I'm an early onset early transition tranny AMA - and if you look at my messages this is not a troll account i just hate troons

Well clearly it is, because you want everyone else to believe you and you're doing a piss poor job at it.
i dont need "everyone else" to believe me - only the non-autistic people i interact with in real life. that does not include you!
also, how would i "still" sound like a man if my voice never virilized properly lol
 
i dont need "everyone else" to believe me - only the non-autistic people i interact with in real life. that does not include you!
also, how would i "still" sound like a man if my voice never virilized properly lol
Yet you came here and made an account, made a thread about it and keep coming back to it.
Again we don't know what your voice sounds like but given how defensive you are over it I'm willing to bet you sound rough.

Screams the need for validation tbh.
 
a vagina that they were born with! you need an immense amount of cognitive dissonance for these mental gymnastics, its hilarious. explains your bootlicking too
What an astounding lack of reading comprehension! You are simply deliberately obtuse as anyone would otherwise understand the section (in the source that you cited) explaining it's a "shallow" vagina, meaning there is very little to no vaginal canal, because of course the men lack a uterus and ovaries, thus have no menarche and so no reason to have a canal. These males have testes instead so of course there's no ability for a male to have a functional vagina.

It is not a vagina, just an opening that needs dilation and reconstructive surgery to make it appear like one, and it's often not successful. Just like men who think they can become woman and get Frankenvaginas, except these poor men were born with a genetic defect.

The only mental gymnastics here are yours, and since I btfo your tranny bullshit with your own source you resort to name calling and insults.

By the way,
ты никогда не станешь женщиной

i dont need "everyone else" to believe me
Why are you here, then?
 
you dont class anyone as "women" in a legal sense - our passports say sex, not gender (maybe you live in a libtard shithole that has gender). it doesnt even have anything to do with legalese bullshit - they are assigned female at birth by a doctor who sees a vagina, not a penis.

Yes, we do class people as women in a legal sense. Females of the human species are women and enjoy numerous protections from discrimination in many countries based on that classification. CAIS individuals are an exceptional case of genetic misfortune who will never develop a typical male phenotype, will develop as a male who cannot process T which you might consider developing as a female, but, in reality, is the body of a T-deprived male which can be compared to eunuchs castrated as young children back in the day. In addition, CAIS comes with a host of other health issues.
In most developed countries, babies are given blood tests at birth that screen for rare diseases and conditions like CAIS. In developed countries, it is detected at birth. This is not a real problem that will exist as other countries improve medical practice. More and more, only kids born in shitholes will have to deal with the trauma of realising they are a genetic male in their 20s when they're married to another man and can't conceive.
CAIS people are often totally socialised as girls, have external female genital appearance and LITERALLY cannot process T, thus developing very weakly and being less of a physical threat to women than any tranny will ever be. I don't think many women would object to them being classified as such in some legal areas. Adoption. Marriage. Access to certain healthcare.
And then in social settings - bathrooms, sports as kids, and other female spaces.

And also you're a sick prick for even bringing DSDs into this, they have nothing to do with your tranny ideology.
 
because its funny.


russia bootlicker doesnt realize that the vagina is literally just the opening
Since I actually have a perfectly functioning one, because I have two X chromosomes, the idea of a man trying to tell me what a vagina is while throwing out weak bait is literally top kek.

I used the very same source you demanded I read. That you are an idiot in addition to being a useless tranny is unsurprising.

A vagina is not just an "opening" you retard
 
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I have endometriosis on my pouch of Douglas. Just saying. Very rare to see that piece of female anatomy referenced, particularly by a man.
Sorry to hear, sounds like no fun. Yeah this is a pet peeve of mine with troons. They want to be- claim to actually be- the opposite sex but don't even know one or two "insider" facts about the reality of that sex's existence. They think female anatomy is boobies and some kind of roughly penis shaped insertion port, they don't care or even realize what the other anatomical differences are. Which is why hucksters can sell them bs like "we will totally be doing male uterine transplants and male pregnancies within the decade!"

They're like weebs who go to Japan and think they will totally blend in because of how much they love Naruto and pocky and don't even know that Japanese has more than one alphabet system. (We politely omit that they are also twice the weight and a head taller than anyone else around them in Tokyo.)

russia bootlicker doesnt realize that the vagina is literally just the opening
See like this, for instance. This imbecile claims he really is a true and honest woman and he doesn't know that the vagina is the inside part.


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Sorry to hear, sounds like no fun. Yeah this is a pet peeve of mine with troons. They want to be- claim to actually be- the opposite sex but don't even know one or two "insider" facts about the reality of that sex's existence. They think female anatomy is boobies and some kind of roughly penis shaped insertion port, they don't care or even realize what the other anatomical differences are. Which is why hucksters can sell them bs like "we will totally be doing male uterine transplants and male pregnancies within the decade!"

They're like weebs who go to Japan and think they will totally blend in because of how much they love Naruto and pocky and don't even know that Japanese has more than one alphabet system. (We politely omit that they are also twice the weight and a head taller than anyone else around them in Tokyo.)


