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That article might not fit that thread but it might be worth to read.

Groomers: 'Hi, little boy! Would you like to become a little girl?'

It doesn't matter where you live — there are LGBTQIA+ groomers targeting your children. From Drag Queen Story Hours to graphic sexual education in schools, gay media, and especially the internet, your children are bombarded by adults who...

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March 4, 2023

Groomers: 'Hi, little boy! Would you like to become a little girl?'​

By Anna Bohach

It doesn't matter where you live — there are LGBTQIA+ groomers targeting your children.
From Drag Queen Story Hours to graphic sexual education in schools, gay media, and especially the internet, your children are bombarded by adults who want unrestricted access to them. Why? So they can tell them about kinky sex, sodomy, and transgender ideology.
Today, we have grown men who dress as sexed up grotesque caricatures of women, twerking in front of preschoolers and reading them gender-confusing books. We have organizations like Planned Parenthood distributing hormone replacement therapy (HRT) drugs to confused teenagers and giving them information on chest-binders and genital mutilation surgeries. Then there is the "Free Mom Hugs" organization, which is a despicable group that tells young people that if their families don't accept their gender identity, then the group will be their mom. "Free Mom Hugs" is the ultimate grooming organization, promoting dangerous transgender ideology that will likely brainwash, mutilate, poison, sterilize, and eventually kill your children.
In my small Southern town deep in the Bible Belt, you would think kids would be relatively safe from transgender ideology and LGBT indoctrination, but you might be surprised. There is an individual who dresses up as a creepy wizard and wants to befriend the town's children. He wants to teach them how to be more accepting of LGBT "folx," teach them about "Love" and "Diversity," and teach them that it is okay for them to be whatever gender they choose. He wants children to believe that it is "cool" to be a homosexual. This person wears a silly hat and casts spells on people. He also describes himself as a "raging homosexual." He is more like the demonic clown Pennywise in the movie It than a happy gay wizard.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

just wanted to post this:

I find it funny that one of the trans hero’s was booed at their time of living.

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Why Did Sylvia Rivera Hijack the 1973 Christopher Street Liberation Day Rally?

CMS 340K Midterm Project for Dr. J. RollinsA brief history of trans activist Sylvia Rivera and an analysis her speech "Y'all Better Quiet Down" given at the ...

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[ryuichi]

Gays ok
Trannies, no; stop saying you're something you're not.
The different you've turned a blind eye to:
wanting to be something you're not

 

[this is the drama reborn]

I hate the queer movement. I hate the talk of queerness. Whenever, I hear white suburban liberals talk about queerness, I always get a sense that they want to be edgy or special. Except, it’s not really edgy. It’s cringe.

Queerness is the same as goths, punks, and emos. The sad thing is that queerness has taken over the LGBT community.

 

[instant]

Before getting into the nitty gritty of any classification, first and foremost I advocate for less rights across the board for all groups of people. I don't even want tax incentives on marriage, let alone any other state meddling.

Past that, I guess you could say I dont necessarily think being gay is natural, but its not to any degree I particularly care about. If there wasnt any kind of political interest in faggotry I'd probably think of the random homo I see on the street on the same level as someone with say, a limp. It seems like something unfortunate to live with but its not really something I'd care about or wanna do anything about.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIG7Q-_m4j4&ab_channel=EchoChurch

So I watched the full video and I noticed that the modern LGBT movement is cringed. I realized that to most people the LGBT, particularly trans and queer, is a religion. I also want to note that the pastor and SJW, trans have a persecution complex. I don't want to persecute him as well as support his freedom of speech.

While I don't support drag queens in front of kids, I noticed that one of his arguments is that of Christianity's popularity in the public sphere. I support Christianity in the public sphere as long as individuals can have a private sphere. The problem to me is that all boundaries between the public and private space has been lost leading to the cultural war. Add alienated suburban teens who want to rebel against their parents and suburban moms who want to be with it, and this is the mess we're in.

The sad thing is that Gen Z are so wrapped in their own propaganda and worldview that all they would do is be triggered and called the man a "bigot".


The tweet of the video gave the usual reactions from the conversative group.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

Why doesn't the LGBT gatekeep anymore? This makes us look like a bunch of recruiters. I would gladly get rid of LGBT representation in school for this nightmare to go away.

