Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Male Idiot]

Neggervolk went full jungle. Ooga booga slav goes into pot, make soupenko.

Truly the epitome of whiteness.

 

[LeroyJenkem]

And just like that, the whole squad ends up with a really bad prion disease

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Will Lithuanians ever stop publicly smearing themselves in shit? Exactly the kind of place I would expect to be ground zero for embarrassing globohomo fellating cringe like NAFO.

I find it weird, actually. Lithuania seems relatively tame in regards to the globohomo (as much as one can be under the gun of its master), it's the upper baltics that seem more fitting (Estonia especially).

Is there a thread to observe this (what I expect to be extremely lol-worthy) event?

Is this thread not fitting?

I've often thought that NAFO would be a worthy candidate for a community watch thread, but I don't know if you could have one without inevitably violating the containment rules regarding the Russia-Ukraine war discussions.

Strictly speaking, it might not (depending on how the thread is made, and what it focuses on), but good luck finding mods who'd sign off on that. Practically speaking, you're right, we all know what'd happen.

There is always the r/VolunteersForUkraine Community Watch thread which does include discussion on the NAFO community and survived not being put in Mass Debates.

I'm 90% sure all mods forgot about that thread actually. I know I did.

Anyway:

https://www.voanews.com/a/7134747.html

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/lUPcZ

But, US sees a problem! It is bad for PR!


WaPo warns about waning support for UKR if their offensive fails

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-set-to-approve-depleted-uranium-tank-rounds-for-ukraine-f6d98dcf

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/WkVVW

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Depleted Uranium Rounds 2; Electric Boogaloo



“The Biden administration is expected to provide Ukraine with depleted-uranium rounds” — Wall Street Journal
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What happened to the ones the bongs gave them?

 

[Smug Chuckler]

Is it true that they have 6 brigades left? 2 got destroyed and only 4 villages? Sad.

 

[Stasi]

I find it weird, actually. Lithuania seems relatively tame in regards to the globohomo (as much as one can be under the gun of its master), it's the upper baltics that seem more fitting (Estonia especially).

My theory is Lithuania has a relatively long history as a state and political power in the region so perhaps have a smidge more backbone in their political elite and people in general are a bit more grounded and sane. The other two were literal dirt farmers with no statehood or nation as such until relatively recently.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

have a smidge more backbone in their political elite

Oh, no, the elites are cucked like everywhere (just look at the laws they are trying to pass). I was talking more about the common folk.

The other two were literal dirt farmers with no statehood or nation as such until relatively recently.

>Be Estonia and Latvia
>Your entire history is being Lithuanian/Polish/Lithuanian-Polish/Russian/German territory
>pretend that you're totally a nation, otherwise cry.

 

[Kiwi Sneed Snake]

The Stryker's armor, which is tough enough to withstand heat from just about any crew-served weapon that isn't an outright ATGM, is fine for its role within a NATO combined arms strategy. Sure, it'll get ripped apart by something like the Soviet 30mm autocannon, but under US military doctrine, you don't roll up your armor while anybody's still got anything big enough to mount an autocannon on to point at it.

I think the problem the Ukies will have here is that pretty much EVERYTHING in the Russian motor pool that's not a 4x4 has at least a 30mm cannon. The only real outliners being the original btr 60/70 which had a single 14.5mm HMG.

Hell even the airborne BMD 1/2 which is the lightest soviet APC/IFV has a 73mm low velocity gun or 30mm cannon.

So technically the Stryker is at risk from pretty much every Russian AFV that's not a 4x4 jeep lol.

It's interesting that the Russians developed all their vehicles this way, it's almost as if they realized that in a modern war against an enemy that would be using massed armoured vehicles, that a single 12.7mm or 14.5mm was not going to cut it.

Considering the Stryker is the US equivalent of BTR 80 and is a fairly recent vehicle to be introduced (2002) developed circa 1999, you can tell it was designed for fighting light military operations (high speed low drag) and not near pear opponents hence the weaker armour and poor offensive capabilities. Which means it will be hopeless to send into a war like this.
The Bradley on the other hand is the complete opposite and you can tell it was designed for fighting against an opponent with proper armoured assets (not that it's doing the holhols much good...).

