UN Farmers rally over first lady’s comments on banning dog meat - I thought they might have stopped eating dogs after seeing the number of pet dogs on the streets over there

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Dozens of dog farmers in South Korea rallied Tuesday to criticize the country’s first lady over her reported comments that support a possible ban on dog meat consumption.

Eating dog is a centuries-old Korean practice. But there have been growing calls for outlawing it in South Korea as animal rights campaigns have influenced public perception and eating dog meat has fallen out of favor with most younger people.

In late 2021, a government-civilian committee was launched to reach a social consensus on ending dog meat consumption, but no breakthrough has been reported yet. Farmers demand authorities present more concrete compensation steps or allow them to maintain their businesses for about 15-20 years until older people, who are the main source of demand for the meat, die.

About 50 dog farmers gathered Tuesday near the office of President Yoon Suk Yeol to protest remarks made by his wife, Kim Keon Hee, during a private luncheon with animal rights activists earlier in April.

Some local media outlets reported Kim told the activists that she would effort an end to dog meat consumption for the duration of Yoon’s term, which ends in 2027. Dog farmers argued Kim isn’t entitled to make such a policy promise because she isn’t a government official. They also accused her of undermining their rights to their livelihoods and happiness.

Yoon’s office declined to confirm the contents of Kim’s conversation with the activists because their luncheon was organized as a closed-door meeting.

Attendee Jo Hee Kyung, who heads the Korean Animal Welfare Association, said Kim’s comments reported in the media were largely taken out of context. Jo said Kim did not discuss policies but rather expressed her personal hopes for the end of dog meat consumption during an informal meeting meant to cheer up animal rights activists. Jo said Kim told them that TV programs reporting animal abuses made her heart ache. She said they felt grateful to Kim for sharing her views backing a potential ban.

Kim and Yoon are known as pet lovers. They raise six dogs and five cats. Jo said Kim had long held interests in animal rights movements even before Yoon became president in 2022.

But Ju Yeongbong, an official at an association of dog farmers, said he believes that animals rights activists were trying to cover up Kim’s comments.

During the rally, farmers pumped their fists and chanted slogans demanding Kim withdraw her reported comments and the government formulate steps to support the farmers. “Guarantee our livelihoods! Guarantee!” they shouted.

They said they later visited a police station to file complaints against Kim for allegedly hurting their rights to maintain livelihoods, seek happiness and select jobs.

Chae IlTaek, an activist at the Korean Animal Welfare Association, called dog meat consumption “an anachronistic business” that should have been shut down.

About 1 million dogs are slaughtered for food annually in South Korea, a decrease from more than 3 million annually about 10-20 years ago, according to Ju.

Dog meat is neither legally protected nor explicitly banned in South Korea. During election campaigning, Yoon said he personally opposed dog meat consumption but formulating a policy on outlawing it would require a public consensus.

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Dog consumption has been steadily dropping in recent years, more and more people actively find it disgusting/ unethical/ unclean. I tried it once myself back in 2010 and was unimpressed (the taste is overly greasy but with stringy texture ) and it is overpriced compared to livestock meat.

The strangest thing to me, is that despite canine consumption being a centuries old tradition in Korea, dogs are not categorized as livestock. So that there is no requirements for hygiene or care for the farmed dogs. An idiot, like me, might see this as a grand opportunity for the dog meat industry to set their own standards of cleanliness and quality to help quell fears of potential consumers. But they have done nothing of the sort. The industry has chosen to end dog meat consumption themselves by the choices they have made.

Is it a very rural kind of thing over there? I was just in Jeju, Busan and Seoul and honestly I never once was reminded of how dog eating was a thing in Korea tbh, mostly because of how I noticed that there were many Koreans walking their cute pet dogs everywhere

Did see dog meat on the menu in a North Korean restaurant in Cambodia many years ago but didn't order it or anything but South Korea has never given me the impression that the populace ate dogs the few times I've visited in the past 5 years or so
 
Is it a very rural kind of thing over there? I was just in Jeju, Busan and Seoul and honestly I never once was reminded of how dog eating was a thing in Korea tbh, mostly because of how I noticed that there were many Koreans walking their cute pet dogs everywhere

Did see dog meat on the menu in a North Korean restaurant in Cambodia many years ago but didn't order it or anything but South Korea has never given me the impression that the populace ate dogs the few times I've visited in the past 5 years or so

The dog farms are definitely rural but a quick search on KakaoMap shows about 10 restaurants in my city. All of them are in the old parts of the city, nothing in the new developments.
 
Alligator supposedly tastes good. Always forget to try it when I have the chance, unfortunately. Almost got to go to a place that served rattlesnake as a kid. My mom was outraged, so no rattlesnake for me.
I've eaten alligator, it's like a very dense fish. Similar to shark.

The worst part about eating a dog would be eating an animal that thinks you're its friend.

Range cattle don't come up to you, my friend's backyard chickens don't come up to you. They don't want to be your friend.

