In other words they're patting themselves on the back for "denying" Russia access to the latest and greatest Intel and AMD CPUs and that fancy DDR5 DRAM tech. "Forcing" the Russians to stick with older, inferior hardware like lowly Pentium 4's or Athlons. No $2,000 folding phones for you, vatniks!
Assuming this is what's actually happening (and it makes sense, because lower-level parts are much more broadly available than fancy new CPUs), it demonstrates another symptom of Western thinking: we completely and utterly suck at building efficient systems and writing efficient software in the west, and we think everyone else does too. Often we're not wrong (observe pajeet software "engineering" for the canonical example of overpaid incompetence) but there are quite a few pockets of absurdly talented engineers out there, and Russia is one of them.
It's even dumber because neither the West nor the East use latest/greatest consumer tech for military applications. They use hardened electronics for military applications, which is decades behind the cutting edge technologically speaking. Performance gains are meaningless compared with reliability and resistance in harsh conditions.
Good post, I'd sperg about software engineering and how the inefficiencies of the West are symptomatic of SWE salaries scaling against hardware costs, but it's OT.
Good post, I'd sperg about software engineering and how the inefficiencies of the West are symptomatic of SWE salaries scaling against hardware costs, but it's OT.
Sir, you should sperg about it in Deep Thoughts instead. God knows, I'd be interested to hear about it because fuck me if I feel like everything is sliding backwards in terms of software.
It's funny to me how much sperging this video causes from NATO niggers. Obviously the movie isn't 100% accurate. It's a comedy drama meant to poke fun at how laughably bureaucratic and corrupt military procurement is, and not a documentary. It's actually correct in its overall point though it might not be in the details. For instance, there have been proven cases of pentagon brass sabotaging trials both to get shit into service and to block things from entering service. Ironically though, it's like the pentagon used this movie as a template for the development of the Stryker (not striker because stryker sounds cooler). It was marketed as being "modular" and able to fill damn near any role. They literally tried to mount a 105mm gun on it which broke the damn thing at one point, and the amour was so thin even anti personnel IEDs could kill it.
"Stryker" is actually named for a pair of Medal of Honor recipients (one from WWII, one from Vietnam).
The 105mm-armed variant is a particular clusterfuck, because it only exists because the Pentagon cancelled the M8 Ridgeway light tank. And they only cancelled the M8 for being "too heavy" because the Pentagon brass had an autistic obsession with the thing needing to be able to be carried and dropped by the C-130.
I don't have access to Telegram, but Red Effect had a new video out today that featured some new footage from Russian Telegram channels. (YouTube link)
It includes a Russian soldier who went up for a closer look at that Leopard and Bradley's that got knocked out the other day.
As well as drone footage showing that the Ukrainians, in their infinite wisdom, decided to send even more Bradley's to the exact same spot where a bunch got knocked out.
It's even dumber because neither the West nor the East use latest/greatest consumer tech for military applications. They use hardened electronics for military applications, which is decades behind the cutting edge technologically speaking.
Which by the way is all produced domestically in Russia, I don't know what fucking microchips they would hope to sanction and for what purpose if the military tech is produced entirely domestically.
There are also domesticchips for non military purposes in production, think they're mostly for government/some business use and are leagues behind the likes of AMD/Intel. I saw a Russian review of a consumer unit with one of these a while ago but other than that not sure how widely available they are to consumers. Probably not very popular because you can get a cheap chinkbook with the latest Intel/AMD processor off AliExpress with 100x performance.
Holy shit, levels of copium never before witnessed by mankind.
"Well these wunderwaffles are being destroyed left and right but hey, at least our guys aren't dying (as much) when it happens!"
You know what's better than equipment that doesn't kill its crew when it suffers critical damage? Equipment that's harder to inflict critical damage upon that's better suited to the task at hand, and that can actually bring its weapons to bear before being destroyed by an enemy that can just sit back lazily popping off bits of artillery to pick you off a piece at a time.
The thing is, equipment like this doesn't exist. Just about any modern, vehicle-borne AT munition is an absolute killer. You can't build armor heavy enough to withstand the kinds of weapons that helicopters, artillery, and other tanks can bring to bear. What you're seeing is what happens to armor when you don't have air superiority.
It's funny to me how much sperging this video causes from NATO niggers. Obviously the movie isn't 100% accurate. It's a comedy drama meant to poke fun at how laughably bureaucratic and corrupt military procurement is, and not a documentary. It's actually correct in its overall point though it might not be in the details. For instance, there have been proven cases of pentagon brass sabotaging trials both to get shit into service and to block things from entering service. Ironically though, it's like the pentagon used this movie as a template for the development of the Stryker (not striker because stryker sounds cooler). It was marketed as being "modular" and able to fill damn near any role. They literally tried to mount a 105mm gun on it which broke the damn thing at one point, and the amour was so thin even anti personnel IEDs could kill it.
