Biden Orders Selected Reserve and Certain Members of the Individual Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty - Nice DD-214, be a shame if someone NEGATED IT!

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command’s area of responsibility. In furtherance of this operation, under the stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, under their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve, as they deem necessary, and to terminate the service of those units and members ordered to active duty.

This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
July 13, 2023.

WIKIPEDIA
Operation Atlantic Resolve, though not a "named" operation, refers to military activities in response to Russian operations in Ukraine, mainly the War in Donbass. It was funded under the European Deterrence Initiative. In the wake of Russia's 2014 intervention in Ukraine, the U.S. and the U.K. took several immediate steps to enhance the deterrence posture along the eastern flank of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including augmenting the air, ground and naval presence in the region, and enhancing previously scheduled exercises.[1]

The US described the activities as taking measures to enhance NATO military plans and defense capabilities and maintaining a persistent presence in Central Europe and Eastern Europe.[2] Atlantic Resolve rotations are overseen by a regionally aligned headquarters there.[3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Atlantic_Resolve

US Army Europe
Since April 2014, U.S. Army Europe and Africa has led the Department of Defense's Atlantic Resolve land efforts. Atlantic Resolve provides rotational deployments of combat-credible forces to Europe to show our commitment to NATO while building readiness, increasing interoperability and enhancing the bonds between ally and partner militaries.
As of Nov. 2021, the newly reactivated V Corps has assumed command and control of all Atlantic Resolve rotational forces.
(So, they reactivated V Corps. Here's the thing about V Corps. It's the only authorized European unit for fucking NUKES)

https://www.europeafrica.army.mil/AtlanticResolve/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/13/ordering-the-selected-reserve-and-certain-members-of-the-individual-ready-reserve-of-the-armed-forces-to-active-duty/

Gee, Joe, whatcha need 3 Divisions for?

Pardon me while I go to the REEEEING DOME.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Hill afb, predominantly a supply depot, has nuclear stockpiles, and a few nuke silos to the northern side towards South Weber.

Primo target.

Also where the main population centers are. I am fucked if nukes start falling, to put it mildly.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I get your point, and in another time, it would be admirable.

No it wouldn't.

It was fucking retarded then and it's fucking retarded now.

It's not called Ultima Ratio Regum due to wars typically serving the common people's interest.

There's a damn good reason the U.S. was never intended to have a standing military force. A few, actually, and this horseshit being spewed by what I can only describe as a ZOGbot is how they rope common people into the power games of the worst fucking people in any society.

 

[Maurice Maine]

Taking bets on how long till they reactivate the draft. At least nam had a good soundtrack

If it gives us a new season of Black Jack... I'm all for it.

 

[WelperHelper99]

No it wouldn't.

It was fucking retarded then and it's fucking retarded now.

It's not called Ultima Ratio Regum due to wars typically serving the common people's interest.

There's a damn good reason the U.S. was never intended to have a standing military force. A few, actually, and this horseshit being spewed by what I can only describe as a ZOGbot is how they rope common people into the power games of the worst fucking people in any society.

I've explained myself enough. If you cant read the meaning behind what ive said, you are shallow bud. But for you to say war NEVER serves a purpose... retardation of the highest order. America exists because of it. My entire family has been shaped by it, for better or for worse. It's how my grandfather met his wife after the second world war. It's how my father exists, how i exist. While there is much suffering in war, good can come out of it if you work for it. But hey, that's nuance, critical thinking, things you don't consider on the internet apparently.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I wish that were in the cards. At the same time I don't. No place other than the USA is my home. If we're going to fall, if this is the end of Rome, I want to see it myself. And at that point, WW3 happens, I'll be dammed before a chink or ruskie boot touches US, or heaven forbid, Utah soil. Fools and women may start the war, but men will end it, one way or another. So give me my M16, my Humvee to drive into battle with, and let me do my duty. As for the parasites in Washington- it's WW3 at that point, nukes are flying, anything could happen.

