Discuss porn's impact of relationships, men, and the difference between jacking it to online porn compared to jacking it to a magazine

[Otterly]

Said she got no RL approaches from Men

I mean, I’m not in gym wear on social media and I never would be even when I was super fit in my younger days…
But yes, approaches from men. Most women I know never did get hit on a lot. The power balance from my youth was very much different. Women wanted to look good, for other women and for men, and men seemed (at least when we were young) to be fairly timid about asking girls out. The young guys I knew were all quite shy like that even if they were outgoing on other ways. I feel like the whole perception of how men are ‘presented to women’ has changed. By that I mean how women are encouraged to see men. Now it seems to be that all men are utter arseholes to be exploited, or they’re all the Andrew tate type. And I think the reverse is true as well. Women as a concept are presented to men as something they’re both entitled to and simultaneously told they can’t have. The online stuff is all ‘women all whores, you deserve this strange non existent trad wife but in the mean time keep jacking off to this violent porn and subscribe to only fans.’ It’s so contradictory and so confusing.
I’m not talking about the outliers - there’s always been deadbeat and violent men like there’s always been awful women. But they used to be seen as something to avoid not to emulate
It’s just more social engineering isn’t it?

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Jesus christ, the amount of fucking daft assumptions, like how when I say old I really mean fat.

People keep complaining that women have too high expectations, I think you need to really think about what that means. Look at what porn has done to sexual relations between men and women. The majority of women do not want to be choked, spat on, hit, pressured into oral or anal, or otherwise degraded. That's what they get if they keep dating, so they stop. That's not 'too high expectations' or 'overvaluing yourself'.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Jesus christ, the amount of fucking daft assumptions, like how when I say old I really mean fat.

People keep complaining that women have too high expectations, I think you need to really think about what that means. Look at what porn has done to sexual relations between men and women. The majority of women do not want to be choked, spat on, hit, pressured into oral or anal, or otherwise degraded. That's what they get if they keep dating, so they stop. That's not 'too high expectations' or 'overvaluing yourself'.

Really? I must've had a bad run of luck. My first girlfriend told me I wasn't strangling her properly. My second girlfriend was obsessed with anal. My third girlfriend had rape fantasies. My forth girlfriend told me I wasn't into weird enough fetishes for her.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Really? I must've had a bad run of luck. My first girlfriend told me I wasn't strangling her properly. My second girlfriend was obsessed with anal. My third girlfriend had rape fantasies. My forth girlfriend told me I wasn't into weird enough fetishes for her.

I wouldn't call it a run of bad luck, I would call it get a fucking therapist and figure out why you keep dating women with BPD.

Literally this entire thread I have been saying that regular women withdraw and all that is left is the women who have stockholmed themselves into being into this shit. That it's a minority of women over all is obscured by bots,the media, and porn.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I wouldn't call it a run of bad luck, I would call it get a fucking therapist and figure out why you keep dating women with BPD.

Literally this entire thread I have been saying that regular women withdraw and all that is left is the women who have stockholmed themselves into being into this shit. That it's a minority of women over all is obscured by bots,the media, and porn.

Well the end result is the same. As others have said, the Men have bad experiences in the workplace, in academia, in dating, they wonder why they are participating in a society thats seems to be out to end them. They don't only leave dating, they leave society altogether.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Well the end result is the same. As others have said, the Men have bad experiences in the workplace, in academia, in dating, they wonder why they are participating in a society thats seems to be out to end them. They don't only leave dating, they leave society altogether.

I know. At no point have I disagreed with that.

Their dads sold them down the river for the chance to wank to playboy, and now they're doing the same to the next generation but with xvideos, and the whole time all of them are saying everything's completely out of their control. It's insane that KFers will constantly spout that there's a conspiracy to control you in every industry or institution, except porn.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Their dads sold them down the river for the chance to wank to playboy, and now they're doing the same to the next generation but with xvideos, and the whole time all of them are saying everything's completely out of their control. It's insane that KFers will constantly spout that there's a conspiracy to control you in every industry or institution, except porn.

