Retard uprising in the "Mad at the Internet" thread over being told women should be considered in far-right politics

[LurkTrawl]

Just because women are irrational doesn't mean they cannot act rationally.

A belief isn't an act though. Well, it can be an act as in, falsely presented, but in and of itself you aren't "acting" by thinking. A thought isn't an action any more than words are in and of themselves actions.

The only absolute I deal in is that I hate all women and all criminals. Everything else has shades of grey, including the behavior of women and of criminals.

Hmm. Okay. That's a bit of a contradiction though.

It doesn't need to be all women. It's enough women that there's not really a benefit to tolerating any given woman, because the likelihood of her being worthless is high enough and I have nothing to gain from trusting her. If women as a whole don't provide you with any goods, services or benefit, is there any reason NOT to hate them?

To be fair that worldview could apply to humanity generally, and if you are indeed self-aware like you claim I'd hope you'd be aware of just how sociopathic that line of thinking is, as well as how such self-serving thinking is often foundational for the actions of the very kind of people you claim to hate so much.

I mean, it's kind of impressive that you can type out the part that's bolded and not have the realization that perhaps the people who act in the manner that you've described as being so despicable were much like yourself. Someone who was hurt in a manner that lead them to view others in a way that leads them to believe those people deserved such treatment.

Oh, a general nihilist approach towards humanity as a whole is definitely part of my worldview. But I especially hate women, so I consider myself more of a misogynist than a misanthrope.

Alright.

I hate women because I dislike the way they act. I dislike them being dishonest. I dislike them being disloyal. I dislike their screeching voices, their bitchy behavior, their self-entitled manner of carrying themselves. I dislike that women will walk up to a man twice their size and tell him off and expect that they will not be punched in the face for it. Perhaps that is how society functions but that doesn't mean I have to like it. It is unnatural for a creature that is small to not be afraid of a creature that is big.

I quoted the whole thing and bolded the relevant part so you wouldn't think I'm taking you out of context or something like that. This again smacks of the same type of thinking that people who, again, you claim to hate often have rattling around in their skulls.

Have you ever considered that? Or realized that? If so how do you handle knowing that you're not all too much different from the kind of abusive/uncaring people who've hurt both you and others in your life? And how do you reconcile that with the possibility that these people were okay with what they did because they might've similarly had awful experiences with people in their lives?

I figured I'd ask these kinds of questions and have a dialogue here since it's not often that someone of your mindset gets further than the first few questions without spazzing the fuck out or repeating themselves.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

If women as a whole don't provide you with any goods, services or benefit, is there any reason NOT to hate them?

It is, in my opinion, very dysfunctional to treat every human interaction as a transaction. It is also very dysfunctional if hate is your default feeling when you think about another person who's never done anything bad to you.

So what? Plenty of people hate gays, that's no skin off my back. Do you hate people who hate whites? I'm not pro-Hitler or anything. Again, this was a direct response to Josh's segment on MATI which directly referenced Hitler. If you haven't listened to what he said then it might be harder for you to understand my response to it.

I listened. He used Hitler as an example to show that women can support right wing policies. Hitler was fitting there because he was talking about Fuentes who idolizes Hitler but also is a gay \ incel grifter.

Do you hate people who hate whites?

I have similar feeling for them as I have for you: I strongly disagree with them but I don't hate them because they are inconsequential for me. I don't think I genuinely hate any group of people.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

There is nothing redeemable about women. I don't have any interest in them

@Vingle is this a certified homosexual statement?

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

To be fair that worldview could apply to humanity generally, and if you are indeed self-aware like you claim I'd hope you'd be aware of just how sociopathic that line of thinking is, as well as how such self-serving thinking is often foundational for the actions of the very kind of people you claim to hate so much.

Indeed, it's entirely possible that I'm a sociopath. And? You don't stop being a sociopath just by acknowledging the possibility.

I mean, it's kind of impressive that you can type out the part that's bolded and not have the realization that perhaps the people who act in the manner that you've described as being so despicable were much like yourself. Someone who was hurt in a manner that lead them to view others in a way that leads them to believe those people deserved such treatment.

