Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[ditto]

Shit is getting real. Putin has deployed the jannies.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Reading some comments that said this has to do with Sergei Shoigu saying all volunteers/mercs had to sign a contract with the MOD by July 1st to integrate them into the Russian military?

 

[Midwit]

Shit is getting real. Putin has deployed the jannies.

Imagine how much easier it would be if he allowed them to use 3rd party apps.

 

[Male Idiot]

This is a very common occurence in a WAAAGH. When a nob feels like he is ignored, he will smack the gobs of other nobs to impress the boss.

If the hohol offensive broke down due to mismanagement, and the serbs and kosovo muslims chimped at each other, this would be the Year of the Slav.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Saw new video from the MOD building in Rostov and there is a few soldiers kind of just standing around and a city or town worker is sweeping up stuff off the sidewalk lol. Clown world is just the gift that keeps on giving. Also some are reporting that in the videos we have seen, there have Wagner soldiers but also some soldiers were wearing patches that belong to the Russian National Guard.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

how the fuck can russia deal with this when they have an active open front on the west

I'm not sure the Ookies have much left in armor to throw at them.

 

[Lisdexamfetamine ℞]

Message taken from a Russian telegram and photos from a different channel wagner that normally just posts pictures and video of holhols getting excuted or their corpses

Spoiler: NSFW

"️Главное к этой минуте о попытке вооруженного мятежа, заявленной Пригожиным:

— от имени Пригожина в Telegram появилось сообщение о том, что силы МО РФ якобы нанесли удар по лагерю ЧВК «Вагнер», также было опубликовано видео, якобы снятое в лагере после удара;

— в МО заявили, что и сообщение, и видео не соответствуют действительности, в ведомстве назвали это информационной провокацией;

— также в МО сообщили, что Вооружённые силы РФ продолжают выполнение боевых задач на линии соприкосновения в зоне СВО;

— Песков заявил, что Путин проинформирован о ситуации, принимаются все необходимые меры;

— НАК опубликовал заявление: утверждения, которые распространяются от имени Пригожина, не имеют под собой никаких оснований;

— ФСБ России возбудило уголовное дело в отношении Пригожина по ст. 279 Уголовного кодекса по факту организации вооружённого мятежа. По этой статье предусмотрено наказание в виде лишения свободы на срок от 12 до 20 лет;

— в ЦОС ФСБ также назвали информацию о якобы ударах МО по лагерю ЧВК «Вагнер» провокацией, заявив, что уголовное дело по факту призыва к мятежу со стороны Пригожина возбуждено в связи с серьёзностью ситуации и угрозой эскалации;

— ЦОС ФСБ призвал бойцов ЧВК «Вагнер» не выполнять преступные приказы Пригожина и принять меры к его задержанию;

— к бойцам ЧВК обратился Суровикин: мы прошли тяжелый путь, призываю остановиться, подчиниться воле президента, решить все проблемы мирным путём;

— также с обращением выступил первый замначальника ГРУ ГШ генерал-лейтенант Владимир Алексеев: какие бы ни были у вас намерения, это удар в спину стране и президенту — большего удара по имиджу России, вооруженным силам придумать нельзя, такая провокация могла быть сделана только врагами страны;

— в МО сообщили, что воспользовавшись провокацией Пригожина, киевский режим на Артёмовском тактическом направлении готовится к наступлению. Военнослужащие Южной группировки войск наносят поражение противнику ударами авиации и артиллерии;

— в эфире Первого канала назвали видео, в котором показаны якобы последствия удара по лагерю ЧВК, постановкой;

— генпрокурор Краснов доложил Путину об уголовном деле из-за попытки организации вооружённого мятежа, также сообщил о законности его возбуждения;

— Песков заявил, что Минобороны, ФСБ, МВД, Росгвардия круглосуточно докладывают Путину о принимаемых мерах по его поручениям в связи с попыткой мятежа;

— МЧС Ростовской области опровергло сообщения о том, что в регионе вводят комендантский час;

— правительство Воронежской области сообщило о движении колонны военной техники по дороге М-4 Дон и попросило временно не пользоваться этой трассой и индивидуальными транспортными средствами;

— ростовские СМИ опубликовали видео, снятое у штаба ЮВО, сообщив, что, помимо него, неизвестные люди в камуфляже оцепили отдел полиции на Буденновском проспекте, здание главка МВД, УФСБ, администрации города;

— губернатор Ростовской области призвал воздержаться от поездок в центр Ростова-на-Дону и по возможности не покидать свои дома. "
"️The main thing for this minute about the attempted armed rebellion announced by Prigogine:

