daughter". This was on a normie dating website btw, his level of forwardness and pedophilic degeneracy was truly something next level.

I actually used to be pretty active in irl pride events, but I haven't been a part of the "scene" since 2018, pretty much since the heavy push of trans stuff in my area. I truly do not feel safe anymore due to how I have been treated by transwomen.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

I did not fully hate them with active malice burning in my chest until I saw how quickly and easily they will turn on one another. They poison everything they touch and corrupt all that posesses beauty, and if we must destroy the planet, set fire to the sky, boil the seas, or poison ourselves to death, to rid us of this lunacy, then so the fuck be it.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

Many times. Several friends dropped me after the breakup and after I said I would not date a trans person, period. To put it bluntly: Women look disgusting & uncanny with roided up testosterone bodies, and men who have surgically tinkertoyed a segment of their own asshole to where their dick should be are not women. Just as a man is not a woman, a butthole transplant is not a pussy, and I would not have sex with it.

I have been harassed many times on dating apps. Every incident of harassment committed against me was by a transwoman. Every. Single. One.

The absolute worst was a 40+ year-old transwoman who DM'd me from nowhere asking if I could be in a DDLG relationship with him where he acts as my "mommy" and I play as his "bratty underage daughter". This was on a normie dating website btw, his level of forwardness and pedophilic degeneracy was truly something next level.

I actually used to be pretty active in irl pride events, but I haven't been a part of the "scene" since 2018, pretty much since the heavy push of trans stuff in my area. I truly do not feel safe anymore due to how I have been treated by transwomen.

And then trannies on twitter whine about how LGBalliance is some right wing gayops. Wow, maybe that wouldn't be a thing if your community wasn't full of homophobic incels. There's not one tranny that will take responsibility for their actions, that's why they're trans.
I can't help but laugh when I see them fear-mongering about TERFs. "It's a big meanie conspiracy full of sexual predators with gross fetishes!" after dismissing the hundreds of stories people have of abuse by transgenderism. I guess believe all women doesn't apply any more. Look in the mirror.

 

[Jacques1194]

Many times. Several friends dropped me after the breakup and after I said I would not date a trans person, period. To put it bluntly: Women look disgusting & uncanny with roided up testosterone bodies, and men who have surgically tinkertoyed a segment of their own asshole to where their dick should be are not women. Just as a man is not a woman, a butthole transplant is not a pussy, and I would not have sex with it.

I have been harassed many times on dating apps. Every incident of harassment committed against me was by a transwoman. Every. Single. One.

The absolute worst was a 40+ year-old transwoman who DM'd me from nowhere asking if I could be in a DDLG relationship with him where he acts as my "mommy" and I play as his "bratty underage daughter". This was on a normie dating website btw, his level of forwardness and pedophilic degeneracy was truly something next level.

I actually used to be pretty active in irl pride events, but I haven't been a part of the "scene" since 2018, pretty much since the heavy push of trans stuff in my area. I truly do not feel safe anymore due to how I have been treated by transwomen.

Hey, not sure if i'll get a response but as a lesbian what do you think the majority of LGB people think of trans issues?From experience it feels likes 30+ don't buy this nonsense and do see the contradictions.Sadly though, it feels like many young gay people are brainwashed with this.One gay male friend of mine is all about trans rights, and supports these two young girls who want to be boys.I feel like the only way this dude will wake up is if one of them tries to force him to date her otherwise he's 'transphobic".Though i will say if he does reject her because of that, it just proves he doesn't believe his own bullshit.The last thing i'll say is that adding T was the biggest mistake that the gay community could of done because i fear that if trans stuff gets huge backlash that LGB will be in the crosshairs.

 

[Baraadmirer]

From experience it feels likes 30+ don't buy this nonsense and do see the contradictions

Speaking anecdotally I have two gay men as friends in their 40s who have different stances on transgenderism. Both don't seem to be very savvy with a lot of the issues involving them today, but one seems to support them unconditionally due to the backlash, and a few years back the other thought that being trans was heavy-duty crossdressing to get with men when I introduced him to one of my trans friends (no idea if he still feels that way).

