🐟 Fishtank Fishtank.Live General - Jet Neptune's Pisces Aquarium Internet Reality Show w/ Host Bam Margera

[Mr.Bucket]

I tuned in right as Letty burst into tears, and then saw Jet and Sam say in the hallway that "that was too far/that was fucked up". Holy crap sometimes these scenes look like the start of a snuff film.

They're doing some smoking challenge now, first to finish the cig wins. I'm gonna assume Josie wins since she vapes like crazy and Letty looks like she's never smoked before in her life, based on how she's holding and lighting the cig.

Edit: Yeahhh Josie won by a landslide.

That's a beyond retarded challenge.
"Actively damage your lungs to win this challenge."

 

[Aidan]

That's a beyond retarded challenge.
"Actively damage your lungs to win this challenge."

Agree it's a dumb challenge but Josie won by not inhaling the smoke. Obviously this was against the intent of the challenge and Sam joked about them redoing it and they both have to inhale this time.

 

[ThePissWitch]

Made this, pretty self explanatory

 

[CoolFool]

The guys are spitting water all over the girls, why do I feel like they're getting off to this? Whatever, it's dumb challenge because they decide who wins, again.

 

[not_your_business]

The guys are spitting water all over the girls, why do I feel like they're getting off to this? Whatever, it's dumb challenge because they decide who wins, again.

Yeah most challenges have been fine with me, but this one has weird undertones.

 

[afternoon_tea]

Jet repeating "it's not your fault" to make Letty cry was kind of heavy shit. Takes someone with a fucked up background like he has to know how effective that could be.

 

[Enig]

Jet repeating "it's not your fault" to make Letty cry was kind of heavy shit. Takes someone with a fucked up background like he has to know how effective that could be.

A fucked up background of watching Family Guy

 

[Aidan]

Jet repeating "it's not your fault" to make Letty cry was kind of heavy shit. Takes someone with a fucked up background like he has to know how effective that could be.

It's from Good Will Hunting and I don't think had much impact on Letty's crying.

 

[CoolFool]

The boys are now smelling the girl's breath to see who has the baddest smelling breath. Getting up ALL in their mouths and being gross. Josie is super uncomfortable. Two petite girls in a room full of obnoxious degenerate males feels off, but then again, I am a wimp.

Anyway, after ripping on the girls and telling them how terrible their breath is, at least Jet acts nicer afterwards and tells them that both of their breath doesn't smell bad and his smells worse in a way to try to make the situation less awkward. Still didn't care for this challenge or the last, since, yet again, they pick the winner.

 

[C. Cactus]

The boys are now smelling the girl's breath to see who has the baddest smelling breath. Getting up ALL in their mouths and being gross. Josie is super uncomfortable. Two petite girls in a room full of obnoxious degenerate males feels off, but then again, I am a wimp.

Anyway, after ripping on the girls and telling them how terrible their breath is, at least Jet acts nicer afterwards and tells them that both of their breath doesn't smell bad and his smells worse in a way to try to make the situation less awkward. Still didn't care for this challenge or the last, since, yet again, they pick the winner.

It was uncomfortable but keep in mind that both of these girls signed up for something advertised as a "hell house" and can quit at any time. It has to be weird for them because that's the fucking point, and it's funny.

I know I defend the show a lot on here. I swear I'm not a crazy Sam Hyde fanboy or something, I haven't even watched MDE. Maybe I just have lower standards, because I wouldn't change much at all about Fishtank if I could.

 

[ThePissWitch]

I'm honestly a little leary of Sam now. I'm the same age as him and, even if it's deserved to some extent, it's still hard to watch 20 year old women, basically kids, get called fat or verbally abused. The fact that Sam has a hate boner for Letty makes me like him a lot less. I had it on in the background at work for the first week or so but now I just catch the updated on here.

Unfortunately Sam's abusing women humour is not really a schtick and tends to reflect a hatred towards women.

 

[C. Cactus]

Unfortunately Sam's abusing women humour is not really a schtick and tends to reflect a hatred towards women.

An unfortunate side effect of being funny is it comes with being really cynical. A lot of comedians are very angry people. Sort of a double edged sword.

 

[CoolFool]

It was uncomfortable but keep in mind that both of these girls signed up for something advertised as a "hell house" and can quit at any time. It has to be weird for them because that's the fucking point, and it's funny.

I know I defend the show a lot in here. I swear I'm not a crazy Sam Hyde fanboy or something, I haven't even watched MDE. Maybe I just have lower standards, because I genuinely wouldn't change much at all if I could.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that these types of challenges feel different from the rest and feel like they're skirting past "uncomfortable" and getting close to being "too far".

Just to be clear, I'm not accusing these guys of doing something wrong or that they need to be MeToo'd, just pointing out that these types of challenges really feel a different kind of uncomfortable and it in turn makes me uncomfortable. But like I said, I'm a wimp, I wouldn't last even half a day on fish tank.

 

[Noble Redditor]

It was uncomfortable but keep in mind that both of these girls signed up for something advertised as a "hell house" and can quit at any time. It has to be weird for them because that's the fucking point, and it's funny.

