The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join - Pentagon scrambles to retain the main pipeline for new service members as disillusioned families steer young people away


Sky Nisperos’s grandfather came to the U.S. from Mexico, and became an American citizen by serving in the U.S. Navy. Her father, Ernest Nisperos, is an active-duty officer in the Air Force with two decades of service. For years, Sky planned to follow a similar path. “I wanted to be a fighter pilot,” the 22-year-old said. “It was stuck in my head.” Now, one of the most influential people in her life—her father—is telling her that a military career may not be the right thing. The children of military families make up the majority of new recruits in the U.S. military. That pipeline is now under threat, which is bad news for the Pentagon’s already acute recruitment problems, as well as America’s military readiness. “Influencers are not telling them to go into the military,” said Adm. Mike Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in an interview.

“Moms and dads, uncles, coaches and pastors don’t see it as a good choice.” After the patriotic boost to recruiting that followed 9/11, the U.S. military has endured 20 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan with no decisive victories, scandals over shoddy military housing and healthcare, poor pay for lower ranks that forces many military families to turn to food stamps, and rising rates of post-traumatic stress disorder and suicide. At the same time, the labor market is the tightest it has been in decades, meaning plenty of other options exist for young people right out of school. U.S. recruiting shortfalls represent a long-term problem that, if not resolved, would compel the military to reduce its force size. With America embarking on a new era of great-power competition with China and Russia, that problem has become more serious. China, which has around two million serving personnel, versus a little under 1.4 million in the U.S., has steadily expanded its military capabilities in recent decades, especially in the South China Sea.



The most immediate threat is a possible conflict with China over Taiwan, which would require a rapid and sustained response from all parts of the U.S. armed forces. “I’ve been studying the recruiting market for about 15 years, and we’ve never seen a condition quite like this,” said a senior Defense Department official. Toughest year The U.S. Army in 2022 had its toughest recruiting year since the advent of the all-volunteer military in 1973 and missed its goal by 25%. This year, it expects to end up about 15,000 short of its target of 65,000 recruits. The Navy expects to fall short by as many as 10,000 of its goal of nearly 38,000 recruits this year, and the Air Force has said it is anticipating coming in at 3,000 below its goal of nearly 27,000. The Marine Corps met its target last year of sending 33,000 to boot camp, and expects to meet its goals this year, but its leaders described recruitment as challenging. Only 9% of young people ages 16-21 said last year they would consider military service, down from 13% before the pandemic, according to Pentagon data. Pentagon officials see recruitment shortfalls as a crisis and pledge to hit their targets in the future to stave off making changes to the force structure. Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said she expects within weeks to begin drafting a proposal for a recruiting overhaul so sweeping that Congress might need to pass legislation to enact all of it. She declined to provide details but said a key element will be to coordinate with veterans’ groups. “Right now we are not in a comprehensive, structured way leveraging our relationships with veterans organizations,” Wormuth said. The Army has stepped up and modernized its marketing, launched remedial courses to bring unqualified young people to a level where they can join and revised some benefits. Army recruiters spoke with members of the National FFA Organization, formerly called Future Farmers of America, at an FFA convention in Indianapolis, Ind., in October. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Defense officials said they aren’t doing a good job of battling what they call misperceptions. They said many families want their children to go on to higher education after high school, considering the military a stumbling block instead of a steppingstone. Once a young person is on a path to a career, they aren’t as likely to put on a uniform, they said. When the draft ended at the close of the Vietnam War, the military fostered recruitment with the promise of a good career with retirement benefits and healthcare, as well as education benefits to prepare soldiers for life after the military.


That strategy worked, and the Army typically met its overall needs. It did so by relying heavily on veterans and military families to develop the next generation of recruits, especially in the region known in the military as the “Southern Smile,” a curving region from the mid-Atlantic and down across the southern U.S. Today, nearly 80% of all new Army recruits have a family member who has served in uniform, according to the service. That can be a good thing, said Col. Mark Crow, director of the Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis at West Point, because “people who know the most about it stick around.” Depending too much on military families could create a “warrior caste,” Wormuth said. Her plans seek to draw in people who have no real connection to the military and to broaden the appeal of service. Sky Nisperos, who moved around the world as a military brat, said that as a teen she began to see the effect of her father’s nearly dozen deployments and tours away from his family.


