Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[Cheeseknife]

Anyone else notice how there's ongoing transition regret being shared through Tik Tok of all platforms? And a lot of them are young adults who transitioned as teenagers. Some of them talk about the brainwashing, how they felt compelled to make these decisions based on all this postmodern pseudo-science. Tragic stuff.

Jordan Peterson predicted lawsuits in the future for all these kids who had their bodies and/or biology fucked with. When do y'all think that'll start to ramp up?

 

[Android raptor]

Is there such a thing as "normie trans people" though?

That's most trans people, actually.

 

[Procrastinhater]

That's most trans people, actually.

To say its "most" of them strikes me as wildly optimistic, although I'll grant you a big problem the transexual (I'll use that term to distinguish the old type of tranny that has gender dysmorphia and doesn't make their weirdness the focus of their lives) community has is the batshit crazy fucks are the loudest and attract the most attention. The Transexuals don't do themselves any favors though, more of them should go the Blaire White route of calling out the AGP creeps for what they are, its harder for the weirdo perverts to deflect criticism as "just twansphobia" when the criticism is coming from inside the house, so to speak.
They don't though, they let the freaks and the gross fetishists carry on with their exhibitionist shit unopposed and therefore its the vile AGP types that get the attention and that people think of when they think of a tranny.
I'm not denying there are some transexuals that just want to live their lives and aren't into "cracking eggs" and forcing their way into womens bathrooms, and know that they'll never really be women, but I'd really doubt its "most" of them.
They've always been a tiny fraction of a percentage of the population until just recently, now it seems whenever you hear about a tranny its some AGP monstrosity shoving their histrionic troon shit in peoples faces and demanding they be "validated".

 

[Cheeseknife]

They've always been a tiny fraction of a percentage of the population until just recently,

They still are. It's just that the mainstream would have you believe differently through so much exposure in movies, TV, and games. Perception is reality.

 

[JunkMan.exe]

I love troons, and encourage them to completely destroy their bodies, Their useless attempts to go against logic, nature and reality itself is absolutely amusing, their existence will only know disappointment, suffering and mockery, What a Wonderful World to live in.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Anyone else notice how there's ongoing transition regret being shared through Tik Tok of all platforms? And a lot of them are young adults who transitioned as teenagers. Some of them talk about the brainwashing, how they felt compelled to make these decisions based on all this postmodern pseudo-science. Tragic stuff.

Jordan Peterson predicted lawsuits in the future for all these kids who had their bodies and/or biology fucked with. When do y'all think that'll start to ramp up?

Their finally letting anti transitions into the platform so that they can cause chaos with those who think they are untouchable. It's funny to watch imo.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

They're gross to look at and I'm forced to see them more and more as the cult expands,

 

[teriyakiburns]

When do y'all think that'll start to ramp up?

There's two or three already.

 

[Pimpleking55]

its a triple entendre when a troon is also a commie as they dont have the slightest idea as to why they wouldnt be allowed to live in the first place. But tell us about how communism has all the answers.

Its a delusion, i have family living in Russia and the mother of my sister in law to this day goes completely mental if there is no bread or potatoes in the house. From what i gathered there are 3 kind of people in communism: the smart ones whom some are in charge but most are dead, the complacent ones who are living miserable and some are dead, the loud ones which are all dead.
I have read a thread on i think Resetera a quite a while ago about when the revolution succeeded which job would you do in the utopia. One was gender supporter, other party song composer, another one would have a store with gluten-free spirit enhancing cookies....well you get the idea, the most stupid jobs imaginable not realizing that when Communism is here the first work party official would take a look at you and drop your ass in a steel-mill.

If Karl Marx had a look at this he would use everything capitalism has to offer to murder every attendee present here. Which make me ponder why do these dregs always turn to communism?, i could understand loony libertarian or anarchism...but communism?, where the success of the state depends on the collective efforts and hard work of the people, no time to dilate when there are quotas to be made.

 

[FinnSven]

To say its "most" of them strikes me as wildly optimistic, although I'll grant you a big problem the transexual (I'll use that term to distinguish the old type of tranny that has gender dysmorphia and doesn't make their weirdness the focus of their lives) community has is the batshit crazy fucks are the loudest and attract the most attention. The Transexuals don't do themselves any favors though, more of them should go the Blaire White route of calling out the AGP creeps for what they are, its harder for the weirdo perverts to deflect criticism as "just twansphobia" when the criticism is coming from inside the house, so to speak.
They don't though, they let the freaks and the gross fetishists carry on with their exhibitionist shit unopposed and therefore its the vile AGP types that get the attention and that people think of when they think of a tranny.
I'm not denying there are some transexuals that just want to live their lives and aren't into "cracking eggs" and forcing their way into womens bathrooms, and know that they'll never really be women, but I'd really doubt its "most" of them.
They've always been a tiny fraction of a percentage of the population until just recently, now it seems whenever you hear about a tranny its some AGP monstrosity shoving their histrionic troon shit in peoples faces and demanding they be "validated".

