The Caroline Farrow, Adrian Harrop, and Anthony George Halliday / Stephanie Hayden Megathread

[DumbDude43]

I've never understood the European attitude that trusts Daddy Government to know best.

it's cope because they don't have, never had, and never will have a choice about it.
americans have had several hundred years of a political system that allowed for genuine liberty because that's what the people who ran the american revolution put in place. no country in europe has ever had something similar, most of our countries political history consists mainly of aristocracy and monarchy for over a thousand years, followed by 20th century violent totalitarianism, and then 21st century globohomo soft totalitarianism.

 

[demicolon]

Spoiler: I certainly hope you have an Internet loicense, Ms. Farrow!

 

[Schwarzwald]

Genuinely of the belief that Ms. Farrow is a great deal more deserving of an asylum claim to the US than the vast majority of "refugees".

While the US has its problems, the First Amendment is the greatest gift the Founders and God bestowed upon us. The UK is a totalitarian state.

 

[DumbDude43]

I disagree. I've written about this before, but I firmly hold the belief that Britannia, both as a culture and a nation, has been cucked on a fundamental level since their near decimation during WW2. The cultural sense of British pride and might was destroyed when Hitler overran them, and nearly succeeded, until they went hats in hand to the US and the remaining French resistance begging for help. Chamberlain nearly let Hitler do it too, in the name of appeasement. Churchill was the last great PM, in my opinion, with each one after a slow and steady slog towards subservience and mediocrity, and it seems on a much accelerated push since Thatcher. It's no coincidence that the British Empire that was made through hundreds of years of effort; was destroyed in rapid order post 1950. And now you have 3rd world shitholes throughout England, and street-shitters as London mayor and the British PM.

the timeframe you identify for the start of the decline is correct, but the circumstances are backwards.
what killed the british empire was its decision to enter both world wars as it did. what was the effect of those wars on britain? the lost lives, the destruction, the economic damage, the loss of political power over the overseas territories, it all added up to the point where the formerly greatest empire on the planet could no longer hold on to its posessions, it crumbled and dissolved.
and for what? all to spite the germans? today the british people are being destroyed and humiliated exactly like the germans they "won" against, and by the exact same perpetrators as well. truly a great success and victory for britain, great job churchill.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta in part because he wanted to make a uniquely British comic. Fittingly, that was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this under the Featured Content.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I've never understood the European attitude that trusts Daddy Government to know best.

Late, but tl;dr it's because the idea of individualism, rights, and freedoms as Americans know them is a very new concept that the rest of the world, let alone Europe, has just never had.

They've always lived under the rule of someone else. There's always been a monarchy/upper-class/warlord telling you what to do, and snitches, and envious cowards who will rat on you for "disrupting social harmony" for trying to do otherwise, so the idea of there just not being that, and being able to make your decisions, and think for yourself free of consequence is practically an alien concept to them. They just can't comprehend it.

 

[trannyfucker]

The statement as is includes too many things, and the public support for abortion is (alas) there. The crowdfunder should focus on this one thing only and no funds used for anything else. Putting abortion and general anti gay stuff in allows them to paint you into a corner. See that screenshot above. It may or may not be a real person but it’s a warning: it says to the herd ‘this person has too many incorrect opinions and if I donate I will be unpersoned.’

Yeah.

And I will add that I seem to remember that Ma Farrow got in trouble about some kind of tard baby protest. There was a baby who was gonna die of tard. And they wanted to switch off the tard-support machine. And Ma Farrow and friends were shrieking about this.

Anyway the courts got involved and there was some kind of injunction about, you know, not being a bunch of harpies outside an actual hospital with sick babies inside, which most people would agree with is a bad thing to have outside a hospital. I think most people agree that women should be able to get their foetus coat-hangered without having protestors at that either.

So Ma Farrow is acting in a context of the UK which has blasphemy laws to protect Muslims' feelings, so they don't kill us, blasphemy laws to protect fags and trannies from being called fags and trannies. And while you are allowed to generally think that fags and trannies are disgusting and that Muslims are terrorists, if you want to publicly express such views in the manner of a campaigner, then you need to be super-super smart and full of guile, which she is not.

