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[quaawaa]

With conservatives like these, who needs progressives?

https://justicereport.news/articles/2023/07/13/white-communities-face-black-violence-crime-after-texas-revokes-right-to-refuse-section-8-tenants/

https://archive.is/3aJih

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[Fluoxetine Man]

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Biden is one of the most pathetic excuses for a politician I can think of. This man doesn't represent anything except corruption, pedophilia and cognitive decline.

Would it kill Zelenskyy to wear a fucking suit when he goes over to take America's money? I know he's larping as Naked Snake, but even Snake wore a suit when he met politicians.

 

[Point 707]

That's why I hate how passive the pendulum talk is. It reminds me of the story of a man dying in a flood while he kept saying God would save him. Dude dies of course, and when he gets to heaven God says 'the fuck dude I gave you tons of outs but you have to actually do something.'

I hate to blackpill you, but what you see as the 'pendulum swinging back' is just an illusion caused by further leftward moving of the Overton Window. People who were once seen as left wing will suddenly seem right-wing not because those things actually came to their senses, but because the window has passed them by and they are now right-wing just by virtue of standing still.

 

[Breadbassket]

I hate to blackpill you, but what you see as the 'pendulum swinging back' is just an illusion caused by further leftward moving of the Overton Window. People who were once seen as left wing will suddenly seem right-wing not because those things actually came to their senses, but because the window has passed them by and they are now right-wing just by virtue of standing still.

To add to that I wonder how "the pendulum will swing eventually" rhetoric has gone since the 1970s for the Paleoconservatives?

 

[Omen_Sulk]

To add to that I wonder how "the pendulum will swing eventually" rhetoric has gone since the 1970s for the Paleoconservatives?

The pendulum is cope. It reveals that the person has a trust that the system is operating within normal parameters. And that the Government, the NGO's etc aren't actively pulling on the pendulum. Through various means like laws. Media output. And manipulating and creating consensus.

 

[Betonhaus]

The pendulum is cope. It reveals that the person has a trust that the system in operating within normal parameters. And that the Government, the NGO's etc aren't actively pulling on the pendulum. Through various means like laws. Media output. And manipulating and creating consensus.

I'm not sure... If it wasn't for the psyops forcing the pendulum further left there would've been much more pushback by now, as there was in the past. My recollection of American history is foggy but I do believe there were stretches between the end of slavery and the race riots and today where beliefs on liberal values bounced back and forth.

What I'm concerned is that the pendulum is not going left-right like a clock pendulum, but is more like a pumbline that can also go back and forth

When you keep forcing a 2d plumb in one direction, eventually it will slip out of control and go sliding. I expect the pendulum's movements will look something like this, with tptb doing their best to push their agenda until things break and fall to chaos. Realistically it has.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I'm not sure... If it wasn't for the psyops forcing the pendulum further left there would've been much more pushback by now, as there was in the past. My recollection of American history is foggy but I do believe there were stretches between the end of slavery and the race riots and today where beliefs on liberal values bounced back and forth.

I think due to your interactions your perception is influenced. I'm talking out there. On the Governmental level, on the media level, online. Where laws and the populations perceptions are influenced.




This is a boy in a nightclub in the US. Maybe a month or three ago.

 

[northstar747]

The GOP did nothing about the schools, because running schools is hard, and they don't want to do that.
They did nothing about inflation, because printing money is popular, and cutting spending isn't.
They didn't do anything about Clinton's perversion of the military, because, it was easier to convince themselves the military is "naturally conservative" than to do anything about it.

Doing nothing keeps failing as a strategy.

I strongly disagree.

September 11th 2001.

I used to like that south park episode about 1 in 4 americans believe we dont know the truth about 9/11, but also 1 in 4 americans are retarded.

The Saudi's were involved. and we invaded Iraq again and shot our military load, and as @Jet Fuel Johnny likes to point out we never really rebuilt our stock piles and yeah we retooled the military for fucking goat fuckers.

The GOP was gung hoe for regime change in saudi arabia oh wait.

The failure of the GWOT is what turned alot of young people away from bush into the arms of the charismatic obama. Then during the Obama years instead of adapting they made everything about "not obama" which was stupid but then omg when trump happened the libtards went screaming "not trump not trump"

I personally think the DNC is sicker than the GOP because they fucking murder any young talent, while the GOP operates in a different manor that makes such shit harder.

