Disaster Anthony Bourdain was right about Guy Fieri - Bourdain knew that food was political. Here's why the Mayor of Flavortown’s politics matter, too


By ASHLIE D. STEVENS, Food Editor​

JULY 17, 2023​

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Guy Fieri and Anthony Bourdain

When a photo published online last weekend of celebrity chef Guy Fieri warmly greeting former president Donald Trump ringside at Las Vegas' UFC 290, hosted in the T-Mobile Arena, Seattle-based chef Eric Rivera posted it on Twitter with a simple caption: "I've been trying to tell you about Guy Fieri, but a lot of you didn't want to listen."

Since Fieri first hit the national culinary scene during his successful run on the second season of "The Next Food Network Star," which aired in 2006, there have been clues to his political beliefs, the most memorable of which veer unsavory. About a decade ago, for instance, a former producer on "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives," one of Fieri's long-running Food Network programs, alleged via a lawsuit that the host was openly homophobic and lewd on set.

As Gothamist reported in 2011, the producer, David Page, said that "anytime any woman mentioned 'cream,' Guy went into a sexual riff" and that Fieri reportedly told show producers, "You can't send me to talk to gay people without warning! Those people weird me out!" However, unlike some other culinary personalities — like José Andrés, Padma Lakshmi or even the late Anthony Bourdain — Fieri has by and large remained pretty tightlipped about his personal politics in the way that is very much de rigueur for Food Network celebrities.

Yet embracing Trump was blatant enough to force even Fieri's most politically disinterested fans to confront the fact that, in order for someone to become mayor of anything — even if it's just the Mayor of Flavortown — they have to run on a platform, and in the case of Fieri, what that actually is has been muffled by years of tired debates about the aesthetic merits of bleached tips and Donkey Sauce.

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Much of the criticism that was leveled at Fieri early in his career did smack of classism. Compared to the pressed chef whites of a young Jacques Pépin or Ina Garten's understated custom-made button-downs, Fieri's spiked hair and flame decal-style shirts were a departure from perceived industry standards (or, as a tweet from 2010 put it, "Guy Fieri is proof that Ed Hardy has started manufacturing actual human beings.")

But when combined with an incendiary review of Fieri's Time Square restaurant by New York Times' food critic Pete Wells — who pointedly asked "Is it all an act? Is that why the kind of cooking you celebrate on television is treated with so little respect at Guy's American Kitchen & Bar?"— a familiar narrative began to develop, one that constantly cycles through the worlds of music, literature, film and art.

On one side, you have the establishment, whose tastes are grounded in, or perhaps stymied by, an understanding of craft, technique and tradition. On the other, you have disruptors, who don't necessarily think all that is important in the pursuit of a good time. Inevitably, when these two sides collide, it sparks conversations about snobbery. This isn't a bad thing, but it feels like culturally we have defaulted to the idiom "don't yuck someone's yum" as a guiding societal principle, to the point that it's almost regarded as snobby, at least among the terminally online, to criticize certain things with a certain level of mainstream appeal.

And the thing is, we could caught get in the cycle of discussing the tension between what is critically slammed and culturally embraced almost indefinitely — art and film historians certainly have — but that conversation at large seems to have stalled out on this flawed belief that it is somehow radical to say, "Hey, I like nachos served in a trash can and Pete Wells can shove it."

Fieri has embodied that upbeat "live and let live" ethos well on television. He's gone, with the help of a few well-placed profiles in the right magazines, from being a kind of culinary world sideshow to having his own prayer candle (Saint Guy, Lord of Flavortown) sold alongside the likes of Julia Child (Patron Saint of the Kitchen). He's been reclaimed by some as a kind of camp icon-turned-populist hero in studded denim who also happens to do charitable work, like when he raised $25 million for restaurant workers left unemployed by the pandemic.

But you know what is even more radical than that? Recognizing you can have taste without being a snob, but you can't be a "Guy of the People" while pretending food is apolitical.

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During his lifetime, Anthony Bourdain was not a fan of Guy Fieri.

In fact, before the chef and author's death in 2018, the two had been involved in what the media had teased out as a multi-year feud. There were hints of its beginnings in 2008 when Bourdain said to TV Guide that Fieri looked like a "Simpsons" character who had "been designed by committee," but it really kicked off when Bourdain said in 2011:

I look at Guy Fieri and I just think, 'Jesus, I'm glad that's not me.' You work that hard and there's not a single show of yours that you'd want to sit down and say, 'Hey, I made that last week. Look at that camera work. It's really good, huh?' I'm proud of what I do.

