Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[AMHOLIO]

They also typically try to act hyperfeminine to creepy and cringy lengths. The typical overlap of tranime/furry is usually there too.

I remember some ovarit users and farmers sharing horror stories about how they were in a gaming group with their mic on mute, listening in and the trans woman in their group would talk in a normal male voice. As soon as these natal women turned on their mics and joined in, the troon would then change "her" voice to something much more high pitched and pseudofem. You must get users who are trying their hardest to practice their "girl" voices out on others in a game, like an easy way to vocal practice.

They make me so FUCKING uncomfortable. Do they have any self awareness to how uncomfortable they make people?

Some do... and that's why they do it because they're attention or fetish whores. Others obviously don't since they don't hear the same thing you do and are alone in a room without facial expression or body language, or are socially inept and don't know it.

when did treating a mental illness become embracing the actual illness?Even if there was a neurological basis for being trans, there's still no way for humans to change their sex.

The argument that treating transitioning akin to indulging anorexia's fantasies of cutting their weight down is apt in these cases.

The mistake was that thinking modern medicine has come close enough to properly transition people into passing as the other sex (and you know it hasn't but not everyone does) and thinking that trans is gay 2.0, where it's an at birth thing.

If it isn't about biology and its about sociology then being a woman is subjective because every woman's experience is different from each other.Which means anyone can be a woman and in that sense the word is meaningless.

It's a post modern view of the world. While post modernism can be fun in art and fiction, it's much harder to apply to real life since surprise! real life and fiction still have separate rules from each other.

You can see a rift in the trans kingdom form due to the different schools of thought justifying gender.

1. Trans people are biologically predisposed to this and their brains develop as woman/men brains. Favored by trans medicalist and anyone trying to sneak it past their parents.
2. Gender is broken into "Bio-sex", "Gender presenation", and "Feels Gender", with feels gender being the gendered soul in their head saying something's not right. I say "soul" as their is no scientific evidence supporting this. Favored by a majority of trans people.
3. Gender is imposed artificially by society and there's really no difference.
4. Sex is a thing but we should use hormones and surgery to change our bodies as much as we like and make the insurance companies pay for it. Sex, gender, and all that are fake, only your preferred presentation matters. If you get off to misgendering but want to be called zir/she everywhere else it's your fucking right to be.
5. HRT literally feminized my body so even my Y chromosomes are feminine (see: Kevin Gibes). HRT is life to these people and even though you could replace it with an anti-depressant and they wouldn't notice the change these people believe they would licherally die off their meds.

How many stand by these beliefs? There are very, very few who stand by until death over these. Female enbies get jitters when having to share a living space with trans fems. Straight male transbians can't bring themselves to be much other than prison gay if they aren't pseudo-bisexual and drop males as soon as real woman pussy appears. Gay male transbians hardly see themselves in a group of women rather than a gal pal or two, they usually feel too emvious of straight women. The line drops usually when trans people feel sexually threatened and it keeps being hilarious over and over again when it does.

But there are literal differences between the sexes that wouldn't stop existing even if every single person on Earth believed that they didn't exist. Changing the way society treats you won't change that. And if you can't accept that then you will never be happy, no matter how much society accommodates you.

Some people won't care they're not happy: they want to be in control, and they want to be right. These people won't change, fight back against them.

I guess my random thought and musing is that as someone who was a lukewarm ally until recently I feel taken advantage of. Troons prey on the empathy of others but they don't seem to give a lot of empathy out.

It's why I don't like trans people unless they participate in other causes beyond "traaaAAAANSSSSS". You're a woman? Thanks, help us support single mothers leaving abusive fathers or alternative birth control rights, or women in 3rd world countries being shat on. You're a man? Shouldn't you be helping support other men instead of degrading them? You are a lesbian/gay? Why force sexuality on someone who says no to a set of genitals? They'll never love you like you want them to.

It's bullshit. They usually don't care about men or women specific issues unless that's their birth sex or they can make it all about THEM (as in "I COULD HAVE A BIOMECHANICAL UTERUS AND NEED AN ABORTION ONE DAY"). Most support is superficial.

 

[OneMillionRPM]

why do so many of them acknowledge they have autism, OCD, eating disorders, sexual (c)PSTD etc. and just not make the connection?

Thing is, they do. They just swap cause and effect or otherwise have their logic all wrong. Like "I was bullied/abused because I was trans and didn't know it (i.e. wasn't 100% in line with the stereotypical male)" rather than "I was bullied/abused which stunted me socially, leading me to hang out more on the internet where I got pressured into trooning out". Or with autism, they always make that argument about autists not getting social norms such as gender, when the reality is (once again) that they spend enough time online to divorce them from reality.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I have a zero depth frankenpussy and i think its kinda cool.

