Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

So the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-con think tank that brought you such brilliant ideas as the Iraq War and supporting the "moderate rebels" (read: Islamists) in Syria, has released another great think piece to address the security issues of our times: "Let's give Ukraine nukes!" (Archive)
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If we were to field those in volume in Ukraine, the big boy version that is actually meant to go up against Russian equipment, maybe 500 of them, that's $12b in tanks. $12b is six times the annual budget we spend on ourselves in tanks, and nobody is out there accusing the USA of being thrifty when it comes to our military budget
That has some concerning implications, as it doesn't cost Russia nearly as much to make effectively equivalent equipment right?

So the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-con think tank that brought you such brilliant ideas as the Iraq War and supporting the "moderate rebels" (read: Islamists) in Syria, has released another great think piece to address the security issues of our times: "Let's give Ukraine nukes!" (Archive)
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I imagine if the US DID give Ukraine tactical nukes, everyone would be talking about it on social media and the like so Russia is alerted and can bomb the depots the moment the nukes get shipped to Ukraine.
 
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Look, the US is blinking red, Who's going to field all these shiny toys? Since being a patriot is white supremacy there are no patriots signing up to die for Israel the USA. They're already using foederati despite knowing how that will play out; denouncing your citizens as enemies of the BIPOC isn't not going to go well when you arm huge numbers of BIPOC because when they're done killing your enemies they will simply kill you.

Those shiny toys depend on parts from a nation hostile to the US. They depend on raw materials to nations hostile to the US, and depend on plants and machinery that barely exist because most of that is now in that hostile nation. So you can have the shiny bajillion dollar woonder waffles, but Russia and China learned that you just need a shit ton of toys that can inflict pain, then made a shit ton and then some and also keep the manufacture of their toys in-house so they can keep churning them out. We. can. not.

I know its unpopular to point this out, and always has been, going back to General Billy Mitchell, but if you remember he was vindicated and is now a hero for pulling the fire alarm that everyone ignored, to their shame and regret.
 
So the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-con think tank that brought you such brilliant ideas as the Iraq War and supporting the "moderate rebels" (read: Islamists) in Syria, has released another great think piece to address the security issues of our times: "Let's give Ukraine nukes!" (Archive)
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Surely none is that fucking stupid right? They decommissioned the nukes in SA before they let the niggers in charge.
 
When I say NATO troops I really mean US troops with different colored helmets. The US is NATO.
This wouldn't be 2 superpowers fucking around in some far off island. It would be going on right on Moscow's doorstep. The Russian government isn't going to just go OH WELL and walk away and clean out their desks any more then the US government would. It would be M.A.D. time.

Sending US troops would only have 2 possible outcomes.
A) They take massive KIA's because they are facing an enemy that can operate in the air and not just sand niggers with AK's
B) They go in hard Desert Storm style and blow the Russians out...which leads to nukes flying

If Biden was 20 years younger I think he would understand this is a really bad road to be on, and pushed for some sort of deal to be cut. Shithole Ukraine isn't worth the risk. But now he is a potato and we have a bunch of clueless laptop class puling the strings who live in the DC bubble, and are completely disconnected from reality. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep escalating until something big happens.

Ukraine isn't going to drive out Russia with their own manpower. The hohol well isn't deep enough. Like what the fuck is 10 Abrams tanks and a hand full of old fighter jets going to do that the countless tanks and MIG's they already lost didn't do? Their display with the LEO's show they have no one with any clue left alive. It's just bottom of the barrel randoms left now.

Since being a patriot is white supremacy there are no patriots signing up to die for Israel the USA.

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So the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-con think tank that brought you such brilliant ideas as the Iraq War and supporting the "moderate rebels" (read: Islamists) in Syria, has released another great think piece to address the security issues of our times: "Let's give Ukraine nukes!" (Archive)
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Michael (((Rubin)))

Every. Fucking. Time.

However, that’s basically what they have to do to potentially deter Russia from carving out even bigger chunks of Ukraine. Except Russia has a lot of nukes too. This kike is treating Russia like some country to push around like Syria. Doesn’t seem smart to advocate this but the 109 number exists for a reason.
 
Except Russia has a lot of nukes too. This kike is treating Russia like some country to push around like Syria.
There are people who literally believe that Russia can't maintain their own nukes and don't actually have functional ones. Yes, they actually believe we should fuck around and find out how true that is.
 
There are people who literally believe that Russia can't maintain their own nukes and don't actually have functional ones. Yes, they actually believe we should fuck around and find out how true that is.