The Stryker vehicle family is a 8x8 platform that can do a lot while having the same engine, transmission, and drivetrain as the other variants. It's also a decent enough APC in it's base configuration.
Imagine the embarrassment if they manage to use these to pop open some Leopard 2's, Abrams, or Bradley's.
"Stryker" is actually named for a pair of Medal of Honor recipients (one from WWII, one from Vietnam).
The 105mm-armed variant is a particular clusterfuck, because it only exists because the Pentagon cancelled the M8 Ridgeway light tank. And they only cancelled the M8 for being "too heavy" because the Pentagon brass had an autistic obsession with the thing needing to be able to be carried and dropped by the C-130.
Look at all those handy Chinese radios.... With encryption, easily available on Alibaba. I remember when US military thinkers were absolutely SHOCKED when jihadis all over started getting these and night vision systems and these idiots couldn't conceptualize ANYONE except Western troops having gear like that.
Which by the way is all produced domestically in Russia, I don't know what fucking microchips they would hope to sanction and for what purpose if the military tech is produced entirely domestically.
There are also domesticchips for non military purposes in production, think they're mostly for government/some business use and are leagues behind the likes of AMD/Intel. I saw a Russian review of a consumer unit with one of these a while ago but other than that not sure how widely available they are to consumers. Probably not very popular because you can get a cheap chinkbook with the latest Intel/AMD processor off AliExpress with 100x performance.
Yeah, Russia can domestically make ~2002 era CPUs in the 90nm range for sure and I think the 65nm range as well. For most military applications that's A OK. They're trying to get to 28nm domestically by 2030.
For the rest China can get you down to 14nm or so "legally" and you can buy all the Western chips you want through 3rd party brokers.
Look at all those handy Chinese radios.... With encryption, easily available on Alibaba. I remember when US military thinkers were absolutely SHOCKED when jihadis all over started getting these and night vision systems and these idiots couldn't conceptualize ANYONE except Western troops having gear like that.
Yea the CCR (Cheap Chinese Radios) encryption isn't secure. But it works good enough to not be cracked in real time by people on the ground. That's all you need.
Where as the US forces would spec $9,000 moto or harris radios that have aes256 and rotating keys etc etc.
Another thing is the cheap chinese drones with android tablets they are making alot of use of.
So,your T-72 has mirror optics that can't see shit in the trees? No problem when you have 4k birds eye view to spot for you.
Do anyone think the MIC people over at General AAS would ever let the us military hand those out instead of buying Reaper drones for recon? No way.
Everyone talking about the 8 Leo tanks that 6 where already wasted.
Russia has anywhere from 3900 to 10,000 soviet tanks in cold storage. They are today able to referb 80 to 100 a month. Add that to what ever they are able to make new. 100 t-72's today is much better then a IOU for 10 stripped down Abrams maybe next year.
It's the same thing the 152mm shells. Even Ukraine's cope numbers say Russia can make 20,000 a month. WWII tech? Ya. But with the numbers they are able to put out they can bash whole cities to dust. They can keep any wunderwaffen from even coming close to their lines.
Russia fucked up bigly in the start. But those fuckups exposed lot of the rot and phantom on-paper-only equipment they thought they always had. Ukraine SMO is forcing Russia unfuck itself when it comes to their military and manufacturing. .. And the SMO is also exposing the fact that NATO has completely outsourced and consolidated it's abilities make what it needs just to satisfy Wall Street. It can't even keep up with this little proxy war. Imagine if it had to supply something the scale of 'Nam for a few years?
Which by the way is all produced domestically in Russia, I don't know what fucking microchips they would hope to sanction and for what purpose if the military tech is produced entirely domestically.
There are also domesticchips for non military purposes in production, think they're mostly for government/some business use and are leagues behind the likes of AMD/Intel. I saw a Russian review of a consumer unit with one of these a while ago but other than that not sure how widely available they are to consumers. Probably not very popular because you can get a cheap chinkbook with the latest Intel/AMD processor off AliExpress with 100x performance.
Yeah, Russia can domestically make ~2002 era CPUs in the 90nm range for sure and I think the 65nm range as well. For most military applications that's A OK. They're trying to get to 28nm domestically by 2030.
For the rest China can get you down to 14nm or so "legally" and you can buy all the Western chips you want through 3rd party brokers.
Add in the fact that Russia has been building their software more efficiently, and those chips must be pretty competitive - or at least perfectly useable. I don't think ANY US-affiliated country has this tight of control over their government's hardware, much less theOS. Considering how much the CIA is notorious for literally spying on America's own allies, this is an impressive amount of cybersecurity. They even have their own form of a TPM with the MAKSIM-M1
Wouldn't surprise me if next they say they can totally fix a tank into working order with just Flex Tape. These armchair niggers treating their supposedly advanced pieces of military equipment like it's fucking LEGO.
Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk Oblast - located on the Russian-Ukrainian contact line
Blahodatne
To recap, on June 4, Ukraine launched a large assault from the Ukrainian-held town of Velyka Novosilka and its suburb of Vremivka to capture the Russian-held village of Neskuchne in the south, one of a series of villages alongside the Mokri Yaly River. The Ukrainians managed to establish a foothold and capture most of the village from the Russians. However, on the same day, the Russians counter-attacked and pushed the Ukrainians out of the village.
However, on June 10, the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) launched another offensive to capture Neskuchne, with large assaults on the west and eastern flank, and the Donetsk Special Forces Kaskad of the Russian Army finally withdrew, with Ukraine capturing Neskuchne as well as tons of fields mostly in the eastern flank of Neskuchne.
On June 11, Kaskad Special Forces soon withdrew from the villages of Storozheve, Blahodatne***, and Makarivka south of Neskuchne to positions in the villages of Staromaiorske and Urozhaine. AFU units swiftly captured the villages soon after Russian departure, and have posted videos of them hosting flags in several buildings in Neskuchne and Blahodatne***. They are now around 11 km from the first Russian defensive line.
On the same day, Kaskad units have already launched counter-attacks, with pro-Russian reporter Remylind23 predicting that these four villages with switch hands between the Russians and Ukrainians multiple times over the week.
Pro-Russian Telegrammers went full panic because Russia didn't hold the villages. Remylind23 called these Telegrammers "doomers" and basically called them stupid for not understanding how tactics work, mentioning how Kaskad forces basically withdrew to more advantageous territory to hold so that Russian artillery can shell Ukrainian positions within these captured villages, turning most of their gains into a grey area. - https://ghostarchive.org/archive/w2cYH
June 11
Neskuchne
*** - This confused one of our friends in the other thread, who thought that this village of Blahodatne was located to Soledar, but I can't blame him, because Donetsk Oblast has at least 4 villages named Blahodatne thanks to Ukraine derussifying the names, which made a lot of villages in a single oblast have the same name.
Orikhiv Offensive - Ukraine makes small gains with heavy losses
Orikhiv, Zaporizhzhia Oblast - located on the Russian-Ukrainian contact line
Before June 7, Ukraine amassed forces in the town of Orikhiv in preparation for the offensive, finally getting the long desired Western equipment that they need to launch an assault in Russian positions in the south, such as Leopard 2 tanks (A4 and A6) and many Bradley IFVs.
The Russians are reinforced in their villages of Robotyne, which is south of Orikhiv, and Novopokrovka, which is southeast of Orikhiv.
Orkhiv is surrounded by three villages in the south where the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) can launch their assaults: Novoandriivka (southwest), Novodanylivka (south), and Mala Tokmachka (southeast).
On June 7, the AFU launched a full-scale offensive from the towns of Novoandriivka, Novodanylivka, and Mala Tokmachka consisting of elite mechanized infantry and armored vehicles such as Leopard 2s and Bradley IFVs. The brunt force of the offensive came from the village of Mala Tokmachka, where the AFU launched waves of 40-60 mechanized infantrymen each, with their armored vehicles. Each wage was defeated thanks to artillery and aerial strikes from Russian attack helicopters like the Kamov Ka-52.
Fighting still continued on June 8 and June 9, where the AFU sent wave after wave of troops and armored vehicles, which allowed to advance further towards Robotyne and Novopokrovka, capturing many fields. However, as they approach closer to Robotyne and Novopokrovka, these waves are always repelled by the Russians. From their failed assaults to take Robotyne, the AFU lost at least nine tanks in addition to many infantry fighting vehicles, including several Leopard 2s and many Bradley IFVs.
Following that day, Ukraine has stopped launching assaults in this front. No action has occurred here as of this post was made.
June 9
Destroyed Bradley IFVs and a Leopard 2A6. Some of these Bradleys came from a second convoy to retrieve the Leopard 2A6 tank but these were destroyed or abandoned.
Kamov Ka-52 striking the AFU convoy
Battle of Lobkove - Lobkove now a grey area, switched between Russia and Ukraine multiple times
Lobkove, Zaporizhzhia Oblast - located on the Russian-Ukrainian contact line
On June 7, a small Ukrainian detachment consisting of 2 Humvees, 2 APCs, and 60 infantrymen, approached the Russian-held village of Lobkove, located 8 km east of the Dnipro River. The Ukrainians were then driven back after around a half of an hour of fighting.
An hour and a half later on the same day, a Ukrainian tank column backed by infantrymen launched an assault into Lobkove, sustaining casualties from artillery and aerial strikes until they were crushed in less than an hour. The AFU were unable to bring back any wounded, fallen soldiers, or armor.