Dogs are the only animals that prefer the company of humans to the company of other dogs.
 
Cultural biases aside... I've always read that predator meat tastes terrible to begin with so I've never understood why people would make an industry out of it.
I think, in a place where there are periodic famines, diversifying your food is the way to go. Pigs have been popular livestock for millennia because they literally garbage disposal units that you can eat. Dogs will also eat just about anything, and unlike pigs, you don't need to build stys or barns to house them, because most dogs prefer to live around human settlement, even if they're not tame. If there's a pack of stray dogs around the place, you've basically got free meat, even if there's not much of it and of bad quality. Food is food if you're going hungry.

Pets are really something that only (comparatively) rich people can have. For the vast majority of human history, animals have been domesticated to be useful. I mean, I love horses but I don't understand why people get upset about eating them. They're huge animals with a limited useful lifespan, and if one broke its leg back in the bad old days, that fucker got eaten, not buried or burned. Cows and steers can make for adorable, massive pets, but it doesn't stop them from being food.

That said, even if a domestic animal is destined for the pot, you still have an obligation to treat them humanely. And from what I've seen, most dog meat industries around the world are horrifically cruel. When an animal is domesticated, it's a mutual obligation.
 
I've eaten alligator, it's like a very dense fish. Similar to shark.

Dogs are the only animals that prefer the company of humans to the company of other dogs.
I’ve got some alligator jerky on my desk right now, oddly enough. Haven’t ever eaten any before. Maybe it’s time I try it….

As to dogs being the only animal that prefers humans, I introduce you to the Shoebill Stork, a living velociraptor that kills everything it can touch… except humans. It genuinely likes people for some reason, especially if they politely bow to it.

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I believe dog-eating goes against human instinct, as dogs are not traditional livestock. Some abominable event has to trigger it. Greater China (including Korea) is rather war-torn, so I imagine dog-eating came out of that. They don’t eat dogs in Japan because Japan never had the kind of terrible wars the mainland had.
We're evolved to like dogs, like dogs are evolved to like humans. We're a fascinating symbiotic species in that way.
 
Cultural biases aside... I've always read that predator meat tastes terrible to begin with so I've never understood why people would make an industry out of it.
In my youth I ventured the world and tried deep fried and breaded dog meat on a dare during my travels. It's not very good. You wouldn't vomit or anything like that but it's a step down from anything else you would raise on a barn even goat.
 
The dog farms are definitely rural but a quick search on KakaoMap shows about 10 restaurants in my city. All of them are in the old parts of the city, nothing in the new developments.

I see, yeah one wouldn't be reminded of the dog eating culture unless you really go look for it I guess.

Black pork is fucking delicious though and I love how it was explained to me how the Koreans of yesteryear had to carry a stick around to chase the pigs away when they went to the loo for a poop because the pigs would want to chomp on your dick and balls lol
 
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The worst part about eating a dog would be eating an animal that thinks you're its friend.

Range cattle don't come up to you, my friend's backyard chickens don't come up to you. They don't want to be your friend.

Pigs and goats can be very friendly, depending how they're raised. Doesn't change how they taste. Besides, they're not kidnapping people's pets and putting them on the table. I highly doubt dogs raised for slaughter are given lots of socialization and play time with humans.
 
In my youth I ventured the world and tried deep fried and breaded dog meat on a dare during my travels. It's not very good. You wouldn't vomit or anything like that but it's a step down from anything else you would raise on a barn even goat.
Braver than me, the furthest I'm willing to go is alligator and raccoon, the latter due to me living in Illinois when I was young and finding them to be complete pests
 
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Is it a very rural kind of thing over there? I was just in Jeju, Busan and Seoul and honestly I never once was reminded of how dog eating was a thing in Korea tbh, mostly because of how I noticed that there were many Koreans walking their cute pet dogs everywhere

Did see dog meat on the menu in a North Korean restaurant in Cambodia many years ago but didn't order it or anything but South Korea has never given me the impression that the populace ate dogs the few times I've visited in the past 5 years or so
The bo-shin-t'ang I saw was in Songt'an, right next to the main US air base in Korea, but that was forty years ago.
 
How could you even think about eating a dog?

What kind of human looks at a dog, who is nothing but love and loyalty, and think...yum!

I stand by my opinion that Asian's are not human but rather some Denisovan off shoot race.
What's wrong, bloodmouth? You whining because the fact you play favorites with different species has come to bite you in the ass? The day we ALL stop eating meat is the day that animals are free from the sickening terror we create n our wake.
 
Alligator supposedly tastes good.
I had a gator burger once, when I was 16.

It didn't taste much different from a regular burger, but my palate may just be unrefined-- despite my father's efforts, now that I'm thinking about it.

I believe dog-eating goes against human instinct
It does not. You have a culturally-imbued aversion to eating dogs, which is fine by itself but comes off as ridiculous when you seriously try to draw the line at eating dogs despite being willing to eat other animals.

I'm still waiting for the "not muh heckin' doggerino!" shoe to drop in this thread.
 
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