The dark side of the rainbow: Homosexuals and bisexuals have higher Dark Triad traits than heterosexuals - Fags are psychopaths confirmed

Abstract​

Research on the Dark Triad traits—psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and narcissism—reveals malevolent, transgressive, and self-centered aspects of personality. Little is known about the Dark Triad traits in individuals differing in sexual orientation, with some studies showing that non-heterosexual individuals have Dark Triad profiles resembling those of opposite-sex heterosexual individuals. In a cross-national sample (N = 4063; 1507 men, 2556 women; Mage = 24.78, SDage = 7.55; 90.58% heterosexual, 5.74% bisexual, 2.83% homosexual) collected online via student and snowball sampling, we found in sex-aggregated analyses that bisexuals and homosexuals were more Machiavellian than heterosexuals. Bisexuals were more psychopathic and narcissistic than heterosexuals. The only significant findings in within-sex comparisons showed that self-identified bisexual women scored higher on all Dark Triad traits than heterosexual women. The findings support the gender shift hypothesis of same-sex sexual attraction in bisexual women, but not in lesbians nor in men. The finding that bisexuals are the sexual orientation group with the most pronounced Dark Triad profiles is opposite to what would be predicted by the prosociality hypothesis of same-sex sexual attraction. The life history and minority stress implications of these findings are discussed as alternative hypotheses to the gender shift hypothesis.

Introduction​

Psychological and behavioral differences between the sexes have been studied scientifically for more than a century (Archer, 2019; Darwin, 1871; Woolley, 1910). As findings on sex differences have accumulated over time, the way in which non-heterosexual individuals may differ from heterosexuals on a range of psychobehavioral traits has received increasing attention (Allen & Robson, 2020; Luoto, 2021a; Zheng et al., 2011), as have the evolutionary–developmental mechanisms that create sex differences (Archer, 2019; Luoto & Varella, 2021) and sexual orientation differences (Luoto, 2020a; Luoto et al., 2019a, Luoto et al., 2019b; Rahman & Wilson, 2003) in such psychobehavioral traits.

Sexual differentiation of the mammalian brain constitutes an integral evolutionary–developmental process which causes a cascade of sexually differentiated outcomes in men and women, ranging from physiological, cognitive, and behavioral traits to different life outcomes, for instance, in health and in educational and professional trajectories (Archer, 2019; Luoto, 2020b; Luoto et al., 2019a, Luoto et al., 2019b; Luoto & Varella, 2021; Mauvais-Jarvis et al., 2020; McCarthy, 2020; Luoto et al., 2021). Developmental disturbances in the sexual differentiation of the brain may result in various kinds of non-heterosexual phenotypes, which show sex-atypicality across a range of biobehavioral traits (Luoto, 2021a; Luoto et al., 2019a, Luoto et al., 2019b; Rahman & Wilson, 2003; Swift-Gallant et al., 2019). One conceptualization of personality traits is that they are behavioral syndromes (e.g., complexes of correlated behaviors creating patterns) as opposed to internal traits, and as such, might also be subject to such differentiation (Woodley of Menie et al., 2021). Given that sexuality and sexual orientation are characterized by specific behaviors, and behaviors are related to personality traits, understanding how personality traits relate to various manifestations of sexuality seems warranted (Lippa, 2020; Luoto et al., 2019a; Luoto, 2021a).