The difference is that I am actively avoiding the people I dislike, in part so that I do not mistreat them. I can't harm women if I never speak to them or touch them, can I?

Have you ever considered that? Or realized that? If so how do you handle knowing that you're not all too much different from the kind of abusive/uncaring people who've hurt both you and others in your life? And how do you reconcile that with the possibility that these people were okay with what they did because they might've similarly had awful experiences with people in their lives?

Of course I have. But you're trying to make an appeal to logic. Hatred is an emotion, a reaction. No matter what I think, when I see a woman I feel a burst of revulsion and disgust and anger. That is not something that I have any control over. I can control how I allow it to influence my behavior, but not the emotion itself.

I mean, it's kind of impressive that you can type out the part that's bolded and not have the realization that perhaps the people who act in the manner that you've described as being so despicable were much like yourself. Someone who was hurt in a manner that lead them to view others in a way that leads them to believe those people deserved such treatment.

I don't care what their reasoning is. Nothing they have experienced justifies their behavior. A wrong is wrong no matter why it happens. Unless these women had a gun pointed to their head and were ordered by someone else to do what they did or die, then they made an active choice in behaving the way they did and that's enough for me to condemn them for it.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The difference is that I am actively avoiding the people I dislike, in part so that I do not mistreat them. I can't harm women if I never speak to them or touch them, can I?

Commendable.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Women speak indirectly, they use softening language to try and make the person they're speaking to feel better even when they disagree.

How's this for direct: fuck off, you backwards inbred loser. Sorry you lost at the game of life.

I will never trust a woman again

Cry more.

I've been betrayed, abandoned and used that I should continue to make myself available for women to betray, abandon and use me because there may one day come a time where a woman chooses not to betray, abandon and use me

The reward is not worth the risk.

You're on the right track: stay away from women.

Most people who get disappointed by a mate (or observing others' dealings) don't expand that to encompass everyone who shares certain characteristics with that person. If that's not you, if your experience has to become a pronouncement about the character and worth of everyone like the person who harmed you or people you know, then you are indeed not in a position to connect with those people.

There's also the fact that every single relationship around me ends in divorce and they're all initiated by women.

You glossed over what someone said earlier about the reason that women are more often the initiator of divorce is men's infidelity.

My parents got divorced.

OK. That's possibly the problem. You shouldn't have tried to be married/have a serious relationship with a woman without sorting that out (if you did; if you didn't then you're still fucked up but also don't know what you're talking about). Therapy.

I already said I was gay once in this thread. I have a happy relationship with a man that I am in love with.

I'm glad to hear that - sincerely, if true. So why so much comment about women as Jezebel? What's been your actual experience? Sounds as though you tried hetero before going gay? If so, could it be that your gayness manifested in a way (overtly or latently) that alienated your female partner? If not, then you're talking out of your ass.

In theory though, I certainly wouldn't blame a woman for swearing off men after spending time with me.

it's good you recognize your toxicity as a human.

that's good enough for me.

It's not good enough.

If women as a whole don't provide you with any goods, services or benefit, is there any reason NOT to hate them?

Humanity and solid mental health?

it's entirely possible that I'm a sociopath. And? You don't stop being a sociopath just by acknowledging the possibility.

I think you're onto something here. Only a sociopath ((or an edgelord)) would be unconcerned about possibly being one.

I am actively avoiding the people I dislike,

Good decision.

in part so that I do not mistreat them.

Bullshit. Sociopaths don't care about that, and whatever your psychological makeup, I don't believe you. You sound more afraid than protective or motivated by any decent intention.

 

[murph]

Goddamn this faggot's blog is boring.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

why so much comment about women as Jezebel? What's been your actual experience? Sounds as though you tried hetero before going gay? If so, could it be that your gayness manifested in a way (overtly or latently) that alienated your female partner?

I don't get why he talks about being cheated on, how women can't be trusted, alimony etc. but is homosexual as well. Spill the bills OP, did you ever fuck a woman in the pussy before or did your current faghag betray you?

