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[Seafarer]

how the incel j'accuse crowd is doing the exact same thing as those they mock by treating sex as some ultimate accomplishment.

Insults are inherently meant to dehumanize. If leftists were truly about peace and love and shit they wouldn’t use ANY insults, but getting hung up on leftist hypocrisy is a pointless endeavor.

Anyone who uses incel sincerely just tells me they have never actually thought about what labels they try to tack onto people they hate.

My understanding is that “Incel” was originally a term used sincerely by people who identified as “Incels” (or were involved in such communities), that later got turned into a pejorative. Sort of like a reverse of “queer”.

Even worse is "volcel" as if celibacy isn't voluntary by definition.

Are you talking about the use of “volcel” as an insult or about the word itself? I have never heard it used as an insult.

This is without getting into how stupid vilifying virginity actually is

Uhhh, this seems like a very insecure statement. Like it or not but nowadays virginity (at a certain age) is something that deviates from the social norm (or at least stereotypes about the social norm) so of course it’s going to be used as an insult.

Incel was never a good insult.

To each their own. I don’t think it’s as good an insult as “Cuck”, but definitely find it a better insult than “Chud” (which is some sort of reference to an 80s horror movie? What’s insulting about that? It can literally be used on anyone so why is it supposed to insult right-wingers in particular? Ohhh right leftists just wanted to emulate the success of “Cuck” as an insult, so they came up with a similar sounding word that had zero inherent meaning to it instead of using a better word that did, but wouldn’t sound similar to “Cuck”)

 

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My understanding is that “Incel” was originally a term used sincerely by people who identified as “Incels” (or were involved in such communities), that later got turned into a pejorative.

History books are full of spiteful labels tacked onto groups of weird young men. Normalfags desperate to maintain their meager station will always find lazy ways to project their most a-log-y impulses onto people they view as easy targets. Malakia, dandy, macaroni, punk, cuckold, etc. are all examples of this. In the case of incel it stems from a woman who wanted to start a virtual newsletter for people who have trouble getting laid. She has since been shamed by the same groups & people who have twisted the (still very retarded) label incel into a synonym for terrorist.

Are you talking about the use of “volcel” as an insult or about the word itself?

Volcel is redundant. It's like asking a waiter for wet water. Celibacy is an oath so it may only be voluntary.

Uhhh, this seems like a very insecure statement. Like it or not but nowadays virginity (at a certain age) is something that deviates from the social norm (or at least stereotypes about the social norm) so of course it’s going to be used as an insult.

Not having sex isn't rare anymore. Incel is a go-to insult because the nebbish people who shove their friends & family & fellow tribesmen into roles or jobs they aren't any good at have decided that everything had to be flipped. No more minstrel shows. No more laughing at men wearing dresses. No more mockery or satire of everyone equally. But those white boys who are so pathetic they couldn't even harness their heckin' privilege to get a date? They & the Ku Klux Klan are the only groups no one has any apprehension towards mockery anymore. If you point this out well then clearly you must be an incel klansman rather than someone who's pointing out hypocrisy.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Volcel is redundant. It's like asking a waiter for wet water. Celibacy is an oath so it may only be voluntary.

That is true, however word 'volcel' is just a logical conclusion of the creation of word 'incel' (involuntare celibate).

Not having sex isn't rare anymore.

With pr0n being so prevalent in modern age and the breakdown of social structures, it isn't really that surprising that many people just opt out of the relationships. In east asian countries this issue is even worse.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

He so obviously is someone who has his beliefs due to being excessively coddled in his upbringing, probably combined with the self-loathing trait that Uncle Ted so correctly correlated with leftist politics.

I think he admitted to being raised by a single mother, and he directly attributes his own lib-feminist beliefs on her and what she taught him when growing up.

 

[Chandelier]

Noah Samsen, who looks more and more like Gary Ridgeway every day with his 1970s rapist hairstyle, decides to pick beef with DecoyVoice, ItsaGundam and NickMercs. Why? All because they want kids to be out of pride parades/queer ideology. The comments are filled with people admitting they were raped by males, many school teachers, without realizing what they are saying. Archive below.

