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[Antenna7]

. As much as people here idolize the rooftop Koreans, that’s 30 years ago, now it’s their children and grandchildren who are voting and they are thoroughly Democrat. Any Republican candidate is going to have to solve this issue and it’s not being a “doomer” to point it out.

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Yeah I remember coming across a second generation South Korean girl who was an Antifa Journalist, and supplemented her income with blacked Onlyfans. Doesn't take long for the kids to get brainwashed.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Honestly, from a purely pragmatic, utterly selfish standpoint, a person would have to be an idiot to be Republican. There's no upside for the individual.

Are the Republicans perfect? No, but currently you look at the candidates and stances the Dems have on issues and least some Republicans are better than the Dems. Notice how when Trump was in charge America was at least the US was respected and could keep its hegemony. Look at the kind of candidates the Dems prop up, literal socialists and retarded people like Fetterman.

That really is the problem with modern politics because there is more to winning. Having good policies and making it so that the country has a future which the Dems have no concept of. Compare the state of any Republican controlled area to a Dem one. THAT is why you would choose to be Republicans. Rather than just throwing up your hands and giving up you should have some grit to stick around to try and fix thing.

I only brought up the popular vote because everyone here wants to act things are hopeless, yet the GOP has at least made some progress and had some very real victories. The GOP still won the house and Mitch is retiring which will help things. The GOP also has passed laws protecting the 2nd amendment and banning Troon surgery.

The people that just want to give up are annoying because there is still plenty of opportunity to fix things. Times will not be good all the time so you tough it out and they will improve. America is defined by its ability to bounce back from dire situations like the Civil War or the 70s.

 

[Antenna7]

That really is the problem with modern politics because there is more to winning. Having good policies and making it so that the country has a future which the Dems have no concept of. Compare the state of any Republican controlled area to a Dem one. THAT is why you would choose to be Republicans. Rather than just throwing up your hands and giving up you should have some grit to stick around to try and fix thing.

The people that just want to give up are annoying because there is still plenty of opportunity to fix things. Times will not be good all the time so you tough it out and they will improve. America is defined by its ability to bounce back from dire situations like the Civil War or the 70s.

Tucker brought that up during the Heritage speech. Conservatives and classical liberals are still operating under the assumption the method we are operating through is debating with logical points for a mutually desired positive outcome.

It seems many of them don't realize that's not how the debate landscape is now. It's people attempting to operate under rational a debate environment, versus a Theological group. You can't beat them in that way. Because they don't even believe in the very basis of the rules of rational engagement. You are just an infidel.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Tucker brought that up during the Heritage speech. Conservatives and classical liberals are still operating under the assumption the method we are operating through is debating with logical points for a mutually desired positive outcome.

It seems many of them don't realize that's not how the debate landscape is now. It's people attempting to operate under rational a debate environment, versus a Theological group. You can't beat them in that way. Because they don't even believe in the very basis of the rules of rational engagement. You are just an infidel.

I just think it doesn't help anything to be negative, what is the alternative? Just give up? You fix problems by having tenacity and sticking around to fix things. For example what if Null had just given up and let this site die back in August when it looked like things were fucked?

 

[Antenna7]

I just think it doesn't help anything to be negative, what is the alternative? Just give up? You fix problems by having tenacity and sticking around to fix things. For example what if Null had just given up and let this site die back in August when it looked like things were fucked?

The only thing I see would end up being produced, is eventually reasonable people being pushed to the edge.

 

[quaawaa]

Not just the suburban whites but the Asian vote. At one time they voted majority Republican but not anymore and it’s because there’s no social or practical reasons to vote for them. As much as people here idolize the rooftop Koreans, that’s 30 years ago, now it’s their children and grandchildren who are voting and they are thoroughly Democrat. Any Republican candidate is going to have to solve this issue and it’s not being a “doomer” to point it out.