But the GOP isnt able to fucking get the trump secret. the trump secret is that he says shit about problems out leaders ignore fuck it why wont the unipart just say "please no more of this fucking asshole we will give you a wall!!"

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I strongly disagree.

September 11th 2001.

I used to like that south park episode about 1 in 4 americans believe we dont know the truth about 9/11, but also 1 in 4 americans are retarded.

The Saudi's were involved. and we invaded Iraq again and shot our military load, and as @Jet Fuel Johnny likes to point out we never really rebuilt our stock piles and yeah we retooled the military for fucking goat fuckers.

The GOP was gung hoe for regime change in saudi arabia oh wait.

The failure of the GWOT is what turned alot of young people away from bush into the arms of the charismatic obama. Then during the Obama years instead of adapting they made everything about "not obama" which was stupid but then omg when trump happened the libtards went screaming "not trump not trump"

I personally think the DNC is sicker than the GOP because they fucking murder any young talent, while the GOP operates in a different manor that makes such shit harder.

But the GOP isnt able to fucking get the trump secret. the trump secret is that he says shit about problems out leaders ignore fuck it why wont the unipart just say "please no more of this fucking asshole we will give you a wall!!"

If you go look up the articles, in the months leading up to 9/11 the US government was trying to negotiate several requiments with the Taliban. The construction and protection of the the gas pipeline that would subvert Russian gas income for one.

Then what happened after 9/11? The development of the opioid crisis. Where was the medical companies getting such opioids from? What happened after the US forces left Afghanistan?

 

[The Ugly One]

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I wish Republicans were one tenth as racist as Democrats say they are.

The pendulum is cope. It reveals that the person has a trust that the system is operating within normal parameters. And that the Government, the NGO's etc aren't actively pulling on the pendulum. Through various means like laws. Media output. And manipulating and creating consensus.

Pendulum talk is worse than cope. It's active sabotage. It's always a call to inaction.

Person A: We should take over the school board/run for office/primary those retards/defund the program/etc
Person B: Don't bother, some day, the pendulum will swing back the other way.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The pendulum is nothing more than astrology for conservatives. The pendulum does not exist. It never existed. There is nothing historical that can be cited to demonstrate it exists. Not only is it a call to inaction, it admits that half the time, everything is going to swing to the left. Leftists believe that history trends in their direction and proceeds accordingly but pendulum believers think they only get half of it. So even from the beginning, it demonstrates that they’re not going to do as much as the left and then are shocked that kids are being taught gay sex before multiplication tables, if those are even a thing these days. If there is a pendulum, it is a retarded one that has only gone leftward since the 18th century enlightenment.

I’ve made fun of the pendulum before and will continue to do so because it doesn’t exist. It’s just another excuse to do nothing. I’d rather someone say that they’re just a lazy nigger who wants things to magically happen for him without any skin in the game on his end. Hence astrology for conservatives.

 

[LurkTrawl]

but because the window has passed them by and they are now right-wing just by virtue of standing still.

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I'm tired to death of this shit.

The Overton window is not the political landscape. It is a window on the landscape that is the political "map".

You do not "become" a conservative by not changing your positions. You can be conservative relative to someone else, or the Overton window of the society you're in, but you are not in and of yourself now "a conservative".

For instance, I am one such person that would be considered by the current establishment's view of what is and isn't acceptable as "conservative" but I am by no means a conservative in actuality. Nor will I be, for that matter.

I point this shit out, and I think more people should too, because as much as I may disagree with conservatives I very much fucking hate this new trend of calling people like Sargoy of Cuckkad and Tim Pool "right wing" due to this fucking abominably retarded misconception of what the Overton window is and how it relates to a person's absolute, rather than relative position on the political compass.

TL;DR: Nobody is "minting" conservatives. This rhetorical trick is convincing people en masse that the newest "stop here" mark on the right-wing has moved. This is the process that has repeated itself for decades and has now landed us unironic conservative talking/figure heads defending fucking gay marriage.

Maybe you just meant "they appear right-wing". Sure. But as stated in the quote above I'm tired to death of the talking point that people are "now right wing". They're still leftists on the actual political compass.

Don't take the acrimonious tone in the quote personally, it was directed at the guy who wrote the article I was making that post towards. I just didn't have it in me to write a polite rewording of it for this occasion.

