Netflix's The Witcher series

i dont know why this is happening, but modern media just have characters scream the word "fuck" and think its good writing these days.
Not just "fuck", it's "fuckity-fuck-fuck".
I can't believe ive heard that same sentence uttered in more than five different shows by now

It made more sense though coming from the Sopranos because
1) It (or rather season 1 of the show) was executively produced by Scorsese and
2) It essentially followed the style of Scorsese previous works making the mafia come across as a bunch of politically incorrect wise guys as opposed to Cuppola's/Puzo Machiavellian take on the mafia.
Despite the overal left leaning sentiment in mainstream media, Sopranos came close to being dangerously based sometimes, without needing to go full on Ye Mode


Thing is, talk to any italian-american about the topic and they'll respond almost the exact same words!
 
For those that read the books, isn't the point of Elves is that they were previously in rule and abused everyone, only to get deposed and then larp as freedom fighters against the very people they abused?
The elves are generally just as bad as humans, yes. A dwarf points out at one point that the elves weren't exactly kind to the other races back before the humans came, and there's even evil elves who went to another universe and enslaved all the humans there. Dwarves and halflings don't seem to struggle anywhere near as hard as them to integrate into a human dominated world, and despite all the belly-aching, non-humans are generally fine ignoring the occasional racist.

The games even go a step further and heavily imply that the elves completely genocided an even more ancient race long before the story started.

Basically, around elves watch yourselves.
 
The elves are generally just as bad as humans, yes. A dwarf points out at one point that the elves weren't exactly kind to the other races back before the humans came, and there's even evil elves who went to another universe and enslaved all the humans there. Dwarves and halflings don't seem to struggle anywhere near as hard as them to integrate into a human dominated world, and despite all the belly-aching, non-humans are generally fine ignoring the occasional racist.

The games even go a step further and heavily imply that the elves completely genocided an even more ancient race long before the story started.

Basically, around elves watch yourselves.
Aen Elle are the other dimensional/world elves that have straight out gone full mega hitler. They're the ones who regularly raid the human world for fun and profit. They also conquered a number of other worlds then genocided their inhabitants. This includes other sorts of humans and unicorns. Yes really they genocided and enslaved unicorns. Oh and they think the elves who remain on the main world are also lesser and just as deserving of scorn once they're done with the rest.

Witcher elves are snide and elitist at the best of times, at the worst they're virulently racist, violent and elven supremacist. It's a commonly ignored point that the 'non-human freedom fighters' the Scoia'tael are almost wholly elves. There's a small number of dwarves, no halfings, and absolutely no gnomes.

The same Scoia'tael who usually provoke racial pogroms and riots by slaughtering any human that steps foot too far off the beaten path then hanging their butchered parts from the trees. They're also usually being funded by Nilfgaardian money to continue building strife in the northern realms.
 
The games even go a step further and heavily imply that the elves completely genocided an even more ancient race long before the story started.

It's been too long since I read the books to know where its from, but the conjunction event from 1300 years ago was just the most recent one. The one that brought the elves to the world put them in one dominated by dwarves and other races. The reason that the older races get along well enough with with humans is because so they were almost made extinct by the elven genocide campaign, so close that there's literally no evidence of what culture of their was like beforehand. There's no surviving architecture, language, or religion, all unlike the elves.
 
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Gonna go full spergatron on the Witcher lore but I got curious after posting in the thread. Turns out Elves are in fact even bigger fuckers than I recalled. Fair warning if you don't give a shit about the universe lore this is just 🧩 speaks, Witcher Edition.

It's been too long since I read the books to know where its from, but the conjunction event from 1300 years ago was just the most recent one. The one that brought the elves to the world put them in one dominated by dwarves and other races. The reason that the older races get along well enough with with humans is because so they were almost made extinct by the elven genocide campaign, so close that there's literally no evidence of what culture of their was like beforehand. There's no surviving architecture, language, or religion, all unlike the elves.

Pretty much every race with the exception of apparently Gnomes were not originally on the 'witcher world' (I don't recall what the hell its even named). Elves before they split into two major factions and Dwarves arrived because at the time they had more magic with the ability to open pathways into damn near any world they wanted.

The elves arrived then immediately warred with the Gnomes and Dwarves. Then did exactly what would later happen to them to a race of lizard people called the Vran. They straight out began conquering them, capturing some for study and use in genetic experiments. They also invented a virus to sterilize the Vran .. and also some of their own elven people if not properly vaccinated first. They then proceeded to build 'their' elven cities atop the ruins of the Vran's own cities. This was intentionally hidden by the elves but some very small amounts of proof were found both by humans and other researchers like cages filled with the bones of the Vran, statues of the Vran in previously not uncovered rooms and the like.