One potential hypothesis for explaining the opposite-sex shift observed in non-heterosexual individuals' psychobehavioral and morphological traits is the gender shift hypothesis, which posits that homosexual and bisexual men are partially feminized and homosexual and bisexual women are partially masculinized on several psychobehavioral and morphological traits (Bailey et al., 2016; Luoto et al., 2019a; Luoto, 2021a). The gender shift hypothesis assumes that the effective sexuality phenotype (1) has been ancestrally calibrated to increase inclusive fitness but (2) developmental disturbances may occur in this sexually differentiated process, creating phenotypes that may diverge from sex-specific optima. Natural variation in neurodevelopmental processes may lead to sex-atypical behaviors and attitudes (e.g., sexual desire, sexual orientation, and personality) as in the case of non-heterosexual men and women. This hypothesis has received broad though not fully clear support across several studies (Abé et al., 2021; Lippa, 2020; Luoto, 2020a; Luoto et al., 2019a; Luoto, 2021a; Rahman & Wilson, 2003; Schmitt, 2006). Moreover, bisexual men and women tend to show gender nonconformity and cross-sex neuroanatomical changes which place them between heterosexual and homosexual participants (Abé et al., 2021; Rieger et al., 2020). On other psychobehavioral traits, such as neuroticism, extraversion, and agreeableness, bisexual women tend to be more masculine than heterosexual women; with traits such as sex drive, sociosexuality, conscientiousness, and openness to experience, bisexual women tend to be even more masculine than lesbian women (Luoto & Rantala, in press). Bisexual men had higher sex drive, sociosexuality, openness to experience, and neuroticism and lower conscientiousness than heterosexual men (Lippa, 2020; Schmitt, 2006), only partially supporting the gender shift hypothesis. In this article, we sought to test the gender shift hypothesis using the Dark Triad traits in men and women differing in (self-reported) sexual orientation (i.e., heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual).

The Dark Triad traits (i.e., narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) are “darker” sides of personality; yet despite being sometimes viewed as harmful for individuals and groups, they can in fact be adaptive (Furnham et al., 2013; Koehn et al., 2019). Narcissistic people have a sense of grandiosity, egotism, and self-orientation; Machiavellian individuals are often manipulative and exploitative, with a ruthless lack of morality; and psychopathic people engage in antisocial behavior, are impulsive, and lack empathy and remorse. The traits may enable fast life history strategies that allow people to pursue selfish social and sexual agendas that impose costs on those around them (e.g., Jonason et al., 2017). Life history theory suggests that organisms have a finite amount of resources to solve the adaptive problems of mating and surviving, and the way organisms navigate such resource-allocation decisions is by trading off one goal for another. Those who prioritize survival over mating are r-selected or fast life history strategists whereas those who prioritize mating over survival and/or development are K-selected or slow life history strategists. Fast, as opposed to slow, life history strategies at the species level translate to faster maturation, more mortality, and less investment in offspring (e.g., elephants are slow; mice are fast). At the within-species level (cf. Woodley of Menie et al., 2021), fast life history traits can include promiscuity, risk-taking, aggression, and limited empathy, all of which are heightened in those characterized (with some contextual modification at times) by the Dark Triad traits (Jonason et al., 2017; Koehn et al., 2019; Luoto et al., 2019a).

The Dark Triad traits comprise an interesting test case for analyzing psychological differences across the sexual orientation spectrum because of their heritability and the reported sex differences in the traits. The Dark Triad traits reveal small (Cohen's d ≈ 0.20) to large (d ≈ 0.70) sex differences cross-nationally (Jonason et al., 2013; Jonason, Żemojtel-Piotrowska, et al., 2020). Social role (e.g., social learning, structural powerlessness) and evolutionary (e.g., sexual selection, parental investment, and life history theory) models provide explanations for these sex differences (e.g., Archer, 2019; Luoto et al., 2019a). For instance, researchers relying on the former model might suggest that women may be punished more for these traits; therefore, women suppress their “bad” behaviors more than men do. Alternatively, ancestral men may have reaped reproductive fitness benefits for being “bad”, leading to differences in the sexes that persist to this day. For instance, men may accrue more sex partners while women may be more likely to suffer from reproductive health problems for having more pronounced Dark Triad traits and associated behaviors (Jonason et al., 2009; Jonason & Lavertu, 2017). While evolutionary models of sex differences writ large (Archer, 2019; Luoto & Varella, 2021) and in the Dark Triad traits (Jonason, Żemojtel-Piotrowska, et al., 2020) might be superior in accounting for these differences than social constructionist accounts (Luoto et al., 2019a), the two should not be seen as completely in conflict given that they are concerned with proximate (e.g., how) and ultimate (e.g., why) questions. For instance, the adaptive utility of pursuing particular life history strategies describes effects originating both in the past and the current environments, whereas sex-specific norms describe how people learn and calibrate their behaviors to fit their current social contexts. That is, instead of a blank slate hypothesis (i.e., environmental determinism), as often relied on by social constructivists, an evolutionary account can merge ancestrally derived predispositions and biases with current conditions and needs. Evolutionary approaches are therefore inherently interactionist, not genetically deterministic, focusing as they do on the proximate (neuro)developmental and other biopsychosocial mechanisms underlying sex differences and sexual orientation differences (Luoto et al., 2019a; Luoto & Varella, 2021).

