Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[George Floyd Sneed]

They recently discovered alogging as a term and have been driving that into the ground in recent weeks, which made me think they were KF readers. Wednesday’s TDS confirms they’re active readers.

I’m also happy to say that the TRS shills and alogs have disappeared since just having the .onion site. A lot of the chaff has disappeared since the change and KF is a better reading experience.

 

[RichardMongler]

They recently discovered alogging as a term and have been driving that into the ground in recent weeks, which made me think they were KF readers. Wednesday’s TDS confirms they’re active readers.

It's likely their buddies who do read this forum and/or are active on the Fediverse informed them. I can't imagine them wasting too much time browsing this site apart from mining for content to feature on their shows, but they have acknowledged my Holocaust thread.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

No FTN for the second time in a row. The comment section of his last episode, which is of his trip to Italy last year, claims that Jazzhands is really just working on something big but if people keep whining about FTN not being made regularly, he’s totally going to stop working on his big, epic project.

No more FTN is an end of an era. It went to shit these last couple years but from 2015-2018, it was my favorite podcast. RIP

 

[Finnish Air Force]

The comment section of his last episode, which is of his trip to Italy last year, claims that Jazzhands is really just working on something big

That's funny. The comments on the latest TDS claim he's on family leave.

 

[Passing Through Town]

more of an envy thing that Keef got boosted by mainstream conservatives while they got shunned

I think this is the correct take. They repeatedly shit on Keith for being "pro-Elon" or "pro-Twitter" when he explicitly criticizes both on Twitter. The fact that Mike and Jordan insisted that Keith should make "demands" of Elon after getting that massive boost in attention on the Irish hate-speech bill was insane. Expecting someone to take that opportunity and just piss on Elon with it really shows how childish the guys at TRS are. It's generous to even call them political at this rate. They're so deep in drama that that's how they've started to view politics as a whole. To them it's all just a big clout chasing game, so seeing someone else get some clout pisses them off.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I think this is the correct take. They repeatedly shit on Keith for being "pro-Elon" or "pro-Twitter" when he explicitly criticizes both on Twitter. The fact that Mike and Jordan insisted that Keith should make "demands" of Elon after getting that massive boost in attention on the Irish hate-speech bill was insane. Expecting someone to take that opportunity and just piss on Elon with it really shows how childish the guys at TRS are. It's generous to even call them political at this rate. They're so deep in drama that that's how they've started to view politics as a whole. To them it's all just a big clout chasing game, so seeing someone else get some clout pisses them off.

Keef did just that, though, but it was not enough for Mike and Strike.
[A]

Even JF Gariepy (I'm almost certain) made the same demands of Twitter, and the dude is like a complete coward these days, telling people that he's a libertarian and that he hates "Internet fascists".
The thing is, Elon is likely just clueless about who he is responding to or boosting, and he acts like a child with a toy. He sees a tweet he likes and goes "hmm yes very interesting how 'bout dat" without giving a fuck about who makes the claims or wondering about motivations.
TRS did not have the occasion to get boosted cause the moment they went back on Twitter they started to sperg out and post Hitler memes and praising the Reich (we're just testing free speech bro), and got shoahed one by one. After the ADL picked up and moaned about it to Elon, he probably decided that open neonazism is not worth the trouble.
Fairly sure there are machinations and power struggles at Twitter. Fuentes got reinstated and immediately rebanned. Anglin managed to stay on like 2-3 months, but he also got banned. There are people more moderate compared to Keef and Joel still banned (who are, let's be honest, pretty much Nazis too, would've probably fit well with the strasserite faction), like Jared Taylor, or Greg Johnson, who are usually slur-free and presenting an old fashioned, polite white nationalism/separatism.
But somebody at Twitter doesn't want them back. There's basically no rational explanation from letting back Fuentes and Michael E. Jones, or Anglin, and keeping Uncle Jared away.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

That's funny. The comments on the latest TDS claim he's on family leave.

According to Jazzhands himself there should’ve been an episode today and there wasn’t. At this point it has been about a month since a new FTN came out. This is how it starts: updates become less regular, the excuses pile up and suddenly due to family obligations, they won’t do the show anymore but they’ll totally show up on a regular basis, just like Halberstram, ethnarch, James Allsup, Bulbasaur, Ghoul, and all the other hosts who are totes coming back?

 

[NSJAP]

Making lists of Jews

 

[The Pulverizer]

What's the consensus on the NJP? Better or worse than America First?

 

[Throwing Romans]

What's the consensus on the NJP? Better or worse than America First?

i mean if that's the standard you have to hit, not a high bar. Significantly less grooming in NJP from what I've seen!

 

[Muad'Dick]

i mean if that's the standard you have to hit, not a high bar. Significantly less grooming in NJP from what I've seen!

I doubt they fully cleaned house after Ghoul.

 

[RichardMongler]

What's the consensus on the NJP? Better or worse than America First?

i mean if that's the standard you have to hit, not a high bar. Significantly less grooming in NJP from what I've seen!

