Retard uprising in the "Mad at the Internet" thread over being told women should be considered in far-right politics

And how do you think I got hateful in the first place?
You're telling me that even though I've been betrayed, abandoned and used that I should continue to make myself available for women to betray, abandon and use me because there may one day come a time where a woman chooses not to betray, abandon and use me. As if there's not an up front cost to dating and pursuing women that you never get back.
And yes, it's my fault that I was abused. That's exactly why I have no hope for anything to change, because people are so quick and eager to defend women's actions even when they have done something wrong.

Okay so to you, it's rational for you as a person who apparently has had nothing but negative experiences with women, to view all women negatively in a manner that maps to your personal experiences.

Am I getting that right? Or no?
 
Null's women respecting is completely performative however he is not a good actor.
I think it's well founded, he's given woman more of a space to speak than most men alive today, that's essentially women's liberation. He's not wrong pointing out that Hitler was a feminist, although admittedly weird and coom-brained. In doing so he's not just aping Nazism like Fuentes, he's trying to reason with people who declare themselves 'based chauvinists' that being more concerned with failing birthrates and healthy babies is actually how you save the west. Not by being homoerotic gang members, more focused on kissing your homies goodnight than actually creating a family.

Who can argue that European women aren't the most beautiful creatures to ever inhabit this planet? Nobody with any sense of discrimination and value. Literally nobody, around the entire planet, and that treasure is being sought out by force and must be defended the same. So have a family and buy guns and protect your family, that's what Null's been saying for as long as I've been listening to him.
 
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Okay so to you, it's rational for you as a person who apparently has had nothing but negative experiences with women, to view all women negatively in a manner that maps to your personal experiences.

Am I getting that right? Or no?
Yes and no. That's part of it. There's also the fact that every single relationship around me ends in divorce and they're all initiated by women.

My parents got divorced. Then my dad remarried and was divorced. My uncle was divorced, and he was really rich. My other aunt divorced her husband, and then even the longest standing relationship in my family, my father's brother and his wife, they stayed together until he died, but even then she was on her second marriage. So she abandoned her husband and her firstborn son to be with a different family.

There are no examples I have to draw on of women not leaving men and children. And plenty of examples of them doing so.
 
You're telling me that even though I've been betrayed, abandoned and used that I should continue to make myself available for women to betray, abandon and use me because there may one day come a time where a woman chooses not to betray, abandon and use me. As if there's not an up front cost to dating and pursuing women that you never get back.
Dude I'm going out on a limb here in the hopes you might listen to me because you kinda sound like me when I was at my angriest after a string of pretty abusive relationships with some fucked up women.

My advice is this. Get off the internet and touch grass.

No seriously it's not a platitude even if it sounds like one. The truth is you don't meet psychologically healthy women ready for any kind of relationship unless you're out there doing shit and trying to get somewhere in life. The only kinds of women who show interest in guys that don't have their shit together are either too immature in the first place or emotional predators and if you're being genuine it sounds like those are the kinds of women you've been running into.

Get off the computer. Stop obsessing over what vapid whores on ticktoc are doing or how you're going to 'save the white race' or whatever it is that keeps you so pissed off at women. Go outside, and just do literally anything else with your time than what you're doing right now in this thread.
 
Yes and no. That's part of it. There's also the fact that every single relationship around me ends in divorce and they're all initiated by women.

My parents got divorced. Then my dad remarried and was divorced. My uncle was divorced, and he was really rich. My other aunt divorced her husband, and then even the longest standing relationship in my family, my father's brother and his wife, they stayed together until he died, but even then she was on her second marriage. So she abandoned her husband and her firstborn son to be with a different family.

There are no examples I have to draw on of women not leaving men and children. And plenty of examples of them doing so.
Fair enough.

Would you say that it's rational for a woman who's had the same experience but with the opposite sex, to similarly view all men negatively in a manner that maps to their personal experiences? Or no?

If not, why?
 