Ernest Nisperos said he remembers being asleep when one of his kids jabbed him in the ribs to wake him. He put Sky’s sister in a wrestling ankle lock before he realized he was back home. “My sister and I would say, ‘It’s just drill sergeant-dad mode,’ especially for the month he came back,” Sky said. Ernest Nisperos realized his deployments, which involved battle planning and top secret intelligence, were taking a toll. In 2019, after he returned from Afghanistan, he took the family to Disneyland. During the nightly fireworks extravaganza, he cowered in the fetal position while his family and “Toy Story” characters looked on. Sky worried her father would end up like her grandfather, the military patriarch, who in the years since he retired from the Navy started to have what the family describes as flashbacks to his time in Ramadi, Iraq, in 2005, sometimes yelling that he needed to take cover from a nonexistent attack. Her father decided he didn’t want that life for Sky and her two siblings. ‘What was it all for?’ Some on the left see the military as a redoubt of fringe conservatism. Oath Keepers, the militia group involved in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol whose leaders were found guilty of seditious conspiracy, and other extremists have touted their veteran credentials.

Those on the right have expressed concerns about the military focusing on progressive issues, or in the terms of some Republican lawmakers, being too “woke.” The sudden and unpopular conclusion to the war in Afghanistan in 2021 added to the disenchantment of some veterans, including Catalina Gasper, who served in the Navy. Gasper said she and her husband, who spent more than two decades in the Army, used to talk to their boys, now 7 and 10, about their future service, asking them if they wanted to be Navy SEALs. In July 2019, on her last combat deployment to Afghanistan, she was stationed at a base in Kabul when the Taliban launched an attack. The blast battered Gasper’s body and she was transported back to the U.S. for treatment and recovery. She was left with lingering damage from a traumatic brain injury. She is sensitive to loud sounds and bright lights. She has recurrent dizziness and forgets words. She also has bad knees and herniated discs in her back. The U.S. pulled out of Afghanistan in the summer of 2021, precipitating Kabul’s fall to the Taliban. “We’re left with the gut-wrenching feeling of, ‘What was it all for?’ ” she said. She said she was a patriot but decided she would do everything she could to make sure her kids never enter the military. “I just don’t see how it’s sustainable if the machine keeps chewing up and spitting out” our young people, she said.


Katherine Kuzminski, head of the Military, Veterans and Society Program at Center for a New American Security, a bipartisan security think tank, said the pandemic exacerbated the military’s long-term recruiting problems. “You can’t underestimate the fact we didn’t have recruiters on college and high school campuses for two years,” she said. “Recruiters are the only military access point for many people” without family or friends in the military. Potential Army recruits at the FFA convention used virtual reality headsets. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Wormuth, the Army secretary, said she is working with the Department of Education to streamline access to schools. Even with federal laws in place that guarantee military recruiters access to high school and college students, school administrators can limit the scope of visits and restrict recruiters’ movements and activities in schools. Recruiters are competing with some of the lowest unemployment numbers in decades, and entry-level jobs in the service industry that can promise quick paychecks, no commitments and no wait times to start. “To be honest with you it’s Wendy’s, it’s Carl’s Jr., it’s every single job that a young person can go up against because now they are offering the same incentives that we are offering, so that’s our competition right now,” said Sgt. Maj. Marco Irenze, of the Nevada Army National Guard. Defense officials said the military pay scale was designed for single teenage men content to live in barracks and who joined to seek adventure, among other reasons.


