Arttheclown | What a bunch of preachy goddamn bullshit. Nobody knows what happens with life or what happens afterwards. |
MEPMEP | I was about to say. Im religious and think people who have sex with children should get the death penalty |
thedeugs | lol. cool. im not sure how im arrogant by saying people cant be trusted. |
Arttheclown | Anybody acting like they do is just an arrogant liar who's really scraping for the bottom of the barrel of their own personal life. |
thedeugs | and that people with power of others specifically should never be trusted |
DV8tion | You said religious people are the least trustable. Making you wrong. |
thedeugs | i definitely said probably the least trustable. |
thedeugs | but what ever |
Arttheclown | Trust no one. Don't believe it anybody. We're all a bunch of self-serving cunts. |
thedeugs | precisely |
DV8tion | Hey clown, because you ignore God doesn't mean you are immune to his rules. You get to choose good or ill. The consequences are all on you. |
Arttheclown | Everybody wants to rule the world  |
Arttheclown | I do not ignore God. I tell him when he's doing a terrible job |
thedeugs | i dont ignore God i ignore people who pretend to follow him. |
MEPMEP | But people can have belief in those things. It's their personal belief. |
DV8tion | Because you are oniscient right. |
Arttheclown | Because I am cut from his cloth |
DV8tion | Heresy is a thing, God sent his son in the flesh to earth that doesn't mean you are his equal. That's precisely how Satan ended up in the condition he is in. |
Arttheclown | I don't believe in your book. And you will not convince me that I shall |
Arttheclown | Nothing will make me believe. Nothing. I will live my life and I will find the truth. Or I will not |
DV8tion | Hey that'[s your right, don't act like you are anything other than opinionates monkey like the rest of us humans. |
thedeugs | i think bible is a good book to read and try to live by. but i also believe that people who wrote were all flawed and also had their own angles. |
Arttheclown | Believing in a book is foolish to me. If that helps you though. I don't demean it |
Arttheclown | I could believe in Harry Potter. Maybe that book is right. |
DV8tion | See that's you're human arrogance. God has to prove himself to YOU. Why? he can ignore you nd watch you burn in hell. Accept your insignifigance dweeb. |
Arttheclown | You're human arrogance is believing that I need to believe what you believe. |
Arttheclown | I can believe whatever I want |
DV8tion | No my job is only to tell you about your risk of hell. After that it's ALL ON YOU. |
MEPMEP | This is true |
Arttheclown | You will find me quite a tough sell. But I also do not shit on your own personal beliefs. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I'm stubborn!) |
DV8tion | You've been brainwashed by teachers and professors. Maybe not your fault maybe it is. I don't get to make the choice. |
Arttheclown | Lol. Quite the opposite. I've studied all the world's religions from Mesopotamian, Sumerian all the way to modern Christianity. None of them made sense to me |
Arttheclown | But I do want to shit on your beliefs. That's not what I'm doing. |
thedeugs | or alternatively the church has made a mockery of christianity and turned millions of people away from it.. |
Arttheclown | . I don't think there's a book that can tell humans what to do. I don't think words on a page work to make people change. |
Arttheclown | I don't think reading something makes a God damn difference. |
thedeugs | i think people find answers in all sorts of religious books… and i think for billions of people that brings them comfort |
Arttheclown | If those particular people need it maybe. I never did. All I have to do was look inward. |
Arttheclown | Pain. Loss Tragedy. Suffering. Those are the teachers. |
DV8tion | I'm so impressed, you "STUDIED" world religions. Moth theologians spend a lifetime learning one belief system. Yo, in your spare time debunked all them. Impressive. |
Arttheclown | Because I am cut from his cloth |
DV8tion | Heresy is a thing, God sent his son in the flesh to earth that doesn't mean you are his equal. That's precisely how Satan ended up in the condition he is in. |
Arttheclown | I don't believe in your book. And you will not convince me that I shall |
Arttheclown | Nothing will make me believe. Nothing. I will live my life and I will find the truth. Or I will not |
DV8tion | Hey that'[s your right, don't act like you are anything other than opinionates monkey like the rest of us humans. |
thedeugs | i think bible is a good book to read and try to live by. but i also believe that people who wrote were all flawed and also had their own angles. |
Arttheclown | Believing in a book is foolish to me. If that helps you though. I don't demean it |
Arttheclown | I could believe in Harry Potter. Maybe that book is right. |
DV8tion | See that's you're human arrogance. God has to prove himself to YOU. Why? he can ignore you nd watch you burn in hell. Accept your insignifigance dweeb. |
Arttheclown | You're human arrogance is believing that I need to believe what you believe. |
Arttheclown | I can believe whatever I want |
DV8tion | No my job is only to tell you about your risk of hell. After that it's ALL ON YOU. |
MEPMEP | This is true |
Arttheclown | You will find me quite a tough sell. But I also do not shit on your own personal beliefs. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I'm stubborn!) |
DV8tion | You've been brainwashed by teachers and professors. Maybe not your fault maybe it is. I don't get to make the choice. |
