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[Xarpho's Return]

The total subsidy per rider is $9264.26, or enough money to lease a car for every single rider (or buy one outright every few years). The federal subsidy per rider is $3208.32. I hope every federal taxpayer knows that they spend $3k per person to get politicians' staff, NGO employees, and lobbyists to work.

Keep these numbers in mind whenever urbanists complain about drivers being subsidized.

Speaking of how much money or not trains make, another thing that I've noticed that they like to claim that Japanese public transit is a "success" since the trains are profitable. But all the Japanese Railway companies also own the leases to the stations' businesses, hotels, and all sorts of other things, so the trains aren't necessarily profit-generators. Plus, the trains' losses are already cut with limited hours, after midnight, so that kills the "BUT I NEED THE TRAIN TO FERRY MY DRUNK ASS HOME" arguments.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

The Dutch don't agree

This is exactly what I said about France earlier. All the transporttrannies were fully dilated over France banning short flights. But that inevtiably just means more driving because the trains were quite often already more expensive than the planes. It won't get cheaper.

And in your car, you can swerve (or not) when Ngubu gets in your way. Not so much on the train.

American bugmen are always 10 years behind the Europeans who are already living with the consequences of these decisions, whether it's crowded shitty transportation or shutting down all the nuclear plants. (angry_greta.webp)

eta: the irony is I come to KF not to dox urbantrannies, but to avoid being doxxed by them. If I went to a city hall meeting and said please don't remove the parking the senior citizens use to go to the ATM to put in a bike lane no one uses, I'd be the one getting harassed.

 

[New Fag]

Have they ever explained how these murder machine SUVs are according to Euro NCAP, among the safest for vulnerable road users (pedestrians basically)?


Spaghetti link

5 of the top 10 are SUVs with them being 1, 2, 3, 5 and 9.

And for those interested the #1 vs #4 for vulnerable road users

Mazda CX-60 Tesla Model S

Asking because I am fed up of every time someone gets run over by an SUV the comments are overrun by these people.

 

[quaawaa]

5 of the top 10 are SUVs with them being 1, 2, 3, 5 and 9.

The Tesla Model Y (#7) is a crossover, so "SUVs" make up six of the top ten.

eta: the irony is I come to KF not to dox urbantrannies, but to avoid being doxxed by them. If I went to a city hall meeting and said please don't remove the parking the senior citizens use to go to the ATM to put in a bike lane no one uses, I'd be the one getting harassed.

You should still go to those meetings. Barely anyone goes to them so any resistance makes it clear to city leaders that /r/fuckcars types are not the majority of their constituents. Urbanist arguments are easy to debunk once you've seen them before (there are plently of posts in this thread documenting their flaws if you need examples), so as long as your council members aren't cult members, you and your neighbors have a real chance of stopping the urbanists from ruining your city.

A while back, I shared a /r/notjustbikes post about a city council meeting about an unpopular bike lane in an industrial area of Kansas City where the people in favor of the it were all carpetbagging cycling activists and the people in opposition were all local residents and business owners. Practically all city council meetings have attendees like that; don't be afraid to call them out as paid shills.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The Tesla Model Y (#7) is a crossover, so "SUVs" make up six of the top ten.

You should still go to those meetings. Barely anyone goes to them so any resistance makes it clear to city leaders that /r/fuckcars types are not the majority of their constituents. Urbanist arguments are easy to debunk once you've seen them before (there are plently of posts in this thread documenting their flaws if you need examples), so as long as your council members aren't cult members, you and your neighbors have a real chance of stopping the urbanists from ruining your city.

A while back, I shared a /r/notjustbikes post about a city council meeting about an unpopular bike lane in an industrial area of Kansas City where the people in favor of the it were all carpetbagging cycling activists and the people in opposition were all local residents and business owners. Practically all city council meetings have attendees like that; don't be afraid to call them out as paid shills.

It's very unlikely that even if you call them out, they'll start some campaign to ruin your life. Remember, most of the tire-slashing is just posturing & seething anyway.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

i just want sedans to make a big comeback already. i dont want a big ass suv what am i gonna do with all that space

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

It's very unlikely that even if you call them out, they'll start some campaign to ruin your life. Remember, most of the tire-slashing is just posturing & seething anyway.

Sorry, not going to get into it here of all places, but that may good advice for most people but not for me.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Speaking of how much money or not trains make, another thing that I've noticed that they like to claim that Japanese public transit is a "success" since the trains are profitable. But all the Japanese Railway companies also own the leases to the stations' businesses, hotels, and all sorts of other things, so the trains aren't necessarily profit-generators. Plus, the trains' losses are already cut with limited hours, after midnight, so that kills the "BUT I NEED THE TRAIN TO FERRY MY DRUNK ASS HOME" arguments.

So basically you need Yakuza or Al Capone mafia levels type of organization horizontal control to make trains work and turn a profit. One could say to a certain extent the govt is like a mafia but with certain safeguards that prevent it from being an all out mafia.

 

[quaawaa]

Today is apparently hate on turning right on red day over at /r/fuckcars:

Right turn on red should be illegal because a cyclist got hit by a car:



How is that possible without the cyclist breaking the law? Remember, cyclists are supposed to behave the same as cars on the road.

If the cyclist was turning right or going straight parallel to the car, then he should have yielded to the turning car in front of him just as a car would have had to instead of trying to pass on the right. If he was going straight then he was planning on running a red light, and if he was turning then he was also turning right on red.