A large number of Asians in the US these days are fresh off the boat from China (a communist country) and India (a socialist country). These people were the elites back home (CCP members and Brahmin, respectively) and they migrated for economic reasons, not to flee oppression. They also did not give up ties to the old country and are very nationalist and nepotistic. The Vietnamese boat people, Korean War refugees, and Nationalist/Hong Konger Chinese are still conservative to this day, but they’re a minority of Asian-Americans now. It’s the same reason why Cubans are conservative while Hispanics as a whole vote left.

Also, Asian cultures’ strong emphasis on grades and blind respect of education means that their kids are very vulnerable to being brainwashed. The easiest way to get straight A’s (outside of math and higher-level science classes) is to just agree with everything the teacher says. Additionally, parents that didn’t grow up here won’t be able to correct the historical falsehoods spread by teachers because they know the history of another country, not America.

One final thing: the easy status gained by identifying as a “POC” and claiming to have experienced racism at the hands of Whites is very attractive to Asian youth. Many of my Asian friends, once they went off to college, started to talk about stories of racism that they “experienced” growing up that I know for a fact never happened.

 

[northstar747]

A large number of Asians in the US these days are fresh off the boat from China (a communist country) and India (a socialist country). These people were the elites back home (CCP members and Brahmin, respectively) and they migrated for economic reasons, not to flee oppression.

not totally true. There are people that remember the cultural revolution.

Basically the chinese beast of politics can turn on them. Maybe you supported the wrong faction, maybe you said the wrong thing.

Look what they did to the tech billionaires like jack MA

Since the 1990s chinese people have had a practice of making/stealing money shifting it over seas to Canada/Australia etc. Send the wife over to have a kid, get duel passports

And as things start to turn boom the do a run.

In the 1980/90 the CCP decided to try free market experiment where the goal was to let private business provide employment. now that isnt working.

Also alot of what china does like those over seas police stations have a point.

The chinese mind set is fundamentally insular before they think about anything they first have to decide if something is ether chinese or not chinese.

None chinese say bad things about CCP? its spoke by a non chinese what ever

Ethic Chinese say bad things about CCP? well now they have to think about it some more.

So the CCP believes it has a right/power over all chinese people every where.

my point being that chinese people have a reason to get the fuck out.

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

It’s not dooming to say it’s going to be a steep uphill battle at a very minimum. “Everything is going to be okay xddddd” doesn’t mean anything. Like my nigga ConfederateIrishman said, optimism without any kind of plan behind it is cowardice. This isn’t just for Trump, any Republican is going to have to at a minimum have a strategy that accounts for the demographic shifts that place then at a greater disadvantage every day. Also recall “hispandering” was the centerpiece of McCain and Romney and they lost white votes because of it.

Also once again the word “doomer” in practice means you don’t believe Republicans are going to solve every issue unilaterally. People are as sick and tired of the do nothing Republicans with a perpetual thumb up their ass who only care about Israel and tax cuts as they are the perverted warmongering Democrats. Gonna be a lot of “doomers” who think both parties are dog shit.

Oh I definitely agree. I even said as soon as the Wisconsin Senate seat was lost things don't look good for 2024. That said we've gotta stop talking about what is likely inevitable and start having a productive discussion about how to avoid that outcome/plan for what comes next. I think you're exactly right that there are gonna be a lot of "doomers" on all sides. We all know the gope are losers who only care about sucking Israel's dick.

I will say this on demographics. I've been preaching about the doom of demographics for like a decade and a half now, but I remain surprised by how many spics the GOP has actually managed to pull into the fold. I figured ten years ago by now Florida and Texas would be blue, and while I continue to worry about Texas, it seems my prediction about Florida was wrong. I think the GOP needs to figure out how to expand that base while not losing white voters. It's been pointed out before, but Republicans did pretty well with Hispanics all things considered in 2020 and 2022. The issue is the GOP is bleeding their base (lower/middle class white workers). If Trump had gotten the numbers with white voters that he had got in 2016, he would've won in 2020 even with the shit ton of fraud.

