Defendant: Ethan Oliver Ralph - Ethan Ralph's Documented Legal Troubles & Other Court Docs

[Sumptinsfuckey]

Is there any chance the judge will find tgat both of them have violated the restraining order and sentence both to jail? Please say yes.

 

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Publicly admitting to wasting the court's time is an extremely wetbrained move but I'm sure Vickers will find a way to overplay his hand in bringing that to the judge's attention.

an interesting turn of phrase, "overplay his hand", and you may be right.
if nothing else, i think that it proves that the ragepig is reading his threads ...

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2 more weeks!

Another 2 weeks before Matthew Vickers shoots himself in the foot [ ... ]

2 more weeks!

what is this 'two weeks' thing? to the best of my knowledge, the trial is still scheduled for this friday, may 26th. the ragepig claims that he is being allowed to appear remotely, not that he was granted a continuance.

whatever mr. vickers and his attorney are doing, it involves the suspended sentence that expired in january.

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i remember mrs. vickers posting something about this awhile ago with regard to what would happen if the ragepig was found to have violated the dvro while he was still under suspension. iirc, it was something about any violation of the terms of the suspended sentence being subject to prosecution for up to a year after the expiration of the suspended sentence. i'll see if i can find the specific statute.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

if nothing else, i think that it proves that the ragepig is reading his threads ...

Hi Ethan.

Honestly, all this sabre-rattling on twitter is so tiresome. All it does is hurt both of your positions and then blueball me over the anticlimactic result. Never forget the Smuckle King had such an easy victory precisely because his opponent was a fat, vindictive motormouth.

 

[Fornicario]

Is there any chance the judge will find tgat both of them have violated the restraining order and sentence both to jail? Please say yes.

Allah, Cthulhu, God and Yahweh willing.

 

[AnOminous]

i remember mrs. vickers posting something about this awhile ago with regard to what would happen if the ragepig was found to have violated the dvro while he was still under suspension.

And Vickers was full of shit. It's the sort of thing that's possible but extremely unlikely. I like that he doesn't defend it on the grounds that he didn't do it, but instead is just gloating he got away with it.

I wonder if he learned the "quasi-criminal" phrase from one of my posts, because I'm pretty sure I at least once used it in reference to the civil contempt for which he potentially faced jail. He's actually again correct that quasi-criminal is not actually criminal, otherwise it wouldn't need the prefix qualifying it.

I believe no matter how dead to rights the Vickers retards get, they will inevitably fumble it in their own end zone and score a safety for Ralph.

 

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i remember mrs. vickers posting something about this awhile ago [ ... ] i'll see if i can find the specific statute.

Spoiler: mrs. vickers' post

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I believe no matter how dead to rights the Vickers retards get, they will inevitably fumble it in their own end zone and score a safety for Ralph.

i agree, but as you've previously stated, no matter who loses, we win.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Well? What happened?

 

[Fannyscum]

Just tell us what happened Vickers, no one wants to watch your dogshit youtube show:

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

Just tell us what happened Vickers, no one wants to watch your dogshit youtube show:
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Here I can probably 100% accurately guess what happened; Nothing. They appeared before the court, a lot of words were said, nothing happened, Vickers will bother the court some more and nothing will happen again next time they are scheduled. Repeat until one of them dies, the end.

 

[AnOminous]

Vickers=retard=nothing happened=complete utter fag. Change my mind.

 

[Fannyscum]

From Vickers' Twitter:


"AHH OBJECT YERONNAH"
"Denied"



The court order I requested and agreed to is unconstitutional:




Ralph only had this to say on Telegram (I didn't watch his show). No bouncing around or "GODS PLAN" this time:

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

From Vickers' Twitter:

Cross posting from CX thread. Vickers, last year admitting in DMs the court doesn't give a fuck about any of this, though he continues to waste the courts time for attention and grifting.

 

[Cucktry Roads]

what is this 'two weeks' thing? to the best of my knowledge, the trial is still scheduled for this friday, may 26th. the ragepig claims that he is being allowed to appear remotely, not that he was granted a continuance.

It's a meta joke related to QAnon. QAnon made a lot of hard dated predictions (Hillary being arrest, Huma being arrested, Theresa May stepping down a year sooner than she actually did, telling people to trust useless complacent boomers like Sessions, Barr, and Durham) and all the dates for those predictions would come to pass, and when people pointed this out, the QAnon people would say that you just needed to trust the plan a little longer, 2 more weeks to be specific. Now, right-wing people spam "2 more weeks" into any shitty 'insider knowledge' post or prediction statement that's obviously fake or not going to happen.