See this is why people lose sympathy for you fucks. Shit like this, what makes you think anyone let alone people on this Forum, would want to hear about your zero depth fucking stinkditch?
You deliberately try to gross people out and shove your AGP shit under peoples noses for attention.
I know you're having some kind of mental health crisis at the minute, but you need people to be honest with you, and this sort of shit is what makes people disgusted with you guys.
Take care of yourself, make sure you're eating and drinking enough water and try to get outside for a walk once a day.
You'll get through this. Whatever this is.

 

[Jacques1194]

AMHOLIO​

I don't even think TRAs really believe anything they say because whenever i ask them a question they usually reply back with something like"You're thinking too deeply into it".Either that or they say something that contradicts another belief they have about gender.Such as it being both a neurological issue or a social construct.In fact, the other day i asked them if gender is really a mind/body disconnect then how do non male/female gender identities come into this?If were to believe a trans woman is a woman trapped inside a man's body(and vice versa with TIFs) then does that mean non binaries are sexless beings trapped inside a biological sex's body?How do genderfluid people come into this?They turn around and say i'm making it sound complicated and go back to it being a social construct and how one expresses themselves.Which if that's the case then that goes back into what i asked before.Whats the point of taking drugs and surgery if its a social construct?Especially when TIFs themselves are perfectly ok with getting pregnant and giving birth.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The whole phenomenon of preverted men suddenly wanting to be a wahman or a trans "girl" is disturbing. It really shows how mentally ill the population is, and how society has become an open air asylum that celebrates it.

 

[Inside your walls]

Sometimes, I wonder if Big Pharma is calling the shots with this movement.

I'm late asf but you would be correct. The reason why the pharma industry values troons a lot is same the reason as the Tech industry does.
Jersh did talked about this and I think it's worth mentioning it here, but basically he explained that the reason why Tech Industry/Silicon Valley are so insistent on hiring trannies which can be applied to why Pharma sees them as a worthy investment:

• They are autistic, in dedication category but also autistic in the social category, because most of them fail to recognize when people are exploiting and using them for their own means, with usually them not questioning this at all.
  
  
  
• They don't have their own family. Meaning the employers can pay them low pay and don't have to worry about increasing or even giving them days off/parental leave like in situations when one of their employees are expecting children or has get off work in case emergency happening with their family. In Pharma's counterpart the no family means that the troon will most likely spend their income on their pharma drugs.
  
  
  
• No friends or extended family, this part is similar to the family aspect but plays more into social aspect. Trannies usually do not have any friends or extended families due to the fact they most likely cut them off because they weren't accepting of them fucking up their life, meaning there is nobody to look out for them, give them an outside opinion or point out how they are being exploited. There's no outside intervention.
  
  
  
• They never ask nothing in return. As long as they're identities and pronouns are validated, they don't care.

AMHOLIO​

I don't even think TRAs really believe anything they say because whenever i ask them a question they usually reply back with something like"You're thinking too deeply into it".Either that or they say something that contradicts another belief they have about gender.Such as it being both a neurological issue or a social construct.In fact, the other day i asked them if gender is really a mind/body disconnect then how do non male/female gender identities come into this?If were to believe a trans woman is a woman trapped inside a man's body(and vice versa with TIFs) then does that mean non binaries are sexless beings trapped inside a biological sex's body?How do genderfluid people come into this?They turn around and say i'm making it sound complicated and go back to it being a social construct and how one expresses themselves.Which if that's the case then that goes back into what i asked before.Whats the point of taking drugs and surgery if its a social construct?Especially when TIFs themselves are perfectly ok with getting pregnant and giving birth.

The worst offenders of TRA for me at least are the "Well because I didn't have bad experiences with trans people I will support them, despite hearing stories of how people constantly got fucked by them" and the "I don't give a shit how me advocating for trannies affects others and I won't care for repercussions as long as it doesn't affect me" types. They only get upset when they get affected.


It's an extremely selfish mindset, handmaidens usually fall in former and male TRAs fall in latter, added with spice of "I am going to violently shit from my mouth by deliberately and maliciously misinterpreting women's issues with trannies to be something hysterical/neurotic/madwomanish, berate women for not wanting men in their spaces and then tell to just bend over for wholesome trannies"

 

[Whitney Houston On Crack]

How do you imagine the smell?

Mild powerlevel. Vivid imagery spoilered. Edit: Well, shit, the spoiler tags do not seem to work, sorry.

