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You still think Wagner are not glowies?
Good, Armenians are just a different kind of kikes...
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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You still think Wagner are not glowies?
Stasi
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Anyone who thinks Wagner isn't under the direct control of the MoD is extremely slow in the head. I'll leave others to speculate about the purpose of his antics but Prigozhin has zero influence militarily or politically.
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I was assuming that the term "Glowie" would refer to certain groups that would certainly not be loyal to the Russian government and such, but I see what you mean.
Would that mean groups like the Pinkertons would be glowies?
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The problem that concerns me is Russia being constantly taunted into accelerating the conflict with nukes. I am repeatedly impressed at their restraint, but that's probably only lasting because Nato hasn't officially said they are sending in troops and because the krain is getting it's ass kicked, last I heard they lost 80% of their original forces.
Kiev just got hit, they've lost power and it seems like all their AA got blown up. Patriot missile battery's are doing jack and shit. Im starting to think the story about one of them intercepting a hypersonic missile was a lie.
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1664440948959633411 I heard Rayon or who ever the hell makes these things had their stock tank. lol
Russia wont stop until the Ukraine government is dead. They will bleed them dry until there is nothing left and NATO is foolish if they think intimidation can work.
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1664291157780643842
Also word is NATO is trying some aggressive random shit in Transnistria? Their aggressiveness is not encouraging Russia to back down, far from it. Im told that if things get much worse the Russians will have to use nukes to DEESCLATE the situation. Because the attitude that they cant or wont use nukes is going to embolden Nato into doing something absolutely retarded.
Kiev just got hit, they've lost power and it seems like all their AA got blown up. Patriot missile battery's are doing jack and shit. Im starting to think the story about one of them intercepting a hypersonic missile was a lie.
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1664440948959633411 I heard Rayon or who ever the hell makes these things had their stock tank. lol
Russia wont stop until the Ukraine government is dead. They will bleed them dry until there is nothing left and NATO is foolish if they think intimidation can work.
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1664291157780643842
Also word is NATO is trying some aggressive random shit in Transnistria? Their aggressiveness is not encouraging Russia to back down, far from it. Im told that if things get much worse the Russians will have to use nukes to DEESCLATE the situation. Because the attitude that they cant or wont use nukes is going to embolden Nato into doing something absolutely retarded.
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Raytheon and Lockheed Martin makes the Patriot system and ammo it uses. They can only manufacture a few hundred rounds of the ammo per year so considering that one wild salvo Ukraine shot off in 45 seconds a few weeks ago without hitting anything and being destroyed itself was like 10% of annual production both of those stocks should be skyrocketing.
A modern Patriot battery costs over a billion US dollars and the munitions run a few million for each shot. The missiles they're trying to shoot down cost 1/100th of that and are mass-produced by the thousands.
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How good is the iron dome system in comparison? I don't expect them to have time to pull it off in Ukraine im just curious.
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I've read the Iron Dome system is far superior but know little about it. I don't expect they'd tell the truth even if it were shit too though so who knows. Hamas isn't exactly firing Kinzals at Israel either (more like hand grenades out of Toyota-mounted potato guns) so success for it is a pretty low bar. The Patriot is 1980's technology (40 years old) and I think the Iron Dome is much more modern.
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Landing ship "Yuri Olefirenko" was sunk by a night strike in the port of Odessa on May 29, 2023
As a result of a night strike on military facilities in the port of Odessa, the medium landing ship "Yuriy Olefirenko" of the Ukrainian Navy was destroyed. There are significant losses among the ship's crew. - said the military commander of the VGTRK Andrei Rudenko, citing a Ukrainian source.
Number of ships in the Naval Forces of Ukraine: 0.
Since the ship was built by the USSR 50 years ago, Ukraine must be grateful for this successful decommunization.
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The nothingburger Belgorod/Kursk invasions: no one is biting but larpers gonna larp, especially kosher larpers who pose as jew or nazi, whichever pays off at any given time.