 

[Sissyagamben]

I’m 2015 I was still retarded and young and I scoffed at the idea of the slippery slope. Don’t bigots know that’s a fallacy!?!?!?!!?
Not even full 8 years later, everything besides men marrying (real) squirrels have happened. Pedophilia is once again normalized (as it did initially with the gay rights movement), and sanctity of marriage completely destroyed.

My best friend who I grew up with is gay, and knowing him it’s pretty clear its an innate thing for him. Mental illness or genetics, it manifested very early on and he cannot be further away from being sexually attracted to a woman. There’s some mental illness, but definitely not more than your average North American man with divorced/absent parents. Either way, I’m fine with the fact that a tiny percentage of the population are same sex attracted. I don’t think they should all go to a concentration camp or be banned from having a job, I just don’t think it should be a PRIDE thing and they should be contend with civil partnership. Regardless of the cause being homosexual is still abnormal, fringe, and you know, weird.
Many of the before Before the Bell gays accepted that being gay is a life style, and didn’t want to march and protest for marriage rights. So little of them wanted to get married anyways. It’s like a piss fetish, no one else need to know about it, and no one will break down your door because you were doing it at home. But you shouldn’t expect people to not judge it, or be disgusted by it, because at the end of the day it is perverse and weird. It certainly shouldn’t be “cool” or trendy.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I’m 2015 I was still retarded and young and I scoffed at the idea of the slippery slope. Don’t bigots know that’s a fallacy!?!?!?!!?
Not even full 8 years later, everything besides men marrying (real) squirrels have happened. Pedophilia is once again normalized (as it did initially with the gay rights movement), and sanctity of marriage completely destroyed.

My best friend who I grew up with is gay, and knowing him it’s pretty clear its an innate thing for him. Mental illness or genetics, it manifested very early on and he cannot be further away from being sexually attracted to a woman. There’s some mental illness, but definitely not more than your average North American man with divorced/absent parents. Either way, I’m fine with the fact that a tiny percentage of the population are same sex attracted. I don’t think they should all go to a concentration camp or be banned from having a job, I just don’t think it should be a PRIDE thing and they should be contend with civil partnership. Regardless of the cause being homosexual is still abnormal, fringe, and you know, weird.
Many of the before Before the Bell gays accepted that being gay is a life style, and didn’t want to march and protest for marriage rights. So little of them wanted to get married anyways. It’s like a piss fetish, no one else need to know about it, and no one will break down your door because you were doing it at home. But you shouldn’t expect people to not judge it, or be disgusted by it, because at the end of the day it is perverse and weird. It certainly shouldn’t be “cool” or trendy.

At the end of the day, the reason why gays were hated throughout history had very little to do with the fact that homosexuality is perverse and abnormal, and more to do with their inability to accept the fact that it was perverse and abnormal and keep it to themselves.

 

[Sissyagamben]

At the end of the day, the reason why gays were hated throughout history had very little to do with the fact that homosexuality is perverse and abnormal, and more to do with the fact that they couldn't accept the fact that it was perverse and abnormal and keep it to themselves.

Sorry to pl you from another thread, do you think being gay is a mental illness? Can it be alleviated or reversed? I grew up during the “all animals can be gay” era and I think many homos nowadays never think about it that way. I mean, I’ve never seen one gay person who’s not mentally I’ll, and I don’t buy into the oppression made me crazy bs. On the other hand they are also not crazier than an average unstable person. Very thunk provoking

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Sorry to pl you from another thread, do you think being gay is a mental illness? Can it be alleviated or reversed?

It's absolutely a mental illness, an abnormality. If anyone but a very tiny minority of people were hardwired to only be attracted to the same sex, society would collapse, or the human race would go extinct.

Heteronormativity is a thing for a damned good reason, no matter how many degenerates whine about it.

The only reason I don't support corrective therapy is not because homosexuality isn't a mental illness, nor is it because I think they're actually born that way. It's because it doesn't fucking work and causes even more emotional and mental problems on top of being sexually dysfunctional.