Porn is free. Any type of fetish porn you want is free. Which means it's accessible by children.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/dec/15/billie-eilish-says-watching-porn-gave-her-nightmares-and-destroyed-my-brain

The only other times porn was free was during military psychological assaults. Palestine. Waco Texas.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Porn is free. Any type of fetish porn you want is free. Which means it's accessible by children.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/dec/15/billie-eilish-says-watching-porn-gave-her-nightmares-and-destroyed-my-brain

The only other times porn was free was during military psychological assaults. Palestine. Waco Texas.

Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's clearly deliberate, but it's almost impossible to find a guy who doesn't watch porn, who has any intention of stopping, or is willing to recognise it as a problem.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's clearly deliberate, but it's almost impossible to find a guy who doesn't watch porn, who has any intention of stopping, or is willing to recognise it as a problem.

It's not about guys and porn. It's about accesiblity of porn to everyone and the severity of porn. Guys used to jack off to the lingerie section of the shopping catalogue 50 years ago. You aren't going to stop the objectificaton and sexualization of Women by Men. They are designed to find attractive Women objectively sexually attractive.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

It's not about guys and porn. It's about accesiblity of porn to everyone and the severity of porn. Guys used to jack off to the lingerie section of the shopping catalogue 50 years ago. You aren't going to stop the objectificaton and sexualization of Women by Men. They are designed to find attractive Women objectively sexually attractive.

We're literally both agreeing that porn is the problem but you're trying to nitpick shit I am not even saying because you need me to be wrong to 'win'. I don't expect men to stop finding women attractive.

you refuse to address it.

Porn is the problem, and the producers and consumers, primarily male, are the ones refusing to address it. I agree that women will be the collateral damage if the problem continues though. I said this in my first post and the whole way through.

I know you want a woman to shit on because it makes you feel big, but it's not actually helping the problem either, just your egos. Again, it's what gets you called unfuckable hate nerds in the first place.

 

[Otterly]

It is healthy for men to find women sexually attractive. It’s no big deal to be sneaking a peek at the lingerie pages. It’s the 24/7 free violent stuff and it’s availability and saturation that’s the issue.

The majority of women do not want to be choked, spat on, hit, pressured into oral or anal, or otherwise degraded. That's what they get if they keep dating,

I’m of an age where peers have got divorced, and are now trying to meet new people. All the women are horrified becasue men expect them to be clean shaven, and do all this stuff and for them, maybe they’ve only been with one person before, it’s horrific. I would hate that. That’s been a big change. The men have all gone for younger women.

Really? I must've had a bad run of luck. My first girlfriend told me I wasn't strangling her properly. My second girlfriend was obsessed with anal. My third girlfriend had rape fantasies. My forth girlfriend told me I wasn't into weird enough fetishes for her.

Sir you are sticking your dick in crazy. It never ends well
We’ve had all the rules and boundaries and traditions that held us together broken and subverted and now we are all wondering why everyone is falling apart. There’s a cohort of young men deeply alienated, and that’s been an issue in history every time it’s happened. Only now it’s not just our young men it’s young men from alien cultures too. It will not end well. The porn and trannyism is to pacify you. We’ve also got a generation of completely lost young women, told that any want to be a mother is a sad boring and lethal thing and they should be corporate girlboss instead.
It is t working for us. Our rulers hate us.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

but you're trying to nitpick shit I am not even saying because you need me to be wrong to 'win'.

Porn is the problem, and the producers and consumers, primarily male, are the ones refusing to address it.

I just addressed it.

Sir you are sticking your dick in crazy. It never ends well

Whos telling you not to stick your dick in crazy as a teen? Who is disseminating this info? Saying any Woman could be crazy is virtually verboten in modern society. God help you if you are raised by a single Mother. You're done.

 

[AgendaPoster]

jannied off unfuckable hate nerds
gotta keep that important discussion on topic

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

It is healthy for men to find women sexually attractive. It’s no big deal to be sneaking a peek at the lingerie pages. It’s the 24/7 free violent stuff and it’s availability and saturation that’s the issue.

