Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

[WelperHelper99]

Well I just keep hearing Tate is an abusive pimp, then on my Twitter feed a video of Tate came up. He was calling one of his girls. He made up a fake story saying he had a problem with cashflow at the moment, he needed $10,000 within the next half hour. The girl said "yeah sure that's fine just send me the bank details".

Now apparently these trafficked, abused Women Tate has. Have at least $10,000 on hand at any moment.

Yeah that's a crime. Extortion and manipulation. He did a bit more than that to get them hooked, notably fucking them. You sound like this

Dude, he's a rapist human trafficker that somehow got caught in one of the most corrupt shitholes on earth. He's bad.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Dude, he's a rapist human trafficker that somehow got caught in one of the most corrupt shitholes on earth. He's bad.

Okay thats fair. So why did they hold him for 90 days with no charge? Should've been a slam dunk. It's fucking Romania. Surely it's corrupt enough to cut through the red tape and just start getting evidence no matter what?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Okay thats fair. So why did they hold him for 90 days with no charge? Should've been a slam dunk. It's fucking Romania. Surely it's corrupt enough to cut through the red tape and just start getting evidence no matter what.

It's called he fucked around so hard they want to make a example of him. First rule of playing with the mafia is you don't speak of them. He did. Now they're gonna fuck his ass raw.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

It's called he fucked around so hard they want to make a example of him. First rule of playing with the mafia is you don't speak of them. He did. Now they're gonna fuck his ass raw.

Then he should just be dead. Not giving 2 hour interviews under house arrest to Tucker Carlson, which is then promoted by Elon Musk. He should already be in the ground if what you are saying is true.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Then he should just be dead. Not giving 2 hour interviews under house arrest to Tucker Carlson, which is then promoted by Elon Musk. He should already be in the ground if what you are saying is true.

Kinda hard when he's constantly on social media 24/7 talking about the matrix coming to get him. Having the law find actual crimes he's done makes all parties happy, and the mafia can go back to slipping bribes to sleepy cops while this bald idiot distracts the world.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Kinda hard when he's constantly on social media 24/7 talking about the matrix coming to get him. Having the law find actual crimes he's done makes all parties happy, and the mafia can go back to slipping bribes to sleepy cops while this bald idiot distracts the world.

What? A Democrat staffer in America was found tied to a tree with a shotgun blast. The justice system ruled it a suicide. The shotgun was found 30 feet away from the scene.

That's America. I'm pretty sure in Romania if they want you dead, you are fucking dead. No questions asked.

 

[Lowercase I internet]

You make it out like Women are fucking children who can't control their emotions and have no agency of their own though. Like is Tate an incompetent lolcow or some master manipulator that would make Charles Manson run out of the room in fear?

I'm just fascinated by this dichotomy when these arguments come up.

How do you hold seemingly two opposite opinions at the same time?

Thanks for the question. I'll do my best to answer it in a clear way. I hope this helps.

Tate has admitted to getting women to fall in love with him in order to exploit that love and trust to put them in situations that makes it difficult for them to break away. A person using emotional manipulation to pin somebody down to do something they usually wouldn't do isn't a new phenomenon, nor is it all that difficult. Tate is just retarded enough to admit to it. This isn't just a woman thing either. There's plenty of guys I know who get into relationships with a seemingly normal girl, devote a lot of time to them, and then all of a sudden they reveal a crazy side or personality they don't like. It's a sunk cost fallacy approach.

Here's a good example. If you watch MATI you may be familiar with the Womb Envy episode. Basically, there's a phenomenon where when a long term couple experiences pregnancy the husband will get the urge to troon out and comes out as trans to the wife. The wife is put in an uncomfortable situation as they feel both betrayed but cannot leave their husband due to expecting a newborn and not wanting it to be without a second parent. It might also have to do with financial stability or burning previous bridges to enter said relationship.

This situation, while not involving troons, isn't too dissimilar. As admitted by Tate himself, he gets a chick to fall in love with him, fucks them, uses the trust gained to get them to become a camgirl and move in with him. After these women have committed to this lifestyle they can't really go back. The goal is to manipulate a person down to the point where they have nowhere else to go besides you, to literally break down their own agency. You control their money, their passports, and their lifestyle. What are they supposed to do? Go back to their eastern European family after becoming a literal camwhore? Even if they had control of their passports the culture would eat them alive and they would be disowned. There wouldn't be a case if some people didn't come forward with the knowledge that they were being extorted and couldn't get away from it. I highly encourage you to look into some of the messages between Tate and some of his camgirls if you haven't already. This isn't about "awwww look at the poor wahmens we gotta help them." It's quite literally a crime that should be looked down upon extensively and should be made an example.