I grew up during the “all animals can be gay” era and I think many homos nowadays never think about it that way. I mean,

When animals engage in homosexuality, it's usually because of these things:

1. They're in captivity.
2. They're dominating other males, the bottom clearly doesn't enjoy it.
3. It's comorbid with other disgusting, even abnormal behaviors like cannibalism or kidnapping the young of other members of its species.

Even in the animal kingdom, amongst species that lack moral agency, homosexuality is a sign of something even more serious and disturbing.

I’ve never seen one gay person who’s not mentally I’ll, and I don’t buy into the oppression made me crazy bs. On the other hand they are also not crazier than an average unstable person. Very thunk provoking

In the book After the Ball, published in the 90s, even the authors admit that gays were very privileged and hardly oppressed. They were just angy that society didn't affirm them in their degenerate lifestyle, angry that society didn't redefine important institutions like marriage to accommodate their degeneracy.

It doesn't fucking matter how good they have it, they can't look at themselves in the mirror if there's at least one person in the world who looks at them funny or thinks their sexual proclivities are fucking gross.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

At the end of the day, the reason why gays were hated throughout history had very little to do with the fact that homosexuality is perverse and abnormal, and more to do with their inability to accept the fact that it was perverse and abnormal and keep it to themselves.

You’re thinking that homosexuality was considered the same thing in different cultures and different times. Not saying that it was universally accepted or praised, but it wasn’t this whole drama that conservative and gay activists make it out to be in present era. No and I’m not saying Ancient Rome/ Ancient Greece were homo paradise. That was a myth created by their opponents to shame them and homo rights activists in the 19th century run with that myth.

For example, do you really think men like Cicil Rhodes, Mishima, or Gide gave a shit that people thought they were abnormal or perverse?

I’m 2015 I was still retarded and young and I scoffed at the idea of the slippery slope. Don’t bigots know that’s a fallacy!?!?!?!!?
Not even full 8 years later, everything besides men marrying (real) squirrels have happened. Pedophilia is once again normalized (as it did initially with the gay rights movement), and sanctity of marriage completely destroyed.

Pedophillia will never be normalized. One, grown adult women would never allow it. Most single in the 30s don’t want to sexually compete with younger women in their 20s.

Two, if pedophillia is normalized, the elites wouldn’t have any material to blackmail people with. Heck, elites still use homosexuality and transvestism as blackmail.

Many of the before Before the Bell gays accepted that being gay is a life style, and didn’t want to march and protest for marriage rights. So little of them wanted to get married anyways. It’s like a piss fetish, no one else need to know about it, and no one will break down your door because you were doing it at home. But you shouldn’t expect people to not judge it, or be disgusted by it, because at the end of the day it is perverse and weird. It certainly shouldn’t be “cool” or trendy.

I agree that homosexuality shouldn’t be marketed or even presented to children, teens, or people in their early 20s. I contended that homosexuals should their own third spaces. Why do homosexuals have to live at the mercy of heterosexuals?

Do you think minorities don’t have the right to their own public squares? Also, I’m against Civil Rights Act and forced integration.

I’m Noir Drag Freak as you can tell by my stances and arguments.

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

Homosexuality is weird and sort of gross,: i don't think it's anything worth celebrating. However, we can let them be.
Traditional families are the best, but if there's no other option even gay adoption are better than nothing.

Transexualism on the other hand is a social plague. Trannies are completely insane, they need to be given proper medications and never see the spotlight again.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Gays are less weird than trannies, but most trannies are gays. Gay men are more likely to be pedophiles than straight men. It simply is no way to live. Most gay men live like tweens into their late 30s, I can’t speak for the 40s+ because I don’t know many of them. Lesbians have the highest domestic violence rate out of all possible pairs of coupling. You can chalk that up to women like to bitch more (thus more likely to report), still can’t hide the fact their relationships are extremely tumultuous. It is really weird that most of them don’t want to grow up, or can’t grow up, and have really juvenile understanding of personal responsibilities. Many of them can hold a job and have career etc, but their idea of close relationships and family units is usually very cynical and immature. You’d think you are talking to 16 year olds when the topic of marriage and having kids is brought up. Sure a lot straight ppl are also retarded, but more often than not the gays will be developmentally stunned in that area. They just never grew past it.