But the military has seen a shift from teens to people in their 20s, who come in later in life with greater expectations for benefits, pay and marketable skills and who pay more attention to the job market. The lowest-ranking troops make less than $2,000 a month, although pay is bolstered by benefits including healthcare, food and housing, leaving them few out-of-pocket expenses. Families or those who live off base can find expenses outstrip income. More than 20,000 active-duty troops are on SNAP benefits, otherwise known as food stamps, according to federal data. When service members move to a new base they often have to spend money out of pocket—even though the Army is supposed to cover all costs, according to Kathy Roth-Douquet, CEO of Blue Star Families, a military-family advocacy group that is currently asking Congress to mandate more funding for troops’ housing. “If it’s too expensive to serve in the military, families won’t recommend service,” she said. “This hurts the main pipeline of recruitment.” The promise of a pension down the line isn’t as attractive as it once was, said West Point’s Crow. Only 19% of active-duty troops stayed until retirement age in 2017, according to the Pentagon. To tackle that problem, the military started a system in 2018 that allows troops to invest in what is essentially a 401(k) program, so if they leave the military before full retirement they can still benefit. Prep courses The Department of Defense said 77% of American youth are disqualified from military service due to a lack of physical fitness, low test scores, criminal records including drug use or other problems. In 2013, about 71% of youth were ineligible.



The Army estimates that pandemic pressures on education including remote learning, illness, lack of internet access and social isolation lowered scores on the ASVAB, the military’s standardized test for potential recruits, by as much as 9%. Those who score below a certain level on the test and on physical readiness tests can’t join without improving their scores. Lt. Col. Dan Hayes, a Green Beret who once taught Special Forces captains, some of the highest-performing soldiers in the Army, took charge of the Future Soldier Prep Course in Fort Jackson, S.C. The course takes Army recruits who can’t perform academically or physically and gets them up to standards that allow them to join the service. Other programs help new soldiers raise scores. “We’re looking at the problems in society and recruiting and realizing we have to meet people half way,” said Hayes. The Army is adapting marketing techniques from the private sector. One early lesson: The Cold War-era slogan, “Be All You Can Be,” performed better than a recent one, “Army of One,” which didn’t reflect the teamwork the service thinks appeals to current teenagers. The slogan also emphasizes that the military offers career development and a broader sense of purpose, some of its strongest selling points. Maj. Gen. Deborah Kotulich, the director of the Army’s recruiting and retention task force, a unit convened to address recent shortfalls, said potential recruits should know the Army has more than 150 different job fields available.


Maj. General Alex Fink is just as likely to wear a business suit as camouflage fatigues at the Army Enterprise Marketing Office based in Chicago. The Army put Fink, a reservist with a marketing background, in Chicago so he can be in the heart of one of the nation’s advertising and marketing hubs. “It hadn’t evolved for the last 15 or 20 years,” he said in an interview. “We really couldn’t measure the effectiveness of marketing.” Fink’s office is now gathering data on every potential recruit. If an Army ad runs on Facebook and a link gets clicked, the service can follow that anonymous user digitally. “We don’t know your name, but we can start serving you ads,” he said. And if that user eventually fills out an Army questionnaire, the service has a name to go with that data and can know what kinds of ads work best. “Literally we can track this all the way until a kid signs a contract,” he said. Restructuring units Deeper problems soldiers report include moldy barracks, harassment, lack of adequate child care and not enough support for mental health issues such as suicide. “Parents have concerns about, hey, if my kid joins the military are they going to have good places to live?” Wormuth said. “If my kid joins the military are they going to be sexually harassed, or are they going to be more prone to suicidal ideations?” She said the Army has encouraged recruiters to be forthright about addressing what might have once been taboo issues in order to dispel those concerns


. The service says it has worked to encourage troops to report abuse and harassment and cracked down on such behavior, and has also expanded parental-leave benefits. Department of Defense officials have said they will have to address the total combat power of the military if the recruiting crisis continues, but that they aren’t ready to yet talk about whether strength will ultimately be affected. Readiness shortfalls can be masked when units aren’t headed into war, but a full-scale response, such as what would be needed in the Pacific, could expose undermanned units that can’t be deployed or aren’t effective, and ships and aircraft that aren’t combat ready due to a lack of personnel to maintain them. The military faces decisions on either cutting the size of units or reconfiguring them, or making choices that could hurt the quality of the current forces. Working to retain existing soldiers is an option. But retention can mean low performers aren’t let go, said Gil Barndollar, a senior research fellow at the Center for the Study of Statesmanship at Catholic University of America. “If you’re not cutting your bottom 10% after their initial contracts it’s going to have a long-term effect on high performers,” he said. Last year, the Army’s top officer, Gen. James McConville, told reporters the service was prepared to eliminate redundancies in the Army’s key fighting units, which are called brigade combat teams.