 

[WelperHelper99]

What? A Democrat staffer in America was found tied to a tree with a shotgun blast. The justice system ruled it a suicide. The shotgun was found 30 feet away from the scene.

That's America. I'm pretty sure in Romania if they want you dead, you are fucking dead. No questions asked.

That staffer wasn't a multi millionaire with private jets and mansions to throw away after.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I highly encourage you to look into some of the messages between Tate and some of his camgirls if you haven't already. This isn't about "awwww look at the poor wahmens we gotta help them." It's quite literally a crime that should be looked down upon extensively and should be made an example.

Oh I fully expect Tate to have manipulated Women in some way to drive the camgirl industry that he takes a cut from. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that the Women who he calls who have $10,000 on hand for a loan to him are "trapped".

So what you are essentially saying is that Tate is the Supervisor of the retard clinic, and the retards in the clinic are so fucking stupid they don't realize they can just turn the handle to leave the clinic and go outside.

Like you make it sound like if Tate wasn't there, they are so stupid, they would've already killed themselves by sticking a fork into an electrical socket as part of a TikTok challenge.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

Okay thats fair. So why did they hold him for 90 days with no charge? Should've been a slam dunk. It's fucking Romania. Surely it's corrupt enough to cut through the red tape and just start getting evidence no matter what?

What? A Democrat staffer in America was found tied to a tree with a shotgun blast. The justice system ruled it a suicide. The shotgun was found 30 feet away from the scene.

That's America. I'm pretty sure in Romania if they want you dead, you are fucking dead. No questions asked.

Contrary to popular belief, corruption isn't a magical status that turns a country into an anarchy. As much as some might want to see him gunned down Judge Dredd style, there is still a proper and legal way of doing things which is all the more important in a controversial case like this one.

Moreover Romania doesn't have a vested interest in destroying Andrew Tate. He's being investigated as a common criminal and all the usual procedures apply. The choice was made to jail him because he was deemed a flight risk, however they don't want to jail people without trial more than absolutely necessary (hence the move to house arrest). Even if they were willing to rip up everything and ransack the place for evidence, they would still need time to look at all of it and figure out what to charge him with.

I would be more shocked if the case was already decided. Even for a case like the Christchurch shooting, with a defendant who was openly and obviously guilty and a government which was angry at him, it took over a year to finish legal proceedings.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Contrary to popular belief, corruption isn't a magical status that turns a country into an anarchy. As much as some might want to see him gunned down Judge Dredd style, there is still a proper and legal way of doing things which is all the more important in a controversial case like this one.

Moreover Romania doesn't have a vested interest in destroying Andrew Tate. He's being investigated as a common criminal and all the usual procedures apply. The choice was made to jail him because he was deemed a flight risk, however they don't want to jail people without trial more than absolutely necessary (hence the move to house arrest). Even if they were willing to rip up everything and ransack the place for evidence, they would still need time to look at all of it and figure out what to charge him with.

I would be more shocked if the case was already decided. Even for a case like the Christchurch shooting, with a defendant who was openly and obviously guilty and a government which was angry at him, it took over a year to finish legal proceedings.

My interest isn't in Tate. It's more about exploring the opinions of the people that frequent this thread. And your explanation continues to enlighten me of the mindset you have. And what your conclusions are.

I'm bringing up contentious opinions to see what your responses are.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

So what you are essentially saying is that Tate is the Supervisor of the retard clinic, and the retards in the clinic are so fucking stupid they don't realize they can just turn the handle to leave the clinic and go outside.

And you, being a young woman, possibly drugged and stressed out of your mind, where the fuck are you going to go being left alone, no passport, in a country whose language you speak fuck all?
Gonna go to the first bar ask in English and call the cops?
Cops come, pick you up. They go to Tate, you call him a fag, he looks back at you and tells the cops he never saw you in his life.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

And you, being a young woman, possibly drugged and stressed out of your mind, where the fuck are you going to go being left alone, no passport, in a country whose language you speak fuck all?
Gonna go to the first bar ask in English and call the cops?
Cops come, pick you up. They go to Tate, you call him a fag, he looks back at you and tells the cops he never saw you in his life.

I accept your argument. Even though in possesion of at least $10,000 at any moment, they are powerless. Some schlub convinced them they are trapped and now they are. Women are children with no agency or forethought. How chauvanistic of you?

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

My interest isn't in Tate. It's more about exploring the opinions of the people that frequent this thread. And your explanation continues to enlighten me of the mindset you have. And what your conclusions are.