I would imagine that the non batshit ones don’t speak up due to the fact that as you say they don’t want the attention.

They have seen the troon mob harass JK Rowling and other pretty innocent and harmless people for saying the truth.
So I would imagine that not many of them are willing to go out on a limb to risk their ire.

Other than Blaire White, the other players prominent trans person to make a stand is Buck Angel, granddaddy of pooners.

What Blaire and Buck have in common however is a dedicated following, and are used to dealing with controversy and criticism.
Most transsexuals are not. They are just ordinary people, more or less, with a mental disorder.

It’s not like people would expect a bunch of schizophrenics to speak up against a group of sociopaths claiming schizophrenia for their own ends.

 

[River possum]

I'm sure it's been said already in this thread so if that's the case and I missed it I'll just be reiterating the point, but my problem with them is two fold: that it's fundamentally against nature which is why it's so disgusting at its core, and as a mother they are a physical threat to myself and my daughters. The other problem that doesn't get brought up as much as it should, is the general public being so spineless that they just go along with it like lemmings to the cliff. And frankly that might be even worse.

 

[Procrastinhater]

There's two or three already.

I think its the detransitioners suing the butchers that mutilated them and more importantly the "counsellors" and the ideological fanatics that use gender shit as a one size fits all for anyone who goes to them for help, (no matter if they present with a whole host of other problems up to and including actually hearing voices telling them to cut themselves in the case of one famous Pooner) and who railroad concerned parent with appaling emotional blackmail like the standard "would you rather have a dead --- or a live ---?" into going along with something that all their instincts is screaming is wrong.
Its the therapists that need to be targeted by these lawsuits, and I think it will only take 3 or 4 sucessful cases for to go through with a decent payout for every ambulance chasing lawyer to realize theres money to be made suing these fucks.
The only thing that will stop the top down astroturfing of the Gender Cult is if it stops making money and starts to cost it, these fuckers don't give a shit about the wellbeing of the Troons and Pooners they are butchering, they just see every troubled kid that goes to them for help as a potentially permanent patient and therefore cash cow.
If the surgeons and "therapists" see there's a chance of them getting sued and their blood money being at risk they'll be less eager to do it, at least the ones who are motivated purely by greed. The ideologues won't stop, but fanatics never do, but the true believers are fewer in number than kikes who just see a paycheck in permanently medicalizing and sterilizing the insane.

The other problem that doesn't get brought up as much as it should, is the general public being so spineless that they just go along with it like lemmings to the cliff. And frankly that might be even worse.

Totally agree with your point about the general public, just want to note it's even worse than that, Lemmings aren't actually that stupid, apparantly the BBC documentary that started that myth faked the footage of Lemmings jumping off cliffs by dumping a box full of Lemmings to get those shots. Wether this is true or not, the suicidal Lemmings thing has since been disproven, seems even Lemmings aren't that fucking dumb.

 

[AnOminous]

Troons are malingerers they're so fucking entitled and so used to having their asses kissed you know they'd end up back talking some Commisar or Guard and getting a bullet in the head.
Even without the back talk, the chances of troons making it to Siberia and not just getting marched out to the nearest tree line and forced to dig a trench then kneel is pretty small.

A troon isn't even worth the bullet. Nor could these weak troons even dig a trench. You'd have to dig it yourself and then crush the troon's skull with the shovel.

There's two or three already.

If even one of those gets something like a Brooklyn jury sized judgment, that will be the blood in the water that gets the sharks circling.

Troons are nothing if not mercenary and like nothing more than money for not working, so if they can get more by suing their quacks than with their gogriftme scams, they will.

 

[Space Police]

I've been seeing lots of pro-"reasonable trans people" comments in this thread and the random trans thoughts thread. I strongly disagree with these and believe that these "reasonable" trannies are just as mentally ill and unhinged as the 6-foot John 50 AGP troons.