The Army would maintain the number of the units by reducing the personnel in each of them, a restructuring that was prompted by the recruiting crunch, according to one defense official. Potential recruits at the FFA convention tried a fitness challenge. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a nonpartisan think tank, said the Army might end up making cuts that leave too few soldiers in platoons and other units. During peacetime and training this may go unnoticed, but if those units have to deploy, the Army would have to take troops from other units to fill in gaps. Undermanned units aren’t ready to respond quickly, Cancian said, and units with fill-in soldiers don’t have the same effectiveness as a unit whose members trained together for months or years. “What you’re going to see in the Army are hollow units,” he said. Wormuth, the Army secretary, has said units will get cuts but hasn’t made public her plan. She has for months hinted at broader force reductions. “If you look at us over the course of the last 50 years of history, the Army is a little bit like an accordion.


We tend to expand in times of war,” Wormuth said. “Frankly that’s how the Founding Fathers thought about the military, they didn’t want a large standing militia.” Still, she said, the Army is “very, very focused” on turning around the recruiting numbers. Changes may come too late for those about to graduate from high school or college. Sky Nisperos, who once dreamed of becoming an Air Force pilot, graduated from the University of Oklahoma in May. Her plan now, she said, is to become a graphic designer.


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This man is a faggot.

This man is overweight. That alone should shame anyone who wears our colors. Look at that soft gut, protruding selfishly outwards from his weakened beta male frame. The unkempt hair slithering down from his balding, pudgy head. He only passes PT by barely passing womens' fitness standards, and never could for his own sex.

This is a man who bombastically claimed to be what half our population is, effortlessly - a woman - and thus became an officer, more well-paid with an easier career than I ever got as an enlisted man. He does not fight - he cannot. He does not lead - he cannot. He does not even work - he cannot.

This is the body, speech, and face of a man who will get those under his command killed in conflict. And he will not care, he will panic instead, a selfish cross of fear of punishment from above and that he is to be shot next by the enemy. This man deserves to be fragged and killed by his own troops before he, essentially, kills them.

This is the man the military sent to entice you to join it for.

Will you?
You're damn right, in fact, this video makes me want to sign my life away to protect woke corporate oligarchs spread freedom and liberty around the globe.
Here is an story on some vets that decided to continue their service in other ways.

Americans Who Fought Putin Share ‘Horrifying’ War Surprises (Archive)

I couldn't stop giggling.

"OH NOES! NO AIR SUPPORT! NO CHOPPERS! OH FUCK IT ISN'T LIKE FIGHTING GOAT HERDERS!"

NO shit, faggot.

Why do you think there was like a million of us there.

It's hilarious how for all their EIGHT YEARS CRAYON EATER! and GREEN BERET SNAKE EATING SUPERSTAR these two faggots had no idea how to fight against near peer.

They couldn't even do basic bitch winter fighting.

BUT...

The funnies thing?

The VA will now deny ALL their claims. They will no longer get any VA compensation or anything else, the VA will reevaluate them, and every single medical condition they have or will develop will be credited to their time playing Wolverines.

Source: Retard at the VA I go to went to the Ukraine to fight. He's lost all his compensation. He doesn't even qualify for fucking injuries that happened in service. ALL of it is being blamed on Ukrainian fighting.

The best part is just how shocked, SHOCKED I SAY that Ivan dropped artillery on them.

I giggle my ass off when I realize these hard charging faggots have no idea how to fight and don't realize they don't know.