See like this, for instance. This imbecile claims he really is a true and honest woman and he doesn't know that the vagina is the inside part.


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As I said before:
Women have their unique experiences and upbringing and that also includes biology.

This troon proves me right every time he replies. He doesn't even know what I meant by "shared experiences and trauma" and what it's meant by a lot of things that women know by default. Good news is that he'll always feel alienated and weirded out by both sexes since he's neither a woman or a normal functioning male. He will never feel in place. He doesn't even talk like a woman to begin with lmao
 
As a fellow male, I was wondering what your theory of mind is about women. How do you think women think about things differently than a man?

Follow-up question: Do you really believe in good faith you are a woman, and biology, your past experiences, and the culture you grew up in does not make you fundamentally not a woman? How do you reconcile that?
 
is the body of a T-deprived male which can be compared to eunuchs castrated as young children back in the day.
you think eunuchs had vaginas?
In most developed countries, babies are given blood tests at birth that screen for rare diseases and conditions like CAIS.
In developed countries, it is detected at birth.
nope, its too rare - what is often done is karyotyping, to uncover severe chromosomal disorders. if the baby ends up having the wrong genitals for their karyotype its explored further.
thus developing very weakly and being less of a physical threat to women than any tranny will ever be.
lmao
what a vagina is while throwing out weak bait is literally top kek.
you claimed women with cais have "just a hole", when the vagina (specifically the vaginal canal) literally is the hole.
See like this, for instance. This imbecile claims he really is a true and honest woman and he doesn't know that the vagina is the inside part.
see above, youre autistic
As a fellow male, I was wondering what your theory of mind is about women. How do you think women think about things differently than a man?
outside of the known differences between male and female brains, a la facial recognition, language, motor skills, and so on, claiming that "women think about things differently than a man" seems retarded.
Do you really believe in good faith you are a woman, and biology, your past experiences, and the culture you grew up in does not make you fundamentally not a woman? How do you reconcile that?
my biology makes me not female, not not a woman. my past experiences and the culture i grew up in ultimately have no say in what my gender is - you are mixing up socialization (which differs, even for normal people) with your brain sex.
 
Dropping in for a reminder that "brain gender" and "body sex" being different things is unscientific horse manure invented by John Money's proto troon self-hating sexual abuse neurosis. The pedo even thought that gelding young boys would make them less violent. All of these bogus tranny "studies" trace themselves back to the time when the Reimer twins experiment was uncritically accepted as proof of Money's "socialized brain gender" bunk. Your brain isn't separate from your body. Your brain is male. Just like the rest of you. Daivd Reimer was "socialized female" and it had no effect on his adult sex. Pumping yourself full of estrogen doesn't give you girlbrain. Being raised wearing dresses doesn't make you a girl. You don't have a woman's brain. "Trannies akshully have the opposite sex's brain" is troon cope. You're a man who wants to cut his dick off because you have mental disorder. That you respond to arguments like a smug, belligerent teenage boy is all the proof I need.
 
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i dont need "everyone else" to believe me - only the non-autistic people i interact with in real life. that does not include you!
also, how would i "still" sound like a man if my voice never virilized properly lol
It's malding. Good.
Yet you came here and made an account, made a thread about it and keep coming back to it.
Again we don't know what your voice sounds like but given how defensive you are over it I'm willing to bet you sound rough.

Screams the need for validation tbh.
Could it be that faggot from "It's Ma'am!!!" video?

russia bootlicker~
Oh fucking great, guess it's not just a troon boys, it's nafofaggot/hoholsimp from thunderdome's happenings sub. My theory this is a sock account finds its way to become alive at some point.

So, butthurt belt or polish cow?
 