Pretty much. TRS and the NJP really cannot be compared to Nick Fuentes and America First because the two networks are fundamentally different movements. That being said, I see more wives and children within NJP than in AF. From that standpoint, TRS succeeds in the most basic of biological functions: producing viable offspring. Nick Fuentes seems keen on cloaking himself in the holy cloth, so let's look at Matthew 7:15-20, shall we?

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

From what I can see, America First is a rotten tree with very rotten fruit.

I doubt they fully cleaned house after Ghoul.

That remains to be seen. People online love to allege all sorts of foul improprieties and misconduct with scant evidence. That said, I have yet to see anything approaching Ghoul since 2017. Every scandal that hit TRS since then promised so much and delivered so little; Andrew Anglin, Johnny Monoxide, Greg Conte, Godcast and so on.

 

[Throwing Romans]

I doubt they fully cleaned house after Ghoul.

Oh I doubt it as well - no organization is ever fully clean, and TRS has had its share of scandals and dishonesty. However, it's pretty obvious which organization still has repeated issues with cozying up to faggots and child molesters.

 

[The Delta Farce]

I'm as anti-homo as can be but I feel like TRS stance has been a bit dumb on the grooming thing in AF. If a 17 year old boy can be "groomed" he was already gay to begin with. Or maybe retarded. No mentally competent 17 year old boy would send dick pics to a man. Same thing with Ghoul. He supposedly groomed an 18 year old. Again I'm all for fedposting against fags but you can't groom someone that old. They were already a fag.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The typical AF groyper is the perfect mix of retarded and insecure. It would not be tough to convince any of them to send dick pics over because they’re desperate to be a part of an organization that accepts them. It’s a cold world and there are people desperate to fit in somewhere. Lots of stories of high school and even college hazing that involve gay shit and they’re straight (supposedly). I’d never do it but I’m not a groyper either. In a more sane society they’d probably join a club after school and would never think of sending dick pics but we’re in current year plus eight. Ali Akbar is scum and that applies to all of the AF “leadership.”

 

[Lester Tasker]

What's the consensus on the NJP? Better or worse than America First?

About even IMO.

As grifts, they seem to do well for the tops of both. It seems like TRS has more employees, and if they're all making their living from it they may be making more money. Point NJP.

Politically, Fuentes has met and had friendly relations with incumbent politicians, although he has fallen out with all (?) of them, apparently met with Trump ergo through Kanye West (who he has fallen out with). I don't think NJP has actually done anything in the realm of politics. Point AF if only because he attempted to enter the political world to some extent.

Rallies, both have done public demonstrations and conferences. It's hard to judge the success of these, Fuentes rallied for Stop the Steal (failure) and anti-lockdown stuff (which was going to wind down eventually either way). NJP rallies ask for hate crime charges against blacks, which has never panned out as far as I can tell. Both draw small / moderate crowds of their supporters. Same goes for their conferences, maybe AF edges there for having outside politicians attend occasionally. I'll call it a draw.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I think the only rally they could claim victory on was Jupiter Paulsen. The North Dakota cuckservatives were ready and willing to look the other way to let some nigger plead insanity and Fargo was just small enough, white enough, and conservative enough to reject it and the local cucks squealed hard enough about NJP to where it attracted attention that wound up benefiting NJP. Seems like the GOP learned their lessons because the NJP totally flat on all subsequent rallies and that was because conservatives stopped whining about NJP, effectively depriving them of oxygen.

In terms of AF v. NJP, it comes down to nuclear vs. irrelevant respectively. In many ways, staying under the radar is good but for a movement that wants to take over the US, that is not a good thing. Fuentes is shining proof that entryism will fail within the Gay Old Perverts. The NJP has no political plan. Vague talks about what they’ll do when they win but in the meantime gib $30/month.

 

[RichardMongler]

About even IMO.

As grifts, they seem to do well for the tops of both. It seems like TRS has more employees, and if they're all making their living from it they may be making more money. Point NJP.

Politically, Fuentes has met and had friendly relations with incumbent politicians, although he has fallen out with all (?) of them, apparently met with Trump ergo through Kanye West (who he has fallen out with). I don't think NJP has actually done anything in the realm of politics. Point AF if only because he attempted to enter the political world to some extent.

Rallies, both have done public demonstrations and conferences. It's hard to judge the success of these, Fuentes rallied for Stop the Steal (failure) and anti-lockdown stuff (which was going to wind down eventually either way). NJP rallies ask for hate crime charges against blacks, which has never panned out as far as I can tell. Both draw small / moderate crowds of their supporters. Same goes for their conferences, maybe AF edges there for having outside politicians attend occasionally. I'll call it a draw.

I think the only rally they could claim victory on was Jupiter Paulsen. The North Dakota cuckservatives were ready and willing to look the other way to let some nigger plead insanity and Fargo was just small enough, white enough, and conservative enough to reject it and the local cucks squealed hard enough about NJP to where it attracted attention that wound up benefiting NJP. Seems like the GOP learned their lessons because the NJP totally flat on all subsequent rallies and that was because conservatives stopped whining about NJP, effectively depriving them of oxygen.