Hate to break it to you, but that has already happened. Your duty now, as a hypothetical soldier, is to NOT do what they ask.

It's what my family has done for generations. We are builders and we are soldiers. I refuse to cower and run when those before me didn't.

The bottom half is a absurd hypothetical. Absolutely absurd. And separating what are two statements, you can argue that of EVERY WAR. Even if I find it stupid, it still needs to be fought, and I have more reason than most to fight it. At that point I am fighting for my nation to make sure that a war overseas stays overseas. That is my priority.

Then build. Refuse to cower. The tougher and braver route is to refuse this bullshit, because what you think you will be fighting against is exactly what you will be fighting for, and vice versa.

Which they by and large aren’t going to give; at least not for the conflicts that seem to be in the cards right now.

Power to you if you want to do this kid. I just fear it’s not going to go how you think.

It's the exact opposite of what he thinks, but he's a true believer now. Johnny is right. This kid is a lost cause.

No it wouldn't.

It was fucking retarded then and it's fucking retarded now.

It's not called Ultima Ratio Regum due to wars typically serving the common people's interest.

There's a damn good reason the U.S. was never intended to have a standing military force. A few, actually, and this horseshit being spewed by what I can only describe as a ZOGbot is how they rope common people into the power games of the worst fucking people in any society.

Mostly agree, but not entirely. Even in the inevitable shuck that is war, I can admire people stepping up. As perverse as it was, it was still fighting for the nation. This? Now? It is not. It is actively chosing to fight against your own nation for a collective madness which is sweeping the globe. Hes a true believer now, and I get it. He's young, has no real direction, lives in a state of nihilism and inconsequentiality, and taking orders from purported leaders lessens the doubt and stress of what he should do. Add on the familial and historical pressure. A warrior doesn't do that, and what a warrior does isn't glamorous.

 

[LurkTrawl]

If you cant read the meaning behind what ive said, you are shallow bud. But for you to say war NEVER serves a purpose... retardation of the highest order. America exists because of it.

I never said war "never" serves a purpose. In fact the american revolutionary war is one of appallingly few I can think of off the top of my head that was an exception to the rule.

While there is much suffering in war, good can come out of it if you work for it. But hey, that's nuance, critical thinking, things you don't consider on the internet apparently.

If you were capable of nuance or critical thinking you wouldn't be espousing the lead-brained dogshit you have about how you'd "serve your country" by giving your life to defend the interests of plutocratic pedophiles.

You've a lot of nerve to be accusing someone of being incapable of understanding those concepts as someone who, in a brain-dead fashion, can't grasp the basic concept that loyalty to government, and loyalty to your country, aren't one and the same.

In another life you'd be a North Korean guardsman executing suspected defectors.

Mostly agree, but not entirely. Even in the inevitable shuck that is war, I can admire people stepping up. As perverse as it was, it was still fighting for the nation.

I fucking can't. People like him are the type that apply social pressure on people who otherwise would see such a mobilization for what it is and attempt meaningful resistance against it, and as far as WW1/2 it's good to remember that the american public, much like this Rus/Ukr situation, were against being involved until the government either in the case of the first, false-flagged an attack on our nation, and in the case of the second surreptitiously provoked a participant of the war until they inevitably attacked.

Hes a true believer now, and I get it. He's young, has no real direction, lives in a state of nihilism and inconsequentiality, and taking orders from purported leaders lessens the doubt and stress of what he should do. Add on the familial and historical pressure. A warrior doesn't do that, and what a warrior does isn't glamorous.

That shit would garner some measure of empathy from me if he didn't have multiple people explaining to him how retarded his position is, and if he didn't have the gall to accuse others of not thinking rationally while droning on like a cult brainwashing victim.

I'll say it plainly, if there is a draft it's my honest hope that only such people get drafted. We'd be better off for it as a country and as a species.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Then build. Refuse to cower. The tougher and braver route is to refuse this bullshit, because what you think you will be fighting against is exactly what you will be fighting for, and vice versa

I will as much as I can. But sometimes building only can happen after breaking shit. I make no illusions of who's in charge. But this is my country.