I'm bringing up contentious opinions to see what your responses are.

That's a fancy way of saying you're not arguing in good faith, and that you care more about being offensive than being correct.

You're in a lolcow thread on a drama site, playing out a shitty detective LARP by annoying people. You want to argue on behalf of a suspected human trafficker while trying to hold the moral high ground. You're acting like you're uninterested despite posting more than anyone else in the last 3 pages. What's your game here?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Do Americans have glowie blindness or something? Tate and Carlson both come from CIA families, their goal is making sure Americans have enough zogbots so they can go fight China in 7-10 years, that's why they're pushing the whole masculinity angle.

It's just funny how they couldn't find a real man for the job and instead had to use Tate, a balding chinlet.

 

[WelperHelper99]

That's a fancy way of saying you're not arguing in good faith, and that you care more about being offensive than being correct.

You're in a lolcow thread on a drama site, playing out a shitty detective LARP by annoying people. You want to argue on behalf of a suspected human trafficker while trying to hold the moral high ground. You're acting like you're uninterested despite posting more than anyone else in the last 3 pages. What's your game here?

The goal is trolling, or actually believing you can't fool women. Andrew Tate has been a disaster for the human race, becoming the strawman feminists screech about. Just treat people right. It's not hard.

 

[Sheogorath]

 

[Balalaika Z Bree]

Then he should just be dead. Not giving 2 hour interviews under house arrest to Tucker Carlson, which is then promoted by Elon Musk. He should already be in the ground if what you are saying is true.

Making an example of him doesn't always mean killing him, showing him and the world that they can withdraw protection is a flex in itself, and they probably extorted a generous gift out of him in exchange for his life. I agree, if they wanted him dead they'd find a way.

What? A Democrat staffer in America was found tied to a tree with a shotgun blast. The justice system ruled it a suicide. The shotgun was found 30 feet away from the scene.

That's America. I'm pretty sure in Romania if they want you dead, you are fucking dead. No questions asked.

I think calling hits willy-nilly is bad for business, makes it harder for the cops to stay out of their way. I think if Tate or anyone start leaking really sensitive material they'd try to silence them, permanently.

Do Americans have glowie blindness or something? Tate and Carlson both come from CIA families, their goal is making sure Americans have enough zogbots so they can go fight China in 7-10 years, that's why they're pushing the whole masculinity angle.

It's just funny how they couldn't find a real man for the job and instead had to use Tate, a balding chinlet.

His physiognomy is ideal for grooming/steering those who view themselves as ugly. If he were average looking he might be perceived as being dominant/successful/manly because of his looks. Such is the tragic state of fatherhood, brotherhood, and family for many duped by his lies.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Do Americans have glowie blindness or something? Tate and Carlson both come from CIA families, their goal is making sure Americans have enough zogbots so they can go fight China in 7-10 years, that's why they're pushing the whole masculinity angle.

It's just funny how they couldn't find a real man for the job and instead had to use Tate, a balding chinlet.

I don't know about Carlson. He says constant anti-establishment, anti-war, anti-deep state stuff. He shits on Russiagate and Biden, and generally spreads information that's basically the exact opposite of the interests of the CIA. He's spoken out against war with China and Russia, Ukraine support, etc.

Tate doesn't promote anything particularly useful for the CIA except maybe descent? Or an enemy for people to hate? Sometimes, for talking heads like Tate, you have to look more to the private sector than the public sector. It's likely he's being funded by some millionaire with a political agenda just like Jack Murphy was.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I don't know about Carlson. He says constant anti-establishment, anti-war, anti-deep state stuff. He shits on Russiagate and Biden, and generally spreads information that's basically the exact opposite of the interests of the CIA. He's spoken out against war with China and Russia, Ukraine support, etc.

Carlson's father was heavily involved in the US intelligence community, had connections to George H.W. Bush, even was the director of America's foreign propaganda network, Voice of America. Has CIA written all over him. Look it up, he has an interesting biography.

Tucker himself tried joining the CIA but "failed" and quickly became a propagandist, first working for CNN, then Fox, and now Elon Musk (DoD). Politics aside, he glows brighter than Chernobyl. If Tucker says something, you can be certain that Langley profits from it somehow.

Tate doesn't promote anything particularly useful for the CIA except maybe descent? Or an enemy for people to hate? Sometimes, for talking heads like Tate, you have to look more to the private sector than the public sector. It's likely he's being funded by some millionaire with a political agenda just like Jack Murphy was.

Just watch, next Tate is going to start pushing people to join the army because it's the masculine thing to do.