In terms of AF v. NJP, it comes down to nuclear vs. irrelevant respectively. In many ways, staying under the radar is good but for a movement that wants to take over the US, that is not a good thing. Fuentes is shining proof that entryism will fail within the Gay Old Perverts. The NJP has no political plan. Vague talks about what they’ll do when they win but in the meantime gib $30/month.

I would say it's an accurate assessment that America First is thoroughly toxic and compromised whereas the National Justice Party and TheRightStuff are ghettoized and irrelevant. Both function as pressure release valves for discontent Americans feeling dispossessed and disenfranchised who don't fit it with the GOP, but America First believes in entryism whereas the National Justice Party operates through the Fascist equivalent to Vanguardism.

Another key difference between the two is that America First exists almost entirely online with occasional in-person events attended by washed up conservative personalities (hello Gavin McInnes, Laura Loomer and Michelle Malkin) and political operatives with dubious agendas and alleged sexual misconduct (hello Milo Yiannopoulos and Ali Alexander). Only clownshow politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar have thus far associated with them, and any attempt to steer the GOP towards something in the line of Pat Buchanan or Charles Lindbergh has consistently proven futile.

The National Justice Party and TheRightStuff, outside their podcasting network, is much more insular and offline. They supposedly are attempting to build real-life organizations, but it remains to be seen what fruit it will bear. As of now, they hold in-person meetings at undisclosed rural locations and stage protests over issues involving White victims of Black crime and opposition to increasing efforts within LGBTQ+ to reach out to children. The only people who really seem to notice them are Antifa bloggers and liberal hanger-ons from the Trump era.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

That’s a pretty good assessment of things.

I don’t think there was ever much value in having washed up political commentators like Michelle Malkin and nuts like Marjorie Taylor Greene associate with AF. It didn’t actually give AF any legitimacy. Meanwhile Mike Enoch still talks about the one time Ann Coulter retweeted him five years ago when missiles were launched into Syria. But I think NJP knows they will never get any washed up commentators so they don’t try.

The only people who really seem to notice them are Antifa bloggers and liberal hanger-ons from the Trump era.

Even they stopped paying attention. Seems like the people that fund and organize antifa have realized the best solution is to ignore the NJP. Gastonia was a complete flop and the reason why is that they were totally ignored. Even the TRS podcasts have largely forgotten about Gastonia and prefer to spend time continuing discussing rallies they held where they got a crumb of attention. They will keep holding those rallies because they need to occasionally demonstrate some value with the membership dues.

 

[RichardMongler]

Even they stopped paying attention. Seems like the people that fund and organize antifa have realized the best solution is to ignore the NJP. Gastonia was a complete flop and the reason why is that they were totally ignored

More accurately, Antifa bloggers focus on those they either can make a mockery of or those that genuinely threaten them. In the case of America First, that entire spectacle produces endlessly drama for them to paint the American right as a retarded clownshow (which it is) whose influencers have no principles and brazenly contradict their own supposed beliefs in their personal conduct. "See, conservatives are the REAL groomers, not drag queens" is lately a favorite refrain from libtard and Antifa bloggers. Not that the left wouldn't dismiss the right's concern about the sexualization of children via all-ages drag shows as pearl-clutching, but now, America First's scandals with Ali Alexander has been a gift that keeps on giving for the libtard press. That the guy who runs angrywhitemen.org returned to blogging just as these scandals around America First arose says it all.

The reason Antifa bloggers went so hard on Trump was because, for the first time, a Republican Presidential candidate broke script constantly and kept succeeding in the polls. He energized a largely dormant and ghettoized constituency which genuinely shocked and threatened the American left because, were he to deliver on even half of his promises and create an atmosphere that provided ample opportunity for potential political careers, the American right would no longer be affirming the left's principles. They would not be interested in arguing over "Who's the real racist/Fascist/sexist" because they would be operating from a fundamentally different set of principles that contradict everything the left believes in. The left accurately saw a successful Trump Presidency as the potential end of them, so they worked overtime to castrate the American right at every turn with the help of a vast and powerful apparatus consisting of legal organizations, politicians, law enforcement, journalists, press and media networks.

The one thing to give the left tons of credit for is never allowing themselves to be tied to Communism (especially the Soviet Union or any of these other shithole dictatorships like East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Albania or Romania) and forever having to distinguish themselves to be in accordance with Capitalism or whatever. When pressed by their perceived and actual enemies, the left simply said they were "Anti-anti-Communist" and focused all of their energy attacking the pathetic response to them much like you see today with anti-anti-SJWs and BreadTubers. Sure, they embarrass themselves constantly (hello Vaush), but they never discredit themselves. Conservatives, on the other hand, don't have the balls to become "anti-anti-Fascist" . Instead, they just affirm the left's values which are an inversion of the right's values.