Edit - regarding the Stryker's with "30mm cannon" the US has less than 100 of them with the next 80 or so scheduled for delivery next year. Compare that to literally tens of thousands of Russian IFV/APC's with 2A42 30mm autocannons...

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

But why would Ukraine need DU rounds? I thought Russia is only using old outdated museum pieces that Leo 1s could totally take out 10 to 1. Now that's a thinker.

 

[The Ugly One]

I think the problem the Ukies will have here is that pretty much EVERYTHING in the Russian motor pool that's not a 4x4 has at least a 30mm cannon. The only real outliners being the original btr 60/70 which had a single 14.5mm HMG.

Hell even the airborne BMD 1/2 which is the lightest soviet APC/IFV has a 73mm low velocity gun or 30mm cannon.

So technically the Stryker is at risk from pretty much every Russian AFV that's not a 4x4 jeep lol.

If your command is sending APCs to attack other APCs, your #1 risk is that command is a bunch of retards who don't know what any of the units they're commanding are actually for. You're talking about this like it's a video game where balance is some kind of requirement. BTRs aren't for fighting other Strykers any more TU-95s are for fighting B-52s (and BTR''s armor is nothing to write home about...like the Stryker, it's mostly for protection vs small arms).

It's interesting that the Russians developed all their vehicles this way, it's almost as if they realized that in a modern war against an enemy that would be using massed armoured vehicles, that a single 12.7mm or 14.5mm was not going to cut it.

Considering the Stryker is the US equivalent of BTR 80 and is a fairly recent vehicle to be introduced (2002) developed circa 1999, you can tell it was designed for fighting light military operations (high speed low drag) and not near pear opponents hence the weaker armour and poor offensive capabilities. Which means it will be hopeless to send into a war like this.
The Bradley on the other hand is the complete opposite and you can tell it was designed for fighting against an opponent with proper armoured assets (not that it's doing the holhols much good...).

Bradleys and Strykers are complementary, not opposed. Different vehicles, different roles.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Cellphone video around the blown up leopard and bradleys

Spoiler: trigger warning: dead bodies and lots of Punisher patches)

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archive

Now with subtitles

Spoiler: same warnings as before dead/NSFW

From here

 

[Kiwi Sneed Snake]

If your command is sending APCs to attack other APCs, your #1 risk is that command is a bunch of retards who don't know what any of the units they're commanding are actually for.

Are you watching/following the same war as everyone else? There has been countless examples of IFV/APC's fighting without MBT support....so yeah if my IFV/APC has a 30mm cannon and yours has a 12.7 HMG guess who's fucked.

And yeah the C2 for Ukraine are a bunch of retards hence the smoking field of Bradley's with little/no real MBT support.
Again are you watching the same war?

(and BTR''s armor is nothing to write home about...like the Stryker, it's mostly for protection vs small arms).

I never said it was and both will get shredded by 30mm so what's the point?

Bradleys and Strykers are complementary, not opposed. Different vehicles, different roles.

I'll believe that when I see any evidence of them being used as such by the AFU. Remember this isn't American fighting doctrines, it's send unsupported M113's + soft skinned vehicles to get droned, while your IFV's and MBT's drive around in circles.

Edit -

Spoiler: APC vs IFV

So this is why you compare IFV to IFV case in point Ukrainian IFV/APC vs Russian BMP.

 

[Kid Named Rocket]

Depleted Uranium Rounds 2; Electric Boogaloo

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“The Biden administration is expected to provide Ukraine with depleted-uranium rounds” — Wall Street Journal
link

What happened to the ones the bongs gave them?

The Russians blew up the Ukies' ammo storage that had those british uranium rounds, and it caused a big haha funny cloud that everyone freaked out over for a couple days, then promptly forgot about

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

It also doesn't help that NATO insist on fighting with Batchall logic where they send the least amount of equipment they believe is necessary to win the war. Only now is Biden willing to send F-16s at some point. Maybe some gimped Abrams which will probably end up like those Leopards a few months from now.