The elves naturally claim the Vran just 'mysteriously died out we have no idea' despite written evidence and the like being found by a Zerrakanian researcher. Aforementioned researcher was forced to flee back to their home country to avoid being killed by angry elves.

The conjunction that brought about the humans more or less limited how much the then unified elves could travel about. This is why those with the ability to freely travel or open their own portals were so valued and in some cases just straight up forced to reproduce. Ciri's ancestor had this same fate and due to stupidly long elven lifespans it even involved the same people.

Somewhere around this time Humans arrived and the Aen Elle basically decided 'Nah fuck this' and began enslaving unicorns who have the ability to open portals to other locations, they left and turned into the genuinely evil, dimensional hopping bastards they are for the rest of the story. They even at one point run into what is thought to be the original world of humans and genocide them off of it. They frequently return to the 'Witcher' world to capture both Aen Sidhe (the 'normal' elves) and humans for slaves, for profit, and because they view them with disdain.

The Aen Sidhe get the very same treatment they gave the Vran, except in this case they can actually produce viable off-spring with humans. They actually do so easier than with their own race because apparently something about human hormones makes elven reproduction actually work more efficiently. Even many hundreds of years before the books and the games all of the 'Elves' are at this point usually carrying a goodly amount of human blood. The reverse is also true for humans, nearly all have some elven ancestry. This is why the Aen Sidhe are comparatively tiny, lithe, and narrow shouldered compared to the giant Aen Elle.

Humans start out-fucking, out fighting, and out thriving the elves. This is partially because Aen Sidhe straight out didn't know what the fuck farming is or would do. They only relied wholly on whatever was naturally in the forests. So with humans not only being able to more efficiently breed with even these partial elves and with most young Aen Sidhe being the sort to join 'non-human resistance' groups .. the elves basically are doomed to die out. Even better at no point do the elves ever stop being arrogant fucks, no they refuse to learn from anyone else and think their ways are best.

Allegedly in the future the Aen Sidhe also flee the world (potentially via the help of Ciri) but not before DFEing literally ANYTHING involving them, or their appearance. How many remained alive is unclear but its likely they were a curiosity in history by that point.

TL;DR - Aen Sidhe got their just desserts then cucked so hard by humans that they fled reality the second it was practical to do so. They made life miserable for everyone involved with them.
 
Gonna go full spergatron on the Witcher lore but I got curious after posting in the thread. Turns out Elves are in fact even bigger fuckers than I recalled. Fair warning if you don't give a shit about the universe lore this is just 🧩 speaks, Witcher Edition.



Pretty much every race with the exception of apparently Gnomes were not originally on the 'witcher world' (I don't recall what the hell its even named). Elves before they split into two major factions and Dwarves arrived because at the time they had more magic with the ability to open pathways into damn near any world they wanted.

The elves arrived then immediately warred with the Gnomes and Dwarves. Then did exactly what would later happen to them to a race of lizard people called the Vran. They straight out began conquering them, capturing some for study and use in genetic experiments. They also invented a virus to sterilize the Vran .. and also some of their own elven people if not properly vaccinated first. They then proceeded to build 'their' elven cities atop the ruins of the Vran's own cities. This was intentionally hidden by the elves but some very small amounts of proof were found both by humans and other researchers like cages filled with the bones of the Vran, statues of the Vran in previously not uncovered rooms and the like.

The elves naturally claim the Vran just 'mysteriously died out we have no idea' despite written evidence and the like being found by a Zerrakanian researcher. Aforementioned researcher was forced to flee back to their home country to avoid being killed by angry elves.

The conjunction that brought about the humans more or less limited how much the then unified elves could travel about. This is why those with the ability to freely travel or open their own portals were so valued and in some cases just straight up forced to reproduce. Ciri's ancestor had this same fate and due to stupidly long elven lifespans it even involved the same people.

Somewhere around this time Humans arrived and the Aen Elle basically decided 'Nah fuck this' and began enslaving unicorns who have the ability to open portals to other locations, they left and turned into the genuinely evil, dimensional hopping bastards they are for the rest of the story. They even at one point run into what is thought to be the original world of humans and genocide them off of it. They frequently return to the 'Witcher' world to capture both Aen Sidhe (the 'normal' elves) and humans for slaves, for profit, and because they view them with disdain.

The Aen Sidhe get the very same treatment they gave the Vran, except in this case they can actually produce viable off-spring with humans. They actually do so easier than with their own race because apparently something about human hormones makes elven reproduction actually work more efficiently. Even many hundreds of years before the books and the games all of the 'Elves' are at this point usually carrying a goodly amount of human blood. The reverse is also true for humans, nearly all have some elven ancestry. This is why the Aen Sidhe are comparatively tiny, lithe, and narrow shouldered compared to the giant Aen Elle.