Noah's main source is a FAIR news article that attempts to say the Armenian parents were in actuality white supremacists and were Jan. 6 supporters. Link / Archive

While the Times (6/6/23) did note that the Proud Boys, a violent far-right group, had reportedly been on-hand at the protest, it also lumped activists on each side together, reporting that “hundreds of protesters had swarmed outside the building, some waving American flags and others waving Pride flags.” It suggested that the transphobic activists were motivated by concern for their children, noting that “those who were protesting the board’s LGBTQ+ policies chanted, ‘Leave our kids alone’ while naming each of the five members of the board.”

They continue, arguing that opposition to LGBT shit is a minority in their community. There is still no mention of the Armenian parents involved.

Elizabeth Vitanza, a Glendale school district parent, told FAIR that the LA Times has missed an opportunity to put the conflict into context, especially as it pertains to Henry. She said:

The problem is they are not framing this for what it is: an extremist with no children in the schools here, connecting with other extremists like Proud Boys and January 6 insurgents to use our small, successful school district to raise his profile.
Vitanza added, “I find it incredibly frustrating that they don’t look at who’s behind it, just showing fighting in parking lots.”
She criticized a kind of “he said, she said” reporting that portrayed the two sides as equally legitimate voices on either side of the issue. For example, the LA Times (6/6/23) wrote: “GUSD Parents Voices, a conservative group, called for parents to attend Tuesday’s meeting, posting: ‘Join the fight against indoctrination in our schools.’” That sentence was followed by “LGBTQ+ advocacy organization glendaleOUT also urged supporters to attend Tuesday’s meeting.”
In fact, sources told FAIR, the Glendale community largely supports LGBTQ rights in schools, and many of the protesters against the school board were organized by the larger national right-wing push against LGBTQ inclusion.

They end with this tidbit and a dash of gaslighting.

Anti-trans rhetoric—and a larger outrage about LGBTQ “grooming,” the idea that education about the existence and rights of sexual minorities is somehow conditioning kids into a certain sexual way of life—is a major part of the contemporary right’s cultural agenda. And that’s amplified in the right’s corporate media (FAIR.org, 1/6/23, 3/30/23). But as the LA Times‘ coverage of the attacks on Glendale’s Pride commemoration shows, centrist elements of the corporate media can also inflict harm when their framing over-amplifies the right’s crusade against an incredibly marginalized segment of the population.

The classic "we are not grooming your kids, but we are, and you will like it." Forget the shit they are actually teaching in schools - it's just transphobia. These people act as if we haven't seen the materials or the receipts. "We're just teaching your kids" is cope. They're teaching them that if boys wear pink they're actually girls, and tomboys are actually boys.

Noah, as stated before, has a deep bone to pick with ItsAGundam, and has made shots at him before. Gundam has never acknowledged him, and the only time someone has ever responded to Noah so far has been Patience Xina, and she is a black woman who asked why he, a white man, is speaking for her.

He posts no other sources. He also got into a spat with Think Before You Sleep, who only responded to him in a community post. Honestly, I don't blame him for not wanting to get into a fight with this rapist lookalike. He's insufferable and accuses his opposition of making things up when he does it all the time.

I got a Maggie Mae Fish video in my recommended today - I remember people were trying to make her a thing a few years ago and it didn't work. She tends to have remarkably dumb takes and cherrypicks a bunch of stuff to make her argument (she's also on Nebula, shocker!).

I can't archive this although it's not worth a hatewatch. Some slight acknowledgement of Clint being interesting, lots of talk about how he's "problematic", attributing text on the box cover of Dirty Harry to him (?), incoherent male role model nonsense.

I did some searching and even on places like the Breadtube Reddit people seem to not really like her, even the comments on this video are not entirely having it. I'm wondering if she has a history that I'm not aware of besides being bad.

I got you, fam.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

"Your the real grifters"

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Noah Samsen, who looks more and more like Gary Ridgeway every day with his 1970s rapist hairstyle, decides to pick beef with DecoyVoice, ItsaGundam and NickMercs. Why? All because they want kids to be out of pride parades/queer ideology. The comments are filled with people admitting they were raped by males, many school teachers, without realizing what they are saying. Archive below.