Despite the popularity of research on the Dark Triad traits in the context of sex differences and sexual behavior, few studies have examined whether there are differences in the Dark Triad traits between people of different sexual orientations. This may be related to limited access to enough non-heterosexual individuals in convenience samples and a lack of hypotheses about why there might be any sexual orientation differences. We acknowledge the third possibility that researchers may have avoided asking this question because of fears of the results being misinterpreted as portraying non-heterosexuals in a negative light. Two studies (we know of) on sexual orientation differences in Dark Triad traits have found that bisexual women scored higher on the Dark Triad traits than heterosexual women or lesbians (Semenyna et al., 2018; Stolarski et al., 2017). These findings conform to a broader pattern of psychological masculinization in non-heterosexual women across a variety of personality measures (Luoto et al., 2019a, Luoto et al., 2019b; Luoto, 2021a). Besides these results in women, we are unaware of any studies that have analyzed the Dark Triad traits across the sexual orientation spectrum (i.e., including bisexual men, and ideally also “mostly heterosexual” individuals). In one study, homosexual men scored lower on Machiavellianism (d = 0.11), narcissism (d = 0.17), and psychopathy (d = 0.42) relative to heterosexual men (Barelds et al., 2017). In women, the only difference of note was the slightly higher psychopathy scores in homosexual women (d = 0.15) relative to heterosexual women (Barelds et al., 2017).1 Overall, these results support the gender shift hypothesis of homosexuality.

In this study, we sought to test the gender shift hypothesis of homosexuality in a cross-national sample which, unlike previous studies, also included bisexual males. Based on prior theoretical and empirical work (Lippa, 2020; Luoto, 2020a; Luoto et al., 2019a), we predicted that non-heterosexual women would score higher (more male-typical) on the Dark Triad traits than heterosexual women. We extended the gender shift hypothesis (Luoto, 2020a; Luoto, 2021a) to men and predicted that non-heterosexual men would score lower (more female-typical) on the Dark Triad traits relative to heterosexual men. In addition, we provide a novel test of a new and potentially problematic (Luoto, 2020a) suggestion—which appears to originate from work on Bonobos (Pan paniscus)—suggesting homosexuality may have evolved as part of increased prosociality (Barron & Hare, 2020).

Section snippets​

Participants and procedures​

In 2014, an international team of researchers collected self-report data2 from 42 countries online in English or a local language (e.g., French) from 4063 people (2556 female, 1507 male) who received course credit or were volunteers, aged 18 to 69 years old (M = 24.78, SD = 7.55).3

Results​

We refrained from testing a full ANOVA model because of sample size concerns and instead relied on planned comparisons with t-tests and one-way ANOVAs with Scheffe's post-hoc tests, which adjust significance levels to account for multiple comparisons. In Table 1 we summarize F-tests to understand the correlations between sexual orientation and the Dark Triad traits overall (Fig. 1). In sex-aggregated analyses, we found that bisexuals (p = .008, d = 0.21) and homosexuals (p = .007, d = 0.29)

Discussion​

Overall, we revealed that rates of the Dark Triad traits differed in people who had different sexual orientations, a topic that has rarely been considered in prior research. Our findings suggest that including non-heterosexual men and women in aggregated sex difference analyses may suppress sex differences in traits because non-heterosexual individuals—women in particular—have gender-atypical scores on several of these measures. Conducting analyses with all sexual orientations included may

Limitations and conclusions​

The limitations of this study include the relatively small samples of non-heterosexual participants, which attenuated our ability to reliably detect smaller sexual orientation differences. Nevertheless, the proportions of bisexuals and homosexuals in our sample are relatively high given the usually reported prevalence of bisexuality and homosexuality, which indicate that a total of approximately 3.5% of U.S. adults identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Bailey et al., 2016). The relatively

Credit authorship contribution statement​

JONASON primarily served as the data manager and analyst, secondarily he authored the Results, and tertiarily served as an author whereas LUOTO was the primary author of the Introduction/Discussion and worked secondarily on analyses.