Mostly agree, but not entirely. Even in the inevitable shuck that is war, I can admire people stepping up. As perverse as it was, it was still fighting for the nation. This? Now? It is not. It is actively chosing to fight against your own nation for a collective madness which is sweeping the globe. Hes a true believer now, and I get it. He's young, has no real direction, lives in a state of nihilism and inconsequentiality, and taking orders from purported leaders lessens the doubt and stress of what he should do. Add on the familial and historical pressure. A warrior doesn't do that, and what a warrior does isn't glamorous.

I never asked for glamor. I want to make sure in the event of war, my nation still exists. Fighting is the best I could do in that situation. You're the nihilist. You think I'll end up dead and that we will lose and the country itself wouldn't change. It would. Drastically. You would have a entire generation seeing hell face first. A generation that would grow strong because of it. Stupid ideas only born from first world arrogance ground into dust. That is what I see.

you were capable of nuance or critical thinking you wouldn't be espousing the lead-brained dogshit you have about how you'd "serve your country" by giving your life to defend the interests of plutocratic pedophiles.

You've a lot of nerve to be accusing someone of being incapable of understanding those concepts as someone who, in a brain-dead fashion, can't grasp the basic concept that loyalty to government, and loyalty to your country, aren't one and the same.

I'm loyal enough to my country to fight a war I disagree with, that could be completely avoided if a ancient dottering fool wasnt in charge. You would hide in a cave and screech at a young man that he's a ZOGbot and he is too stupid to have ever considered the elites are evil. You also never addressed the anecdote of my Grandfather, good job missing the point

 

[LurkTrawl]

I'm loyal enough to my country to fight a war I disagree with, that could be completely avoided if a ancient dottering fool wasnt in charge.

No, you're loyal to your country's government. That is not the same as being loyal to your country.

If you disagree with a war that your country's government is waging, and so do a large swathe of the people in it despite the country's government allegedly being representative of the people, and there's a draft to send otherwise innocent young men to go die for the interests of the government...

Then you're acting against the interests of your country to further the interests of your country's government. You're loyal to the government above your countrymen, in this instance. It's a nuanced position so I can understand if you might have difficulty understanding it.

You would hide in a cave and screech at a young man that he's a ZOGbot and he is too stupid to have ever considered the elites are evil.

Well, first you apparently fucking are. Secondly, if I were to be called on a draft for an illegitimate war and pressured by fucking clowns such as yourself into it, I'd shoot niggers like you the second we were deployed to combat for helping to give the state a rationale for the draft in the first place.

Which is what will happen. If there is a draft there most certainly will be fragging incidents.

You also never addressed the anecdote of my Grandfather, good job missing the point

Sure, if you want. But in return with your little comment about "you would hide in a cave" you proved my point here:

I fucking can't. People like him are the type that apply social pressure on people who otherwise would see such a mobilization for what it is and attempt meaningful resistance against it

I reiterate: if there is a draft I solemnly hope only people like you are called to action. If for no other reason than your own damn safety as I'm certainly not the only person who'd be willing to frag dumbasses that breathe air into the suicidal and retarded notion that you must put the government above your fellow countrymen and their interests out of some inter-generational sunk-cost fallacy horseshit.

Go actually fuck yourself.

Edit: Rate me MATI but it makes my fucking piss boil. While chickenhawks in government push for shit like this, these fucks and their lunacy are the reason such politicians have the influence they have amongst the populace to begin with.

 

[MCLOS Horthy]

Well Granpap and dad voluntarily gave their lives for Mcnamara's Ford Automotive False Flag, so I guess it's my imperative to die screaming when I'm called up for Biden's Crackpipe Child Pornography Janissary Battalion. I've made up my mind, and none of you can change that. I'd rather die fighting for Globohomo child slavery than spend my time with my family when the nukes are falling.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Well, first you apparently fucking are. Secondly, if I were to be called on a draft for an illegitimate war and pressured by fucking clowns such as yourself into it, I'd shoot niggers like you the second we were deployed to combat for helping to give the state a rationale for the draft in the first place.