The pair traded pointed barbs back and forth until 2015, when Fieri told GQ that he "didn't like [Bourdain] making fun of people."

"And I don't like him talking s**t," Fieri said. "And he's never talked s**t to my face. I know he's definitely gotta have issues, 'cos the average person doesn't behave that way. It's not that I'm not open to the reality that the food world was like this from a few people's perspective. It's just, What are you doing? What is your instigation? You have nothing else to fucking worry about than if I have bleached hair or not? I mean, f**k."

When it was playing out in real time, the conflict between Bourdain and Fieri was certainly painted as a stand-off between traditionalism (or snobbery) and disruption (or commercial garbage). However, in retrospect, it's interesting to consider the differences in how the two food personalities allowed politics to intersect with their careers.

Bourdain was a complicated man in his own right, but through "Parts Unknown," "No Reservations" and his own writing, he was always a shining example of how understanding both the sociopolitical origins of food — even if difficult or uncomfortable — and the hard-won techniques that go into making them can actually augment someone's dining experience.

In a 2016 interview with CBC News, he said of food: "There is nothing more political."

One of my favorite images of Bourdain is one you've probably seen before. It's of him and former president Barack Obama in Vietnam, sitting on electric blue plastic stools, eating noodles and drinking cold beer. The weight that image, which is seven years old, still holds is apparent every time I walk through my neighborhood, which is sometimes called Chicago's Little Vietnam.

Four or five restaurants along the main drag have the image displayed under glass, just like the table where Bourdain and Obama ate. I wonder what kind of restaurants will hang a framed photograph of Donald Trump and Guy Fieri shaking hands?

Fieri has mostly kept mum about his thoughts on politics, and if or how they connected to food, unless it slipped, like when he slammed the same restaurant workers that were struggling during COVID for collecting unemployment, likening them to kids filling up on Doritos instead of eating their broccoli.

However, as a country, I think we grew to understand exponentially more during the pandemic — as supply chain disruptions and food insecurity rocked the nation — how inherently political food has always been, which is why it was potentially so jarring for some to see Trump and Fieri shaking hands.

Zoom out a bit beyond the incessant "Triple D" re-runs, and perhaps it's not really a surprise that the multi-millionaire Guy of the People would be a fan of the former president who continues to pretend he is an everyman, but it does crystallize that there are systems underpinning what we eat and confronting those is often uncomfortable.

Absent Bourdain's thoughts on the matter, musician Jack White (who participated in the "Parts Unknown" episode filmed in Nashville) delivered a statement that I imagine would be similar to what the late chef would've said.

"Anybody who 'normalizes' or treats this disgusting fascist, racist, con man, disgusting piece of s**t Trump with any level of respect is ALSO disgusting in my book," White wrote. "That's you Joe Rogan, you Mel Gibson, you Mark Wahlberg, you Guy Fieri."
 
Bourdain was killed for political reasons, like Kate Spade.

One of the current qualifications for being a real journalist is being too stupid to know things like that.

I'd wager it's putting up with Asia's BPD shit. (she's kinda known for being batshit as fuck)

Why are we supposed to take any advice from the dude who stayed with a pedophile rapist?

Pussy will make you think a lot of things ain't true sometimes even if they are glaringly apparent to everybody looking at it from outside. Though I wouldn't doubt her having some shit on him either
 
Okay, so why was Bourdain killed for political reasons?

You must not know who Asia Argento is and just how crazy that bitch is?
lol I'm unfortunately extremely aware of that situation and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you the only unusual aspect of it is that she got busted.

I don't know exactly why Bourdain and Spade were offed but when people with that level of political connection are killed in similar ways (a method of suicide which is very rare for women) it's not a coincidence.
 
I've never been disappointed by any place that was on Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives, and that's all that really matters. Everyone I've talked to at any of those places enjoyed the fuck out of him showing up, and Fieri usually went above and beyond for the places the show featured. One tiny burger place in Minnesota burned down immediately after its episode aired, so he went back and featured them again when they rebuilt.

