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Pontuis pilate is a perfect example of this. He doesn't want to kill Jesus, his first instinct is to let what he considers a harmless crazy go, but he wants the Jew's to shut up and stop bothering him more.

I always think of the roman solider who believed in Jesus and his surprise at his faith. For all their faults, they were one of the first civilizations to try and bring order to the world
Iirc Pilates wife had a dream vision as well about Jesus and pleaded with him not to do it. The Jews are 100% the villain of the Jesus story and tbh were worse villains than the Romans or other gentiles in the years that followed. Saul who became Paul himself led a series of persecutions against Christians, and he was no Roman.
The Roman aristocracy was batshit insane for the most part but a lot of the rank and file were just normal people existing the best they could at the time. The centurions faith is one of the central stories of the gospel as it relates to the gentiles because it is one of the first evidences that Jesus came not just to help Jews but all man.
Counterpoint: the Jews wanted independence, self-determination, and to restore themselves to the golden years of the Davidic Kingdom
Ehhh idk man. The bible itself doesn't really paint them in a kind light - they did want independence etc but the upper echelons such as the high priests etc were very corrupt, Herod was a degenerate, and the Pharisees and Sadducees were religious extremists who regularly had great ideas like "let's carry this ark against a much stronger philistine force for no reason, surely God will smite everyone!"
If they'd have had the chance the 12 tribes probably would have been the slavers and conquerors, they got very carried away and high on their own gases during the OT.
 
Iirc Pilates wife had a dream vision as well about Jesus and pleaded with him not to do it. The Jews are 100% the villain of the Jesus story and tbh were worse villains than the Romans or other gentiles in the years that followed. Saul who became Paul himself led a series of persecutions against Christians, and he was no Roman.
The Roman aristocracy was batshit insane for the most part but a lot of the rank and file were just normal people existing the best they could at the time. The centurions faith is one of the central stories of the gospel as it relates to the gentiles because it is one of the first evidences that Jesus came not just to help Jews but all man.

Ehhh idk man. The bible itself doesn't really paint them in a kind light - they did want independence etc but the upper echelons such as the high priests etc were very corrupt, Herod was a degenerate, and the Pharisees and Sadducees were religious extremists who regularly had great ideas like "let's carry this ark against a much stronger philistine force for no reason, surely God will smite everyone!"
If they'd have had the chance the 12 tribes probably would have been the slavers and conquerors, they got very carried away and high on their own gases during the OT.
What I said about the Romans, I meant in the context of The Passion movie, and my personal reaction to it.
 
Yeah, this is a massive turn off to anyone who grew up outside of Christian households. I really can't blame the Romans either because they saw the creation of the religion in real time rather than it being mired in myth and legend like every other one. As far as they were concerned, you worship a dead jew on a stick fathered by a Roman soldier and use a method of execution as a religious icon. That is actually batshit insane even now when you really think about it.

I dunno I thought a religion about literally cutting a babys dick and sucking it was Africa tier, but what do I know?
 
Another point about the Jews in the classical period, is that they were considered mind-bogglingly intolerant. Everybody everywhere accepted that everyone elses gods existed, the general rule when dealing with other peoples gods was either some variation of "my god could beat up your god", or that the sky god who threw lightning that they worship is actually just Zeus and they were just dumb-fucks who called him by the wrong name.

Into this came the Jews who declared that no, everyone else was wrong, they had the only god and he was all powerful, and what you were worshiping either didn't exist or were demons. That they were the chosen people of the creator of everything and everyone else were no-bodies permanently denied paradise by the mere act of not being born Jewish.

As you can imagine this did not go down well with everyone else, especially after seeing how little their "all powerful god" did to protect them from getting conquered over and over again.
 
As you can imagine this did not go down well with everyone else, especially after seeing how little their "all powerful god" did to protect them from getting conquered over and over again.
Well, if you read the Old Testament, you'll see that God routinely allowed them to get tilted whenever they turned their backs on Him.

I think it was Ezekiel who went so far as to compare Israel's love of paganism to lusting after horse cock.
 
Pharisees and Sadducees were religious extremists who regularly had great ideas like "let's carry this ark against a much stronger philistine force for no reason, surely God will smite everyone!"
Hey, it worked with the Seleucids during the Maccabean revolt! A victory that they are so proud of they light candles every year to celebrate it, forgetting the 15 other times afterwards they tried to replicate it, and got curb stomped so hard they are too sad to rebuild their Temple.
 
To the Hellenic Romans the Jew and later Christian God was kind of a eldritch horror. They were used to the idea of gods as somewhat understandable if supremely powerful beings, the idea of this whole meme of a formless being of divine nature whose true nature a mortal could not fathom was really off putting to them. I remember this anecdote of how one of the first roman representatives to come by to get Herod's vassalization went to the Temple and asked where the statues were, and the local Rabbi explained that jews don't do that and how Yahweh was the beginning and the end it just came off as "these weird big nosed barbarians are praying to all and none of the Gods that the same time what the fuck".