I know the example is retarded but what the gay conversion therapist (real) in Brüno is very interesting. He’s relating to Cohen’s flaming faggot persona and saying “don’t you feel living and being with a woman is terribly boring? Conventional?” I have been warming up to the idea that being gay, like tranny, is also a self-selection out of the gene pool and the greater society. It’s like some women just can’t help falling into one abusive relationship after another. It’s like they have this mental imprint that happiness is unattainable, and they will make sure at every chance to go against it. Trannies are completely hopeless. But how much more hopeful it is to be a homo? They can’t reproduce, and the dating pool shrinks from 50% of the population to maybe 1%. Until the very very recent past, homos can’t get married or adopt. Seems like as soon as they are allowed to do that, many stopped being gay and chased the next impossibility that is becoming a troon.

Even if they can find someone who’s also down for homosex, that won’t last either. If you know anything about how homosexuals have sex, you’ll know neither way is sustainable in the long term. Being fucked in the ass too much will make you leak shit all the time, and lesbians bed death is not just a urban legend. There are no balancing, only to the extreme.

Women need men, and men need women. Seeing how homosexuals operate one can soon realize if the relationship is made up by only sex, it’s shit, immature, and will burst at the seam in no time. I’m not for hunting them down and drowning them. Homosexuality should have remained in the dark and all homosexuals should acknowledge they are sexually perverse. They are as sexually perverse as men who can only come when torturing women, or animal fuckers. Maybe less than pedophiles, still, they are way over represented in that demographic. No sexual perversion should be normalized, not to say promoted and celebrated. They should feel ashamed and kept it a secret.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

Why should I feel ashamed of homosexuality? It just is. Why should I make a big drama of it? Either I commit sodomy with other men or I don’t. While I agree that about 60% of gay men are juvenile, I don’t think all them are. They’re no more dead brain zombies than the rest of the population.

Actually, I hate how this whole discussion is framed. One, it based on the notion that homosexuals should be resentful and envious of straight people. Two, it’s also based on the notion that homosexuals owe heterosexuals as a collective. Three, your whole logic is why the spicy straights and auto heterosexuals flooded the gay community.

I would be more than happy to take the L. But the gay community has become nothing more than orphanage for alienated suburban youth. So the places that I typically go to have been overrun by these types. So I have no where to go.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Why should I feel ashamed of homosexuality? It just is. Why should I make a big drama of it? Either I commit sodomy with other men or I don’t. While I agree that about 60% of gay men are juvenile, I don’t think all them are. They’re no more dead brain zombies than the rest of the population.

Actually, I hate how this whole discussion is framed. One, it based on the notion that homosexuals should be resentful and envious of straight people. Two, it’s also based on the notion that homosexuals owe heterosexuals as a collective. Three, your whole logic is why the spicy straights and auto heterosexuals flooded the gay community.

I would be more than happy to take the L. But the gay community has become nothing more than orphanage for alienated suburban youth. So the places that I typically go to have been overrun by these types. So I have no where to go.

Your attitude that homos shouldn’t be ashamed is the reason suburban edgy teens flooded your space. If there are no moral restrains, what’s stopping them from pretending to be gay?


You think having an extremely fringe “sexuality” (sexual perversion) should be nothing to be ashamed about. That’s simply wrong. Not only gays should be ashamed of their sexual perversion though, any straight person who is sexually perverted should be shamed. I don’t think it’s normal to violently beat up your partner during sex, it’s not normal to fuck animals, it’s gross to jerk off dressed up as the opposite sex, it’s reprehensible to fuck children. There’s no reason that being gay should be excused while those be shunned.

I agree you shouldn’t make a big fuzz about being gay and you can go sodomize men all you want. There are men who beat up women during sex until they bleed, and the women consent to it. Do I think that’s shameful? Yeah. Should they be ashamed of it? Yeah. Do I want to hunt them down and stop them? No. If there’s no shaming against sexual perversion, and if they are presented as just as normal as normal sexuality, that is a problem. There would be nothing to stop them from normalizing it. I wonder if something that is already normal needs to be normalized


I know your community, I used to be a part of it. What it represents now is even worse than just plain homos, I agree. But the homos opened the flood gate and now you reap what you sow.