On June 8, at some point, the AFU launched a larger assault in which they managed to seize the village of Lobkove from the Russians. However, Russian infantrymen recaptured Lobkove overnight on June 9th, and pushed the AFU out of the village.
Lobkove is turned into a grey area again when fighting over control of the village began in June 10th. Ukraine managed to seize the village on June 11th and attempted to launch an assault into the Russian-held village of Luhove in the southwest right after the capture of Lobkove. However, the Russian Army counter-attacked, defeated the Ukrainians, and the AFU retreated back to their original positions before the capture of Lobkove. Lobkove is still in a grey area.
June 11
Battle of Novodonetsk - Russia still holds Novodonetsk
Novodonetsk, Donetsk Oblast - located on the Russian-Ukrainian contact line
To recap, on June 4, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) advanced south of the Shaitanka River, establishing a beachhead north of the Russian-held town of Novodonetsk, garrisoned by Russian marines. The Ukrainians captured a lot of land west of Novodonetsk and captured several Russian positions. The AFU then launched an assault to take the village but were repelled.
The following day, the AFU launched a larger assault and managed to gain a foothold in the village, drawing from more of their reserves. Fighting was intense between the AFU and the Russian marines, but after hours of fierce fighting, Ukraine managed to seize Novodonetsk from the Russian Armed Forces. Despite the loss, Russian marines have already planned a counter-attack the recapture the town.
After midnight on June 6, Russian marines successfully launched a night assault to take Novodonetsk, removing the presence of Ukrainian soldiers from Novodonetsk proper, with the AFU sustaining casualties. The AFU attempted a counter-attack on the Russian garrison but were repelled.
On June 7, Russian marines launched an assault west of Novodonetsk and were able to seize a lot of their lost positions, and on June 8, the Russians managed to push the Ukrainian presence out of south of the Shaitanka River, turning the area into a grey zone. Ukrainians attempts to capture Novodonetsk commenced again on June 10. As of this post, Russia still holds the village.
June 5
June 6
June 8
Other Ukrainian Assaults
Bakhmut Front
Bakhmut, Donetsk Oblast
On June 5, Ukraine launched an assault to capture the village of Berkhivka in the northern flank of Bakhmut. They managed to capture some Russian positions along the Berkhivka Reservoir. They then launched a second assault to take Berkhivka and were able to reach the first houses of Berkhivka. However, the Russian Army counter-attacked and forced the Ukrainians back to their positions before their second assault.
Later on June 7, more Russian forces retreated from their positions towards the village of Berkhivka, allowing the Ukrainians to take these positions. (1) The Russian Army then launched a large assault to retake some of their positions alongside the Berkhivka Reservoir on June 11th and succeeded, with the Ukrainian forces launching a counter-attack.
On June 8, Ukrainian forces captured more land west of the canal in the southern flank of Bakhmut. (2)
Donetsk Front
Donetsk, Donetsk Oblast
North of Donetsk in the Russian-held village of Opytne, Ukraine launched an assault on June 7 that recaptured several positions from the Russian Army in the north of Opytne. As the Ukrainians draw closer to Opytne, the Russian Army launched a counter-attack to push the Ukrainian positions back to their original gains. (3)
Don't focus on the meaning of the names too much; the names of the Russian command groups don't corroborate with their actual locations and directions.
Zapad (Запад, West; controls the Russian Armed Forces at the Kupyansk Front in Kharkiv Oblast)
Tsentr (Центр, Center; controls the Russian Armed Forces at the Kreminna Front in Luhansk Oblast/northern Donetsk Oblast)
Yug (Юг, South; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Bakhmut and Andiivka/North Donetsk) - the most competent and efficient of the five, including the most elite of the Armed Forces, the Russian Airborne Forces (VDV; Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska)
Vostok (Восток, East; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Zaporizhzhya Oblast, west Donetsk Oblast)
Dnipro (Днепр; Dnieper River; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Kherson Oblast)
Private Military Companies
Wagner Group (unknown)
Konvoy (operates in Kherson Oblast)
Special Forces
Akhmat (operates in Luhansk Oblast and Donetsk Oblast) - pro-Russian Chechen special forces
OBTF Kaskad (operates in Zaporizhzhia Oblast) - pro-Russian Donetsk militia special forces
I will probably stop doing these updates for awhile since I don't find myself having fun churning them out and it feels more like work to me. I may post updates on Ukrainian gains just to give the most transparent information to the thread or when Russians siege a city, but I think this thread is well-informed enough on most of these matters that I don't feel the need to update people on what's going on.
Wouldn't surprise me if next they say they can totally fix a tank into working order with just Flex Tape. These armchair niggers treating their supposedly advanced pieces of military equipment like it's fucking LEGO.
