Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Just Some Other Guy]

It's really telling that they don't even soften up positions with artillery...hell, ANYTHING, before just rolling forward into shit. As soon as they try to roll past a forward village they just get blammed by artillery.

No air support, no artillery support, no recon support....just roll armored vehicles forward and hope for the best. They really did get high of their own propaganda. This is like some WW2 Italian incompetence.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It's really telling that they don't even soften up positions with artillery...hell, ANYTHING, before just rolling forward into shit. As soon as they try to roll past a forward village they just get blammed by artillery.

No air support, no artillery support, no recon support....just roll armored vehicles forward and hope for the best. They really did get high of their own propaganda. This is like some WW2 Italian incompetence.

Even Starship Troopers' MI changed tactics when they got fucked.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

This is like some WW2 Italian incompetence.

Please don't insult Italians like that. Although they too have a plethora of dialects, they're at least pleasing to the ear, and while their modern military is a joke, its because the average Italian soldier knows modern wars are a joke so what's the point? Italians also have an immense variety of dishes and food to brag about and probably wouldn't consider pickled pork fat* fit to feed their dogs even.

*no offense to our Eastern European yuros but it is what it is and doesn't compare to prosciutto di Parma, prosciutto crudo di Daniele, culatello di Zibello, bresaola (beef) or even lardo, which is similar to salo but made God tier by the Tuscan curing method.

 

[Male Idiot]

Italians at least look fabulous while loosing and had cute mini tanks. They had a fash-on sense!

Pork fat is better then any pasta. As the migrant ships show, pasta doesn't keep migrants and jude out!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Pork fat is better then any pasta

War has been declared; however, since I'm having focaccia and Felino style salame right now you are just going to have to wait.

Edit: just learned Ukraine asked Germany for more Leopard 2 tanks

Pls can we have more woonder waffles?/Archive
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loooooooooooooooooool

 

[Spud]

Put down the camera and make yourself useful.

What do you mean? He's making himself useful by taking the photo.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

War Cats for June 12, 2023

Happy Russia Day!







С Днём России!

Z

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

War has been declared; however, since I'm having focaccia and Felino style salame right now you are just going to have to wait.

Edit: just learned Ukraine asked Germany for more Leopard 2 tanks
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Pls can we have more woonder waffles?/Archive
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loooooooooooooooooool

In his opinion, the Bundeswehr is capable of providing more than the 18 already delivered pieces from its stockpile of more than 300. The current number could be "tripled without jeopardising Germany's ability to defend itself".

Rather entitled attitude there. Not so much giimmiedats as demandmedats.

'Course my (possibly incorrect) understanding of the current state of combat readiness of the Bundeswehr is that they'd be lucky to have 75 fit for battle as I write this.

 

[im5!XxhO]

'Course my (possibly incorrect) understanding of the current state of combat readiness of the Bundeswehr is that they'd be lucky to have 75 fit for battle as I write this.

The Leopard 2 is one of the few weapon systems that had usually high readiness in the Bundeswehr (high meaning about 70% combat ready before they made the numbers secret lol). However that is not going to help you since the Bundeswehr only has about 320 tanks on the books of which 100 are with the industry getting upgraded. Of the remaining tanks 18 were already given to Ukraine and with the rest of the inventory the Bundeswehr is already unable to fulfill NATO obligations and training. So we are not scrapping the barrel we have already scratched through it and are currently digging towards the center of the earth.

But don't worry, there's still the German arms industry. What's that? Oh right it got downsized heavily since the Cold war so you can order you Leopard 2 now and you will get them delivered in 2025. But hey we got some retro Leopard 1s rusting somewhere, those are almost as good at getting blown up by russian artillery.

People clown on Russia but Russia is at least able to produce around 150 to 200 new mbts every single month. Add to that the around 100s they refurbish out of cold storage and you get a year's worth of NATO presents every single month.

Edit: Summary: NATO and certainly not Germany is in any way prepared for a medium sized conventional war.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

But don't worry, there's still the German arms industry. What's that? Oh right it got downsized heavily since the Cold war so you can order you Leopard 2 now and you will get them delivered in 2025. But hey we got some retro Leopard 1s rusting somewhere, those are almost as good at getting blown up by russian artillery.

Maybe the Germans should send the Ukes a few copies of one of Guderian's books instead. 'Course since he was Eastern Front I don't think he ever really faced being on the wrong end of air superiority.

 

[just a banana]

need some more to toss on the pile

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/12/7406423/

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Y1AB3?wr=true

 

[Male Idiot]

Maybe the Germans should send the Ukes a few copies of one of Guderian's books instead. 'Course since he was Eastern Front I don't think he ever really faced being on the wrong end of air superiority.
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Bold of you to suggest that ukranians can read latin letters. Or at all if they have enough nose candy to conjure their next cope.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

How I Met Your Missile: A Hohol Azov Love Story:

Hohol in a humvee films himself meeting an ATGM or running over a mine, was not available to confirm which.