This kind of mentality kills people, ive personally witnessed people whose lives have been destroyed by porn because i've seen it all and let me tell you it aint pretty. I used to work at a smoking clinic, 5 years on the job helping those in need because some people need the help that they need, while working there the majority of smokers were also masturbators and the reason they got into masturbating is because while trying to quit smoking they tried to replace it with another addiction, that addiction was masturbation. When you look at the screen and see some done-up whore with big boob, your mind can't take that, in the wild the only time a man got to see boob was right before sex and sex meant children. You get hard at the sight of big boob because because 99% of the time when your ancestors saw big boob they were about to have a child. Now, I tell you what boy, when you're online, on the kiwi farms porn thread looking at the endless your digital online haram with nonstop big boob and thighs, your brain thinks you're seeing a new partner eve ewbwb wbweb and you can't your're not meant to take it because we evolved, as human beings, to find that attractive. So i'll tell you what boy, next time you think you're masturbating just for fun, what you're actually doing is soaking in the warm glow of a dopamine rush, and that dopamine rush isn't even good for you, you must remember this: masturbation does not give you any genuine pleasure or relief because masturbation doesn't give you any genuine pleasure or relief, secondly, im the only person here willing to tell you the truth about masturbation because im not afraid of the truth, as my daddy always told me: you can hide the truth but it aint going away, son. My ancestors claimed this land with their blood and I'll cover it with my blood again before it gets further away from me, but all you dirty cum dopamine addicted limp wristed sissy boys can only think about your next dopamine hit and not whether this land will survive into the next thee ehehewwwhw century, just like nazi germany, we're being threatened by radical extremists at home and abroad, America is under attack but no one will stand up to defend Her because y'all be gooning to fart porn 19 hours a day, the other 5 hours you're reading about your favourite lolcow.

 

[Lichen Bark]

It’s just more social engineering isn’t it?

The heavy push for incest porn on the front pages of major porn websites really reeks of trying to shape peoples sexual desires. The fact that it has been used in war time as a weapon really gets the noggin joggin. Are the people who create a majority of pornography benevolent, or do they have a bone to pick? A chip on their shoulder against a certain part of the population?

 

[AnOminous]

you what boy, next time you think you're masturbating just for fun, what you're actually doing is soaking in the warm glow of a dopamine rush, and that dopamine rush isn't even good for you, you must remember this: masturbation does not give you any genuine pleasure or relief because masturbatio

You are the gayest person who has ever posted on this site. Fucking homo.

 

[Absolutego]

The heavy push for incest porn on the front pages of major porn websites really reeks of trying to shape peoples sexual desires. The fact that it has been used in war time as a weapon really gets the noggin joggin. Are the people who create a majority of pornography benevolent, or do they have a bone to pick? A chip on their shoulder against a certain part of the population?

Here's the thing Jack; I guarantee you the vast majority of porn consumers forward past all the StepBro bullshit to get to the people fucking, so whatever psyop you think is being produced barely matters.

 

[ITK]

I think the laws should be democratically changed such that producers and distributors of pornography will be investigated, given a fair trail and due process with legal representation and then calmly and humanely executed by firing squad by agents of the duely elected government.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Here's the thing Jack; I guarantee you the vast majority of porn consumers forward past all the StepBro bullshit to get to the people fucking, so whatever psyop you think is being produced barely matters.

>I skip all the incest content so it doesn't matter
Ok, but why is it even a thing? Any ideas? What about young impressionable Jimmy who just snagged some time with the family computer/got his first "smartphone"? Will it shape his perception of things?

Personally, I think it's to mess with the "family unit" more. It normalizes incest, just like violent porn normalizes violent sexual tendencies.

 

[Gunter Hatherer]

Back in the 1970s there was a big national debate about legalizing hard core porn. People in power of all persuasions really did serious discussion in those days. Well at least sometimes and this was one of those times.

There were some very nuanced positions, but everybody in the debate implicitly made the same two assumptions. Nobody mentioned this, because the assumptions were just so totally obvious nobody even thought of it.

1) That porn would cost money.
2) That you would have to leave the house to get hold of porn.

All the disputations about regulation and zoning and what exactly to allow. All the studies that proved porn was harmless. but also the studies that proved the opposite. The point that a porn store would attract the wrong kind of people, etc.

Whereas all the discussion nowadays is based on the effect of porn being free on tap. Well modulo whatever basic internet access costs, but you'd have that anyway, right?

It's not the difference in medium, it's the difference in ubiquitousness.