As if there's not an up front cost to dating and pursuing women that you never get back.

What would this matter to you as a gay male?

And yes, it's my fault that I was abused. That's exactly why I have no hope for anything to change, because people are so quick and eager to defend women's actions even when they have done something wrong.

What was the nature of this abuse?

For the last time, I am not an incel. I already said I was gay once in this thread. I have a happy relationship with a man that I am in love with.

With all the sperging about dating women, would you not be bi?

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

How's this for direct: fuck off, you backwards inbred loser. Sorry you lost at the game of life.

See, that I can respect. Easy for you to do behind a computer screen. Not so easy in person.

You glossed over what someone said earlier about the reason that women are more often the initiator of divorce is men's infidelity.

Because I don't believe her.

OK. That's possibly the problem. You shouldn't have tried to be married/have a serious relationship with a woman without sorting that out (if you did; if you didn't then you're still fucked up but also don't know what you're talking about). Therapy.

Yes that's a genius idea. Someone who absolutely despises women and can't stand to be around them should go and pay a woman $100 an hour to listen to her tell him that he's a fuck up. That won't end badly.

I'm glad to hear that - sincerely, if true. So why so much comment about women as Jezebel? What's been your actual experience? Sounds as though you tried hetero before going gay? If so, could it be that your gayness manifested in a way (overtly or latently) that alienated your female partner? If not, then you're talking out of your ass.

This was literally one post. I disagreed with Josh about a segment on his podcast one time and then a bunch of people dogpiled me. Do you think I should just ignore everything everyone is asking me?

Bullshit. Sociopaths don't care about that, and whatever your psychological makeup, I don't believe you. You sound more afraid than protective or motivated by any decent intention.

Maybe so. Nothing wrong with being afraid of your own anger.

I don't get why he talks about being cheated on, how women can't be trusted, alimony etc. but is homosexual as well. Spill the bills OP, did you ever fuck a woman in the pussy before or did your current faghag betray you?

I was straight until I realized that women were despicable trash and then swore them off entirely. Best decision I ever made.

What was the nature of this abuse?

Physical.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Indeed, it's entirely possible that I'm a sociopath. And? You don't stop being a sociopath just by acknowledging the possibility.

I think you missed the point of what I was getting at. Which is:

The difference is that I am actively avoiding the people I dislike, in part so that I do not mistreat them. I can't harm women if I never speak to them or touch them, can I?

But do you mistreat others in your life? Would you be aware of it if you did?

Do you think you're a bad person? Do you think the people in your life who have influenced you to have your worldview on this topic believed themselves to be bad people?

The point generally that I was getting at wasn't as narrow as whether or not you should be concerned about coming off as sociopathic so much as it is that you share the same manner of thinking as someone who would abuse others. The same kind of person you say you hate. A person who is capable of behavior that they may not recognize as harmful and indeed much like you did here, rationalize their way of thinking in a manner that separates them from others who influenced them into being the person that they are.

And to put a finer point on it merely avoiding women doesn't mean that you, much like such people themselvess, might be unaware of the harm that you do if any. I mean, there are plenty of people who would argue that viewing relationships as transactional to the extent that you apparently do is in and of itself a form of abuse towards the people who believe themselves to be close to you.

Of course I have. But you're trying to make an appeal to logic. Hatred is an emotion, a reaction. No matter what I think, when I see a woman I feel a burst of revulsion and disgust and anger. That is not something that I have any control over. I can control how I allow it to influence my behavior, but not the emotion itself.

Logic and emotion aren't completely compartmentalized in the mind. They influence one another, if what you're saying here held any water people wouldn't be capable of overcoming phobias, for instance.

But that's not as interesting as you more or less saying that you're controlled by your emotions. How do you reconcile feeling that way about your own emotions and how they affect you with the notion you have that women are irrational by nature? Is it not a mark of an irrational person to be incapable of regulating their emotions with reason?

