Based grandma texts a TiFs father this. She's so on point it made me laugh how a normie was able to pick apart a TIF so quickly.
Li'l pooner should 'feel seen' after that text message. Grandma knows exactly what she's doing and why she's doing it, and that she's basically a no-personality teenager latching onto an identity because it's easier than forming her own.
Based mother throws troon logic back at TiF daughter.
Don't people tattoo the names of dead relatives on their bodies? That's a thing, right? The troon calls it a "deadname", right? Okay, there's another argument for mom's tattoo.
That was exactly the argument I thought of, but the mother's isn't just throwing troon logic back in her daughter's face, she's telling her a truth that troons all hate but secretly know, their biggest fear it takes literal insanity to shake. It's that no one thinks of them being their preferred gender, no one at all, despite all the playacting online and handmaidens cooing about them being True and Honest men/women. And that people are generally polite and mind their own business and have learned that it's far easier to not intentionally anger the crazy person who thinks they're in the wrong body, and that the people closest to them will pretend they totally accept them as their preferred gender, but they don't.
Because, as the mother rightly points out, recognising someone's pronouns and treating them the way troons want to be treated is purely decided by the individuals in question, and without any reason to respect that, they don't have any reason to go along with these delusions. It's why you see such an outcry every time a troon gets misgendered, even if they've done something horrible - because it shows that if you lose the respect of society, society won't defend your choice to live your delusions, and the whole trans insanity is built on sand.
And it's why the joy of peak trans is watching people losing their inhibitions at having to play pretend about the crazy people. MtFs are always going to be iffy, because they often provoke an inherent fear response in anyone who comes across them - as the serial killer sidebar shows, we've learned to regard an obvious man in poorly fitting womens' clothes and bad makeup as a threat, and rightly so. They're violent nutters, and in general people don't want the 'IT'S MA'AM' experience.
But overall, the mother, like the grandmother from the post I referred to earlier, are both completely correct about the bullshit their daughters are doing, and so of course both of them went off to whine on the internet about it. It's the sort of thing I think about when detransitioners, inevitably women, pop up - these aren't girls that can be reasoned with, they're getting too much support online and attention in general by being pooners, and several years of mandatory therapy and gatekeeping will outlast pretty much all of their desire to transition. The professional encouragers are definitely guilty of malpractice and evil, but one of the few consistent ways to prevent a girl from fucking up her body with surgery and drugs like this is an enforced waiting period until they grow the fuck up a bit.