Plus, going to Ukraine and trusting the slavs?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

I love how you can hear the saltiness that they weren't treated like they were special and basically had to form their own little merc units.

Thanks for the article, it really made my afternoon so much better.
Social media is a poison, I still can't believe people continue to lionize Ukraine even though they are too stupid to find it on a world map. Twitter is a hell of a drug. Plus, why don't the Redditors consider other ways to help? They always scream about how it's like Asgard vs. Mordor, but in reality they're both corrupt, oligarch-laden, radioactive, vodka-drunk shitholes full of unscrupulous individuals who sell lots of illegal shit.
@Secret Asshole it's crazy how so many people will gang up on one of my accounts on other sites if I point out this very fact. I don't think it's inaccurate to call these spergs a cult.
Lol we are so fucked in the next conflict it's not even funny. Retards think we will swoop in like always and just bomb everything to shit, USA USA USA!
I genuinely don't think we'd fare well against Grenada in our current state. It's not a matter of what we have - we still have some of the best tech and munitions in the world and a lot of them. But when that fancy drone is being piloted by a 41%er amped up on HRT or your commanding officer in the field is too afraid to lead because that would involve talking down to the uppity loud sheboon in his squad, that all just amounts to shiny toys.
Honestly I don't think we'd fare well against Luxembourg at the rate things are going.
They refuse to admit that there are issues. They are stuck with a huge case of idological blinders and simply CANNOT admit that this shit isn't working. They can't address the elephant in the room and are not allowed to touch the sacred cow of D.E.I and wokeness, so they will keep making more and more stupid mistakes and ignoring the issues while it just continues to get worse.

They don't want your solutions based on reality, they want magical solutions that fix the problem without touching their little cult.

You just described pretty much every political party that ever existed, but Trumpers/GOP and especially DNC fit the bill.
In case anyone doesn't get it..
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The down pointing nose on the jets especially the 2nd from the right so blatantly slav its practically wearing an adidas track suit. Yet someone working at the US Pacific Fleet just doesn't see it.
I'd sooner wear an Adidas tracksuit myself than sign up for Emmy and her two moms.
Why the fuck is it surprising that actual veterans, looking at a joke of a military where they put cockless mentally ill men in dresses in charge of shit, guaranteeing soldiers will FUCKING DIE, would tell their children to stay away from this shitshow at all costs?

Maybe the military should spend more time on their actual job of blowing shit up and killing people who are threats to our national security and less time about letting morbidly obese lunatics in charge of things? Who the fuck asked for this wokeshit?

Trannies are a threat to national security, especially when put in positions of authority solely to reward them for cutting off their dicks. As someone else said, anyone put under one of these "officers" should fucking frag them before they get literally killed by their incompetence and uselessness.
The only jobs these idiots care about are blowjobs. I suppose they pushed this shit twice as hard because the military is a stereotypically masculine job and oh no no no we can't have that in Current Year now, girlfriend.
No Russian ever called me cis scum.
When I was in high school, there was a lot of talk about GWB reinstating the draft, and I told another kid, "No Iraqi ever called me a faggot" when he asked me what I thought of it. Honestly it's hard to believe so many people once supported that misadventure turned giant recruitment poster for al-Qaeda.

Can we dress as a woman to get out of the Army like in MASH? Oh wait that doesn't work anymore.... it'll probably get me promoted.

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This could double as their latest recruitment ad, hell if you go all the way in your feminization, they'll probably promote you to colonel at least.
I bet the standards are so low that shitting your pants won't get you out of the draft anymore.
So basically pulling a Ted Nugent won't save me from being cannon fodder? Good to know.
I'll sooner go out like Chris Dorner than let them drag me back in to wear a uniform on behalf of globohomo.
I don't agree with everything he said or did but they sure did the guy dirty.
That's just it.

These faggots don't look at war as "kill the enemy, break their shit, leave him no ground to go to" but rather "How can we open lesbian ice cream stores and teach queer feminism while enriching Halliburton?"

For fuck's sake, we killed bin Laden and STILL hung around for a decade.