If the cyclist was going straight perpendicular to the car, then he would have had to have been in the crosswalk to be hit, which means that he was pretending to be a pedestrian because it was convenient. If he was riding counterflow to the traffic on the sidewalk, then it is possible that the car, who was only expecting fast moving vehicles from their left, didn't see the cyclist.

Only one commentor realized this:

There was no response from OP.
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/r/fuckcars user struggles to cross the street:

The reason why the cars keep turning is because they have a green light. The walk signal doesn't come on until 10 seconds into the video after the black pickup truck turns. He then slowly meanders around and does not make it clear that he is trying to cross until after the red car stops for him and honks because they're wondering wtf he's doing.

/r/fuckcars commentors say the cars are breaking the law:


Pedestrians live in constant fear of being shot by drivers:


Someone did point out that the cars had the right of way though:

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[Markass the Worst]

If he was going straight then he was planning on running a red light

Fun fact, Many cyclists justify running red lights by saying that it only affects them if they get hit.

No, it's not legal to shoot someone if you feel your life is in danger. Only if a reasonable person in your situation would have felt the same way.

 

[quaawaa]

The girlfriend of a Polish member of /r/fuckcars told him to grow up and get a car:

Proof OP is Polish:

Even European women don't like these losers.

They tell him to break up with her:







Other members share their stories of being forced to get a license:



A bro tells this autist what women really want, but it likely flew over his head:


He gets called out for not walking:

It's never enough.

By the way, OP is also a remote worker:

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A story in two posts:

"We're not trying to ban all cars":

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"All we're saying is you can't drive a car":

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A troll posted a "Just one more track bro!" image to /r/fuckcars:


This is Clapham Junction in London:

They defended it, of course:


Considering that it's around the same width, I'd hope as much:

The junction is twice as wide as the freeway, but so are the interchanges. The actual rails and highway lanes parts are about the same size.

It is not the busiest station by number of passengers, most of whom (about 430,000 on a weekday, of which 135,000 are at rush hours) pass through.

The Katy Freeway has around 300k cars per day, which using the standard assumption of 1.5 passengers per car means that the highway moves around 450k people per day, which is the same number of people as the rail lines do. The highway likely moves more because non-rush hour cars carry more people (e.g. families).
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[Xarpho's Return]

"All we're saying is you can't drive a car":

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The cope is usually "but what if cars were banned in urban areas". Well, what defines an "urban area?" Like "suburbs" that's a vague category and a moving target. Maybe a downtown area ringed by parking garages...and that actually has been proposed before in some downtowns, but urban areas go farther than that, and even banning them downtown won't ever be enough for them, because other neighborhoods are also considered "urban".

 

[Yamamura]

They tell him to break up with her:

Sometimes (though rarely), I almost feel bad for redditors who actually take advice from reddit. Sometimes I read the advice they give each other and the only reason to follow their advice is if you want to burn every bridge with every family member, friend or colleague you know. Truly the redditor's worst enemy is other redditors.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Sometimes (though rarely), I almost feel bad for redditors who actually take advice from reddit. Sometimes I read the advice they give each other and the only reason to follow their advice is if you want to burn every bridge with every family member, friend or colleague you know. Truly the redditor's worst enemy is other redditors.

They can't get a girlfriend, so they tell the ones who do to break up with them. Crabs in a bucket mentality.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

They can't get a girlfriend, so they tell the ones who do to break up with them. Crabs in a bucket mentality.

I now see where the term "reddit nigger" comes from.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Pedestrians live in constant fear of being shot by drivers:

Maybe if you don't stand in front of cars and harass them, they won't pull a Glock/Sig/revolver on you, especially when you go about deflating their tires. When theyre in the vehicle, they have a right to defend themselves, we have laws for that.

i just want sedans to make a big comeback already. i dont want a big ass suv what am i gonna do with all that space

Sedans are fun and sporty, I like mine ill tell you that. Look at the used market man, all I can say

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

They tell him to break up with her:

As with most cults, they encourage you to sever all of your relationships that don't reinforce the power of the cult.

 

[PozzedByCoronachan]

Yeah NotJustBikes is enemy number one on r/fuckcars now lmao, they're ripping into him.



Also I don't think they understand that people agree to staying in "small footprint, high density rooms" because they can spend the rest of the day gorging on food and enjoying a nice tropical vacation.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Yeah NotJustBikes is enemy number one on r/fuckcars now lmao, they're ripping into him.

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It's funny he declares a lost cause all of North America when there are plenty of walkable places there you could live the car-free lifestyle. Just go to walkscore.com and type in any major city.

Also I don't think they understand that the "small footprint high-density" part of cruise ship design is made up by the fact that you're gorging on food, chilling in the tropics on vacation all day.
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They do the same comparison to Disneyland, but it's hilarious because both cruise ships and Disneyland are all heavily based around consooming, which implies car-free living is just mindless consooming too.

 

[Yamamura]

They do the same comparison to Disneyland, but it's hilarious because both cruise ships and Disneyland are all heavily based around consooming, which implies car-free living is just mindless consooming too.

Tbh I'm suprised they would mention cruise ships in a positive light considering they're one of the things environmentalists cite as being destructive to the ocean and create a huge carbon footprint.

Also they don't mention how in this "floating city" you don't encounter: druggies, the homeless, muggers etc.

How many of these people do you want to bet don't actually live in these dense urban utopias that they claim and rather live in a suburb outside the city and just bitch about how bad urban sprawl is. Judging by how many of them secretly own sports cars and suvs it wouldn't surprise me.