In other news I wonder what sort of retarded new we will see drop as the whole of D.C. gets together to kvetch about Trump on friday. We already have on economic bullshit planned.
I've wondered for some time how much the "no idols or statues" commandment (aside from golden calf stuff, I mean not depicting YHWH specifically) was a defense against the tradition of smashing all the other guy's idols in front of him after you conquer his city to buckbreak him. A god that lives in and only speaks through objects bearing his image now has those objects as a massive glaring weakness.

The thinking of the time being that a god exists and acts through his image, the jews decided that man was formed in the image of their god, so he's always at their side instead of back in the big statue at the temple in the capital.

The Book even gets into what a hassle it is having a physical object of worship when the ark of the covenant keeps getting stolen back and forth.
 
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Another point about the Jews in the classical period, is that they were considered mind-bogglingly intolerant. Everybody everywhere accepted that everyone elses gods existed, the general rule when dealing with other peoples gods was either some variation of "my god could beat up your god", or that the sky god who threw lightning that they worship is actually just Zeus and they were just dumb-fucks who called him by the wrong name.

Into this came the Jews who declared that no, everyone else was wrong, they had the only god and he was all powerful, and what you were worshiping either didn't exist or were demons. That they were the chosen people of the creator of everything and everyone else were no-bodies permanently denied paradise by the mere act of not being born Jewish.

As you can imagine this did not go down well with everyone else, especially after seeing how little their "all powerful god" did to protect them from getting conquered over and over again.
Read Jeremiah 27-28. The idea that being Gods chosen meant that they were ever protected is an invention centuries after Christ's time on earth, there were many many times in the Old Testament where God told the jews to kick rocks and eat a little humble pie and accept heathen rule because they turned from Him. As Christ would later say, "if you were the sons of Abraham you would do his works"
 
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Something I don't understand: if there is so much anti-White hatred going on, why not do what Civil Rights activists did 50-60 years ago and push/protest for action?
Protests only work when the establishment approves of them
I just wish all this drama and bullshit could wait until next year. Let the rest of us have some peace in a non-election year.
If they can never have peace then neither can you
 
Iirc Pilates wife had a dream vision as well about Jesus and pleaded with him not to do it. The Jews are 100% the villain of the Jesus story and tbh were worse villains than the Romans or other gentiles in the years that followed. Saul who became Paul himself led a series of persecutions against Christians, and he was no Roman.
The reason why Pilate is often demonized is that he clearly understood that he was going to condemn an innocent man to a ignominious and painful death and had the authority to stop it. However he gave up when he realized the crowd was out for blood, making a grand gesture of showing he was not culpable for it. By washing his hands, Pilate was refusing to acknowledge his own sin. This is seen as an example of a failure of a secular authority to do what is truly right when the question came between justice and evil done for the sake of political stability.
 
Something I don't understand: if there is so much anti-White hatred going on, why not do what Civil Rights activists did 50-60 years ago and push/protest for action?
Because Nazi accusations will be thrown around immediately. White people in America are so terrified of being called racist it's not funny.
A slight correction, but Tiberius (the second emperor) was the emperor at the time of Jesus' ministry and crucifixion. Both were officially called Caesar/Augustus and as a result many people get confused since the one we typically call Augustus was Emperor at the time of the census that led to Mary and Joseph to go to Bethlehem. When Jesus said "Render unto Caesar", he was referring to Tiberius. Also the Herod that dressed Jesus up in rich clothes and was involved in the death of St. John the Baptist was Herod Antipas, one of Herod the Great's sons. That's also a point of confusion.
The "Caesar" talked about in later books of the New Testament is Nero, though Tiberius is talked about as well. People will say Revelation is about the Jewish uprising in the first century, but I disagree when you read the chapters talking about heaven and the new earth, also the stuff about the mark of the beast. PS - There is a Christian theology thread already which is IIRC in Deep Thoughts.
 
The problem is many people these days won't believe anything unless they get the leaked Government document with:

Dear NIH,

We want you to continue funding bioweapon research in offshore labs like Ukraine and China, thereby not falling under US Media attention or US regulations.

Lots of love and kisses

from CIA.
Demoralization is so strong that you could have that document as such corroborated by a thousand official sources, but if the lugenpress says "fact check, it's fake cause I say so" and the democrats echo that it's a "rethuglican conspiracy!" a third of the country will buy it hook line and sinker without and another third will shut up about to not rock the boat.
 
I mean, it's pretty much how it's depicted in the bible... nobody actually reads it though so when you say the whole "Jews had him killed" thing people roll their eyes. But thing was the Pharisee could have had him freed but they chose the thief to go free and to crucify Jesus.

But depicting this as biblically accurate is of course anti-Semitism.
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That didn't stop the left from throwing the biden accuser under the bus in 2020 after promoting #MeToo for years. The Bidens, or any other high positioned leftist politician, have to be protected at all cost.
tara reade.

btw search her name on wikipedia if you haven't :story:
 
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