 

[LimeRikki]

Out loud and in public the majority of LGB people support transpeoplewomen.

But to themselves and trusted confidantes behind closed doors?

That's another story, with a far greater range of variety in their answers.

 

[AnOminous]

Out loud and in public the majority of LGB people support transpeoplewomen.

But to themselves and trusted confidantes behind closed doors?

That's another story, with a far greater range of variety in their answers.

They don't want troons in their beds either. Only the most pitiable of handmaidens and gay cucks would ever consent to fucking a stink ditch or a leg flesh tube.

 

[Jacques1194]

Out loud and in public the majority of LGB people support transpeoplewomen.

But to themselves and trusted confidantes behind closed doors?

That's another story, with a far greater range of variety in their answers.

Someone said it best.They're TRAs on the streets,TERFs in the sheets.

 

[Sissyagamben]

what do you think the majority of LGB people think of trans issues?From experience it feels likes 30+ don't buy this nonsense and do see the contradictions.Sadly though, it feels like many young gay people are brainwashed with this

Not true an honest lesbian, but my old circle were mostly gay. It was my former circle because most of them turned trans. The 30+ is not much better, I would say it has to be maybe 35+ or even 40+ that has less troon and TRA. Faggots living fag lifestyle in the cities don’t really become mature and develop critical thinking at all, and millennials are mega tranny supporters. I think just with so many homos troon out, men or women, the larger LGB community cannot really severe their relationship with the troon. for the individual LGB it’s either grin and bear it, or lose most of your friends.


With the younger gen it’s just abhorrent. Problem is you don’t even have a true and honest population of homos anymore. Straight women with bpd have been calling themselves bisexual since it had become cool, and now being bisexual is cringe, they graduated into being lesbians. You have true and honest straight or bisexul women larping as lesbians, and say shit like as a lesbian I gladly take the tranny dick. In fact you will no longer be a honorable lesbian if you don’t suck the girl dick. The older ones might not be so mask off about it.

This is just with the “queer community” though, the homos that are less into the scene (autistic) are more likely to be based about tranny. They can also hold a job, and be normal in most areas of human development. Their most fatal flaw is the inability and unwillingness to start a family or have kids. Surprise surprise, their view about family life is completely lacking retarded. That’s a different story though, and most liberals are completely retarded in the same way. Getting married? Having kids? At the young age of 35? Get out of here!

 

[Lavender Moth]

From experience it feels likes 30+ don't buy this nonsense and do see the contradictions.

I am in the 30+ crowd and it's not great.

One of the last conversations I had with an old friend from my "big in the gay scene" days was her showing me this "cool trans instagram star" who turned out to be fucking Kade Gottlieb, a biological woman who "does drag". Ergo, a biological woman who mutilated herself with T and a mastectomy and who still dolls herself up in hypersexual, hyperfeminine displays and is celebrated for being "the first transmasc" to do this, hence why my friend (who has also trooned) was showing me. I was openly not impressed. There is nothing to celebrate about that, it's fucking deranged. Gottlieb needed an honest therapist, not a butcher to lop her tits off and a sea of cultists telling her "good job!"

I stay away from all my former friends from "the scene" these days. I wish them well and I love them from afar, but they are too toxic for me to hang with anymore. If they dropped the queer TWAW shit I'd go back in a heartbeat, but for now, I see it as a lost cause. It's always trans this and trans that, and most of the "trans" in question aren't even gay, they are heterosexual and hardcore AGP or AAP. I used to enjoy the gay scene because I loved hanging out with other true and honest faggots, now it feels like the gay scene these days is simply a surefire way for me to get a true and honest dicking down I didn't ask for in a woman's bathroom by some man who looks like Shrek squeezed into a lacy teddy.