- on behalf of Prigozhin, a message appeared in Telegram that the forces of the Russian Defense Ministry allegedly struck a blow at the Wagner PMC camp, and a video allegedly filmed in the camp after the strike was also published;

- the Ministry of Defense stated that both the message and the video did not correspond to reality, the department called it an informational provocation;

- the Defense Ministry also reported that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to carry out combat missions on the line of contact in the NVO zone;

- Peskov said that Putin was informed about the situation, all necessary measures are being taken;

- The NAC published a statement: the allegations that are being circulated on behalf of Prigozhin have no basis;

- The FSB of Russia opened a criminal case against Prigozhin under Art. 279 of the Criminal Code on the fact of organizing an armed rebellion. This article provides for punishment in the form of imprisonment for a term of 12 to 20 years;

- The FSB CSO also called the information about the alleged strikes of the Defense Ministry on the Wagner PMC camp a provocation, stating that a criminal case had been opened on the fact of Prigozhin’s call to rebellion due to the seriousness of the situation and the threat of escalation;

- The FSB CSO called on the fighters of the PMC "Wagner" not to carry out the criminal orders of Prigozhin and take measures to detain him;

- Surovikin addressed the PMC fighters: we have come a hard way, I urge you to stop, obey the will of the president, solve all problems peacefully;

- the first deputy head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff, Lieutenant-General Vladimir Alekseev, also made an appeal: whatever your intentions, this is a blow to the back of the country and the president - a bigger blow to the image of Russia, the armed forces cannot be imagined, such a provocation could only be made by the enemies of the country ;

- The Ministry of Defense reported that, taking advantage of Prigozhin's provocation, the Kiev regime in the Artyomovsk tactical direction is preparing for an offensive. Servicemen of the Southern Group of Forces defeat the enemy with air and artillery strikes;

- on the air of Channel One, they called the video, which allegedly shows the consequences of a strike on a PMC camp, a production;

- Attorney General Krasnov reported to Putin about the criminal case due to an attempt to organize an armed rebellion, also reported on the legality of its initiation;

- Peskov said that the Ministry of Defense, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Russian Guard report around the clock to Putin on the measures taken on his instructions in connection with the attempted rebellion;

- The Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Rostov region denied reports that a curfew was being introduced in the region;

- The government of the Voronezh region reported on the movement of a column of military equipment along the M-4 Don road and asked to temporarily not use this route and individual vehicles;

- Rostov media published a video filmed at the headquarters of the Southern Military District, reporting that, in addition to it, unknown people in camouflage cordoned off the police department on Budyonnovsky Prospekt, the building of the head office of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service, and the city administration;

- The governor of the Rostov region urged to refrain from traveling to the center of Rostov-on-Don and, if possible, not to leave their homes."

 

[Midwit]

Could you provide a translation for those who don't understand the Black Speech of Mordor?
-edit-
Cheers mate.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Could you provide a translation for those who don't understand the Black Speech of Mordor?

And a source.

 

[Lisdexamfetamine ℞]

Could you provide a translation for those who don't understand the Black Speech of Mordor?
-edit-
Cheers mate.

Updated sorry friend here is more from what I consider Wagners public relations group as it provides English and Russian releases lol

"
Доброе утро с вами корреспондент 161.ru Григория Махов мы сейчас находимся на пересечении улиц Пушкинской И будённовского в городе ростове-на-дону. Здесь мы можем наблюдать следующее два танка стоят напротив здания штаба Южного военного округа периодически, как минимум дважды. Я наблюдал э группы военных с белыми повязками на руках, заходящих в здание Южного военного округа. Предположительно. Это бойцы чувака. Ладно тем временем вокруг, а ситуация следующая очень много зевак очень много любопытных людей. Которым интересно узнать, чем закончится не только эта ночь и это утро. Вся улица будённовского, то есть, проспект будённовского занято бойцами. Пока что ситуация крайне не понятная...


Good morning with you, correspondent of 161.ru Grigory Makhov, we are now at the intersection of Pushkinskaya and Budyonnovsky streets in the city of Rostov-on-Don. Here we can observe the following two tanks standing in front of the building of the headquarters of the Southern Military District periodically, at least twice. I observed groups of military men with white bandages on their hands entering the building of the Southern Military District. Presumably. These are the dude's fighters. Okay, in the meantime, around, and the situation is as follows: a lot of onlookers, a lot of curious people. Who are interested to know how not only this night and this morning will end. The whole street of Budyonnovsky, that is, Budyonnovsky Avenue, is occupied by fighters. So far, the situation is extremely unclear ...