This guy is my personal breadtube cow, I hate this guy so fucking much. Hes the second most annoying and smug after bomberguy, I would bomb the fuck out of both of them if I could. Such a misinformed misrepresenting commie soyboy who lies through his teeth so much and constantly tries to pick drama by making reaction videos on other peoples content, calls it "clout sharking" the fucking nigger.

 

[LeChampion1992]

"Your the real grifters"

You're evil grifters for being successful with your political ideology.

People like second thought, thought slime, Fredda, and nearly all the funky bunch are horrible people.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Shaun has a new longform video seething about the totally non-TERF anti-feminist Posie Parker - neo-nazi alliance.
May it blossom into something beautiful!
And then smash that Daily Wire cuckservatism to pieces - minus Matt Walsh. He can be salvaged. Unlike the perennially crying JBP.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You're evil grifters for being successful with your political ideology.

People like second thought, thought slime, Fredda, and nearly all the funky bunch are horrible people.

Words could not describe how viscerally MATI I got when I saw the Patreon stats for some of those people.

 

[Chandelier]

Shaun has a new longform video seething about the totally non-TERF anti-feminist Posie Parker - neo-nazi alliance.
May it blossom into something beautiful!
And then smash that Daily Wire cuckservatism to pieces - minus Matt Walsh. He can be salvaged. Unlike the perennially crying JBP.

I called it. Shaun couldn't resist painting her as a Neo Nazi, even when the greasy troons didn't pick a fight with them at her talks. They only picked a fight with the women.

Let me guess. He glossed over the Auckland fight, where the old woman is seen on video getting punched in the face.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

So Shaun’s stated purpose for the video was to explain why the far-right show up at TERF events. He gets to that about an hour and 40 minutes into the video after using all that time to accuse Parker of being dishonest and manipulative in her actions and rhetoric, suggesting that she has ulterior motives. His claim for why the far-right show up at TERF events is an assumption that similar rhetoric equates to similar motives.

He uses Nazi newspapers discussing how Magnus’s Herschfeld talking to high schoolers about homosexuality was corrupting the youth at the behest of Jewish elite and compares it to Parker/far-right/religious right/conservatives talking about modern schools teaching gender topics in schools is corrupting the youth at the behest of international elites. Both groups talk about skull shapes and a need to push these corrupting elements out of society. So his conclusion is that the far-right show up to TERF events because Nazis and TERFs somewhat share similar beliefs and ultimately, the same goal of extermination of minorities.

Which is bat-shit fucking insane! By that flimsy logic I could compare Trotskyists to Christians because they both have an ideology of reaching out to the world and spreading a message of hope for a better world and the equality of all humans.

Honestly, Shaun answered his question at the beginning. The reason that the far-right show up is because Parker had an open platform and the far-right have been banned from all other platforms so they go to the only avenues open to them. We’ve seen that time and time again online. More to the point, the far-right and TERFs ally because they share a common opponent in transgenders though entirely for different reasons as the far-right want the traditional family structure and TERFs want woman-only spaces. That alliance dies the second the issue is over.

But Shaun knows his audience. They want affirmation that their enemies are stupid and evil. They want to know that their enemies are a legacy of a great evil that will eternally seek to destroy them, justifying the belief in their own righteousness and the morality of their actions against their enemies. Herr Goebbels would be proud of this Brit.

 

[Chandelier]

So Shaun’s stated purpose for the video was to explain why the far-right show up at TERF events. He gets to that about an hour and 40 minutes into the video after using all that time to accuse Parker of being dishonest and manipulative in her actions and rhetoric, suggesting that she has ulterior motives. His claim for why the far-right show up at TERF events is an assumption that similar rhetoric equates to similar motives

You sat through those two hours? Respect. I'd have to watch it in 30 minute increments to make way for hate notes.

He did this during his Bell Curve video. He admitted he was being dishonest and misinterpreted the book, and Ryan Faulk of AltHype responded to him. He is the only one whose response Shaun has privatized, that's how anal he is over those videos.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

You sat through those two hours? Respect. I'd have to watch it in 30 minute increments to make way for hate notes.

He did this during his Bell Curve video. He admitted he was being dishonest and misinterpreted the book, and Ryan Faulk of AltHype responded to him. He is the only one whose response Shaun has privatized, that's how anal he is over those videos.