 

[Rodeo Roadrunner]

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Cross posting from CX thread. Vickers, last year admitting in DMs the court doesn't give a fuck about any of this, though he continues to waste the courts time for attention and grifting.

The court doesn't give a shit about a white trash relationship where the grievances are 'he said mean things about me on his internet show to 200 people'. What a shocker. I am so surprised the court doesn't care about this.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

Vickers believed that Ralph's closing statement (in his restraining order spat with Mr Vickers) was generated by ChatGPT, as it was lengthy, didn't sound like Ralph, had repeated sections, and in general was just bizarre.

Now, an interesting case has popped up where actual lawyers used ChatGPT, and it cited cases that didn't exist:
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/2...tations-to-non-existent-cases-thanks-chatgpt/
https://archive.ph/Vr3ys

The full fall-out of that case seems to be confirmed yet. As Ralph just interjected that 45 minutes of shit into his closing statement (in which you can say almost anything), and he's not a lawyer, probably means Ralph skates on the blathering. But could be interesting if Vickers' lawyer finds some shit made from whole cloth in there.

Even more exciting will be when Vickers manages an own goal out of it.

 

[AnOminous]

Now, an interesting case has popped up where actual lawyers used ChatGPT, and it cited cases that didn't exist:
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/2...tations-to-non-existent-cases-thanks-chatgpt/
https://archive.ph/Vr3ys

It is nearly impossible to express the unutterable stupidity it would take to do this. The very first thing anyone remotely competent does upon looking at a legal filing they have to analyze is look up the leading cases cited. If you know your locality, you know all the cases usually cited for basic stuff like motions for summary judgment or motions to dismiss for not stating a cause of action, and if they're citing some shit you've never even heard of that literally instantly jumps right out.

(Also incidentally Volokh is one of the greatest current living legal commentators, he more or less wrote D.C. v. Heller before the Supreme Court wrote it.)

 

[SargonF00t]

(Also incidentally Volokh is one of the greatest current living legal commentators, he more or less wrote D.C. v. Heller before the Supreme Court wrote it.)

But does he own and use a Balldo?

 

[Absolutego]

It is nearly impossible to express the unutterable stupidity it would take to do this. The very first thing anyone remotely competent does upon looking at a legal filing they have to analyze is look up the leading cases cited. If you know your locality, you know all the cases usually cited for basic stuff like motions for summary judgment or motions to dismiss for not stating a cause of action, and if they're citing some shit you've never even heard of that literally instantly jumps right out.

(Also incidentally Volokh is one of the greatest current living legal commentators, he more or less wrote D.C. v. Heller before the Supreme Court wrote it.)

Twitter's been replete with lawspergs freaking out over how AI is going to replace the bulk of legal filings going forward, I can 100% see some dumb Boomer (article said the responsible attorney had 30 years practice experience) falling for the meme.

 

[AnOminous]

Twitter's been replete with lawspergs freaking out over how AI is going to replace the bulk of legal filings going forward, I can 100% see some dumb Boomer (article said the responsible attorney had 30 years practice experience) falling for the meme.

It's actually not entirely unlikely. So long as you made sure it actually cites legal cases that exist instead of just making shit up (which is how this happened), most firms have "brief banks" where they have a couple hundred briefs on typical situations and just adapt them to fit the current fact pattern of the case.

Law school has a very simple (and frankly dumb) writing style called IRAC, which is basically Issue, Rule, Analysis, Conclusion, where the Conclusion is always one that agrees with your client. The Issue is the specific issue in the case, the Rule is usually a commonly cited case (that everyone knows), the Analysis is making that rule agree with your argument, and the Conclusion is "well obviously my guy wins."

It's somewhat unfathomable that a guy who hasn't entered senility would file something where the filing cites cases that don't even exist.

I have to assume this retard didn't even read the shit he filed, because whenever I looked at a filing, I would literally go get the physical copies of the books they were in and just keep them around as long as I had to deal with it. The absolute first thing I would notice is "what the fuck this case doesn't even exist?"

It's absolute insanity to do something like this. You'd have to be mentally retarded.

 

[General Insomnia]

It's absolute insanity to do something like this. You'd have to be mentally retarded.

I believe that if ChatGPT and other similar programs aren't salted with obvious tell tale signs of AI creation and bad data, they should be on purpose. We can't afford to have this kind of AI fuckery this early in it's maturation or maybe ever.