First, they still support treating a mental issue by physical means, which doesn't actually help them manage their situation (aside from temporary euphoria that will 100% dissolve). You may look at Blaire White and say that he's reasonable and normal, but he's clearly a mentally-ill plastic surgery addict. Is that really something we want to support or encourage? Do we really want to encourage a bunch of volatile, vulnerable individuals (who probably have autism and/or trauma) to go down the path of surgery addiction, taking hormones that will result in several health issues? Surprise surprise, your body needs proper-sex hormones to be healthy -- it can't be healthy if it is running mainly on opposite-sex hormones. Supporting this is how you get a bunch of teenage girls lining up to get unnecessary mastectomies which have several health complications and they probably will regret. Truscum will say that's "reverse dysphoria" because they weren't "actually trans", which is incredibly offensive and minimizing towards detransitioners. Besides, how can you tell which traumatized, autistic GNC lesbian tired of misogyny and homophobia will regret her transition? You can't!!! The truscum also love to say "muh brain sex" and "muh transsexualism is a medical condition". "Brain sex" is an idea rooted in homophobia (as the "opposite sex brains" are really just homosexual brains), and if it was a medical condition, the symptoms of it would be mainly physical, not psychological. The "medical condition" rhetoric is also a veiled form of manipulation via suicide-baiting since it implies that trannies will die if they can't transition, even though they only way they'll die from not transitioning is if they 41%.

Truscum males like Blaire White also use the women's restrooms and inserts himself into women's spaces even though he's a man and therefore doesn't belong in women's spaces. Do you seriously support a man inserting himself into women's spaces because he's afraid of other men? On that logic, you may as well put pedos who are afraid of getting murdered or raped in men's prisons into women's prisons -- and this is what is happening. Why does Blaire White deserve to be in women's spaces but not a 6-foot rapist AGP brick? Because Blaire is more feminine? If that's the case, then you just reduced sex to stereotypes, which is an incredibly misogynistic and regressive viewpoint and one of the main causes of troonism.

I guess this alls shows what my fundamental problem with troons is. It's an ideology based on enforcing sex stereotypes rather than advancing past them -- stereotypes created to hurt and oppress women. Troonism always ends up turning into denial of physical sex, which is weird transhumanist nonsense, and it pushes risky, unnecessary surgery/medication as a cure to mental issues -- a cure that doesn't help the patient manage the issues but instead bury them under "euphoria" like a drug addict and get more surgery/medication.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

If Karl Marx had a look at this he would use everything capitalism has to offer to murder every attendee present here. Which make me ponder why do these dregs always turn to communism?, i could understand loony libertarian or anarchism...but communism?, where the success of the state depends on the collective efforts and hard work of the people, no time to dilate when there are quotas to be made.

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Troons are nothing if not mercenary and like nothing more than money for not working, so if they can get more by suing their quacks than with their gogriftme scams, they will.

basically this, i know you weren't answering the above question directly but it comes to the nub of it.

idiots who think you can change sex also think all work can be automated and therefore working is pointless. forced by the system to stop us living our truth or whatever. their idea of a communist utopia is actually just them personally not having to work. they don't care about their delivery drivers (the ones i know seem to need an wful lot of these....), doctors, conservationsists, whatever. get them to name a value they claim to hold dear and they'll still prefer not to work than put an ounce of effort into that. they don't actually care about communism, just living a cushy life without working.

what champagne socialists and troons have in common is their professed beliefs mean nothing to them, holding a coherent argument for a single sentence means nothing to them. they have a set of allowed things, commandments if you will, from on high and will repeat them as nauseam, never stopping to consider what their interlocuters are saying. they believe in communism as much as they believe in biology, not at all. they see benefits to professing these beliefs, so do so.

i try not to harbour ill will to people, its not good for me, but honestly i'm glad these people end up lonely and bitter, and that if ever they get their desired revolution, they won't even get a bullet wasted on them, it'll be straight in the mass grave. they'll probably suffocate under bodies swearing they'll become a woman any day now and this communism isn't done right.

 

[TruffleSpark]

what champagne socialists and troons have in common is their professed beliefs mean nothing to them, holding a coherent argument for a single sentence means nothing to them. they have a set of allowed things, commandments if you will, from on high and will repeat them as nauseam, never stopping to consider what their interlocuters are saying. they believe in communism as much as they believe in biology, not at all. they see benefits to professing these beliefs, so do so.

And they will change what their publicly stated beliefs are on a moments notice, and act like what they claim to believe in yesterday had always been heresy I've spent enough time around these people to learn how to truly hate them.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Its a delusion, i have family living in Russia and the mother of my sister in law to this day goes completely mental if there is no bread or potatoes in the house. From what i gathered there are 3 kind of people in communism: the smart ones whom some are in charge but most are dead, the complacent ones who are living miserable and some are dead, the loud ones which are all dead.
I have read a thread on i think Resetera a quite a while ago about when the revolution succeeded which job would you do in the utopia. One was gender supporter, other party song composer, another one would have a store with gluten-free spirit enhancing cookies....well you get the idea, the most stupid jobs imaginable not realizing that when Communism is here the first work party official would take a look at you and drop your ass in a steel-mill.