Fake : After the shelling of Shebekino, Belgorod region, a shell hit a warehouse near a grocery store in a residential area, Ukrainian Telegram channels write and attach a video.
True : The video shown shows another war crime of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - an attack on the Petrovsky district of Donetsk on May 14, 2023.
The information and psychological attack of the Ukrainian CIPSO continues. Panic is deliberately dispersed, propagandists use all means. Passing off archival videos as new is one of the most common tools used by Ukrainian propagandists.
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Kursk Region Governor Roman Starovoit:
Several Ukrainian drones were shot down by air defense systems near Kursk tonight.
linkRussian AD in Kursk hits targets from Ukraine:
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I just find it funny every time Ukraine puts out a press release, they always say they have intercepted every missile launched by Russia with the exception of 1.
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that 1 must be a doozy then, or the Mother of All Cluster Bombs.
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Stocks only go up when you can actually ramp up dwindling production. We literally cannot replace the shit we've sent to Ukraine for decades because all of our production state-side is gone, we're having supply chain issues and it is utterly impossible to re-start production.
Most of our 'complex' equipment is built by one factory in 30 different states and then shipped to one other factory in another state to put it together, because that's the only way these systems get approved. Through massive amounts of pork. And largely, these systems get sold to 'allies'. The problem is that there's no where for production to go. Even if you use 10% of your yearly ammo budget, guess what, the ammo you're producing right now is already bought and paid for, which a lot of people don't understand either. A lot of the ammo we're making is already sold and has already long been sold. So your stock is going to go down, because you can't sell any new ammo because you don't have the supply chain and production for it. We're actually running OUT of weapons to send, when we see money earmarked for Ukraine its basically 'we promise to prioritize production and distribution to Ukraine over ourselves and other allies, IOU'. This is why stocks don't go up. If you can't ramp up production and you just keep losing stock and getting handed IOUs by your biggest customer and you have no choice to take them with a shit eating grin...well, your stock price isn't fucking climbing.
Unlike Russia and China (especially China), they don't have off-shored production. People laugh at the 'outdated' Soviet tech, but that tech is in constant production to excess. We're BEHIND. We already owe allies orders, and we can't displace them (we can, but guess who they'll go to buy different systems. That's right, Russia and China).
Its great we have these super duper advanced systems and ammo, but we cannot reliably produce them in any meaningful numbers. A dumb, WWI artillery shell will kill and disable a lot of things. Especially 1,000 of them, even inaccurate. And what's worse, they're cheap, quick to produce and basically endless. That's what you're facing.
Also just look at the 'wunderwaffen' HIMARS. We've got 1 factory making them, and HIMARS were going to be shut down. We're ramping them up now. In the US, have fun for ten years. We're basically sacrificing future fighting capabilities for a supply chain that is strained to the brink, manufacturing infrastructure that doesn't exist and probably will never exist, and a China now probably building massive amounts of ammo factories.
What Ukraine has done for military readiness is absolutely shocking. Also its killed nearly fucking 10 members of the CIA in a year, like Holy Shit, Ukraine is fucking incompetent. This is what happens when you deal with a major regional power that has artillery, electronic warfare, and intelligence apparatus and air power. The US has not faced this, and the fact that Russia has withered an entirety first world military alliance including the US and Britain, as well economic warfare is a testament to their resilience.
The West has clearly fucked up, expected Russia to fall and carve up the pieces to jerk each other off and had no plan to further this other than WWIII. The West has acted recklessly, endangered world peace daily and is pushing dangerously close to nuclear war to hide its own failure.
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Reminds me of the old risk assessment argument about Russian roulette - what happens if I give you a gun, and tell you that you'll get $10,000,000 each time you pull the trigger? Eight chambers, one bullet, I'd pull the trigger once. But I'd stop there. But what if you don't know how many chambers there are? Eventually, you get comfortable pulling it over and over again as nothing happens each time. Until it does, then you lose everything. That's basically where we're at - an intellectually bankrupt foreign policy run by retards, girlbosses (but I repeat myself), and nepotism cases has us holding a gun to the world's head and clicking away, crowing each time nothing happens about how much we're winning.