Trans as a concept has become textbook gaslighting, it requires me to literally deny the reality in front of me that I know to be objectively true, and if I draw attention to that reality (either accidentally or purposefully) I am berated and told I am a bigot. With the exception of when I have to, I pretty much exclusively hang out with straight dudes and a few women at this point. Most are firefighters or nurses, and I find that being part of a profession that requires one to understand mammalian biology and use that knowledge quickly makes it hard to buy into blatant lies like TWAW (even if our medical documents in my area are cringe as fuck these days and ask for pronouns.)

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

As a 30-something fag myself with some 30-something fag friends I can speak only for my own social circle but I find getting gender critical is more common with us than the straights right now. Its mostly from the 'date me bigot' types that afflict both genders which as we know are straight incels thinking going gay will solve their problems and getting mad when it doesnt. The real difference is who is willing to publicly express it or not. I suspect this comes down to social circles. Musical theater/artsie types are all trooned out, but thats really not my crew at all so Im only aware of that second hand.

 

[Kiislova]

As a 30-something fag

Gay men get waaaay more leeway, since in essence, no one cares about them anymore. No wonder in some countries, the fag man is turning right hard on the polls.

With the exception of when I have to

All the compliments troons get are fake and out of fear. Then they are surprised when even a hint of reality breezes their way.

Someone said it best.They're TRAs on the streets,TERFs in the sheets.

They won't eat the rotdog or lick the amhole. Every single one of the women "allies"

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

I think a little bit of the issue comes from the fact that same-sex attracted people have a community that just keeps getting every new brave and stunning group of socially incompatible freaks dumped onto them. I do understand why LGB started out as a community like it did though. Birds of a feather flock together, and especially so when you have to hide. These days though, true and honest gays/lesbians/bis have more in common with us filthy straight normies, regardless of what the screeching Twitter user says. I feel like if attraction to the same sex was normalized to the point of where it's not seen as being much different than being straight would definitely further highlight trannies as being degenerate freaks, but, the wider community can't do that. Gays relatively speaking, are a lot more harmless than trannies are, and like I just said, they're not too different from straights, so therefore the trannies have to latch onto them, both to dilute their degeneracy, and to make their opposition look worse thanks to guilt by association.

 

[Not A Bunny]

I'm not a lesbian, but if I were, I'd frankly be pissed in roughly the same way female athletes are.

That is, the trans community is barging in, demanding I accept them as one of them no matter how much I protest, and generally talking over women and telling them their feelings don't matter.

Fuck it. The trans community is making me a feminist. This is the most fucking dank timeline where trannies are the biggest misogynists.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

These days though, true and honest gays/lesbians/bis have more in common with us filthy straight normies, regardless of what the screeching Twitter user says. I feel like if attraction to the same sex was normalized to the point of where it's not seen as being much different than being straight would definitely further highlight trannies as being degenerate freaks, but, the wider community can't do that. Gays relatively speaking, are a lot more harmless than trannies are, and like I just said, they're not too different from straights,

This is why I support most LGB causes. Not necessarily the wedding-cake-issue (I have issues with the 1964 Civil Rights Act on the grounds that it is an infringement on the freedom of association), certainly not exposing kids to drag or pride parades, but other issues. I want them to integrate into society and be happy, suburban, meateaters that occasionally vote for lower taxes and vote against gun restrictions. You know, like normal people. I want pride parades to be a thing of the past and for being gay to be Not A Big Deal anymore.

To the righteous indignation of some of users here, I want them to be able to adopt and create their own 2-parent nuclear families. I have seen no reputable sources for an increase in child molestation from same-sex parent households, so every time I hear that assumption repeated, I see a kneejerk reaction to the idea of homosexuality, which is a subjective moral disagreement rather than an objective one. I'd rather these kids get raised by a loving family that happens to lack a mother or father figure than be raised parentless in an orphanage off of my tax dollars anyways.

I want to guarantee to them that they will be safe if they remove the ticks and leeches, and then help them remove the ticks and leeches.