Acknowledgements​

The first author was partially funded by the Polish National Agency for Academic Exchange (PPN/ULM/2019/1/00019/U/00001) and a grant from the National Science Centre of Poland (2019/35/B/HS6/00682).



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The reason I'm not calling it a mental illness is because it doesn't generally have the extent of negative impacts on a person's life that a mental illness can
It turns one into an evolutionary dead end. Being sterile has the exact same impact on someone's life as being gay is, but we recognize it as an illness.

The difference is being sterile doesn't have a huge correlation (and arguably causation if we take into account how sex drives for men and women differ) with STD spread and infidelity.

Appart from the damage it does to the individual your conclusion also requires us to ignore the damage it does to society, even ignoring the illnesses, the promotion of heidonism and decadence and lack of children to take over and continue society.
 
It was only removed as a disorder from the DSM in 1973. It was replaced with ‘sexual orientation disturbance’ and that was only removed in the early 80s.
There is significant lobbying going on to remove several fetish based diagnoses right now.
I find the dark triad interesting. When I’ve taken these tests I score very high on Machiavellianism but very low on psychopathy and narcissistic traits. I suspect a lot of the Machiavellianism measures are really just linked to pattern recognition
Most machiavellian traits in those tests may as well be "How naive are you?"

The issue isn't how low you score on machiavellian traits, but how high you score on narcissism and sociopathy.

I'd argue scoring low on machiavellian would actually be problematic because it indicates lack of self preservation and lack of understanding how the world works.

A person scoring high on sociopathy and narcissism is a considerably bigger menance to society than someone scoring high on machiavellianism, which is what you need to look out for.
 
The reason I'm not calling it a mental illness is because it doesn't generally have the extent of negative impacts on a person's life that a mental illness can (gays are more likely to have issues, but it doesn't necessarily mean all gays are going to have other problems just because they're gay, which can't be said of full blown mental illness). Thus why I call it an abnormality rather than a full blown illness.
Gays have a shortened lifespan. By a large amount: 20-30 years. The mean age of death in males they looked at was under fifty. (Reference is Does homosexual activity shorten life? P Cameron et al. Psychol Rep. 1998 Dec.) to put that in context, T2 diabetes takes around ten years off on average. In order to be propagated in society, such a behaviour needs a powerful drive to preserve it. That’s usually a massive reproductive advantage but that’s not the case here. That brings up some uncomfortable questions about propagation of behaviour with younger members of the species being a strong imprinter of behaviour.
The ‘disorder of sexual orientation’ tag was probably a fair one.
It was removed for social reasons not scientific ones. There was no new data, only social pressure. Just like how transsexualism is being removed, how gender dysphoria is being rebranded etc. and we’ve all seen the push for pedophilia to be rebranded as normal as well. But experts say, and people do like experts
I'd argue scoring low on machiavellian would actually be problematic because it indicates lack of self preservation and lack of understanding how the world works.
Yes I think that is a good explanation. A lot of the questions seem to read as the ability to manipulate but that ability is not the same as manipulating for bad. It’s more ‘I see what’s happening here and I see how to change it.’ That’s not in and of itself bad.
 
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There is 100% pride flags for each of the dark triad traits, isn’t there?
If not, give it time.

Machiavellianism

Not even an official disorder, it just means that, like you said, you're good at pattern recognition, and would be good at secret combinations and the like if you put your mind to it.

EDIT: @Oilspill Battery explained it far better than I could.

The difference is being sterile doesn't have a huge correlation (and arguably causation if we take into account how sex drives for men and women differ) with STD spread and infidelity.

Being sterile also isn't a choice, whereas acting on homosexual inclinations absolutely is.

Sterile heterosexuals can also contribute far more to society than gays can, by virtue of being able to provide both mother and father figures to children.
 
Being sterile also isn't a choice, whereas acting on homosexual inclinations absolutely is.

Sterile heterosexuals can also contribute far more to society than gays can, by virtue of being able to provide both mother and father figures to children.

Homosexuals are also a drain on society, since we throw enormous amounts of money into trying to stop their voracious sex and drug addictions from killing them.
 