 

[Little oak tree]

You think having an extremely fringe “sexuality” (sexual perversion) should be nothing to be ashamed about. That’s simply wrong. Not only gays should be ashamed of their sexual perversion though, any straight person who is sexually perverted should be shamed. I don’t think it’s normal to violently beat up your partner during sex, it’s not normal to fuck animals, it’s gross to jerk off dressed up as the opposite sex, it’s reprehensible to fuck children. There’s no reason that being gay should be excused while those be shunned.

You are like a beautiful puzzle of stupidity
It's like a binary code
You mix horrible things to do that hurt other creatures followed by insignificant sexual practices.

I agree you shouldn’t make a big fuzz about being gay and you can go sodomize men all you want. There are men who beat up women during sex until they bleed, and the women consent to it. Do I think that’s shameful? Yeah. Should they be ashamed of it? Yeah. Do I want to hunt them down and stop them? No. If there’s no shaming against sexual perversion, and if they are presented as just as normal as normal sexuality, that is a problem. There would be nothing to stop them from normalizing it. I wonder if something that is already normal needs to be normalized

Acknowledged

 

[Tranny Destructor]

Why doesn't the LGBT gatekeep anymore? This makes us look like a bunch of recruiters. I would gladly get rid of LGBT representation in school for this nightmare to go away.View attachment 5087485

what do you think gatekeeping a survey would entail?
checking if people actually have hot gay sex?

It's absolutely a mental illness

The only reason I don't support corrective therapy is not because homosexuality isn't a mental illness, nor is it because I think they're actually born that way. It's because it doesn't fucking work and causes even more emotional and mental problems on top of being sexually dysfunctional.

this is severely retarded - you claim its a mental illness and then go "but it cant be treated like other mental illnesses"
its a neurological defect

they need to be given proper medications

can you propose a proper medication?

but most trannies are gays.

as in, trannies have sex with the same gender, or the same sex? your statement is only correct if its the former, as most trannies are agp/aap and only have sex with members of the other sex.

Being fucked in the ass too much will make you leak shit all the time

lol

There are men who beat up women during sex until they bleed, and the women consent to it. Do I think that’s shameful? Yeah. Should they be ashamed of it? Yeah. Do I want to hunt them down and stop them? No. If there’s no shaming against sexual perversion, and if they are presented as just as normal as normal sexuality, that is a problem. There would be nothing to stop them from normalizing it.

why should someone be ashamed of something they do in private and don't expose to anyone else? should people be ashamed of having uncommon interests in general?
why do you think sexual paraphilias are presented as "normal" sexuality anywhere?

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I have been warming up to the idea that being gay, like tranny, is also a self-selection out of the gene pool and the greater society. It’s like some women just can’t help falling into one abusive relationship after another. It’s like they have this mental imprint that happiness is unattainable, and they will make sure at every chance to go against it. Trannies are completely hopeless. But how much more hopeful it is to be a homo? They can’t reproduce, and the dating pool shrinks from 50% of the population to maybe 1%. Until the very very recent past, homos can’t get married or adopt. Seems like as soon as they are allowed to do that, many stopped being gay and chased the next impossibility that is becoming a troon.

Except that model would work if we were talking about, say, lizards.
Lizards have nothing else they pass on and no greater social structure, so analyzing their fitness as an individual on a pure "How much do they personally reproduce" basis would be valid.

Humans aren't lizards though. They have complex community and family structures as well as greater ideological and technological concepts they share amongst themselves.

Being gay is a means of self-selection out of society? What about all the gay people who've had tremendous impacts on society that last to this day? So homos like Alan Turing, they passed on nothing of value?


Most decisively anti-gay arguments are these weird brutal dogmas that seem to expose more about the insecurities of the people arguing them than the actual homos themselves, and ironically despite calling gays degenerates obsessed with flesh, almost always completely neglect any higher aspects of the human condition.

They break people down to nothing except low animals whose existence is dictated by coding, where physical reproduction is the only reason to exist.

I'm no avid gay lover and there should be serious expectations on the behavior of gays that they often don't uphold, homos are far from created equal in terms of how they conduct themselves and the ones who openly and shamelessly lean into it disgust me, but to suggest that just gayness in and of itself is this profane affront to nature I don't think is accurate.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

@Uberpenguin
Humans are Animals, the ones that don't reproduce are failures. Nothing More Nothing Less