Arttheclown | Lol. Quite the opposite. I've studied all the world's religions from Mesopotamian, Sumerian all the way to modern Christianity. None of them made sense to me |
Arttheclown | But I do want to shit on your beliefs. That's not what I'm doing. |
thedeugs | or alternatively the church has made a mockery of christianity and turned millions of people away from it.. |
Arttheclown | . I don't think there's a book that can tell humans what to do. I don't think words on a page work to make people change. |
Arttheclown | I don't think reading something makes a God damn difference. |
thedeugs | i think people find answers in all sorts of religious books… and i think for billions of people that brings them comfort |
Arttheclown | If those particular people need it maybe. I never did. All I have to do was look inward. |
Arttheclown | Pain. Loss Tragedy. Suffering. Those are the teachers. |
DV8tion | I'm so impressed, you "STUDIED" world religions. Moth theologians spend a lifetime learning one belief system. Yo, in your spare time debunked all them. Impressive. |
thedeugs | my question for you is how do you know you’re right? seems like you’re the arrogant one |
DV8tion | I'm not being condescending you are. |
Arttheclown | It doesn't really matter does it?. There's no proof that your belief is right. There's no proof that mine isn't. |
DV8tion | God is under no obligation to prove shit to you. That's your major misunderstanding. |
thedeugs | lol. not sure how im being condescending but ok. its not my fault the modern church has spent the last 1000 years chasing people away from the faith. |
Arttheclown | I can see your very devout. But there's still no way to prove that you're right. |
DV8tion | Really when you insult an entire cultures basic belief system, that's not condescending? |
thedeugs | how am i insulting a belief system? |
DV8tion | You're missing the point |
Arttheclown | Personal belief systems are personal. They are yours. They're not mine. |
Arttheclown | Doesn't really matter. All you're trying to do is prove that your belief system is correct. All I'm trying to do is show that all of them could be correct or incorrect. |
DV8tion | Try speaking your beliefs in person in Qatar. They explain with fire or chainsaws. |
Arttheclown | Attempting to understand the afterlife Is arrogance. |
thedeugs | ok? i mean ive talked to afghanis about this stuff. ive even done ramadan. |
Arttheclown | Read your books all you want and believe in them. |
Arttheclown | Live your life long enough, And you may find something different. |
DV8tion | Nope, I am saying Christianity has proven itself time and again. Morality is built on millennia of experience. a single human lifetime is insignificant in comparison. |
Arttheclown | I'm not going to argue with you over this. Arguing over religion is fruitless. Find your own peace |
Arttheclown | Or find your own anger |
DV8tion | The lesson we learn from our ancestors is meant to keep the streets from flooding with our neighbors blood. If we disregard the lessons of history we revert to murderous "Might makes right" beliefs. |
Arttheclown | This sounds like a person who doesn't have a girlfriend or a wife. |
Arttheclown | Once you have a wife, You wouldn't think this way. |
thedeugs | its also been bastardized and retranslated a thousand times. the true meaning of the bible has in fact been lost. |
DV8tion | That's funny I've been married and divorced. My oldest has about the same arrogant attitude as you. |
Arttheclown | Ha. I'm sorry you think I'm arrogant. I view myself as well lived |
DV8tion | No it's a repeating cycle. we have good record of it. |
thedeugs | but also if people wanted to murder each other we would. and quite frankly we do. often times over belief systems |
Arttheclown | You do seem bitter. Hopeless even. Angry. |
thedeugs | you mean to tell me that every word from every language is translated? ancient hebrew didnt have the letter j. just saying |
DV8tion | That's idealism, which is a human falsehood.In the end we are human. That means we are pronee to violence like all predators. |
Arttheclown | Oh yes angry... I guess I'm going to have to double down on this.. |
DV8tion | Do you know how rediculous that sounds? The Armenian Genocide, erased by humans. Does that mean it didn't happen because it's inconvenient for NATO? |
Arttheclown | Find someone who loves you. It's that simple. Someone who sees your flaws, and your gifts. |
Arttheclown | I didn't believe that I could. I didn't believe that I deserved it. But I did. And you can too |
thedeugs | we saw the might makes right attitude from so called christians in 2003 when the decision to slaughter a million people was made. we saw an alleged christian go along with a genocide in yemen. |
DV8tion | Clown, the day you make me angry is the day snowballs don't melt in hell. Arrogance is thinking you have that much affect on anyone. |
Arttheclown | I like how you're trying to provoke me but you won't. What I said was true. |
DV8tion | Was that supposed to be a deep thought. |
Arttheclown | Yes it was. Sometimes when you're least expecting it, somebody walks into your life and breaks all the pieces of your shield into bits. |
thedeugs | a lot of things get erased by people. not sure what that has to do with anything? |
DV8tion | What you said is your perception of truth. you don't decide the truth, you only judge what you believe. You have evey right to believe whatever you want. Eve ate the apple. |
Arttheclown | Sure you can totally think that correctly Or maybe I've just watched enough people have the same exact experience. |