I can second this, many feel like it is a good gamble. And add that even if an American equivalent is worth 3 russian counterparts, it isn't good enough if it costs 10 times more.
 
So the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-con think tank that brought you such brilliant ideas as the Iraq War and supporting the "moderate rebels" (read: Islamists) in Syria, has released another great think piece to address the security issues of our times: "Let's give Ukraine nukes!" (Archive)
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These are the same fuckers who forced ukraine to give up its 300 or 600 soviet nukes back in the 90s with the promise that if the russians did anything there would be nato troops protecting them, not a bunch of old used weapons and discount helmets

And now they want to give them nukes? yeah sure
I imagine if the US DID give Ukraine tactical nukes, everyone would be talking about it on social media and the like so Russia is alerted and can bomb the depots the moment the nukes get shipped to Ukraine.
The moment this gets announced moscow would nuke kiev, no questions asked

It would be the most retarded move since the molotov pact to let nato put nukes in ukraine
when you arm huge numbers of BIPOC because when they're done killing your enemies they will simply kill you.
Nah they are actually pushing for bipocs to enlist because they know the rednecks and white trash that makes the bulk of the burger forces hate them after all the bullshit they been put through, so they want people who will stay loyal and not try the same military coups the cia does in other countries

Problem is bipoc niggers and lgtbbq faggots dont want to go and die for nothing, and they been raised and still are with the idea that murrica is a white ethnostate that should be destroyed so of course they wont go and die for the flag
I can second this, many feel like it is a good gamble.
Its really a stupid move by the russians to not do a test blast to show that "yes, they work", preferably an H-bomb off the coast of kaliningrad so all the yurocucks can see the fireworks
 
That has some concerning implications, as it doesn't cost Russia nearly as much to make effectively equivalent equipment right?

It's not that Russian equipment is equivalent to ours. It's kind of shit. On a toe-to-toe basis, we're talking about a country that can't keep an aircraft carrier running and is struggling to produce even ten fighter jets on par with what we deployed in 1996, which is nearly thirty years ago.

What's happened is the Russians are, right now, taking a fat shit on American proxy war doctrine. We learned the wrong lesson in Afghanistan in the 80s. What we should have learned is that mountain nomads who live in a desolate hellscape have more time than you have money and men. What we learned instead was that, supposedly, supercool ultratech man-portable missiles, when augmented with rugged old Soviet rifles, render the might of the Soviet military impotent. This meant a revision of our old Cold War doctrine, where we loaded every one of our proxies up with sturdy, serviceable weapons that outclassed Soviet stuff, but not by too much. From now on, we'd make ultra high-tech wunderwaffen that simply can't be trusted in the hands of an Arab or a Slav, but no big deal, you barbarians can have all the MANPADs and ATGMs you want.

What was supposed to happen in Ukraine was a repeat of Afghanistan in the 80s. Trainloads of Stingers and Javelins would simply neutralize the Russian military, sanctions would cripple its economy, and in a few years, the Russian government itself would collapse. Except, of course, it didn't happen. Stingers and Javelins, while capable, do not a victorious army make, not without hostile, immovable mountains populated by equally hostile, immovable tribes. And now that the Russians have adjusted to the presence of our fancy man-portable missiles on the battlefield, we're scrambling to find something to give the Ukrainians, and we simply don't make anything like a T-90 or a SU-27--an inexpensive, reasonably capable weapon system not laden down with top secret tech--to give them.
 
There are people who literally believe that Russia can't maintain their own nukes and don't actually have functional ones. Yes, they actually believe we should fuck around and find out how true that is.
That's assuming that Russia hasn't been quietly auditing and refurbishing it's nukes the moment it saw how batshit determined the US was in this war.
 
>CIA telling people to not commit terrorism

They could at least try to make this sound believable.
The CIA will never ever make it not convincing that they didn't blew it up themselves no matter how many times they will use Ukrainians as a shield in this case.
 
There are people who literally believe that Russia can't maintain their own nukes and don't actually have functional ones. Yes, they actually believe we should fuck around and find out how true that is.
These people have never had a gun shoved into their faces. It doesn't matter how much of a bluff it is, no one wants it to go off.
 
That's assuming that Russia hasn't been quietly auditing and refurbishing it's nukes the moment it saw how batshit determined the US was in this war.
Quietly? They have launched tons of their ICBMs. Over 1000 since the 1950s.
Their ICBM's so reliable that NASA paid Russia to launch it's astronauts in to space on them.
They can't really do aircraft carriers or other big tech but ICBM's is something they have always been solid on. Pre and post-USSR.

Them birds will fly and DC, NYC, LA, Boston, etc etc will all glow.
 
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