"

"Согласно имеющейся у нас информации НГШ Валерий Герасимов сбежал из ростовского штаба вместе с верными ему людьми, оставив отдуваться за себя и вести переговоры своих подчиненых. Сам Герасимов настолько напуган, что на данный момент отсиживается в гражданской квартире у своих знакомых в Ростове.


According to the information we have, Valery Gerasimov escaped from the Rostov headquarters along with people loyal to him, leaving his subordinates to take the rap for themselves and negotiate. Gerasimov himself is so frightened that at the moment he is holed up in a civilian apartment with his acquaintances in Rostov.
"


(Note the one below was posted first)
Очень бодрое утро наступило в Сибири, суета на юге - думаю мы становимся свидетелями интересной партии к сожалению результат которой мы не знаем.

Вы когда нибудь пробовали задержать человека, у которого есть личная армия с бронетехникой и авиацией, которого поддерживает большинство населения и армии?

Это всё выходит из под контроля.

Можно столько дров наломать...


A very cheerful morning has come in Siberia, bustle in the south - I think we are witnessing an interesting game, unfortunately the result of which we do not know.

Have you ever tried to detain a person who has a personal army with armored vehicles and aircraft, who is supported by the majority of the population and the army?

It's all out of control.

You can cut so much wood...



Also I figured something was up when people were no longer able to send messages in one of the Wagner chats

 

[ditto]

Haven't seen this posted yet. What triggered the current shitshow.

The aftermath of the alleged attack by Russian forces on the Wagner camp.

 

[The Ghost of Kviv]

What the fuck is even going on, holy shit, is Russia going to coup itself or is this 6D Propaganda from the Kremlin, I don't even fucking know.

If this is as real as it is presented, I believe Putin is dead. It's now a power struggle.

If I was an American glowie, I'd be pushing for Putin to make a public address to verify. All bulletins and reports we've heard are from others in the Russian ministry, the source has yet to be Putin himself.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Goddam lol.

The /chug/ threads have a special theme for the Wagner headhoncho and playing that one song from Metal Gear Solid 5.

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/431833368

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/431836218

Its that "Im going nuclear" song by Mike Oldfield.

 

[Lisdexamfetamine ℞]

And a source.

Original warning message about curfew from this channel.

Any video or photos and the 2nd posts messages including the ones below were from this group or the main public Wagner telegram group

"

ЧВК Вагнер в штабе ЮВО в Ростове
@wagner_group_pmc

PMC Wagner at the headquarters of the Southern Military District in Rostov
@wagner_group_pmc"

 

[just a banana]

What'd he say?

https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1672468313090457601

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Prigozhin has plenty of reason to do this. The sheer incompetence like failing to bomb rear-line infrastructure and even keeping up a few pre-existing deals between Russia and Ukraine was simply criminal once this was devolved into an East vs. West proxy war slog. I hope he can dismiss some of those clowns in the MOD. Unfortunately I doubt it will happen since the people controlling Russia are too timid and cowardly for that. They got themselves into this mess and keep thinking they can easily extract themselves from it. They can't. There's no future for Russia but victory or total destruction.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I believe Putin is dead.

Putins lack of address is weird, but I doubt he's dead.
During 1991 wasn't the Soviet Premier whisked away to a remote vacation home for his "protection", I.E to stop him from interfering with the seizure of power? Something like that could be happening now.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If Russia declare Wagner as a rogue state, while behind the scenes supplying them with info and weapons, similar to CIA and Al-qaeda/isis/name a coup, could Wagner do some really shady shit seems it wouldn't be linked to Russia?

TL;DR - could Wagner become a rogue state like ISIS, take control of parts of Ukraine, 'remove' Russian forces from it and 'end the war'?

 

[ditto]

Prigozhin has plenty of reason to do this.

He's probably justified, but doubt this will achieve an outcome he wants.

Putins lack of address is weird, but I doubt he's dead.

It's still only 8:30 in the morning. I doubt Putin will have much to say until after Prigozhin is in custody.

 

[Jump]

Putins lack of address is weird, but I doubt he's dead.
During 1991 wasn't the Soviet Premier whisked away to a remote vacation home for his "protection", I.E to stop him from interfering with the seizure of power? Something like that could be happening now.

He is likely just waiting to see if Prigozhin succeeds in taking out who ever he is after in the MoD or not.