The ROE was fucking stupid, worse than the ones in 'Nam.

The military wins wars, the bankers profit off of them, the politicians lose them.
Only in America can someone teach transgender communism while making globalist oligarchs richer than God.
 
I can't get down with this. Even as one of those filthy MAGA's I'm not going to be cool with foreign shitskins bombing liberals. They may be worthless, entitled communist fucks, but they are American worthless, entitled communist fucks. We can NEVER send the message that it's okay for foreigners to have an open season on Americans because the foreigners don't differentiate between us.
the guy you responded to will end up like those white liberals who shouted "but we're the good ones who supported you!" when BLM fucked up their shit. Russia and china dont care if youre maga or not, youre an american and the only good american is a dead one.

9/11 unified America and the only people who died were wall street faggots and nyc bugs.
 
Honestly it's hard to believe so many people once supported that misadventure turned giant recruitment poster for al-Qaeda.
What's funny is that there was a fair amount of questions being asked at first, but they were loudly shut down with "Why do you hate America? Are you a traitor?" Reminds me of something else I can't put my finger on...
 
Now Fox News is jumping on the military is failing to find new fodder train.

Austin administers military oath of office to new recruits as US military faces continued recruiting crisis (Archive)

To mark the 50th anniversary of the all-volunteer force, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin traveled to Fort Meade, Maryland by Black Hawk helicopter on Wednesday to administer the military oath of office to 85 brave young men and women. 67 of these new recruits shipped out to basic training just hours after the ceremony, leaving for bases all across the country, including Parris Island, South Carolina and Fort Moore, Georgia.

"Fifty years ago this week, the United States stopped drafting citizens into service and turned instead to an all-volunteer force," Secretary Austin told the recruits. "Ever since then, Americans like you have joined our military, out of conviction and not out of compulsion."

Secretary Austin's visit comes as the U.S. military continues to face a recruiting crisis, resulting from the robust job market, the end of wars overseas and high rates of PTSD. Recruiters did not have access to college campuses or high schools during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 and 2021, losing crucial face to face time with potential recruits.

College has also become a more popular option for high school graduates, with 62% of high school seniors pushed to go directly to college. Another reason for low recruitment numbers is the perception among some that the military has gone "woke." The nation is also facing a health crisis among young people with 77 percent of America's youth not eligible to serve, according to a Pentagon study.

A recent WSJ article outlined another alarming trend: the children of military families, who typically make up 80 percent of US Army recruits, are telling their children not to serve, especially those from the South.

The Army, Air Force and Navy are on track to miss recruiting goals this year. The U.S. military has typically met annual recruitment goals since 1973. The U.S. Army missed its recruiting goals by 25% last year.

After 9/11, recruiting increased due to the wave of patriotism that swept the nation. This year the Army is expected to end up 15,000 recruits short of its 65,000 goal. Meanwhile, U.S. military chiefs say that retention has never been higher, but continue to express concerned that if recruiting numbers don't improve the U.S. will not be able to face the next Great Power threat, or deal with two conflicts at the same time; Russia and China.

Getting young men and women like the ones Secretary Austin met on Wednesday is crucial to protecting U.S. interests. "We rely on you, our democracy relies on you, and your country relies on you," Austin told the recruits before they shipped off for basic training.
 
So basically pulling a Ted Nugent won't save me from being cannon fodder? Good to know.
I seriously doubt Ted Nugent ever did that. It was a common urban legend at the time and he probably stole it from someone else. Still it's funny considering what a badass he portrays himself as.
 