F16's aren't any better than what the Ukrainian air force had when the war started (which was all destroyed fairly quickly), especially the export version of the F16. Fighter jets have essentially been made obsolete by modern air-defense systems, especially Russia's. Russia and China learned long ago that they couldn't compete with US development of billion-dollar jets and ships and instead focused on advanced radar plus 5-figure missiles that blow the shit out of those billion-dollar jets and ships and stockpiling massive numbers of them. Cheaper drones that just carry hand grenades have changed the game even more. While the US still builds billion-dollar jets and ships (because those are really just a domestic jobs program, not military defense).

I have a feeling that NATO troops will eventually be deployed and that will highlight how little we actually care about Ukrainians since we'll wait until half a million of them are dead first.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

So I see that the war is still happening, huh?
Guess I'll have to wait a little longer until I can afford eggs and milk again.

 

[ThatDutchManace]

Our State Media writes that Dutch Military Intelligence (MIVD) found out that Ukraine was planning to sabotage Nord Stream in June last year. They relayed this to the CIA, who warned Ukraine not to do it. In September, the pipeline was sabotaged anyway, in the exact scenario that the MIVD exposed.

The report tries to clear Clown-In-Chief Zelensky's name, instead pinning the blame on hohol vegetable Zaluzhny.
Google-translated article (Archive)

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

F16's aren't any better than what the Ukrainian air force had when the war started (which was all destroyed fairly quickly), especially the export version of the F16. Fighter jets have essentially been made obsolete by modern air-defense systems, especially Russia's. Russia and China learned long ago that they couldn't compete with US development of billion-dollar jets and ships and instead focused on advanced radar plus 5-figure missiles that blow the shit out of those billion-dollar jets and ships and stockpiling massive numbers of them. Cheaper drones that just carry hand grenades have changed the game even more. While the US still builds billion-dollar jets and ships (because those are really just a domestic jobs program, not military defense).

I have a feeling that NATO troops will eventually be deployed and that will highlight how little we actually care about Ukrainians since we'll wait until half a million of them are dead first.

NATO troops would probably do worse than the Ukrainians. All the logistical problems the Ukiebros have now get multiplied as entire countries can't exchange material and have to rely on translators to coordinate with each other. They don't get home team advantage either and border states would be unwilling to commit too many of their own resources at the risk of draining themselves. Finland, for example, joined NATO so that America would defend them; they don't want to become America's cannon fodder.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

How I Met Your Missile: A Hohol Azov Love Story:

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Hohol in a humvee films himself meeting an ATGM or running over a mine, was not available to confirm which.

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Момент подрыва на мине американского бронеавтомобиля HMMWV под управлением украинского экипажа в ходе одной из недавних атак на позиции ВС РФ.​

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The moment of the explosion on a mine of an American armored car HMMWV under the control of a Ukrainian crew during one of the recent attacks on the positions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.​

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https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/109754

I'm no infantry expert but isn't driving in an open field with zero air support, shooting away, akin to painting a target on your back and screaming "Here I am!" to the Russian position?

That makes me so sad considering that M2 is probably over fifty years old and should be in either my hands or a museum. But thanks to our zogged out world its rotting in some field due to Hohol incompetence.

I've often thought that NAFO would be a worthy candidate for a community watch thread, but I don't know if you could have one without inevitably violating the containment rules regarding the Russia-Ukraine war discussions.

If the faggy leftits can have their Donald Trump lolcow thread even though it went against the grain of no overtly political lolcows, I think NAFO should be a fair compromise. Paging @Haramburger and @Useful_Mistake

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Is it true that they have 6 brigades left? 2 got destroyed and only 4 villages? Sad.

Their "brigades" are likely understrength battalions

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

NATO troops would probably do worse than the Ukrainians. All the logistical problems the Ukiebros have now get multiplied as entire countries can't exchange material and have to rely on translators to coordinate with each other. They don't get home team advantage either and border states would be unwilling to commit too many of their own resources at the risk of draining themselves. Finland, for example, joined NATO so that America would defend them; they don't want to become America's cannon fodder.

When I say NATO troops I really mean US troops with different colored helmets. The US is NATO.