I know I defend the show a lot on here. I swear I'm not a crazy Sam Hyde fanboy or something, I haven't even watched MDE. Maybe I just have lower standards, because I wouldn't change much at all about Fishtank if I could.

Don't worry about being a Sam Hyde fan. They're based. But the contestants didn't sign up for Hell House, they signed up for Fish Tank. That's how it was advertised. It just turned out that most of the contestants found out about the competition through Sam Hydes social media so they had an idea of what they were getting into. Simmons and Mauro were the only two who didn't know who Sam was beforehand and the other contestants just pretended to not know. Jon wasn't really a Sam fan but he had heard of him. Vance, Sylvia and Letty were hardcore fans and Dam worked with Sam before.

I think that's why Sam feels comfortable doing what he's been doing. In his mind they're super fans and they wouldn't turn against him. Sam feels untouchable because he's proven that he is. He keeps getting away with stuff that would ruin almost anyone else.

That said, he's taken his biggest risk ever with this competition and I know there's a huge list of Bergs and Steins lining up to take a crack at him in court. The right lawyer says the right thing to Letty or Josie and there might be a legitimate case against him.

If he's able to come out of Fishtank without any legal issues it would be incredible. There's a reason Rochefort has kept far away from this project. It's insane Sam is taking this risk at the same time the MDE trio finally reunited and while World Peace 2 is in production. There's so much to lose and he just doesn't give a fuck. Good for him I guess.

 

[C. Cactus]

I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that these types of challenges feel different from the rest and feel like they're skirting past "uncomfortable" and getting close to being "too far".

Just to be clear, I'm not accusing these guys of doing something wrong or that they need to be MeToo'd, just pointing out that these types of challenges really feel a different kind of uncomfortable and it in turn makes me uncomfortable. But like I said, I'm a wimp, I wouldn't last even half a day on fish tank.

I get what you mean. It was legit hard to watch the spitting one and the bad breath one, and I would have tapped out at that point too. Props to them for putting up with all that, Stockholm Syndrome is real.

 

[Punitive Castration]

Okay I've gone over to the bad side of the viewership. Letty's a plant and nothing on Fishtank runs like how you think it runs. For whatever it means, I want Letty to "win" because Josie is not a good fish anyway.

In short, I don't know exactly how it works mechanically, but either Letty chooses who is eliminated, or if you fight Letty you are eliminated. Letty is rewarded for causing creating chaos.

Some rationale in no particular order:

Letty introduced the baby shaking plan, which some people consider to be the first act of evil in the house.

Letty introduced the slapping game on the night of the elimination and convinced Mauro to slap Vance and Chris later on. When Mauro was getting ready to slap Chris, Ben came upstairs and gave her a cigar with no explanation. Vance once remarked that when things are toxic or stressful in the house, Letty's mood "elevates." Unrelated to this bullet point but during the same conversation he also said he thought she was an actor when they first met - he might not be telling the truth, and instead just trying to shake her into admitting her role? He also asked her who she wanted to be gone next, and she said the freeloaders, not another fish. Vance said that was weird, and she said the other fish don't bother her as much as the freeloaders.

The producers and freeloaders are always naturally oriented against Letty. This could just be a Meg Griffin joke, or it could be a way of giving the other fish a reason to punch down on Letty and justify attacking her. During the fakeout end, Letty was put in a position to properly motivate the other fish against her going forward.
Frank was an enormous asshole towards Letty on his second visit, but on his first he gave her advice and talked about himself and seemed to motivate her to learn from him. Letty said even after his second visit that Frank was one of her favorite freeloaders. After the third or so time he dumped water on her, Frank asked her if she was doing okay, and when she said she was, he said "keep strong, soldier."
Chris seems to waver in and out attacking Letty because he lives there 24/7 but seems to return to it as his "job" most of the time. If Chris had physically assaulted anyone but a plant, it would have been a lawsuit. In fact a lot of things that happen to Letty seem to be lawsuit worthy unless she had consented to them beforehand.

Letty's interviews are always longest, at least it seems to me. Letty also occasionally shares with the other fish that she was given things to talk about by the producers, but not what. Some people said that Letty bringing up the "Josie guro" topic or the "Vance Frontier Psychiatrist/4chan music" topic might have been raised by TTS, but it seems more likely to me that she has topics given to her to use to bother or win over the other fish.

Damiel is for sure the plant, which leaves the open question of why the producer's plant targeted a particular contestant. The most common argument is "Sam hates her by nature" but that's a little anti-fun. Damiel even rounded up the other fish on purpose for a big meeting, specifically to tell the other fish to come at Letty. He makes his exit - his exit as a plant - after threating to strangle Letty and throwing her clothes out. Which is hard to believe he would do to anyone if the contest was meant to be even vaguely impartial towards her.

