More post-jail sightings megathread

Al Dente Alighieri said:
I can't remember who said it but I'm always reminded of this whenever I see troons, Chris included:

"You're not a woman, you'll never be a woman and frankly because of what you've done to yourself, you'll never be man again either. You will be a strange creature stuck in some kind of physical limbo, depriving yourself of your greatest masculine traits while never embodying the feminine traits that make women so wonderful."
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I'm pretty sure that was Matt Walsh, specifically referring to Dylan Mulvaney.
 
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Apologies if this isn't quite the correct thread, but is there any reason why Chris has been sighted these few times, but hasn't communicated with the outside world? Is Chris banned from the internet by the court or something?
 
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Doggo said:
Apologies if this isn't quite the correct thread, but is there any reason why Chris has been sighted these few times, but hasn't communicated with the outside world? Is Chris banned from the internet by the court or something?
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not yet a confirmed reason, i believe

people have been speculating, anything from shame, to lack of access to a computer or phone, to the group home chopping down his internet time.... to him just plain ol forgetting his passwords
perhaps somewhere out there is a lonely chris chan on some new account nobody can find or believes, trying to crawl his way to us
 
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Doggo said:
Apologies if this isn't quite the correct thread, but is there any reason why Chris has been sighted these few times, but hasn't communicated with the outside world? Is Chris banned from the internet by the court or something?
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The prevailing speculation is he's been tard wrangled, either by his lawyer or by professional tard wranglers in charge of him.

There's really no evidence one way or the other. All we know is he's apparently at least somewhat free to go where he wants, but not doing anything visible online.
 
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Doggo said:
Apologies if this isn't quite the correct thread, but is there any reason why Chris has been sighted these few times, but hasn't communicated with the outside world? Is Chris banned from the internet by the court or something?
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The court cannot ban Chris from the internet since his crime had no direct connection to the internet. It's possible the home has no internet access for residents like him unless they're checking government or employment websites (no youtube or social media) heilburg may have asked Chris to stay off the internet but that's it.
 
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A Grey Cat said:
The court cannot ban Chris from the internet since his crime had no direct connection to the internet. It's possible the home has no internet access for residents like him unless they're checking government or employment websites (no youtube or social media) heilburg may have asked Chris to stay off the internet but that's it.
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I wrote this earlier in the thread. General bans from the entire internet as a mandatory punishment for a broad range of crimes is unconstitutional. There are many, many other cases where bans and restrictions are allowed. Packingham v North Carolina does not apply at all to the current possibility Chris may have internet access heavily restricted.

I'm reading the relevant laws in Virginia and they're very scarce on details as to the limits of the possible deferral conditions. They may be unilaterally imposed by the court, but most commonly they are agreed to by all parties, including the accused.

One interesting detail from the general text about any deferral is that once you agree to it, you waive your right to appeal a conviction if you're deemed guilty for violating the terms. That strikes me as relevant because it seems like a pretty significant right to give up if you "agree" to it. Fascinating legal question, honestly. I want to learn more

Adding more: agreeing to search without probable cause or notice seems to be a very common probation condition, which is fairly blatantly unconstitutional in general, but it flies for probation because you would technically consent to it because it's preferable to the 'punishment'. No way to be certain, but I feel strongly that internet restrictions are at least possible

Editing once more: We all know at this point about Packingham v North Carolina, which establishes that a North Carolina law banning sex offenders from the internet was unconstitutional. But the argument primarily rests on the breadth of the law, saying essentially, in my reading, that the uses of the internet are far too varied for a ban to legitimately serve the state's interests to protect the public or rehabilitate the criminal.
However, Illinois still explicitly lists social media bans as acceptable conditions of parole. https://codes.findlaw.com/il/chapter-730-corrections/il-st-sect-730-5-5-6-3.html This has been challenged following the lead of Packingham but has failed to go anywhere repeatedly. Virginia law is not Illinois law, but this shows that severely restricting Chris's internet activity is absolutely possible
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Alternatives to conviction have much more leeway than punishments that result from convictions because, by choosing the alternative over the punishment, you've demonstrated you prefer it to the constitutionally allowed punishment. There are still restrictions of probation conditions, basically that the terms must serve the state's interest of either public safety or rehabilitation of the criminal. We can go in circles until we're hoarse about if "the Trolls made him do it" or not, but it is absolutely indisputable that internet restrictions are a possible reasonable means towards the goal of rehabilitation in Chris's case.
 
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Doggo said:
Apologies if this isn't quite the correct thread, but is there any reason why Chris has been sighted these few times, but hasn't communicated with the outside world? Is Chris banned from the internet by the court or something?
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The court wouldn't ban him from the internet, at least I think not. It's more likely that the group-home he was made to live in as part of the terms just doesn't have any internet. Although Chris was seen buying a switch once, that can't be used to communicate on social network shit aside from sharing screencaps. Plus if they do have the internet, it probably filters off anything he could use to communicate with his "fans"
 
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bizzlix said:
The court wouldn't ban him from the internet, at least I think not. It's more likely that the group-home he was made to live in as part of the terms just doesn't have any internet. Although Chris was seen buying a switch once, that can't be used to communicate on social network shit aside from sharing screencaps. Plus if they do have the internet, it probably filters off anything he could use to communicate with his "fans"
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They can and they might heavily restrict it as a deferral condition.
 
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Second-Hand Boat Supplies said:
They can and they might heavily restrict it as a deferral condition.
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Well fair. I expect most people in charlottesville, including some at the group-home, would have heard of Chris's reputation as... y'know, a giant lolcow who can't get off the internet to save his life. So it could be possible that they're blocking his access specifically. But that doesn't seem too likely imo.
(p.s, what's the name of that group home? i know this might sound retarded, but a quick look at the CWCki yielded nothing. if I look it up, we oughta get a definitive answer whether chris gets the internet or not.)
(p.p.s: is the name of the group-home even known?)
 
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A Grey Cat said:
The court cannot ban Chris from the internet since his crime had no direct connection to the internet. It's possible the home has no internet access for residents like him unless they're checking government or employment websites (no youtube or social media) heilburg may have asked Chris to stay off the internet but that's it.
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Given what I've seen, it's possible Chris knows to not start trouble and that his very identity can cause it.

And in true Chris fashion he's doing the stupidest way of it. As such, instead of simply not wearing the damn Sonichu medallion, he just stuffs it in his shirt sometimes.
 
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Even if restrictions on internet are relevant to his rehabilitation (which is both impossible but also something the state os clearly failing at since he still believes himself to he "literally Jesus " a troon, and the player one of his own story.) Yiu just know the second he can get back on the internet he will. The internet is all Chris has left in life, the only place he can get attention and recognition...though now for far more unpleasant reasons.
 
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Apparently a friend of someone involved with the Cwcki Official Discord Server saw Chris today.
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