I think what's gonna decide 2024 is if we get a recession or not. I think a recession would be enough to tip things a bit more toward the GOP to at least make things more of a toss up, and while I find it unlikely, if the GOP gets its head out of its ass and stops alienating its base they have a chance. GOP has to decide if it actually wants to win or not though, and history has proven they love cucking.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

He did that to school food as well. probably came from the same factory for all i know. It finally got better when trump got elected but I graduated that year so i didn't get any of the good stuff.

Sorry for being a bit late, but as a person who worked for the company that provided a huge portion of school lunches (thanks Michelle), we did also provide for the military.

We also provided for prisons and nursing homes. I was quite literally instructed by my bosses to permit substandard product (very old, literally full of beetles, literally rotting) to be shipped out. In the four years I worked there, the QA department (where I worked) literally never got a *single* complaint, nor rejected *any* product.

The contrast between that, and the next place I worked which would literally destroy a whole day of production to save quality, was horrific.

 

[The Last Stand]

Honestly, from a purely pragmatic, utterly selfish standpoint, a person would have to be an idiot to be Republican. There's no upside for the individual.

Where does that leave me?

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

it seems my prediction about Florida was wrong.

Florida remains a red state because its the elephant graveyard for boomers. Once they start dying off in high numbers Florida will once again be at risk. On the other hand, all of the states these new Florida boomers left are now slanting hard into blue control.

 

[The Ugly One]

It’s not dooming to say it’s going to be a steep uphill battle at a very minimum. “Everything is going to be okay xddddd” doesn’t mean anything. Like my nigga ConfederateIrishman said, optimism without any kind of plan behind it is cowardice. This isn’t just for Trump, any Republican is going to have to at a minimum have a strategy that accounts for the demographic shifts that place then at a greater disadvantage every day. Also recall “hispandering” was the centerpiece of McCain and Romney and they lost white votes because of it.

Also once again the word “doomer” in practice means you don’t believe Republicans are going to solve every issue unilaterally. People are as sick and tired of the do nothing Republicans with a perpetual thumb up their ass who only care about Israel and tax cuts as they are the perverted warmongering Democrats. Gonna be a lot of “doomers” who think both parties are dog shit.

A "doomer" is just somebody who correctly predicts the future. There are people who think that what you predict has significant influence on what comes to pass, like if we all just tell ourselves that the 10 point suburban blue shift in 2020 is going to reverse, then it will, and if it doesn't, it's the fault of the people who didn't believe hard enough.

Are the Republicans perfect? No, but currently you look at the candidates and stances the Dems have on issues and least some Republicans are better than the Dems. Notice how when Trump was in charge America was at least the US was respected and could keep its hegemony. Look at the kind of candidates the Dems prop up, literal socialists and retarded people like Fetterman.

You're reasoning about politics like a white male. Sure, people who think like this vote Republican. The problem is women and nonwhites do not think like this, and that's why they vote Democrat. Best to understand people who aren't like you so you can understand why the Democrats are winning.

 

[John.Doe]

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New Trump campaign ad dropped, feels like a movie trailer lol

Gives me big tail end of Weimar vibes, reminds me of this poster:

[Our last hope: Hitler]

 

[ZMOT]

That music

that new season of JAG looks weird.

I think the GOP needs to figure out how to expand that base while not losing white voters. It's been pointed out before, but Republicans did pretty well with Hispanics all things considered in 2020 and 2022. The issue is the GOP is bleeding their base (lower/middle class white workers). If Trump had gotten the numbers with white voters that he had got in 2016, he would've won in 2020 even with the shit ton of fraud.

the new game is to not let those people vote at all, look at maricopa county.

inevitably something has to give either way, people are gonna notice life gets more shitty every day and want to blame someone/fall for a savior. you can see that in cucked countries who already have been culturally enriched; while some retards cuck even harder, another part of the population becomes more racist and radicalized, same as @Antenna7's meme.

what happens inbetween and afterwards is anyone's guess, but going by history it won't be pretty.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Florida remains a red state because its the elephant graveyard for boomers. Once they start dying off in high numbers Florida will once again be at risk. On the other hand, all of the states these new Florida boomers left are now slanting hard into blue control.