 

[frap]

I was straight until I realized that women were despicable trash and then swore them off entirely. Best decision I ever made.

I’ve heard of political lesbianism but you might be the first literal political faggot.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

But do you mistreat others in your life? Would you be aware of it if you did?

Ah, that's an interesting question. Let's see....I don't really have anyone else in my life, other than my significant other, and I treat him as well as I possibly can. But I think I would be aware if I was being cruel to someone else. I know what it's like, and I know how to do it intentionally when I want to.

Do you think you're a bad person?

Yes, but I think everyone is a bad person.

Do you think the people in your life who have influenced you to have your worldview on this topic believed themselves to be bad people?

No. The common trend I see among women, in this thread and beyond, is a total and complete unwillingness to take any responsibility for their actions. I do not believe women who abuse men think they are bad. I do not believe women who abuse children think they are bad. I do not believe female criminals think they are bad. I think that women genuinely seem to have some sort of built-in self-defense mechanism where they seem incapable of admitting any fault.

And to put a finer point on it merely avoiding women doesn't mean that you, much like such people themselvess, might be unaware of the harm that you do if any. I mean, there are plenty of people who would argue that viewing relationships as transactional to the extent that you apparently do is in and of itself a form of abuse towards the people who believe themselves to be close to you.

That doesn't matter if I don't allow anyone to be close to me, now does it?

But that's not as interesting as you more or less saying that you're controlled by your emotions. How do you reconcile feeling that way about your own emotions and how they affect you with the notion you have that women are irrational by nature? Is it not a mark of an irrational person to be incapable of regulating their emotions with reason?

I don't have to reconcile it. I never stated I was controlled by my emotions. I stated that I could stop how my emotions affect me, didn't I? I do not harm anyone. I do not attack anyone. Someone like Elliot Roger is the type who is controlled by his emotion. And no, I do not think anyone is capable of "regulating" their emotions. You can hide your emotions from others but you can't stop yourself from feeling them. Emotions are a chemical reaction in the brain to outside stimuli, it is a completely involuntarily biological function.

 

[Gog & Magog]

I was straight until I realized that women were despicable trash and then swore them off entirely.

This may be the gayest and most retarded thing I've read all week.

 

[Shidoen]

Op forgot that astolfo isn’t real, femboys are still gay, and subway foot longs are only 11 inches.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Op forgot that astolfo isn’t real, femboys are still gay, and subway foot longs are only 11 inches.

It's too late, he's taking that Monster can up the ass now.

 

[Shidoen]

It's too late, he's taking that Monster can up the ass now.

You can compare the downward spiral of his life by matching up his goatse with the rings of a tree stump.

 

[Odd Opossum]

Josh's takes on women are by far his dumbest. Yes, we should not encourage pedo retards, and yes lowering the age of consent will not fix birth rates. But there is no institution or structure by which you can deliver any sort of massive social message or pressure to women to make them understand that they must have children or there is no future. It does not exist. Religion has been completely destroyed, no one goes to churches and the people who do go to churches are not respected. There is no public square, no sense of community, everyone stays inside and ignores everyone else.

A united front between men and women requires both men and women to not be retarded and Josh puts the onus on men to stop being retards, completely convinced that women will stop being retards when men stop being retards. No. Women are worthless, disgusting trash. They are disloyal, they are dishonest, they are cowardly and they are weak.

Just because Fuentes doesn't have the answer doesn't mean Josh does either. There is no answer. We have no future, we are all doomed. The powers that be have won.

Guys like you used to just join incel forums, now you all have to try and make "I CAN'T BREED" an actual political statement.

 

[Lake]

I was straight until I realized that women were despicable trash and then swore them off entirely. Best decision I ever made.

How like a woman.

Your "self-awareness" is a joke.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

@Don't Tread on Me would you smash?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/philosophy-tube-oliver-lennard-oliver-olly-thorn-abigail-thorn.87375/

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

@Don't Tread on Me would you smash?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/philosophy-tube-oliver-lennard-oliver-olly-thorn-abigail-thorn.87375/

Absolutely not lol.