Oh, no I skimmed through parts of it. I have watched enough Shaun to know his style: make the target of the video look like a fool with hidden, dangerous motives. No tackling of the arguments or understanding rationale, His point is a suggestion that Posie Parker, and the TERFs are basically Nazis and want to kill the LGBTQ+ community like the Nazis wanted to do with the Jews.

He says that obsession with biology (the shape of skulls, etc) is a connection between Nazis and TERFs. Yes, he is claiming the factual differences in the biological make-up of men and women that TERFs use is much like the racial pseudoscience that the Nazis used to justify discrimination.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Words could not describe how viscerally MATI I got when I saw the Patreon stats for some of those people.

Being a bread tuber pays more because you can easily make videos on how White surpremacy is bad and being pro USA is fascism and bad. But don't you dare make that video about the real history of the Spanish civil war or else you need to be deplatformed for hate.

 

[Chandelier]

He says that obsession with biology (the shape of skulls, etc) is a connection between Nazis and TERFs. Yes, he is claiming the factual differences in the biological make-up of men and women that TERFs use is much like the racial pseudoscience that the Nazis used to justify discrimination.

This retard isn't even aware that such focus on skulls is present in papers on facial feminization surgery. Those works all involved the differences between male and female skulls.

Troons just love using this argument. I suppose the shoe fits: their neovaginas all come from a Nazi scientist who worked at Dachau.

 

[Dirk Dinkum]

We have a mini breadtube crossover going on the Quinton Reviews thread with a couple faces you may recognize.
Flowergothic (the tranny looking woman that made a video on KF) released a week ago an expose of Quinton Reviews being an incompetent boss. It can be best summarized as a lack of communication and the bitch sacrificing real life things to get Q's autistic iCarly videos done in a timely manner. The video received support from Dan Olson and Lady Emily, both associated with people once on the receiving end of unwanted DMs by Quinton.
2 days later, Quinton releases a response outing her as a stalker that tried and failed to become his girlfriend. Flowergothic has blocked further replies and the big video essayists have backtracked. Q went to the trouble of answering to any joke comment that questioned if he was really innocent. Q has been seething since the video was released and is repeating his MO from the DM saga. A conspiracy around if this was a set up done by the leftist council has taken root.

If you want to see the discussion about it, start here.

TL; DR:

 

[LeChampion1992]

I called it. Shaun couldn't resist painting her as a Neo Nazi, even when the greasy troons didn't pick a fight with them at her talks. They only picked a fight with the women.

Let me guess. He glossed over the Auckland fight, where the old woman is seen on video getting punched in the face.

You know I miss the days when being a neo Nazi meant white, skinhead/larper and being solely Jews are evil and etc...

Oh, no I skimmed through parts of it. I have watched enough Shaun to know his style: make the target of the video look like a fool with hidden, dangerous motives. No tackling of the arguments or understanding rationale, His point is a suggestion that Posie Parker, and the TERFs are basically Nazis and want to kill the LGBTQ+ community like the Nazis wanted to do with the Jews.

He says that obsession with biology (the shape of skulls, etc) is a connection between Nazis and TERFs. Yes, he is claiming the factual differences in the biological make-up of men and women that TERFs use is much like the racial pseudoscience that the Nazis used to justify discrimination.

Wasn't Shaun a idiot who complained about alt furry back in the day.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

You think Shaun knows about what Jen is doing behind his back or has he just stopped being in a relationship with her? With the Hunter Avallone stuff i'm wondering if Shaun will get exposed as a cuckold if he hasn't already.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Being a bread tuber pays more because you can easily make videos on how White surpremacy is bad and being pro USA is fascism and bad. But don't you dare make that video about the real history of the Spanish civil war or else you need to be deplatformed for hate.

They straight up deletes any wrongthing that the algorithm detects no matter how respectful you are wording it. If you comment anything other than "white males bad blacks good, i love lgbt, i love consuming products" there's a high chance that the comment gets automatically deleted by the AI mod in a split second. I imagine as a youtuber if you rock the boat even a bit even if you manage to bend over to not get the video shut down your engagement is gonna be abismal