 

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/biden-administration-forgives-39-billion-student-loan-debt-more-than-800000-borrowers

https://archive.ph/vEbb0

Biden just ignored the SCOTUS and wiped Student Debt clean despite them saying he can't do it.

@Gehenna, thoughts?

Congratulations to the hard working men and women of America, you are now on the hook for $39,000,000,000 for shitty worthless degrees and academic administrators that actively hate you and your country and wish to destroy your culture and put your kids in reeducation camps. (Or as we call it, public school.)

Wonder what $39,000,000,000 of instant US government spending out of the blue will do to our already tailspinning economy?

And will someone dare have the balls to sue Biden to stop this?

 

[God of Nothing]

Congratulations to the hard working men and women of America, you are now on the hook for $39,000,000,000 for shitty worthless degrees and academic administrators that actively hate you and your country and wish to destroy your culture and put your kids in reeducation camps. (Or as we call it, public school.)

i await the cope posts trying to justify this with the government bailing out banks, a thing they are against

 

[genericwhitemale]

>Pops actually pulled through and wiped out billions of dollars of student debt
Biden haters, is it over for us?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Biden just ignored the SCOTUS and wiped Student Debt clean despite them saying he can't do it.

That depends on how they do it.

 

[God of Nothing]

>Pops actually pulled through and wiped out billions of dollars of student debt
Biden haters, is it over for us?

this will totally have no economic consequences whatsoever

 

[The Last Stand]

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/biden-administration-forgives-39-billion-student-loan-debt-more-than-800000-borrowers

https://archive.ph/vEbb0

Biden just ignored the SCOTUS and wiped Student Debt clean despite them saying he can't do it.

@Gehenna, thoughts?

Congratulations to the hard working men and women of America, you are now on the hook for $39,000,000,000 for shitty worthless degrees and academic administrators that actively hate you and your country and wish to destroy your culture and put your kids in reeducation camps. (Or as we call it, public school.)

Wonder what $39,000,000,000 of instant US government spending out of the blue will do to our already tailspinning economy?

And will someone dare have the balls to sue Biden to stop this?

This is FOX News, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt (or Joan Crawford's eyelash). That said, notice how it said 800,000 borrowers. There's a LOT MORE borrowers I imagine, so that $39 billion is scratching the surface of the trillions of student debt borrowing.

 

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>Pops actually pulled through and wiped out billions of dollars of student debt
Biden haters, is it over for us?

Spoiler alert: Every single Red State will sue to stop this and ONE of them will get an emergency injunction while this spends the next year in courts until it reaches the SCOTUS, where they again, tell him he can't do it.

This process will begin today. In fact, I imagine the first of those lawsuits have already been filed.

This is FOX News, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt (or Joan Crawford's eyelash). That said, notice how it said 800,000 borrowers. There's a LOT MORE borrowers I imagine, so that $39 billion is scratching the surface of the trillions of student debt borrowing.

That averages out to $50k of student debt each. (48.75k specifically). I.e., this is him targeting some of the lowest student debt holders in the system.

A quick google search suggests:

The average in-state student attending a public 4-year institution spends $26,027 for one academic year.
The average cost of in-state tuition alone is $9,678; out-of-state tuition averages $27,091
The average private, nonprofit university student spends a total of $55,840 per academic year living on campus, $38,768 of it on tuition and fees.
Considering student loan interest and loss of income, the ultimate cost of a bachelor’s degree can exceed $500,000.

So, $26k per year for the average student. $55k per year for private. $55k x 4 years = $220,000. If he's targeting 800,000 of those average borrowers, that's $176 billion.

If we take the $500,000 number to mean the student loans number (it's not, but), that's $400 billion.

And this still isn't considering anything higher than a 4 year, or any of the vapid lefty idiots who used college as a glorified party / daycare service while they figured out how to adult, etc.

Trillions is indeed right. 39 billion is a drop in the bucket, maybe this is him trying to throw his base a bone or play chicken with everyone. Bait a response from the right (suing to stop this) so he can use it in attack ads.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Biden just ignored the SCOTUS and wiped Student Debt clean despite them saying he can't do it.

So what number are we up to now? It's like Biden tells the courts to go fuck themselves on the regular and the courts really don't do anything severe to penalize him for it, hence why he keeps getting away with it.