I've literally heard this my entire fucking life now

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

that new season of JAG looks weird.

Imagine of DU30 was still in charge, how would those exercises look. And what kind of music would play.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

You hope for the best and you prepare for the worst.

There is no reason for anyone to think "we just need to VOOOOOOTE HARDER!!!!" is gonna magically solve all problems at this point. However you would also need to be a dumbass not to try and vote. Voting puts pressure on the system. Even if you think the votes mean nothing and it is all fraudulent the act of voting still forced that the people in charge will have to put the work to fraud the election and change the results, it makes the system look as fake as it introduces failure points in the machinery of state that could be very useful in the future to try and force the issue.

At the same time one needs to realize that the votes might not be enough and remember the Four Box principle of the US Revolution. First comes the Soap Box, then the Ballot Box, then the Jury Box, and finally the Cartridge Box.

So you keep voting, even if you think it might not work and be pointless, because engaging with the Ballot Box buys you time to stockpile Cartridge Boxes.

Furthermore it is important to keep in mind how much of the current system, and modern tyranny in general since the early 20th century, has been built on enforcing consensus. You need to do your part to crack the illusion of it and call out the lies. I don't mean the election fraud stuff I am talking about the more insidious lies that are far more outrageous, like the insistence that Trannies are real and honest Women and that the Economy is the best it ever was and that Joe Biden is not senile guys and totally in charge and the Commander in Chief. Normies are cowed into accepting this shit by social pressure to comply, and like weak fuckers they lower their heads because deep down most people in the Western World believe others would try and act in good faith.

That is the big issue that people need to understand in the western world: That tranny doesn't just "want to live her life" he is a pervert with AGP and pretending otherwise. No, gun control is not about the kids and you fucking know that the statistics make no sense. No the government isn't cracking down on "hate speech" because it gives a shit about trannies or faggots or niggers, it just wants a excuse to control you and it is a lot easier for police to go after Timothy who said fuck niggers in class than it is to actually deal with Tyrone who has 4 homicides under his belt at 17 already.

The people pushing this shit are not acting in good faith. You cannot keep acting like that is the case. They honestly believe, with religious conviction, that their way leads to Utopia and as such any and all actions are justified because they bring paradise closer to being real. They firnly buy into the MovieBob mantra of "No bad tactics, only bad targets" and numerous hundreds of examples in the last few years of retarded centrist conservatives and liberal going "imagine if the situation was reversed" should have already fucking shown this but they cannot admit it.

This is why people like DeSantis shills talking about "baggage", limp wrist centrists, "moderate conservatives", normie liberals that fall for shit like BLM and StopAsianHate and such are so dangerous. They keep falling for this shit hook like and sinker.

 

[The Last Stand]

At the same time one needs to realize that the votes might not be enough and remember the Four Box principle of the US Revolution. First comes the Soap Box, then the Ballot Box, then the Jury Box, and finally the Cartridge Box.

So you keep voting, even if you think it might not work and be pointless, because engaging with the Ballot Box buys you time to stockpile Cartridge Boxes.

Ah yes, another doomer take on "why voting doesn't work."

That's why there's legislation of anti-trans bills being passed in certain states through this insanity. That's why DeSantis is passing bill after bill for his Florida citizens. That's why more people are being atone with LOCAL politics given how corrupt the federal government is becoming.

If voting did not matter, explain how Portland and Chicago are in the state they're in now. The people and policies they elect are reaping what they sow with increasing crime rates for the sake of progressivism.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Retard didn't even comprehend what I wrote. I am not saying voting works or doesn't work, I am explaining that even if you think it is absolutely useless to try and vote to change things it is still worthy to go and vote.

Sometimes voting works, sometimes it doesn't. Not all elections are equal,.

 

[mandatorylurk]

GDP expected: 2%
Actual GDP for 1Q: 1.1%

Dropbox laying off 500 people, Gap laying off 1800 people, but Meta increases 15% because muh AI. We're back to Obummer managed decline.