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I never thought of it that way. Ukraine seems fucking awesome now.
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But didn't a wise ukroposter say the US could give 100.000 Himars to Hoholistan?
Biden will cast "Himarus appearus" and wooom there they are, it is like harry potter- Reddit, I mean the Ukro-Mutt incest thread.
Biden will cast "Himarus appearus" and wooom there they are, it is like harry potter- Reddit, I mean the Ukro-Mutt incest thread.
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Are we totally sure that Zelensky isn't a Russian Double-agent?
Draining the western military and economy while begging for money that he could be funnelling to Russia, all while increasing the Russian Sphere of Influence. The bonus is that this is a real-time wargames test of what the West/US/NATO have as a force?
Or maybe he's a chink agent, designed to weaken the US/NATO so that chinkville can invade Taiwan?
Draining the western military and economy while begging for money that he could be funnelling to Russia, all while increasing the Russian Sphere of Influence. The bonus is that this is a real-time wargames test of what the West/US/NATO have as a force?
Or maybe he's a chink agent, designed to weaken the US/NATO so that chinkville can invade Taiwan?
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I would like to point out the manufacturing contract parallels to Boeing and its max, for example. When producing airplanes the contracts are sold months and years in advanced, but that works for airline companies because they have schedules planned for months and years in advanced, and timing the delivery date of the planes to arrive when they are needed. When the Boeing Max was delayed (for reasons I won't delve into on this thread), it caused massive delays in the delivery dates of those planes, causing massive cancellations of flights and forcing the airlines to keep old planes longer. But barring that exception, the long lead times work.
That was how Afghanistan worked. The US military could afford long lead times for weapons because they were comfortable projecting their needs months and years down the road. Actually ending the war would've been costly because they had paid for months and years of ammunition and weapons still to be delivered. A smart nation would've stockpiled those weapons and stopped ordering more, but not a nation who makes its military decisions based on kickbacks and churn from weapon manufacturing. Especially when the planned slow wind down of military operations (that may have been intended to wind up again) suddenly become a emergency stop because some random senile dumbass decides to abandon the best defended evacuation staging area to achieve a political timing goal.
Now we need a war in a hurry, and we have something we can poke in northern Europe. Bingo bongo, we got a war. Except this is a war that is personal for a country with a military close in level to our own, but with a more streamlined and simple supply chain they can massively scale up. And they know it. They definitely know it. They can afford to make the war take as long as it needs for NATO to burn through its supply as they know that the US supply chain can't keep up, as for every Thousand bullets they make, the US can only make one, but their bullets, no matter how fancy and technologically advanced, is only worth ten of Russia's bullets at most.
That was how Afghanistan worked. The US military could afford long lead times for weapons because they were comfortable projecting their needs months and years down the road. Actually ending the war would've been costly because they had paid for months and years of ammunition and weapons still to be delivered. A smart nation would've stockpiled those weapons and stopped ordering more, but not a nation who makes its military decisions based on kickbacks and churn from weapon manufacturing. Especially when the planned slow wind down of military operations (that may have been intended to wind up again) suddenly become a emergency stop because some random senile dumbass decides to abandon the best defended evacuation staging area to achieve a political timing goal.
Now we need a war in a hurry, and we have something we can poke in northern Europe. Bingo bongo, we got a war. Except this is a war that is personal for a country with a military close in level to our own, but with a more streamlined and simple supply chain they can massively scale up. And they know it. They definitely know it. They can afford to make the war take as long as it needs for NATO to burn through its supply as they know that the US supply chain can't keep up, as for every Thousand bullets they make, the US can only make one, but their bullets, no matter how fancy and technologically advanced, is only worth ten of Russia's bullets at most.
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Maybe this war dragging on for years isn't such a bad thing after all.
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