Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[ffo kcuF]

Seeing lots of crazy stories, gunfire in Moscow, Russian TV hacked, military moving into Rostov

Going to have to wait and see if any of its true

 

[WhiteNight]

Fuck, I forgot all about it, holy shit. Nobel Peace Prize, right! This ended up being a lesson on why appeasement doesn't work, as if we needed another one.

He didn't win the prize for his Russia/Ukraine policy or really for anything. He won for becoming president. The nomination deadline was February 1, 2009, which was 12 days after he took office, so it couldn't have been for anything he did.

Seeing lots of crazy stories, gunfire in Moscow, Russian TV hacked, military moving into Rostov

It's information overload with this Prigozhin story right now. This could be a real coup or a nothing-burger.

 

[Ghostse]

Hmm... Prigozhin apparently just declared war on the Russian MoD. He's been all bark no bite so far, kind of doubt he'll do anything for real. This apparently follows a missile strike on a Wagner camp which Prigozhin believes originated from the Russian Army.

Russian army: #2 army in the world Ukraine Russia

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672349850388529154
https://archive.is/3WH6T

America: *heads towards civil war*
Russia: Nyet! We will get there faster than lazy Americans!

I love that even during this crisis, vatniggers still find time to seethe about their true enemy, the Anglo-Saxon.

The Eternal Saxon. Keep an eye on your hacksilver, they are coming for your danegeld.

 

[draggs]

Ukrainian soldiers near Bakhmut say Wagner and part of the Russian army are fighting against the other part of the Russian army

This is definitely a habbening, how big of one I dunno

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

footage has been released of a Pantsir system achieving lock-on, yet still failing the intercept:

I thought Storm Shadows were low, slow, and large. Do their systems have trouble intercepting those types of vehicles?

 

[Ghostse]

Regarding Prigozhin, if he's not simply out of his mind, I think he might be shooting for a position in Kremlin, perhaps to replace Shoigu himself. I don't see how that would work.
But there has to be a practical reason for everything he's doing. I wouldn't want any of these people in power, they're all terrible for a number of reasons. This is a damn circus.

Upside, this is a sure acid test to see if he's a CIA asset.
Chefs coup succeeds: Not a CIA asset.
Coup fails: CIA

 

[Corette]

My prediction:
They'll run out of booze and all feel so very silly during morning after.

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

Russian channel DONTSTOPWAR reports that a 50km long Wagner-column has crossed the Novoshakhtinskaya border checkpoint into Russia reportedly heading for Novocherkassk (towards Rostov-on-Don). The column itself has not yet been visually confirmed.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672353798231080961
https://archive.is/6O9sX

 

[AgendaPoster]

Let's goooooooooooooooo civil war 2 vatnik boogaloo
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[Pocket Dragoon]

Apparently Prigozhin has been declared a foreign agent, can anyone who can read Cyrillic confirm this?
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Of course he would, and by now it's probably the truth; but I/we called it here first.

Ukraine may also be taking advantage of the situation, and these hacks are actually done by them rather than Wagner. It fits their MO, anyways.

 

[AgendaPoster]

They used his group on the frontlines; tolerated his (valid) criticisms. They sidelined him since. He's mad. He's ready for action. He's armed and has a personal army. He's dangerous and mad at the planet.

 

[Null]

I love that even during this crisis, vatniggers still find time to seethe about their true enemy, the Anglo-Saxon.

there's never a wrong time to stomp on brits tbh

 

[ffo kcuF]

https://twitter.com/301military/status/1672356554627006464

"Army General Sergei Surovikin, the Deputy Commander of the Joint Group of Forces, has issued a plea to the Wagner PMC fighters, urging them to halt their actions."

 

[World in Scarlet]

re: Moscow

At 2 a.m. on June 22 (a day and a half ago) the mobilization reserve units, separate military units, detachments of the Defense Ministry, Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, FSO and Rosgvardiya were put on alert: they received information about preparation of armed attack on governmental objects. We wrote about this yesterday (https://t.me/rybar/48803).

The 10-day "yellow alert" was declared in connection with counter-terrorist measures. All government facilities have been reinforced, and all units must be equipped with firearms and ammunition.

At the moment, the FSO and FSB together with the Interior Ministry are conducting an operation to find Ukrainian sleeper cells and sabotage and reconnaissance groups (once again: not the Wagners, but the Ukrainian GUR groups). According to our information, in the course of the operation the FSB officers managed to find two agents of the Ukrainian GUR, who gave up the entire chain of underground cells in the capital and the Moscow region. They are now looking for a couple of dozen people who form the basis of the clandestine GUR network.

source: rybar (wild mix of relatively accurate information and brazen official government lies)

On June 23, 2023, the Investigative Department of the FSB of Russia legally and reasonably initiated criminal proceedings against Prigozhin E.V. under Article 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for organizing an armed insurrection.

His actions will be given a proper legal assessment.

This crime is punishable by imprisonment for 12 to 20 years.

source: Official Telegram channel of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation


I read a speculation that this is an FSB ploy to decapitate Wagner and absorb it into the regular army. There's so much suspicious stuff going on: No video, only audio from Prigozhin. Supposedly "hacking" a TV station to then just air the same audio. The fast and coherent response by the Russian government when in the past they flailed incompetently and every government institution responded with a different message when they got genuinely surprised. Very strange all around. We'll see what we'll see.

Also the tor experience is miserable, god.

 

[Ghostse]

I read a speculation that this is an FSB ploy to decapitate Wagner and absorb it into the regular army. There's so much suspicious stuff going on: No video, only audio from Prigozhin. Supposedly "hacking" a TV station to then just air the same audio. The fast and coherent response by the Russian government when in the past they flailed incompetently and every government institution responded with a different message. Very strange all around. We'll see what we'll see.

I would fully believe its a KGB gayop, but the coordinated response makes sense even if it isn't; Chef has been a threat to Putin's power and has been staying away from 5th story windows in Moscow, so I fully believe there was a game plan prepped and distributed for if he went off the reservation.

 

[AgendaPoster]

there's never a wrong time to stomp on brits tbh

I am optimistic that you will have some serious happening to frontpage soon enough Jersh

 

[Least Concern]

Maybe Prigozhin got tipped off that he was about to be made an enemy of the state so he decided to aim for the top since he figures if he fails, the consequences will be the same either way.

Or maybe some combination of Ukraine and NATO made him and his men a better offer than what the Russian MOD was offering. Constantly whining about artillery shells? We'll give you all the damn shells you want, so long as you turn your guns 180 degrees.

Let's see if anything comes of it or if it's just a nothingburger wrapped in misinformation.

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

More info suggesting that the Wagner columns on the road are real. Surovikin message on telegram tells Wagner to "Stop the columns, return them to the points of permanent deployment."

 

[In the Dollhouse]

I am not going to get my hopes up just yet but the ghost of 1917 coming back to end this war would be the most poetic thing ever (less than a hour ago I was scoffing but things keep escalating and I am warily optimistic)

 

[Null]

crazy this happens the one day im actually looking at the RU-UA news.

The Soviet Union died at complete random and to the surprise of the rest of the world, it could happen again.