A healthy relationship in my opinion is one where both partners work together to try and maintain a happy and friendly life for themselves and their kids. Shared responsibility, spending time together when possible but being okay with only seeing each other after work some days. Coming to a consensus on the values to instill in children and then alternating time with the kids to help them grow and develop as best as possible, while being stern and disciplining when necessary.
I admit, I did not expect such a well thought-out and well-versed response in this conversation. It's not far from what I would describe. Thanks!

And yes, it's my fault that I was abused. That's exactly why I have no hope for anything to change, because people are so quick and eager to defend women's actions even when they have done something wrong.
We're on Kiwi Farms. There is entire section of the forum dedicated to laughing at dumb \ slutty \ clout-chasing women. Where we disagree is that you appear to believe that all women are like this.

I don't see women as cum dumpsters. But even if you pursue a fair and honest woman and you both have a shared interest and you take things slow and you develop a strong bond, there is still not a single damned thing that will stop her from leaving you. Maybe it won't be in three years, maybe it will be in five or ten, but she can still just walk away any time she wants, which is her right.
OK, fair but you can't tell me that men aren't capable of the same thing and that men don't leave their families. As a straight guy you never experienced it personally but I'm sure you heard about such situation in your family or among your friends. You attribute to one sex something that's an universal flaw in human nature.

Doesn't change how badly it will affect your entire life. The reward is not worth the risk.
OK, if being afraid that your wife will leave you one day maybe it's better to stay alone than to make yourself and your potential partner miserable.
Personally I would suggest getting better at reading warning signs.
Be very cautious if a woman leaves another guy for you.
Forget dating apps, do it the old-fashioned way.
Before you commit - see her angry.
If she drinks - before you commit see her drunk.
See how she treats her friends and your friends.
 
Dude I'm going out on a limb here in the hopes you might listen to me because you kinda sound like me when I was at my angriest after a string of pretty abusive relationships with some fucked up women.

My advice is this. Get off the internet and touch grass.

No seriously it's not a platitude even if it sounds like one. The truth is you don't meet psychologically healthy women ready for any kind of relationship unless you're out there doing shit and trying to get somewhere in life. The only kinds of women who show interest in guys that don't have their shit together are either too immature in the first place or emotional predators and if you're being genuine it sounds like those are the kinds of women you've been running into.

Get off the computer. Stop obsessing over what vapid whores on ticktoc are doing or how you're going to 'save the white race' or whatever it is that keeps you so pissed off at women. Go outside, and just do literally anything else with your time than what you're doing right now in this thread.
For the last time, I am not an incel. I already said I was gay once in this thread. I have a happy relationship with a man that I am in love with. That has nothing to do with how much I hate women.

But thank you, I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.

Fair enough.

Would you say that it's rational for a woman who's had the same experience but with the opposite sex, to similarly view all men negatively in a manner that maps to their personal experiences? Or no?

If not, why?
Of course, and there are plenty of women who hate men too, and have for a long time. Political lesbianism is an entire movement about women who openly despise all men.

It's just as rational as a man who hates all women.
 
For the last time, I am not an incel. I already said I was gay once in this thread. I have a happy relationship with a man that I am in love with. That has nothing to do with how much I hate women.

But thank you, I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.
Gotcha, my mistake.

That said for a gay man you do seem awfully concerned with women.

Why waste so much energy on this shit if you don't have a horse in the race?
 
Of course, and there are plenty of women who hate men too, and have for a long time. Political lesbianism is an entire movement about women who openly despise all men.

It's just as rational as a man who hates all women.
Do you think you are one of these men that deserves a woman of that particular bent's scorn?

Do you think a worldview such as that is reasonable if it also includes the assumption that you are the same kind of person by dint of being male, that caused them to form their worldview?

Do you think such women should, if you think their worldview is completely rational, also accept yours as rational?
 