There aren't. If you transition early you're better off just going stealth and never mentioning this shit to anyone again, precisely because*of people like you.
You just haven't looked hard enough.
No, there aren't. I haven't seen a single sufficiently passing tranny who publicized being a tranny enough for me to find them.
see above. This is just an excuse for you to be lazy and completely ignore the argument. How about I prove you wrong by arguing your own point for you?
If you wanted to show well-known troons that pass relatively well, you could have easily shown:
Stacy Cay, an incredibly unfunny "comedian" from Missouri who makes himself well known in the twitter replies of every major trans issue
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(This one is kinda cheating though, he only passes due to multiple cosmetic surgeries)
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Blaire White, a very well known tranny conservative commentator. I'm surprised you don't know about him already since you both believe that you're the only true and honest woman among trannykind
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(This one is kinda cheating though, he only slightly passes due to multiple cosmetic surgeries [pictured on the right])
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and Eden Knight, a Saudi troon who became the subject of many news articles because he killed himself over his billionaire parents getting him deported. This one is surprisingly not cheating as Eden never received any cosmetic surgery to my knowledge.
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and that's just a few. It took me at most 10 minutes worth of google searching to find all of these examples that are favorable to you. You're welcome.
There is no documentation. We don't even know how they trooned jazz out. All we have is a bunch of retarded accounts from severely retarded people (the parents and the doctors).
First of all jazz apparently took fucking oral estradiol (initially)
Clearly there is in fact documentation on the subject, considering that you contradicted your argument in your own post.
They actually aren't - but actual transsexual adolescents don't publicize being trans themselves, and most of their parents are sane enough to not do so either -
I'll give you that point, as I was actually going to get into it in a later argument. I had a really good friend in middle school who was a lesbian-turned "straight" ftm who trooned out during the middle of 7th grade. She was never outspoken about it after the fact and just continued living life normally. Her girlfriend at the time then proceeded to also troon out and acted exactly like how you would expect an autoandrophile pooner to act. This made her incredibly uncomfortable, to the point that she celebrated her mom getting a job back in her home state because it was an excuse to get away.
The "evidence" that you are proposing would entail basically ruining the life prospects of at best tens, more like hundreds of individuals. I think that is insane.
When I say documentation, I am not advocating for forced publicity like in the case of Jennings. I understand that it ruins lives. Rather, I am arguing for anonymous medical research into issues like musculoskeletal development, fat distribution, etc. Y'know, the medical points I have been arguing on?
You havent seen ftms troon out, evidently.
I go to college in America. Believe me, I've been around more trannies than any person should. Why do you think I don't like them?
On my morning and evening walks around campus I would see at least 12 obvious pooners on most days. How did I know they were pooners? Most of them were part of GSA, so it was their entire personality. The ugly troon banner was on clothes and backpack pins and one of them even wore a trans flag as a cape on some days. They let you knew before you could even clock them.
There's also the previously mentioned example of my middle school friend.
Lol, claiming that mtfs get "micromoobs". First of all jazz apparently took fucking oral estradiol (initially), which is generally a terrible administration method and nets subpar breast development because of e1;e2 level. I have no clue when that picture was taken, but do you genuinely expect women who have late puberty (12 is kinda late) to have tanner 5 breasts by the age of 19 (I think thats when the weight gain started?)?
This paragraph proves my point on Jazz only having boobs because he's a fat cow. Thank you for elaborating the point for me. Let's get one thing clear though - Jazz is not a woman. He is a gay man who was forced to be a troon by his insane mom. He is very comparable to David Reimer before him.
Reimer was a young boy who had his penis accidentally chopped off during a botched circumcision. Under the supervision of psychologist John Money, he was raised as a female. Reimer never viewed himself that way and it caused a lot of mental strife. He killed himself at the age of 38, which his brother solely blames on John Money. Jennings is Reimer lite - instead of killing himself he just binge eats now
It doesn't change the fact that the case is fucked up. The way I understand it they prevented any significant genital development and didn't even get her to tanner 2 off blockers before HRT - this is all bad practice and severely retarded.
I agree with you. It is very fucked up. Jazz Jennings is living, breathing proof that transition should be completely off the table until one is old enough to make an informed decision. If you ask me where to draw the line, I'd say 18. Kids can't make their own decisions and teenagers are known to be shortsighted and impulsive. Adults know what they are getting into.

One of the main reasons I chose Jazz for this argument is that you trooned out when you were young. the diagnosis was handed to you at ten years old. I wanted to show you where that leads.
I have seen a lot of morbidly a beast women who look pretty similar. If anything I can literally put "obese woman" in google images and find women with similar fat distribution in their abdominal and thigh region.
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Let's play a game of "spot the difference". These images are google image search results for "obese woman". can you see how they differ from jazz?
I don't see it. Maybe I'm not autistic enough to research how to clock trannies for thousands of hours.
for someone who throws autistic around as much as you, I thought you would have had a decent understanding of the condition. Many people on the autism spectrum have a symptom known as prosopagnosia, or face blindness. Face blindness affects the ability to properly recognize faces in detail. It's part of the reason why AGP troons think they pass. It is actually harder for an autist to clock a tranny than it is for a normal person. Just goes to show how freakish the average troon is kek
You think that transitioning early automatically makes you the most likely to have your bones (or anything, for that matter) dramatically change - yet again ignoring the fact that everyones response to HRT is not identical.
Nowhere in my argument did I ignore the fact that everyone responds to HRT differently. The body is much more susceptible to changes in its formative years and much less sexually dimorphic, meaning that cases of really young troonouts like Jazz's are more likely to show a degree of change unseen in an adult troon.
You don't understand what facial recognition is - I'm not referring to reverse image search, I'm referring to using those facial features, which we want to look at, to find matches. I have personally done this to see if I can be doxxed using a picture of my face - and it's plausible. Here.
I have edited a picture of James Gandolfini, a very famous actor who played Tony Soprano in the hit tv show The Sopranos, using all of the obfuscation methods listed in my last post. Here's a refresher.
Adding the stereotypical spy movie black bar over the eyes, altering the picture's saturation, adding visual noise through filters
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Here's an unedited video clip of me running this obfuscated picture through the very same software you linked.

You can easily test this yourself and get the same results. Reverse image search is actually better for "doxing" in this case, as it instantly pulls up the source of the sopranos image.
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Your point is moot. If you sent an obfuscated picture using my methods and it's one that has never been on the internet before, you'd be totally fine.

Obviously it would still be better to argue using already well known troons. No doxing scare at all that way. I already gave you some examples on that front.
 
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