These days if you want that kind of action in your life you can just go play one of the many military video games out there. No need to get your adrenaline rush by actually getting shot at by angry people in some third world hellhole anymore. You can even go play an RTS game and LARP as general and shit and then you are the one ordering a bunch of young guys to go die. The best thing is no one is getting killed. Especially you.
It's not quite the same. Get put on a special assignment to convoy because you have a 7-ton license. "OH SHIT! THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US!" as bullets bounce off the up-armored truck, IEDs going off, and holy shit my blood is pumping. Sure it came with some drawbacks, like not being able to shake the thought of being ambushed while driving under bridges and overpasses. Or getting to party with the EOD guys, transport a bunch of shit to the middle of nowhere, wire it up, drive to the minimum safe distance and get to push the button and watch the biggest fucking explosion in your life and feel the blastwave. Then form up and watch a bunch of Hajis on motorcycle, trucks, and anything else they can drive come barreling down at you, and expecting to get into a massive fucking firefight; but no, they just want to salvage the scrap metal, but God damn I thought we were just gonna gun them all down.

It's a whole other level of excitement, then having that one black actor yell at me to get the RPG and shoot down a helicopter.
 
I hope you enjoy being their slave then.
I wish you all would be this bold in the real world. Globohomo would have never taken root if you all would speak up instead of staying silent and letting your enemies manufacture consent and demoralize your countrymen. In the same vein that you claim the US is some third world shithole where there are zero prospects of a future, you won't even risk your apparently dead-end prospects to be honest. On the one hand you mock trannies as so fragile they can't even handle a conversation without 41%ing, but in the other you are so terrified of them that you think they're this all-knowing thought police who are going to form death squads and put you in camps or something. Most of you say the media is manipulated and everyone is lied to, that the election was stolen and the current government is illegitmate, but on the other say the people on the other side are bugmen who deserve to be eliminated instead of your countrymen who are being manipulated. One of you unironically posted the sam hyde copypasta.

Some of you regularly suck off Russia, even as they call you faggots and trannies and threaten to nuke you. They look at you the same as the rainbow brigade. China and Russia aren't coming to save you, Russia uses gay rape as part of it's military culture. China is essentially in the late 1980's stage of Soviet Russia. You fall for the propaganda while mocking libtards for falling for the propaganda. It's time for me to touch grass.
 
I wish you all would be this bold in the real world. Globohomo would have never taken root if you all would speak up instead of staying silent and letting your enemies manufacture consent and demoralize your countrymen. In the same vein that you claim the US is some third world shithole where there are zero prospects of a future, you won't even risk your apparently dead-end prospects to be honest. On the one hand you mock trannies as so fragile they can't even handle a conversation without 41%ing, but in the other you are so terrified of them that you think they're this all-knowing thought police who are going to form death squads and put you in camps or something. Most of you say the media is manipulated and everyone is lied to, that the election was stolen and the current government is illegitmate, but on the other say the people on the other side are bugmen who deserve to be eliminated instead of your countrymen who are being manipulated. One of you unironically posted the sam hyde copypasta.

Some of you regularly suck off Russia, even as they call you faggots and trannies and threaten to nuke you. They look at you the same as the rainbow brigade. China and Russia aren't coming to save you, Russia uses gay rape as part of it's military culture. China is essentially in the late 1980's stage of Soviet Russia. You fall for the propaganda while mocking libtards for falling for the propaganda. It's time for me to touch grass.
Go back to reddit turning point USA
 
I wish you all would be this bold in the real world. Globohomo would have never taken root if you all would speak up instead of staying silent and letting your enemies manufacture consent and demoralize your countrymen. In the same vein that you claim the US is some third world shithole where there are zero prospects of a future, you won't even risk your apparently dead-end prospects to be honest. On the one hand you mock trannies as so fragile they can't even handle a conversation without 41%ing, but in the other you are so terrified of them that you think they're this all-knowing thought police who are going to form death squads and put you in camps or something. Most of you say the media is manipulated and everyone is lied to, that the election was stolen and the current government is illegitmate, but on the other say the people on the other side are bugmen who deserve to be eliminated instead of your countrymen who are being manipulated. One of you unironically posted the sam hyde copypasta.