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Момент подрыва на мине американского бронеавтомобиля HMMWV под управлением украинского экипажа в ходе одной из недавних атак на позиции ВС РФ.​

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The moment of the explosion on a mine of an American armored car HMMWV under the control of a Ukrainian crew during one of the recent attacks on the positions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.​

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https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/109754

I'm no infantry expert but isn't driving in an open field with zero air support, shooting away, akin to painting a target on your back and screaming "Here I am!" to the Russian position?

 

[The Ugly One]

It's really telling that they don't even soften up positions with artillery...hell, ANYTHING, before just rolling forward into shit. As soon as they try to roll past a forward village they just get blammed by artillery.

No air support, no artillery support, no recon support....just roll armored vehicles forward and hope for the best. They really did get high of their own propaganda. This is like some WW2 Italian incompetence.

Russians Telegrammers report the Russian side is being shelled all night before the attacks in the morning.

Also, they say that the villages being taken are part of the screening line. This is a series of fairly lightly defended positions whose principal purpose is to rob the enemy of the element of surprise. They're well-defended enough that they might hold their own, but they're set up to be evacuated quickly back to one of the three main lines of defense. So if the enemy captures one, he's not going to get a bunch of Giatsints or SU-35s. According to these reports, at least the last I read, Ukraine hasn't penetrated to the first main defensive line, of which there are three.

Maybe the Germans should send the Ukes a few copies of one of Guderian's books instead. 'Course since he was Eastern Front I don't think he ever really faced being on the wrong end of air superiority.
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The USSR had air parity after Stalingrad, and air superiority after Kursk. Guderian ended up being inept at defensive warfare and really had no idea at all what to do when on the wrong side of tanks and bombers, so his fortifications in East Prussia just got roflstomped by the Red Army. Germany's better defensive generals were largely dismissed by Hitler because they did things like tactical retreats that made the Fuehrer have a big sad.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

The Ukrainians tried "uparmoring with cringe" but it wasn't very effective.




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[Jump]

Remember when the NOFO types are cheering about taking some random ghost towns at the front line after 3 days of heavy fighting..

It has to be a nightmare to pull a soviet tank out of storage. You know every inch of that thing is caked with cosmoline.
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Unfortunately I think most t-72's and 80s where just parked in vast outside fields and left to sit after the fall of the USSR. So those all need a complete rebuild. Still alot of work but it saves you from having to build the hull and forge/machine all the big heavy parts like the wheels. And taking shit apart, sandblasting,repainting, etc needs a lot less skilled worker then building one from scratch.

One story I read suggested that the T-62s are actually easier to bring back because those where prepped for storage better since it got done in the heyday of the ussr. But who knows. It's hard to tell because any english story I find about them is always spun and twisted in anti-russia bullshit trying to knock them for using the old tanks. We can't just talk about facts. They need to convince me Russia is about to run out of ammo and has no running tanks left and Ukraine is totally winning. Of course most of these stories are about a year old now.
But I think the reality is not even Russia knows what it really has sitting around. The only thing I can tell for sure is at ~100 tanks a month they can harvest old t72 or newer for years going off just what people have found in sat photos.

Here is some more photo's for everyone's cringe folder. I wonder how they feel now seeing how the holol's just made their wonderwaffen leo's look useless. My bet is most wont look outside their little bubbles and will never even know what happened to them. They must be rolling on Moscow by now!

 

[Matt Damon]

Here is some more photo's for everyone's cringe folder. I wonder how they feel now seeing how the holol's just made their wonderwaffen leo's look useless. My bet is most wont look outside their little bubbles and will never even know what happened to them.

They treat war like football fans treat the signing of a franchise quarterback. Have war supporters always been this faggy or is this an artifact of the social media age?

 

[Kane Lives]

They treat war like football fans treat the signing of a franchise quarterback. Have war supporters always been this faggy or is this an artifact of the social media age?

Were you around during the Bush era post-9/11 and in the run-up to the war in Eye-raq? Same vibe.

 

[im5!XxhO]

I don't think there ever was a period in human history where war support was an intellectual and measured endeavor. It is just that nowadays you can easily see all the retardation on TV and social media.

 

[Stasi]

Were you around during the Bush era post-9/11 and in the run-up to the war in Eye-raq? Same vibe.

I remember the local paper where I lived at the time doing a feature on the weapons and equipment each day hyping them up with ratings and going into the specs and what not. Literally like it was the build-up to an F-1 race or a sportsball game.

I do find it weird and honestly disappointing when talking to people my age and older about the current conflict, they all remember the torrent of bullshit from governments and the MSM during Iraq and the collective embarrassment that followed and yet somehow just swallow the MSM line now without question, doesn't even enter their mind that the media might not be 100% honest. How many times do you need to be lied to before you wise up.