A few years ago, my ex-girlfriend's dad had some pretty bad prostate problems. He had a procedure in which the doctors pretty much inserted a miniature blowtorch through his dickhole and literally burned off some prostate growths or whatever. His recovery was really fucking slow and tedious. He was in pain, he couldn't piss properly and his daily life was pretty much agony. But the worst thing was the smell. HIS ENTIRE HOUSE smelled like burned dick for like a solid month. And holy fuck, it was a POTENT smell. You could really smell his dick from like THREE ROOMS AWAY. I can't describe it fully because the smell is like really... I don't know... specific, but I'll try. Imagine the smell of a freshly slaughtered cow, combined with the smell of a really wet hairy street dog and dry human shit.

That's what I imagine is how troon pussy smells like, because technically, they are made from the same ingredients (butchered dick insides).

Nevertheless, it's only the second worst smell I've ever experienced. The worst is when I visited my dad in the morgue (he used to work there), and while I was there, they brought the bodies of some African migrants that died in a really hot truck and were left there in the heat for like 3 or 4 days.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Well, those seven letters appear in that order on my driver's license. Not sure about the true and honest woman part...

i have a zero depth frankenpussy and i think its kinda cool.

Why are you still here if not to seek attention and indulge in your humiliation fetish like every other degenerate troon?

 

[Real Mayun]

That was originally two posts. Putting them together gives them a weird context.

 

[Procrastinhater]

But the worst thing was the smell. HIS ENTIRE HOUSE smelled like burned dick for like a solid month. And holy fuck, it was a POTENT smell. You could really smell his dick from like THREE ROOMS AWAY

You nearly suffocated me with laughter. I legit could not breath.
Thats not only the most disgusting thing I have read in many a day but described so vividly I just nearly had an asthma attack laughing and I don't have asthma.
That is so fucked up.
Shoved a mini blow torch down his dick hole what the fuck lol.
How is that a medical procedure thats fucking horrific.

 

[teriyakiburns]

How is that a medical procedure thats fucking horrific.

It's called prostate ablation. They destroy excess cells (usually benign tumour cells) inside the prostate, either with a laser, or with super-heated steam.

 

[Sissyagamben]

I remember reading a transwidow story where the woman said that before her husband transitioned, he couldn't help with the dishes because he was watching sports, but after he transitioned, he couldn't help with the dishes because he was doing his nails. For married males at least, transitioning has become a socially acceptable way to escape responsibility. Pre-transition, these men knew that being irresponsible, lazy, perverted men who took little/no responsibility was a bad thing, but transitioning allows them to justify these bad behaviours because their idea of being a woman is being a passive, vain sex object with no agency.

Would have posted this in the Chrischan gender bs thread, but it's kinda retarded and dead there. I really believe Chris trooned out because he was forced to be "the man of the house." It's absolutely not a coincidence he started the tomgirl shit when Bob was dying, and fully trooned out after he died. I don't think it's a hiding it till dad wasn't in control thing. After Bob died Chris constantly talked about how he had much more freedom when dad was alive, and how everyone should be a kid at heart. Especially in a conservative Christian household he grew up in, the expectation for the man to provide and protect must be high. And no matter what, he HAD to take care of Barb, she's old as shit. But nah, he's actually a lesbian transwoman, and the lady shouldn't be expected to take care of anything important.

See this is why people lose sympathy for you fucks. Shit like this, what makes you think anyone let alone people on this Forum, would want to hear about your zero depth fucking stinkditch?
You deliberately try to gross people out and shove your AGP shit under peoples noses for attention.
I know you're having some kind of mental health crisis at the minute, but you need people to be honest with you, and this sort of shit is what makes people disgusted with you guys.
Take care of yourself, make sure you're eating and drinking enough water and try to get outside for a walk once a day.
You'll get through this. Whatever this is.

Honestly I get how he has to cope af even more than the average troon, he's already cut off his dick as a sacrifice to the ideology. How does anyone live normally after? If coping is what's stopping him from rope, I'd say...let him cope... He will get his deserved stickers and replies here...

 

[Dr. Funk]

Well, those seven letters appear in that order on my driver's license. Not sure about the true and honest woman part...

i have a zero depth frankenpussy and i think its kinda cool.

Wait wait wait, what? Is this bait? Or is the user who started the single biggest tranny bashing thread on this site (Tranny Sideshows on Social Media) a troon himself!?

 

[Procrastinhater]

Wait wait wait, what? Is this bait? Or is the user who started the single biggest tranny bashing thread on this site (Tranny Sideshows on Social Media) a troon himself!?

He seems to be experiencing a Crisis of Faith at the minute.
The OP on page 1 of this thread has had a note added explaining it, but in effect, yes, the OP of one of the most successful troon shitting threads on the site is apparently a True and Honest Troon himself.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

He seems to be experiencing a Crisis of Faith at the minute.
The OP on page 1 of this thread has had a note added explaining it, but in effect, yes, the OP of one of the most successful troon shitting threads on the site is apparently a True and Honest Troon himself.