All Bourdain ever cared about was keeping his head firmly wedged up his own ass, but he's supposed to be the hero and the guy who actually cares is the villain. I don't care that he's a caricature of a California douchebag or who he votes for, he and his team finds me some great meals. Bourdain can't even do that anymore, even if he wanted to.
 
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Is that why the kind of cooking you celebrate on television is treated with so little respect at Guy's American Kitchen & Bar?"—

Sir, if you are unsatisfied with the informal service you received at the American Kitchen & Bar, perhaps you would find the formal service at Le Merde more to your liking.

but it really kicked off when Bourdain said in 2011:
One of the chefs is alive the other hanged themselves. I think we can ascertain who has the better life.
 
Whether he loves him or hate him, what was he supposed to do when meeting Trump? Spit on him? Start throwing punches?
To people like this? Yeah, they want chimpouts directed at Trump. They love violence as long as it's directed at the right people, and as long as the right people are the ones doing it.
 
>hating Guy Fieri

He’s a clown, but he’s a not fucking jackass. He plays a character and promotes small businesses. Bourdain was a faggot who’d cry about how authentic something was while he diddled kids in Thailand.

Hating Guy is like hating Iron Chef. You aren’t smart for hating how bombastic it is, your a faggot who can’t laugh at the spectacle or that the show is actually good.
 
I hear about how awful Fieri is all the time that I finally decided to read up more on the sticking points against him. Most of the big ones have been either been 'actions speak louder than words' for me, and that the fat dude that dresses like a twelve year old has the humor of a twelve year old, and that his food's shit. Him figuring out to not vomit his politics to the public instantly makes me like him more.
It’s really that simple. Also. I’ve watched a lot of his stuff, and he seems like that one cool uncle you always wanna hang out with.

Guy is also happily married with two kids, and he has a nephew that he treats like his third son. And he looks like he’s spending his time doing what he loves. Dude’s basically won the game of life.
There’s nothing libs hate more than people just enjoying things. Also Bourdain was an idiot deviant and I’ve always hated the weird orientalism of ‘random strip mall restaurants suck however this peasant hick who can’t read with a stall in a village in Vietnam makes the greatest noodles on planet earth’ that he peddled.
So basically this sketch I found on YouTube is the epitome of Anthony Bourdain:

At the same time, is he wrong?
With the way these articles paint it you'd think Guy Fieri stode down to the ring side in a MAGA hat chanting about how the election was rigged, instead it’s a photo of him meeting Trump. Do they not realise that this kind of demonisation is only going to make people dislike their side more?
Either they don’t, or they do and they don’t give a shit. I mean, if you went on Twitter, you’d find tons of folks going “I always hated that guy”.
Which way, Western man:
-Live a comfortably wealthy existence in Sonoma with your wife and kids, making a fortune off of a goofy television personality
-Die necking yourself in a French hotel room after years of embodying the pretentious chain-smoking hipster archetype, being unable to further suffer the indignity of your girlfriend cucking you with a high school boy and making you pay to cover it up.
Santa Rosa, but I get what you’re saying.
LOL. Guy Fieri's dead sister was a lesbian I believe. He didn't appear to be estranged from her before she died from cancer. He also officiated a large gay wedding thing with that one gay chef eho used to work for Oprah. Give me a fucking break.
She was if memory serves. And not only that, guy got a tattoo in her memory after she died on his arm.
 
A fellow Iron Chef fan? I salute you.
OG Japanese Iron Chef and Iron Chef America were fun game shows. Next Iron Chef kinda sucked and they can’t capture the same energy because they’re averse to hamming it up.

Half the fun of the show was it being a serious cooking show, but also the bullshit theatrics that surrounded the show.
 
Iron Chef plays really late on my channel during the week. :biggrin:

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It’s also on Pluto TV (free btw) and there’s a lot of episodes in full on YouTube.

I think this show is a trailblazer, and showed what a good show can be. Guy Fieri certainly capitalized.

Seriously, watching Guy’s Grocery Games is a blast.

OG Japanese Iron Chef and Iron Chef America were fun game shows. Next Iron Chef kinda sucked and they can’t capture the same energy because they’re averse to hamming it up.

Half the fun of the show was it being a serious cooking show, but also the bullshit theatrics that surrounded the show.
If you go on Netflix, they have this show called Iron Chef: Quest For An Iron Legend. It brings back Alton and the Chairman from Iron Chef America.
 
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