IDR know what has happened, obviously Tony is a disgusting child molester, but he's operating in the context of laws designed to stop people from preaching that fags will burn in hell, that people going for abortions will burn in hell, and so on. And Ma Farrow is a member of the sort of group (CitizenGo) that is likely to get you banned from even entering the UK https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/b...ns-in-kenya-about-reproductive-rights-health/ (She's British so this doesn't apply.)

Obviously I'm not supporting Tony, I'm just saying there's a good chance she's made a large number of missteps on the way to doing this. People who are in her position don't make one bad decision that gets them subject to insane restrictions by faggot-loving judges, they make a whole long series of them.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

to everyone suggesting she just pack up and move to the US, she does have family and friends and her whole social network there, lol. this situation is pretty insane but honestly, being banned from posting on the internet might be a bit of a bamboozle on the part of the British government. they're obviously trying to make her life arbitrarily difficult due to her public political views but getting off social media is actually blessed. it also doesn't prevent her from speaking physically or others from posting on her behalf, so it's a poor obstacle to advocating for her case or ideas. fuck the trannies and their government jannies, touch that grass and enjoy your family

 

[Happy Little War Painter]

I like how the police told her "yea this is horribly restrictive and probably illegal, but we're doing it anyway". Maddening. Praying for my nigga.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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The case has been adjourned to allow the police time to consider evidence submitted by Farrow's legal team. It could be the court's way of allowing the constabulary to withdraw while saving face. Whatever the case, until the matter is resolved the threat made against Farrow by the police remains.

You gotta love how the justice system works. Its like this in the USA too when the government wants to dunk on you. "We have this order, you have 48 hours to appeal or comply". Always filed at like, 3 in the afternoon or some shit. So the next morning you scramble for a lawyer first thing at 8 AM and hope to god they get in front of a judge before he leaves to play golf at 2 in the afternoon. If you manage to get that far, well blessed be, we would not want to RUSH this now would we! 2 week stay so the State can formulate a response.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

I like how the police told her "yea this is horribly restrictive and probably illegal, but we're doing it anyway". Maddening. Praying for my nigga.

Margaret Thatcher using the 'Royal We' type shit

 

[FinnSven]

Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta in part because he wanted to make a uniquely British comic. Fittingly, that was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this under the Featured Content.

Benny Hill wearing a swastika armband was how he first pictured it.

which has blasphemy laws to protect Muslims' feelings, so they don't kill us

To be completely frank, I have always been disappointed with how they care so much about the fee fees of fucking muslims, when back in the "Good Old Days", Mick bashing, potato paddy jokes, and other hilarious stuff about bogtrotters was thrown around willy nilly, and those fuckers stood a pretty reasonable chance of causing widespread death and destabilization of the UK economy.
They were organized, heavily armed, capable of complex explosive devices and even made a point of warning so the authorities could evacuate a target, just to show that they could do these things.
The best the current crop of ISIS wannabes can do is stab a solider in the back when he is on leave, blow themselves up, and crash cars onto pavements.

Me and my lady, a person of the Faith, have hilarious arguments over whether the RA or ISIS are the best terrorists, but I digress.

The other massively fucked up thing in relation to this Ma Farrow situation is that the worst they did to Gerry Adams was overdub his voice. Sure they changed the rules on how to become an MP after Bobby Sands, but he still probably had more access to the internet in the fucking Maze in the 70s than Ma Farrow does now.

I left that island of Evil because I thought it was starting to turn into a creepy police state and shifting to a right wing dystopia, and then when Brexit rolled around, I seemingly was being proven right.

This is a new development though, some people feared that the Union Jack would end up draped around an NF stormtrooper, now it seems that the stormtroopers are draped with Pride Flags.

 

[ScooterL]

Whatever the case, until the matter is resolved the threat made against Farrow by the police remains.