I honestly don't get where null's postivity about women becoming some backbone of the right comes from. It always has vibes of cuckservatves who think "this will be the election where blacks and hispanics get sick of democrats and vote R to carry us to victory"
Just look at TERFs who make railing against trannies their core focus, even then the vast majority of them still vote dem/labour/whatever political party wants to make misgendering a federal crime.
I'm posting a screenshot of an answer to why more White women aren't in the DR, as I think it covers this topic as well.
source: http://www.renegadetribune.com/brandon-martinezs-shilling-exposed/
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In doing so he's not just aping Nazism like Fuentes, he's trying to reason with people who declare themselves 'based chauvinists'
Yeah but the second he runs up against a woman that goes against his way of thinking he immediately goes all in on appearance and he barely even engages with what they say. I know a lot of he women talks about dont have much to say but he will do a rundown on a Ralph segment but the second any woman comes up it's "this bitch ugly, this bitch looks like she was beaten with a bat".
 
Gotcha, my mistake.

That said for a gay man you do seem awfully concerned with women.

Why waste so much energy on this shit if you don't have a horse in the race?
This entire discussion started because Josh decided to talk about it on his podcast. I was responding to that. I don't usually concern myself with women, I avoid them as much as possible because I can't stand being around them. But I'm not just going to listen to Josh say "women helped Hitler that one time so obviously they will do so again". As if Americans should concern themselves with German history. Honestly I hope Putin just nukes the entire European continent, would save America one giant headache. But regardless, modern women are disgusting, broken shells and saying that they will shape up and stop opening OnlyFans when men improve themselves is not true and it absolves them of their sins, which makes me angry.
 
There are no examples I have to draw on of women not leaving men and children. And plenty of examples of them doing so.
You are who you put yourself around. Sounds like you need to hang out with more 'wife guys'. Guys who love their wives and hype them up. There are also so many women out there who would love to settle into a long-term relationship with any man who would be loyal and stable. Millions. They might be a little chubby, or a little older, but the concept that there are NO women out there that want to settle down is completely dismissive.

It's hard with the Internet, it's true. Women have an easier time cheating and fantasizing about adultery than ever before. But there are also good Christian women out there that don't even think about the concept. There are nerdy girls who don't want the stress of polyamory. There are fat chicks who wouldn't wanna fuck up what they have by rolling the dice on a chubby chaser. You just gotta lower your standards a little, and find a woman who's similarly afraid to be abandoned, keep constant contact with her, and realize your fear of the unknown is just that, fear of the infinite unknown in the darkness, where only a few set realities sit.

Put yourself out there, the homies are right, go touch some grass. Go to a concert. Pick up a hobby that both sexes enjoy. Do anything that casually puts you around women and scout out your possibilities. But sitting on the Internet with constant access to free pornography and platforms to vent on will only sap your will to change your situation. You got this life to live, use your valuable time wisely.
 
Do you think you are one of these men that deserves a woman of that particular bent's scorn?
Yes. I am an unlikeable autist who has no redeeming qualities.
Do you think a worldview such as that is reasonable if it also includes the assumption that you are the same kind of person by dint of being male, that caused them to form their worldview?
Yes, though I have seen plenty of women move on from me to other men so it doesn't seem to be the case in practice. In theory though, I certainly wouldn't blame a woman for swearing off men after spending time with me.
Do you think such women should, if you think their worldview is completely rational, also accept yours as rational?
No, because women are irrational creatures. They concern themselves with their in-group preference above all else, which is why they defend tranny shit. If you tell a woman that a pedophile who waves his dick at her is a woman, she will be less likely to speak up against him simply because she doesn't want to challenge another woman. This is another reason to hate them, by the way.
 
Yeah but the second he runs up against a woman that goes against his way of thinking he immediately goes all in on appearance and he barely even engages with what they say. I know a lot of he women talks about dont have much to say but he will do a rundown on a Ralph segment but the second any woman comes up it's "this bitch ugly, this bitch looks like she was beaten with a bat".
If Ralph could find a woman that didn't look like she was beaten with a bat, that would probably help. I don't know how anyone can look at Amanda Morris and not notice how shockingly ugly she is. Every time it's like a new assault onto the eyes, you just don't get used to it.

Anyways, Null doesn't call himself a feminist so idk why you hold him to that standard. You can respect women as a whole and still criticize select few who are terrible people.
 
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