Some of you regularly suck off Russia, even as they call you faggots and trannies and threaten to nuke you. They look at you the same as the rainbow brigade. China and Russia aren't coming to save you, Russia uses gay rape as part of it's military culture. China is essentially in the late 1980's stage of Soviet Russia. You fall for the propaganda while mocking libtards for falling for the propaganda. It's time for me to touch grass.
I never said China and Russia were going to do shit for us, and it’s beside the point that everyone is trying to get across to you; ie. that pithy moralizing about being better than your foes means nothing when faced with the Hobbesean Leviathan.

Don’t assign so much blame for so little. It makes you look like a tool.
 
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I wonder if China and Russia has already deployed destabilizing tactics against the US as it's trying against Russia, but the attacks against the US began to feed on themselves? I know there was the thing about Russian trolls on Facebook during the Hillary Trump election, but she was genuinely evil so...
 
I wish you all would be this bold in the real world. Globohomo would have never taken root if you all would speak up instead of staying silent and letting your enemies manufacture consent and demoralize your countrymen. In the same vein that you claim the US is some third world shithole where there are zero prospects of a future, you won't even risk your apparently dead-end prospects to be honest. On the one hand you mock trannies as so fragile they can't even handle a conversation without 41%ing, but in the other you are so terrified of them that you think they're this all-knowing thought police who are going to form death squads and put you in camps or something. Most of you say the media is manipulated and everyone is lied to, that the election was stolen and the current government is illegitmate, but on the other say the people on the other side are bugmen who deserve to be eliminated instead of your countrymen who are being manipulated. One of you unironically posted the sam hyde copypasta.
Nigger, I work with the literal worst of humanity every single day in a medium sized city with one of the highest crime rates in the country, that also unwaveringly votes blue. If I could put every single one of these fucks in a junkyard trash compactor, I would do it without hesitation because I know my community would be better off without these locusts skin walking as human beings.
You're in the wrong thread telling people to nut up or shut up. All I've seen out of you is ultra naive platitudes that tells me you've never been anywhere or done anything. Maybe earn some actual life experience before getting on your soapbox.
 
I wonder if China and Russia has already deployed destabilizing tactics against the US as it's trying against Russia, but the attacks against the US began to feed on themselves? I know there was the thing about Russian trolls on Facebook during the Hillary Trump election, but she was genuinely evil so...

Nah, they are not powerful compared to this E-Girl known as Lujan.




 
Didn't she get doxxed recently? Could have sworn that it was confirmed she is an actual psy op.
Essentially she is. Her LinkedIn profile says she is a Psychological Operations Specialist for the US Army (assuming it's accurate) and there is this interesting article on her and e-girls who do similar things. It's a pretty impressive innovative tactic for the military recruitment if that is what it is, I do wonder how effective it is though?

if the whole joining process was extremely fast the charm might last long enough but I think even the biggest pretty lady lover would start having second thoughts the moment they start talking with a recruiter and getting to the paperwork because it wakes a person back up to the reality of the situation.
 
I seriously doubt Ted Nugent ever did that. It was a common urban legend at the time and he probably stole it from someone else. Still it's funny considering what a badass he portrays himself as.
Yeah I don't take that story seriously, it just sounds like something that people make up to slander people they don't like.

Ted Nugent, however, is a legend in his own mind.
 
Yeah I don't take that story seriously, it just sounds like something that people make up to slander people they don't like.

Ted Nugent, however, is a legend in his own mind.
He said he made up all claims to have dodged the draft at all.
 
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I really don't see any benefit to joining unless you want to become what they call a "lifer" and stay in. There really isn't many jobs out there where the skills you learn in the military will help you.
There is very lucrative jobs as a mercenary i know a buddy of mine was looking into his options were un peacekeeping or working as a merc. He was too up on his high horse for mercenary and they make the big bucs
 
You can even go play an RTS game and LARP as general and shit and then you are the one ordering a bunch of young guys to go die. The best thing is no one is getting killed. Especially you.
When I was a kid playing games like Battlezone or C&C Tiberian Sun it didn't click for me that every unit I lost represented a lost family member of someone else. I just thought war and blowing shit up was cool. Sure it felt bad to lose units but it felt good to blow up those belonging to the other side. Six year old me was an idiot but that's what it is.
 
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