Same exact vibe of the Boondocks' Uncle Ruckus joining the KKK, really.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

there is nobody to look out for them, give them an outside opinion or point out how they are being exploited. There's no outside intervention.

Ive mentioned this before in the SRS thread; from a legal POV, troons are also perfect for exploiting. Since they're mentally ill and unstable anyways, the treat of a lawsuit decreases. They're financially poor since they cut off everyone so finding and paying for competent counsel becomes impossible. Even if that does happen, good luck putting a troon in front of a jury and expect them to be taken seriously. They're narcissistic, repulsive and so delusional that it becomes easy to blame them for any issues that arise.
Oh, and SRS is so complex they become borderline disabled and lifelong customers for the medical industry, more $$$ for everyone.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Here's a thought. Despite reddit claiming to buy into the TWAW hype and letting troons take over all the female subreddits like r/TwoXChromosomes reddit can still tell the difference when it comes to coomerism.


I kind of stole this thought from the ladies at Lolcow.Farm. But it's true. Porn subs for coomering to cis women and to trannies are kept strictly segregated.

 

[Jarry Seinfelt]

Here's my thought: the thing I really don't get, and I haven't seen much discussion of here, is the hate they all have for detransitioners. Not just troons, but almost all lefties seemingly despise detransitioners. Whenever a detrans person publicly talks about regretting their transition or they detransition, hundreds of people dogpile them on social media.

"They weren't really trans in the first place?" okay, so they were valid while they were acting in a way you agreed with, and now they disagree so they're less than people; The Enemy? You can't un-black or un-white or un-Asian yourself but you can un-"I have a woman's brain" yourself? Yeah that's just too far for me. There's no similar. Saying that race is a spectrum doesn't really work, being a hapa or whatever doesn't have any health complications like being XXY does (unless you look at Reddit).

"They're being used as transphobic propaganda by the right wing" – saw this one when that one TiF detransitioner went on Tucker. If every left/progressive media outlet is ignoring or shunning you, but Tucker Carlson offers you the chance to share your story, why wouldn't you go on Tucker instead? I watched Tucker's interview with that woman and she came off as totally reasonable. She wasn't advocating for TTD or anything like that. If anything, my ideological bias is against Tucker but he just gave her the chance to tell her story. So if apparently letting them speak is transphobic, that's just fucking insane. For what it's worth I've seen other left/center/apolitical people say similar stuff – the right-wingers they met were more accepting of them. IIRC there's research on this; generally while right wingers are bigger on austerity and self reliance, they also give more to charity and their social circles are fairly diverse. I lean more left wing but I'm not going to identify as being a leftist or progressive or social democrat because that's stupid and people are more than their politics.

I just don't see any reasonable explanation for the way they act towards detroons, aside that it's a social contagion that's undermined everyone to the left of George Bush.

 

[Procrastinhater]

They hate detransitioners because they show up the lie of the entire Transgender Cult.
They also speak truths about how nasty, perverse, selfish, and twisted the movement is, and coming from people who used to be part of it its harder for them to just use the "bigot" thought silencing defense.
Basically, detransitions show the troons a mirror, and theres nothing a troon hates more than mirrors.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Here's my thought: the thing I really don't get, and I haven't seen much discussion of here, is the hate they all have for detransitioners. Not just troons, but almost all lefties seemingly despise detransitioners. Whenever a detrans person publicly talks about regretting their transition or they detransition, hundreds of people dogpile them on social media. [...]

I just don't see any reasonable explanation for the way they act towards detroons, aside that it's a social contagion that's undermined everyone to the left of George Bush.

They're just treating us in accordance with their doctrine. One of the central tenets of trans ideology is the belief that transgenderism is an inborn characteristic - you're either born a tranny or you aren't, and nothing can be done to change that. It's not possible for people to stop being trans, so detransitioners must be either dumb cis people or trannies in denial, and why should cis people be allowed to speak on the Trans Experience™? Troons need people to see "transgender" as an immutable trait like "black" or "gay" so they have something to blame all their failures on. This is why they scream genocide when children are prevented from trooning out.

Another thing is that trannies get by on people not understanding them all too well. When they claim that gender dysphoria is incurable, or that they're "finding their true self", the average person is generally willing to take them at their word. Detroons naturally know a lot more about trans stuff so they're harder to deal with.

It's perhaps because of this that trans people are obsessed with preventing detransitioners from speaking against them. Check out the subreddit they made in response to the main detrans sub being too TERFy - they're ok with us as long as we still respect their pronouns and don't question things too hard. (lmao at them calling it "ACTUAL detrans" when the mod team is primarily trannies)