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Homosexuals are also a drain on society, since we throw enormous amounts of money into trying to stop their voracious sex and drug addictions from killing them.

See, that's yet another thing that the fag movement refused to recognize: Marriage is not a right. Not even heterosexuals are entitled to marriage.

It's an investment. If the government wasn't expecting a return on investment (the family being the basic building block of society, thus taking a huge load off of law enforcement), there would be no reason for government to even get involved in marriage at all.

Fags give no return on investment, therefore they can fuck right off if they want to marry someone of the same sex. At least that's how it used to be. At least that's how it should have continued to be.
 
This article cements my current understanding of the world and beliefs. Being gay is a persistent illness/disability with high functionality, but it leads to a lot of other bullshit and risk-taking that ruins their life. Gay = bad, the only time it seems to work out is when I don't see it/know about it and you live a life that doesn't revolve around cooming.
 
Being sterile also isn't a choice, whereas acting on homosexual inclinations absolutely is.
One is a physical illness, the other is a mental one (chosing to act on the impulses of the mental one is a seperate thing entirely, imo in a world where phycology actually had integrity, we would have 2 categories for treating this).

Regardless I brought it up because people use the "If it doesn't impede your everyday life then its not a mental illness" completely ignoring societal context and treating childrearing as if its not part of life.
 
Gay = bad, the only time it seems to work out is when I don't see it/know about it and you live a life that doesn't revolve around cooming.

But even that's asking too much, otherwise fags would have stopped where they were at when sodomy laws were no longer enforced rather than demanding affirmation from the government via marriage. But I suppose that's where the "narcissism" bit comes in.

With that said tho, I've seen a small handful of people who make opposite sex, mixed orientation marriage work. However, they're extremely rare, hinge on the honesty of both partners (coming out of the closet BEFORE the marriage, not after), and it's not recommended in most cases.

Regardless I brought it up because people use the "If it doesn't impede your everyday life then its not a mental illness" completely ignoring societal context and treating childrearing as if its not part of life.

If my hypothesis is correct tho, that sexual orientation has less to do with genetics and more to do with upbringing and life experiences (which would explain why faggotry and troondom is found predominantly amongst increasingly younger generations), the solution is to stop raising children under conditions that would fuck up their brain wiring as far as sexuality is concerned.

Any previous "cure" for homosexuality simply didn't work and caused even more mental distress, conversion therapy simply isn't a good idea either way. We gotta look for preventative measures.

It cannot be emphasized enough: any evidence that homosexuality is caused by nurture rather than nature should be cause for concern, alarm even, and I shouldn't even have to explain why, unless mommy never told you how babies are made, and what that entails for the rest of society, even humanity.

This is your schizophrenic digression for today.
 
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True, but the fact that this managed to get published at all says something.

It got published in 2021.

Seems like the 2020s is the decade when fag/troon fatigue finally kicked in, when the LGBTQP community finally received some pushback/comeuppance for their decades of browbeating society to accept their degeneracy.

Seems like it's spread even into academia.

Nature is healing.

:optimistic:
 
That little stinger in the tail about bonobos is kind of amusing. In the very weekend that Uncle Ted passes away, I find a scientific paper suggesting homosexuality is the result of 'over socialisation'.

Anyway, the synchronicities pile up. Only the other day in the "Why is homosexuality a sacred cow" thread I made a comment of how in the West, we seem to have settled on this idea that sexual orientation is inherent and you're born that way whilst much of the rest of the world regards homosexuality as being defined by doing homosexual acts. And that this fundamental difference in world view influences treatment of homosexuals in society. Interesting that this paper hints at it being nurture over nature to a degree.

I'll have to re-read it but I think it may also lend credence to something else I said here recently which is that I'm not convinced that gay men and lesbians should really be grouped together. Whilst both are defined by what they are not (straight) that doesn't make them the same thing any more than two things not being a dog makes them both cats. I stated recently that if there were only lesbians and not gay men, then the sexual rights movement would have been settled and moved on from long ago. Who cares if two women make out? I don't see lesbians dressed in leather dogs masks being stroked by small children at Pride Parades. If this paper suggests differences in psychological make-up between gay men and lesbians that just adds to what I'm thinking.