Humans start out-fucking, out fighting, and out thriving the elves. This is partially because Aen Sidhe straight out didn't know what the fuck farming is or would do. They only relied wholly on whatever was naturally in the forests. So with humans not only being able to more efficiently breed with even these partial elves and with most young Aen Sidhe being the sort to join 'non-human resistance' groups .. the elves basically are doomed to die out. Even better at no point do the elves ever stop being arrogant fucks, no they refuse to learn from anyone else and think their ways are best.

Allegedly in the future the Aen Sidhe also flee the world (potentially via the help of Ciri) but not before DFEing literally ANYTHING involving them, or their appearance. How many remained alive is unclear but its likely they were a curiosity in history by that point.

TL;DR - Aen Sidhe got their just desserts then cucked so hard by humans that they fled reality the second it was practical to do so. They made life miserable for everyone involved with them.
I loved reading this backstory as I read the novels. You had wizards just letting their genetically modified creatures rampage every now and then on the unsuspecting towns for "science". You had rape, genocide and more rape with humans. You had dwarven tricks and murder with dwarves. You had Halflings being the second most peaceful faction, by only murdering rapist and killers for fertilizer. The most peaceful faction just fucked off to play with metals in a cave.

That is why the character of Geralt stands out so much in his universe of monsters and magic. He is the equivalent of Rorschach in his universe and ironically enough being a moral compass for the viewers/readers to reference the actions of the book around. Every character in the books is either a morally gray character or gets beaten into one through horrific circumstances out of their control. Some races like the wizards, witchers and elves are less black than grey, but throughout their extended life in this world never stay white. They do get the ability to have more time to reflect on their morals and decisions than the rest of the races. It is a complex nature to reflect on societal pressures that forced you to commit horrific acts. It takes nuance, time and intelligence to properly reflect. This is why Geralts lines are so memorable.


Then you have "modern" writing for the Netflix show. It creates a black and white scenario with flat characters. The characters might as well just say, "I'm going to genocide these people, because I'm sad." Oh wait that was a plot in the show where an Elf magic clicked her fingers to kill human babies.
 
Meh, The TV show is so fucking frustrating. There was flashes of brilliance, ruined by cat ladies who hate the source material. Take the first episode based on 'The Lesser Evil', the short story is great with lots of moral ambuiquty, and some dark humour based on corruption of fairytales. (i.e. the idea Renfri was fucking her Seven Dwarfs). The TV show had fantastic onscreen chemistry between Geralt and Renfri, with both actors nailing their roles. But...it was cut down in favour of Ciri shit and seemed disjointed.
I wish they would have just binned the Ciri stuff and Story of JENNIFER STRONK INDEPENDENT WAMMAN stuff, and just made a few of the short stories, in linear fashion with the stories fleshed out and a 'Black Mirror' style feeling regarding the morals.

I guess it's no surprise that the only good episode of Season 2 was the only one based on a short story too...
 
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You're supposed to get a 10 but they bring in a 6, :story:

The article tries to say they both came to this "less intimate relationship" but that seems like an excuse.
 
I tghout he quit? Or was this the last season he filmed before quting? Either way, when the main actor says the show is shit, why bother watching it?
Yeah, I was wondering about that. Would be pretty bizarre to use his face all over the advertisement if he isn't in it. But the whole show has been handled pretty bizarrely.
 
I tghout he quit? Or was this the last season he filmed before quting? Either way, when the main actor says the show is shit, why bother watching it?
Yes, it's the last season he filmed. So the second to final season when they film a season with the new guy and even the diehard fans ignore it.
 
Imagine getting an actor like Henry fucking Cavil to star in your new TV show, and not only squandering him, but having him decide the show is shit and he doesn't want anything to do with it...
I would kill for the background behind why Lauren Schmidt-Hissrich was hired as the showrunner. Her husband is a pretty well-connected TV figure, having been a key producer on The West Wing, among other long-running shows, and I suspect she was handed The Witcher as a career booster/favor to him. She has token writing credits on pretty much every show he's produced.

And then she went and cocked it all up by casting an actual fan of the series as the lead, when she intended to treat the whole thing as mere window dressing for her fanfiction.
 
I would kill for the background behind why Lauren Schmidt-Hissrich was hired as the showrunner. Her husband is a pretty well-connected TV figure, having been a key producer on The West Wing, among other long-running shows, and I suspect she was handed The Witcher as a career booster/favor to him. She has token writing credits on pretty much every show he's produced.

And then she went and cocked it all up by casting an actual fan of the series as the lead, when she intended to treat the whole thing as mere window dressing for her fanfiction.
She either fucks like a tiger, or the hubby wanted to keep her busy and out of the way.
 
Well, the new season is here, and 3 episodes in my only question is why are there so many fat ugly nigger witches.

As I recall from the books they were supposed to be attractive so they could be at courts and influence them.
They're hiring black women for diversity, and of course black women are all ugly negroids.
 
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