Ever since Sylvia was eliminated Vance seemed uncharacteristically attached to Josie and aggressive towards Letty, I was convinced he was 1) buying the popularity contest meta and fearing her fans or 2) aggressively bucking Sam's gaslight but I'm thinking more now that 3) he understood Letty was playing for the house and was trying to force a way for himself and Josie to defeat the house. 3 would be stupid of him, but at least it explains why he started to become uncharacteristically single-minded about keeping Josie in the game even though Josie was his strongest opponent. Even outside of the "ignore Letty" strategy he was doing he developed a very personal "stance" about disliking Letty. In his final moments, when Sam said that Vance would have had to do something "out-of-the-box" to save himself like interrupt Letty's interview, a TTS came to Vance in B2 relaying what Sam had just said. He hurried downstairs and seemed to open the basement door just as Letty opened it - bad timing, or did production send her up?

Every fish that was eliminated by procedure and most freeloaders have alogged Letty on social media since leaving the house, even Scott the trainer who basically never interacted with her. Sylvia even after making peace with Letty on her last night has been crazy hostile. Vance "it's just for the game" Latta has also been alogging. Jon is not a good actor and his single-minded attack on Letty during his return was either uncharacteristically focused of him or him failing to hide his instructions.
On Lance's last night he was trading notes with Letty on a scrap piece of paper, afterwards he folded it up and took it home. Production grilled Letty and Vance on what the paper said, Letty refused to say and Vance had no idea. Lance is still the only freeloader who never turned on Letty and has been nice about her on social media.

I think I had more reasons than this but I've been rambling for a while. I still don't have any idea how they would be intending to end the show based on this, but I hardly put it past Sam to rig the entire "game show" to fuck with everyone. It seems like The Cell 2: II has been designed to make Josie increasingly hostile towards Letty - she's started getting physical with Letty during challenges and being more confrontational over time after starting from no relationship at all. So maybe that's part of it. But I don't know.

 

[C. Cactus]

Don't worry about being a Sam Hyde fan. They're based. But the contestants didn't sign up for Hell House, they signed up for Fish Tank. That's how it was advertised. It just turned out that most of the contestants found out about the competition through Sam Hydes social media so they had an idea of what they were getting into. Simmons and Mauro were the only two who didn't know who Sam was beforehand and the other contestants just pretended to not know. Jon wasn't really a Sam fan but he had heard of him. Vance, Sylvia and Letty were hardcore fans and Dam worked with Sam before.

I think that's why Sam feels comfortable doing what he's been doing. In his mind they're super fans and they wouldn't turn against him. Sam feels untouchable because he's proven that he is. He keeps getting away with stuff that would ruin almost anyone else.

That said, he's taken his biggest risk ever with this competition and I know there's a huge list of Bergs and Steins lining up to take a crack at him in court. The right lawyer says the right thing to Letty or Josie and there might be a legitimate case against him.

If he's able to come out of Fishtank without any legal issues it would be incredible. There's a reason Rochefort has kept far away from this project. It's insane Sam is taking this risk at the same time the MDE trio finally reunited and while World Peace 2 is in production. There's so much to lose and he just doesn't give a fuck. Good for him I guess.

The first Sam Hyde bit I watched was the Ted Talk thing, which was funny, but it wasn't until I saw the bit where he sneaks into the art college in a dress and berates the shit out of the students for an hour that I really became a fan. Haven't seen much else of his stuff because I don't want to buy content from his unusable website, but it's clear that he's always pushing boundaries, for better or for worse. Ironically, he's very bitter that he got kicked off of Adult Swim and lost his chance to be mainstream, but not being mainstream is really what lets him do his best work without constraints.

 

[grapeshark77]

I actually thought the original World Peace worked because of the constraints of being on an actual network/having a real crew, schedule, etc. Stuff like blurring out the bit in the WP logo was stupid of course. I hope WP2 has a similar focus.

Sam ending it with the reveal that the entire thing was rigged nonsense would be funny and justify the "fake ending" - but of course they could never do it again. I am interested in the eventual fallout and hope this thread stays up - if the leaked contract was real it didn't quite cover all of the bases. References to extreme situations, sex, that sort of thing. They also said that contestants needed to be mentally healthy and strong and I don't know about the "healthy" part.

 

[CoolFool]

Idk if I can buy that Letty is a plant. If she is, she didn't start out that way. It happened only after the crew realized Damiel sucks, while Letty is tough to break and also provides content.

But even that feels like a stretch. I just can't see Sam hedging his bets on a 24 year old Ana-chan NEET, who stays on Discord all day, lives in Canada, and has revenge porn and an active lawsuit against a crazy ex. Like how would he even find her and vet her well enough to trust her enough to play such a critical role on a brand new massive project, all before the show started?

With Damiel it makes sense why he was the plant, since the crew already knew him, already worked with him before, and he lives near by.

 

[C. Cactus]

Yeah Letty is obviously not a plant, anyone who actually thinks that is a retard. I don't even think Damiel was a plant, just someone they found last minute because he knew someone in the crew.

Goldstriker brought Simon back on facetime to run a game of Simon Says, but Simon couldn't understand how the game worked so he hung up on him and is running it himself.