As a general reply to those making posts along the lines of 'what evolutionary purposes does homosexuality serve?' I'm not wholly convinced it needs one. Evolution is a powerful but blind force. It cannot always escape its local minima and when it flows for a long time down one channel, it cannot always back up and start flowing down another one day. What I mean by this is that sometimes an evolutionary trait that is good comes along with something bad. Why do we eat down the same passage through which we breathe? People choke to death every day because of this but that doesn't mean tomorrow a child is going to spontaneously be born with a dolphin nose in his head and a perfectly separated oesophagus. Nope, we're too far down that track now - we get a little flap that we can open and close and we hope we make it through the first couple of years of our life without seeing a peanut. Or, peanuts a good example - we have evolved this fantastic immune system. But do we look for the evolutionary purpose of a fatal allergy? No, we just recognize that our immune system is the result of evolution not design and sometimes goes a little nuts. And it always will, Maybe homosexuality is just the nut allergy of our sexual instincts.

Well, it's more the opposite of a nut allergy given the gay men I've known, but you get my drift.
 
It was only removed as a disorder from the DSM in 1973. It was replaced with ‘sexual orientation disturbance’ and that was only removed in the early 80s.
There is significant lobbying going on to remove several fetish based diagnoses right now.
I find the dark triad interesting. When I’ve taken these tests I score very high on Machiavellianism but very low on psychopathy and narcissistic traits. I suspect a lot of the Machiavellianism measures are really just linked to pattern recognition
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Pattern Recognization is schizo behavior in current year
 
Playing Devil's advocate, if you wanted to argue that this correlation is really true, how would you address the counterargument that dark triad people are just more likely to be open and out about a historically discriminated identity? If there are people who are less than 100% gay, the dark triad ones would be the ones who come out first making the relationship go in the opposite direction.
 
The study seems to be suggesting that there may be an actual reason gays and lesbians (lesbos especially but for other reasons) are not huge fans of bisexuals, and not just because they (at least bi men) "won't choose a side". Outside of troons (lol at them not being considered for the study), bis having the "best of both worlds" apparently feeds into their self-centerness while also fucking with their sense of empathy towards others and morals (being "more open" to stuff means they don't have self-preservation). And men are more sex-driven than women, which is why men work as hard as they do, it's to get their frustrations out in a (hopefully) healthy manner so all that sexual energy doesn't go out of control. They're more likely to fall into all of the seven deadly sins at once than the others.

So if I read it right, the solution should be to whip all bi men back into shape by returning to the building blocks of society by sending them out into the fields to work that off so their sex drive doesn't go off the charts. Also to build character and teach them the value of hard work and being productive members of society, and be rewarded their spoils to enjoy, even if it's sex with whoever they choose but not for their self-gratification as before.

Or send them all into monasteries, I don't freaking know how else to keep them from becoming menaces to society if granting them marriage isn't working.
 
Playing Devil's advocate, if you wanted to argue that this correlation is really true, how would you address the counterargument that dark triad people are just more likely to be open and out about a historically discriminated identity? If there are people who are less than 100% gay, the dark triad ones would be the ones who come out first making the relationship go in the opposite direction.

Counterpoint: All the bad statistics about gays (commits more sex crimes against children per-capita, more prone to promiscuity or bed death with no in-between, more prone to STDs and even the intentional spreading of STDs) still hold true even after becoming the most privileged demographic in the west.

Even when they're treated like royalty, they're still awful people who play pretend about being oppressed because some pleb had the audacity to tell them no.

But mostly because of the nagging doubt in the back of their head that no, they are not normal, their sexuality is anomaly at best, their lifestyle offers no true fulfillment, and no amount of affirmation by society will ever change this.
 
It's an investment. If the government wasn't expecting a return on investment (the family being the basic building block of society, thus taking a huge load off of law enforcement), there would be no reason for government to even get involved in marriage at all.

Fags give no return on investment, therefore they can fuck right off if they want to marry someone of the same sex. At least that's how it used to be. At least that's how it should have continued to be.
The gay men I know who are married are considerably more stable than the unmarried sort. That's likely to be selection bias at work though.

The lesbians I know who are married are less stable, by far..
 
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