Makes you wonder how many people are living under this kind of order today, that we never hear about.

 

[doodoocaca]

...if you want to publicly express such views in the manner of a campaigner, then you need to be super-super smart and full of guile, which she is not.

I was under the impression that while it might behoove someone to lock their doors the blame still rested on the thief.

 

[vomitusdeux]

This honestly needs to make it to the main stream news. This is dangerously authoritarian and people deserve to know how far this is going now.

 

[glad vlad]

This is terrible. I really feel for her and I really feel for the people of Bong. It's like they're a fundamentally pro-social, high-trust people who evolved to live in harmony on a crowded island and for several decades their governments have taking brutal advantage of these traits. It really upsets me to hear about the grooming gangs, the massive influx of migrants, and the ritual public humiliation of anyone who questions the orthodoxy in even the mildest way.

Extremely blackpilling. The way normies don't give a shit about things like this really gets a shitposter down.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

Yes I am willing to bet that even in England they cannot cavity search you to ensure you're complying with a restraint order.

They've been strip searching children in schools. 14 and 15 year olds. Because they smell of weed. True story. We are universally fucked.

 

[demicolon]

and for what? all to spite the germans?

Yes. Their biggest gripe with the III Reich was that they might be a contender to the British Empire. They feared that, while ignoring the rising imperial behemoth that was United States at the time, who got to act as tard wrangler for Europe after dust settled and made sure everyone owed them forever.

Kinda like Mesoamerican tribes teaming up with Cortez just to get back at Aztecs.

 

[The Anarki Main]

Can she GFM?

Despite the universal condemnation of the UK on here normies are still hugely anti-pedo, if that side of this affair could be pushed to the public she'd get plenty of cash support.

In recent years accusations of transphobia always seem to be taken more seriously while accusations of pedophilia get swept under the rug. The government doesn't care about stopping actual crime if they can pander to snowflakes with no social skills instead, who give them a good reputation for doing so, pushes their agenda further, and ultimately requires zero effort compared to actually hunting down a sexual predator and convicting them. People now also are vulnerable to appeal-to-emotion fallacy. If you insist that so and so is a danger to society because they "attack trans youth", in a largely progressive nation that prides itself on being LGBT friendly, that is going to get a lot more attention than "this guy molests children", because a lot of people believe that any small misstep in the special treatment of minorities is a grave danger to them. They see it as an opportunity to send a message to people they don't like who share opinions they don't like.

TLR; no I don't think that's going to work. Even if it did, I'm sure the UK police will find a way to twist the Tony situation back around to "think of the poor little children!!" and use it to invoke surveillance on Caroline.

Then the troons came in & essentially invaded the LGB, becoming LGBT. Later, due to a smaller retardation being joined a bigger evil, everyone else who's also retarded wanted to parade their mental illness & some probably dilated vexillographer made more flags. Hell, just look at the modern pride flag. The somewhat aesthetic rainbow flag (which there's actually a moment to take back), all sorts of retardation tacked on it, making it fugly to say the least.

The rainbow flag was a perfect design because it was easy to remember and extremely basic, and the color choices were very deliberate. Rainbow means every color on the spectrum, meaning it represents the differences we all have.

Tacking on a bunch of extra colors that don't fit the 6 primary and secondary colors of a basic rainbow completely undermines the point of the original flag.

 

[Trig.Point]

the timeframe you identify for the start of the decline is correct, but the circumstances are backwards.
what killed the british empire was its decision to enter both world wars as it did. what was the effect of those wars on britain? the lost lives, the destruction, the economic damage, the loss of political power over the overseas territories, it all added up to the point where the formerly greatest empire on the planet could no longer hold on to its posessions, it crumbled and dissolved.

What killed Britain was they entered WWI without conscription. It was 1916 before they started, and 1917 before those conscripts started entering the front lines. Also the vast majority of conscripts never even went into combat. So the war in its most bloody phase was fought by volunteers, the best of British and Irish society.