Which is what will happen. If there is a draft there most certainly will be fragging incidents.

You are angry. Calm down. I apologize for making you so MATI that you would threaten to shoot me or your fellow countryman in a hypothetical war that hasn't happened.

 

[Kupier]

AHAHA, oh shit!!

I was away for a few days without phone signal. Someone asked if I was "out out" or in the reserves. Now I know why he asked. I'll have to catch up on the thread, but I see some spergery happening. The first thing I did when I got signal again was ask if WW3 started, just in case I should go back into the mountains .

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You also never addressed the anecdote of my Grandfather

I'd love to dig up one of the Hessians whose remains are scattered all over the nearby forest and ask him for an anecdote. Hint: he too was a grandfather, to someone who didn't get the benefit of his advice and their remains, along with the remains of his descendants, are scattered all over Central and Eastern Europe.

You are confusing a defensive war against an invading enemy when actual reality is the US is preparing for an offensive war, claiming the nation(s) we attacked (on flimsy/nonexistent pretenses I might add) could have the gall to strike back.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

This reminds me of how my Indiana Jones thread devolved into arguing about nigger spiderman. Ladies and gents take it to Mass Debates to discuss whether dying for ZOG has any merit.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This reminds me of how my Indiana Jones thread devolved into arguing about nigger spiderman. Ladies and gents take it to Mass Debates to discuss whether dying for ZOG has any merit.

Fucking gladly. I'll spin up a thread for this shit.
EDIT: Link for the retardation

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/debate...is-country-are-assholes.167993/#post-16510937

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

All of this slapfighting in a thread ultimately over a misunderstanding over the article. All of this arguing and panic over a draft when a draft has not even been announced. 3000 people to staff menial positions in European NATO bases is not a "draft".

 

[LurkTrawl]

This reminds me of how my Indiana Jones thread devolved into arguing about nigger spiderman. Ladies and gents take it to Mass Debates to discuss whether dying for ZOG has any merit.

All of this slapfighting in a thread ultimately over a misunderstanding over the article. All of this arguing and panic over a draft when a draft has not even been announced. 3000 people to staff menial positions in European NATO bases is not a "draft".

No shit. The discussion drifted from the direct topic to whether or not it's a sign of further escalation, in which there would be a high possibility of a draft if NATO were to directly go to war with Russia.

If every thread on this section of the site were to stay that autistically on-topic there wouldn't be a single thread with a double-digit pagecount that wasn't a general thread or misplaced happenings thread.

Personally I find meta-discussion more annoying than topic drift.

 

[Corpun]

Fuck this shit. I'm fucking sick of Ukraine. I'll defect to Russia

Same mindset. Russians never told me I was toxic, sexist, racist, and had unfair advantages that need to be amended. They never would encourage me to troon out and shit.

What the fuck has a Russian ever done to me or my countrymen in the last 20 years? Nothing. These fucking delusional assholes at top, both the Cold War Boomers who can't get over that conflict and the Globohomo Neoliberals, hate all of us and are far more hostile towards us than Putin ever was.

 

[White Devil]

All of this slapfighting in a thread ultimately over a misunderstanding over the article. All of this arguing and panic over a draft when a draft has not even been announced. 3000 people to staff menial positions in European NATO bases is not a "draft".

If you can't see the possibility for one in the next decade, I unno what to tell you. You're blinder than Broken Branch Jones.

 

[Bungdit Din]

@WelperHelper99 You sound vaccinated. (Thanks for making the new thread, though - will take a look).

Which led me to this thought, if you'll pardon the monomania: how long before being jabbed (with mRNA) flips from being a condition of service to an exemption from? 'Specially once a significant cohort of boosted recruits start dropping dead of sudden and unexpected climate change on the assault course. And good luck getting the refuseniks to comply with a draft...

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

My buddy in the air force reserve only fears this because he knows active duty gets paid less for doing the same job.