If Karl Marx had a look at this he would use everything capitalism has to offer to murder every attendee present here. Which make me ponder why do these dregs always turn to communism?, i could understand loony libertarian or anarchism...but communism?, where the success of the state depends on the collective efforts and hard work of the people, no time to dilate when there are quotas to be made.

Troons are on the autism spectrum. What you see them do is take thing's at face value. One thing I like to say about this, is that they act and read like stereo instructions. You push button receive function and it stays that way and this is how an interpretation to communism gets put into place. They don't understand or even want to understand about how the real world or human nature works and they simply think that, just like a stereo you can turn off a setting and changes things by having muh communism happen and that's the end of it. You me and your cats squeaky toy know that's not what the real world has happen and they just cant process that in any way.

Alot of them suffer from a small worldview which is something that alot of neurotypical people do in earnest as nowadays the internet has brought down that type of ignorance a small bit. They think that the way they live and how their lives ( which are amazingly hollow and vapid. ) is how it applies to the rest of everyone. I know for a fact that anyone with any sort of balls or determination in life can make something out of themself even in the roughest situation. But a troon is emotionally fragile compared to, well lets say a fucking Kleenex and they want the idea of competition taken out so that everyone is on their level. This is one other thing I understand sadly all to well.

Troons and like you said dregs don't like the idea of competition which is what socialism/communism set to destroy. When you are a loser you naturally hate/envy anyone that can stand up to life and be able to tel life how they want to live. Capitalism embodies and even rewards greed/intelligence and alot of the negative aspects of being human that a troon cannot handle or even compete against. A loser by default even says that this is to remove the rat race and profit margins that they enjoy themselves with thing's that capitalism has to offer ( uber eats and funko pop's for example )

One thing that Churchill said was that " Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth, and Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty". The lack of wealth is what troons want to keep them in the same bracket as someone isn't a fucking loser like them and they wont admit this because people that have a fragile ego can't or they melt down. It's pathetic but it's a situation as old as the human condition. T

This has been a bit of a sperg but I understand this all too well. Thanks for reading it.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Which make me ponder why do these dregs always turn to communism?

Pride.

Life is full of adversity and some people want a turnkey solution that will enable them to live their lives without having to suffer for it. If they've been offered a turnkey solution by their government, they're going to take it.

It's a denial of reality, denial of the human condition, denial that life is and always will be unfair. They're in denial because they are proud. They inherently believe they are above regular human standards and they deserve a life without stress, without strife, and without competition. They don't want to earn anything in life and, by extension, they want nothing in life to be earned. They've lived in a world where everyone told them they're perfect just being who they are, that they just need to believe in themselves. Self-esteem was dispensed to children just as readily as their curriculum. Moreover, they have the luxury. They've assumed the necessities of life are "rights" and that it's the taxpayers' job to pay for those necessities on their behalf.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Pride.

Life is full of adversity and some people want a turnkey solution that will enable us to live without having to suffer for it. If they've been offered a turnkey solution by their government, they're going to take it.

It's a denial of reality, denial of the human condition, denial that life is and always will be unfair. They're in denial because they are proud. They inherently believe they are above regular human standards and they deserve a life without stress, without strife, and without competition. They don't want to earn anything in life and, by extension, they want nothing in life to be earned. They've lived in a world where everyone told them they're perfect just being who they are, that they just need to believe in themselves. Self-esteem was dispensed to children just as readily as their curriculum. Moreover, they have the luxury. They've assumed the necessities of life are "rights" and that it's the taxpayers' job to pay for those necessities on their behalf.

You said what I did but with less text, thanks man.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Pride.

Life is full of adversity and some people want a turnkey solution that will enable them to live their lives without having to suffer for it. If they've been offered a turnkey solution by their government, they're going to take it.

It's a denial of reality, denial of the human condition, denial that life is and always will be unfair. They're in denial because they are proud. They inherently believe they are above regular human standards and they deserve a life without stress, without strife, and without competition. They don't want to earn anything in life and, by extension, they want nothing in life to be earned. They've lived in a world where everyone told them they're perfect just being who they are, that they just need to believe in themselves. Self-esteem was dispensed to children just as readily as their curriculum. Moreover, they have the luxury. They've assumed the necessities of life are "rights" and that it's the taxpayers' job to pay for those necessities on their behalf.

Old school communists viewed individuals something like ants in an ant colony. The strength and health of the colony as a whole was important. But no individual ant really mattered all that much. They all exist to contribute to the colony, their own personal ambition and identity was secondary to fitting in and doing what is good for society as a whole. Troon socialism feels like somewhat the opposite of that. Everything is about their identity, their superiority. The rest of society needs to change to accommodate them rather than having them change to fit into society. It's communism filtered through American individualism. There's a reason there wasn't a troonery epidemic in the Soviet Union.