Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

AgendaPoster said:
You should write us an essay about your views on the war and Odin, but please, make it long and with lots of detail. We are eager to see and read it, please do not disappoint!
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Considering his apparent level of literacy I think we'll be waiting until the Russian victory parade in Kiev.
teriyakiburns said:
Fortunately, the missile always knows where it is at all times.
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That assumes the missile hasn't been chugging a few gallons of vodka down. Or worse, that the maintenance crews assigned to it haven't taken the ethanol out of its coolant systems to drink as vodka.
 
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Ghostse said:
The question is if Ukraine would want to. In addition to perhaps not wanting the civilian population to starve, if they take out the bridge it makes it harder for the Russians to retreat. Every russian soldier not growing sunflowers back inside Russia is the end goal here, after all.
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Unless Russians start use human shields, Ukrainian offensive should be possible, civilians have sea route option if they're that desperate, ethnic pro Z Russians fucked off during first few waves which includes some posters on the farms and putting their houses on sale (Who are going to buy ruskie houses when reclaimed land would make putting houses on sale moot)
 
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Glowie said:
Unless Russians start use human shields, Ukrainian offensive should be possible, civilians have sea route option if they're that desperate, ethnic pro Z Russians fucked off during first few waves which includes some posters on the farms and putting their houses on sale (Who are going to buy ruskie houses when reclaimed land would make putting houses on sale moot)
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If Ukraine blows the bridge, that would mean it would be going for the full blockade option. That means denying any sea traffic and cutting off all methods of escape in order to starve anyone left on the peninsula, including civilians. In other words, an old fashioned siege.
 
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World in Scarlet said:
Eh, Ukrainians have first world tier education and a very different culture. I think the issue in Ukraine is mostly chaos in the administration and many of the officers being old reservists with a similarly retarded mentality many Russians share (except with far less corruption and systematic lying), both inherited from the Soviet Union. I suspect one of those sovoks was behind the famous Leopard and Bradley tour parallel to Russian trenches through a minefield.
I'd attribute the issues to scrambling to create an army during a surprise massive foreign invasion, rather than inherent problems with Ukrainian culture or human capital.
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I think maybe I didn't do a good enough job of making the moral of the story clear:
the moral was it doesn't matter if you have good quality enlisted if the officers leading them are shit and neopotistically corrupt. There were, and still are, units in the Iraqi army lead by quality officers who are competent soldiers. they are just overshadowed and likely outnumbered by the number lead incompetently by Col. Governor'sCousin who's only interest is impressing ladies with medals, collecting a paycheck, and power tripping to make some poor slubs life hell.
Ukraine seems to have a lot of same issues, but war is one hell of a crucible.
 
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New article from The Atlantic on children being kidnapped from Ukraine into Russia and having their identity scrubbed:
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This complements the video posted in this thread two days ago, which I'll link again since it's worth watching:

Also, if you missed it, here's the Vice article from May cited in the article, where Isobel Yeung interviewed the creepy and psychotic Lvova-Belova:
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WhiteNight said:
New article from The Atlantic on children being kidnapped from Ukraine into Russia and having their identity scrubbed:
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This complements the video posted in this thread two days ago, which I'll link again since it's worth watching:

Also, if you missed it, here's the Vice article from May cited in the article, where Isobel Yeung interviewed the creepy and psychotic Lvova-Belova:
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After the war tracking down these kids will be a decade(s) long journey, and i wouldn't be surprised at all if in 2050s we'll still find some random Ukrainian kids, now in their 30s who never had any idea that they were Ukrainian with their real parents still wondering what happened to them.
Unless Ukraine had very extensive biometric records centrally stored somewhere Russians cant reach them, it will be very difficult to prove who's who if Russia just burns all the local records and doesn't keep any of their own.

Or if the adoptive parents themselves start to feel guilty about all of this, and come clean that they were pushed some mystery 3-year old to raise. But i suspect the layers of self-rationalization will just be too much for that to be statistically significant.

Who would want to admit to themselves, that the child they raised for the past +20years was kidnapped under extremely suspicious circumstances during a war? Nah, the reason according to the parents there are no records will be because the orphanage was poor, and the mother was a Russian junkie who abandoned the child. That will be the assumed reason for all these discrepancies.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
If Ukraine blows the bridge, that would mean it would be going for the full blockade option. That means denying any sea traffic and cutting off all methods of escape in order to starve anyone left on the peninsula, including civilians. In other words, an old fashioned siege.
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Only militia and mobiks get stuck there, few civilians are used as propaganda prop before conscripting them to great patriotic war 2.0.

Russia's economy is a mess, nuclear plant is filled with explosives, Russia hasn't regained any momentum or Ukraine that they occupied.

Russian propaganda is failing, riots are happening left and right. Emigration is peaking. Putin displayed weakness.
Western Vatniks are absolutely seething and it's hilarious.
 
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