Writer's Guild Strike of 2023 - Fuck these people

What is worse?

  • A consoomer, who produces nothing, devours everything, and will threaten you if you dare disturb the

    Votes: 87 15.3%

  • The one who's work is to forever feed the consoomer?

    Votes: 25 4.4%

  • Feed them all to feral pigs

    Votes: 456 80.3%
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    568
A film production can result in 3300+ metric tons of CO2 emissions and a TV show can have a carbon footprint of 77 metric tons of CO2 per episode. And that's on top of all trash that comes from their catering. These are the same people who want us to give up our cars to save the environment and sold us on lockdowns / forever masks to stop the flu. Maybe we should just allow Hollywood to collapse because it would be the green thing to do.

And why are we expected to have sympathy for actors / writers? Is there any other job where you'd watch someone do it for years and still be unstable / in poverty, and you wouldn't just tell them to change careers? But no, they've been sold on the lie that they'll someday be the super star making tons of money doing their dream job. So they do the starving artist thing and expect us to go to bat for them because $90k-$200k a year writing wokeshit is only acceptable if you make it every year.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
All the studios need is A. Desperate writers and actors and B. Proof that AI leads to a viable return on their investment.
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What I don't get is how there aren't scabs lining up around the block for the writers guild. These writers are so abysmal that literally anyone could do their job, and there's so many opportunities out there for writers now that don't involve unions that it wouldn't even impact your career.
 
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Save the Loli said:
What I don't get is how there aren't scabs lining up around the block for the writers guild.
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I'm guessing the studios are unwilling to actively break the strike, at least for the present. They're all theoretically liberal Democrats and doing so would be a very bad look. To the extent ESG scores matter that would be a disaster as well.

One thing I've never fully gotten my arms around but I think is also a factor is the power agents have in Hollywood. The scab writers would be by definition agent-less, since no agent would touch them, and what that would mean in terms of the actors and directors these same agents represent is anybody's guess.
 
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Elwood P. Dowd said:
One thing I've never fully gotten my arms around but I think is also a factor is the power agents have in Hollywood. The scab writers would be by definition agent-less, since no agent would touch them, and what that would mean in terms of the actors and directors these same agents represent is anybody's guess.
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I think there's a chance the agents are the gatekeepers, and like the producers and moguls, those are the ones you gotta...impress...before you get anywhere in Tinseltown.
 
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And why are we expected to have sympathy for actors / writers?
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While I might have empathy towards those who are bit actors and extras who occasionally appear in one 20 second scene and receive minimal pay and residual income, I have a hard time having empathy for the big name actors who demand and get without pushback six-figure salaries or more for everything they appear in.

Fran Drescher speaking about the alleged hardship union members are facing is rich :story: (no pun intended). Actors who have been in the business as long as Fran has should have been able to save a nice sum unless they're spending it all on a bigtime lifestyle or squandering it on bad investments and drugs. Similarly, the e-begging grift to help financially support strikers is also a wow moment. If actors are willing to announce they are going on strike because principles matter most, they should be prepared to take the financial hit that comes with receiving minimal strike pay.

Looking at current happening as a whole, I get the impression that every large union may be looking to strike this year. I don't know if it's about making a name for themselves, or demanding higher pay and benefits in light of COVID -- and the related safety nets -- being officially declared over earlier this year, or something else.

However, things could get interesting if public sentiment eventually sours as it tends to do when strikes prolong. The last prolonged teachers strike in my part of Kiwi Land saw parents who initially supported the teachers slowly and silently enroll their kids anywhere that would take them (adjoining districts, private schools, or charter schools) because the kids were starting to suffer from learning gaps/loss and missing out on fall sports and other extracurricular activities.

Relating this to the Writers Guild Strike, the longer it drags out, the more likely it is that some fans realize they don't miss the dreck Hollywood has been pumping out and simply stop consuming product when everyone goes back to work. It may be a small minority of fans, and a silent one at that, but plenty of normies who have to live within their means dislike seeing millionaires haggling over how to divvy up more millions between themselves.
 
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Kiwi Lime Pie said:
Fran Drescher speaking about the alleged hardship union members are facing is rich :story: (no pun intended). Actors who have been in the business as long as Fran has should have been able to save a nice sum unless they're spending it all on a bigtime lifestyle or squandering it on bad investments and drugs.
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I give her the benefit of doubt, not everyone is always about the grift. problem is you can never have one without the other, which means either you do nothing, or something with the knowledge someone will exploit it. keep in mind a lot of old actors are in the guild as well who did solid work for years, if not decades, but now have to carry the useless woke shitters. but that's what happens when you don't promote by merit anymore...
not a defense of those shitters, but another thing you also have to remember is hollywood is a liberal shithole, either you tow the line or you're out, and not every can or want to handle that.
 
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And nothing of value would be lost.
 
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There's a bit of doom and gloom about AI in this thread, but I would say its a net positive. If AI can do the job of the shitters just as well as they do, actual writers will have to do/be better than AI. That might allow the cream to rise to the top. And, since there will be more money around due to not having to prop up (or "pay a living wage to") the bottom 2/3rds of writers, the actual writers might be paid better. This is especially true of investigative reporting, as there is a lot of research involved in doing it well.
 
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WULULULULU said:
Am I the only one who thinks binge-watching is retarded. How is one supposed to process what they watched when they're constantly bombarded by the next?
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It's only retarded when you've never bothered to have any emotional investment to it the first or few so viewings. The background noise and having a familiar ambiance of something you know in and out is something of a relaxing thing, kind of like when you get home and you hear family/roommates watching TV. Naturally, this does get old, but that tends to happen with video runs.
Bugman's Burden said:
A film production can result in 3300+ metric tons of CO2 emissions and a TV show can have a carbon footprint of 77 metric tons of CO2 per episode. And that's on top of all trash that comes from their catering. These are the same people who want us to give up our cars to save the environment and sold us on lockdowns / forever masks to stop the flu. Maybe we should just allow Hollywood to collapse because it would be the green thing to do.

And why are we expected to have sympathy for actors / writers? Is there any other job where you'd watch someone do it for years and still be unstable / in poverty, and you wouldn't just tell them to change careers? But no, they've been sold on the lie that they'll someday be the super star making tons of money doing their dream job. So they do the starving artist thing and expect us to go to bat for them because $90k-$200k a year writing wokeshit is only acceptable if you make it every year.
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That's why Hollywood is a flesh trade. When it's not having people flipping burgers and cleaning toilets out of the exploitation of their hopes and dreams, they expect them to get "extra favors" on that casting couch if they ever want a chance or even feed them to their bottomfeeders associates if they are scummy enough. Even then, Hollywood has long hooked America and the rest of the world on the ideal of the "it guy/girl". That's their feedback loop. Get one person up on that pedestal and lathe them in all of the attention in the world, that helps to perpetuate the charade. I'm not trying to be so cyncial, but it's incredibly naieve to believe that this cannot be exploited for all that it's worth. So many broken dreams and even lives are the foundations which the Hollywood Dream is built off of. And there's a lot of money that has gone into this enterprise to where one day, we will see blood shed just to protect their coffers. Not calling anything, but knowing how the times are, this isn't going to go without a bang at some point.
 
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