Young people are flocking to astrology - Retards, retards everywhere

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Kaelen Larocque was born on Jan. 1, 1996. To her, it’s far more than merely her date of birth.
It’s the date that determines parts of her personality, her passions, her romantic interests and, to some degree, her life decisions.
Like others who ascribe to astrology, she is a firm believer that celestial objects have a direct effect on human life. Learning about astrology, Larocque explained, has enhanced her self-awareness and deepened her bonds with others. She knows who she is cosmically compatible with — and, conversely, with whom she is not.

“I’ll never date a Pisces again,” she half-jokingly declared.
Astrology is a useful introspective tool “for people who want to delve deeper into themselves,” said Larocque, 27, a Boston-based middle school teacher and yoga instructor. “The best thing we can do as people is to learn about ourselves and try to improve.”


Larocque is not alone in turning to astrology as a means of self-improvement, introspection and personal growth. The astrology field is booming — a trend that has been driven by younger generations, experts say, and is evidenced by the countless websites and platforms that cater to the astrologically inclined. These include Co–Star personalized astrology — which is ranked among the top 40 lifestyle apps in the country — along with zodiac-centric dating apps, dozens of astrology podcasts, best-selling books and myriad astrology meme accounts on social media. “Mercury in retrograde” has become a household phrase.
According to Allied Market Research, the global astrology industry was valued at $12.8 billion in 2021, up considerably from $2.2 billion in 2018. By 2031, it’s expected to rise to $22.8 billion.


Astrologers say the field has surged in popularity for several reasons, the most salient of which is better accessibility through technology. Next is the pandemic, and the perilous mental health crisis it propelled. Research has shown that people are more likely to be drawn to divinatory practices in times of tumult and uncertainty.

“Definitely over the past decade there’s been a rising interest, but even more so since the pandemic,” said Tracey L. Rogers, a Philadelphia-based astrologer and life coach. “There were a lot of people reaching out and wanting some guidance on how to navigate those times.”
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Not everyone views astrology’s rising prominence as a positive development. Although market research firm YouGov found that a quarter of Americans claim to believe in it, there is no scientific evidence that supports astrology. Some experts say that while finding joy and fulfillment in reading astrology materials is one thing, basing major life decisions entirely on disproven science is risky.


For Larocque, incorporating astrology into her life isn’t necessarily about buying into every word she reads in her horoscope. She doesn’t view astrology as one-size-fits-all, but rather an adaptable ideology. “You pick and choose what resonates with you, and what doesn’t,” she said.
Larocque, a Capricorn, became astrologically curious seven years ago in the wake of a bad breakup with — unsurprisingly — a Pisces. Now, it would take a lot of convincing for her to get involved with a potential partner of that sun sign.
Rogers noted, as Larocque did, that many people tap into astrology to help them handle hardship or cope with change.
“Being armed with this information, you can empower yourself and make the most of things,” Rogers said.

The scientific community’s stance​

Astrology has been practiced since the 3rd millennium B.C. and has undergone waves of popularity over centuries in different parts of the world. Since the early 1700s, astrology — which was once tied to astronomy, the study of celestial objects — has been widely rejected by the scientific community.
“There was a parting of the ways between astrology and astronomy,” said Sten Odenwald, an astronomer and the director of STEM resource development at NASA. “Astrology doesn’t statistically work. The premise is wrong; the physics are wrong.”


Astrology purports that everyone has a sun sign, a moon sign and a rising sign — commonly called the “Big 3” — each of which says something different about a person. The sun sign embodies the essence of an individual’s personality, the moon sign signifies their emotional demeanor, and the rising sign represents how an individual is perceived by others. Astrologers read a person’s unique birth chart and forecast how celestial shifts might impact their everyday life.
While there are some scientific studies that show a correlation between the season of birth and personality, astrological traditions are entirely unsubstantiated.
“It’s one thing to know the positions of the planets with respect to the stars, but the big problem is interpreting what that means in terms of human behavior,” Odenwald said. “There’s no statistical link between those two.”
Yet more Americans know their zodiac sign than their blood type, and likewise, as many as 70 million Americans check their horoscopes daily.
“Our brains are constantly looking for patterns and ways of anticipating the future,” Odenwald said. “Humans grab onto these things.”
Still, “it pains me as a scientist to see the rise in irrational thinking,” Odenwald added, explaining that practicing astrology comes with “all kinds of risks,” including that humans can become too dependent on it for important decision-making.


Lauren Kassell — a professor of history of science and medicine at the European University Institute and the University of Cambridge — agreed that developing an overdependence on astrology is dangerous, although “if people are using astrology as a tool to make sense of their lives, good for them,” she said, with the caveat that they aren’t being exploited in the process.
Kassell has studied astrology’s prevalence throughout history, noting that the field declined amid the Scientific Revolution during the 16th and 17th centuries, when an emphasis on rationalism took hold.
“Some of the explanations for why astrology is on the rise now are deeply tied to the skepticism about science and individualistic thinking,” Kassell pointed out.
The surging interest has also spawned many methods through which to practice astrology, and those who ascribe to it exist on a spectrum of sorts, Kassell said, drawing on many different forms of astrological belief.
“We need to take people who use astrology seriously, in order to understand how people live in the world, either in the past or in the present,” Kassell said.
 
> A world religion that survived for 2000 years and responsible for almost all technology in the last centuries.
That's just crazy people.
> Arbitrary guesses based on what time you were born.
SO WISE AND DEEP
Don't forget that there's plenty of people who were told the notion that because of the "DARK AGES" the progress of technology was halted entirely. "If it weren't for those DAMN Christcucks we'd have flying cars now!"
It's a pretty fascinating phenomenon because my high school history book had a whole segment about how Middle Ages Christianity and Islam pretty much set up all our science. But no many truly think technology went from ancient Greeks, halted and then was brought back with the Renaissance.
 
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-Yes I want an astronomy gf.
-Gets happy to sperg about neutron stars.
-The astrology gf at home.
 
My high school psychology teacher black-pilled almost the entire class on this BS in one fell swoop with the old "personality test" trick. Basically, he gave everyone a list of questions, then a few days later everyone got their personalized results, along with a request to rate them for accuracy. He asked everyone not to share the results until the ratings were compiled. If I recall, most of the class gave an 8 or 9 out of 10, with a few 1's who'd obviously figured it out. Then he asked someone who gave a 10/10 to come up and read their "personalized" results to the class...
 
Enough of this holding up every single young person as "forward-thinking" and "wise beyond their years". Zoomers and millenials are no less mongoloid than Xers or boomers.
Millennials were supposed to be the best generation thanks to access to the Internet and being digital natives. We could multitask and adapt and create and publish. Now look at us, we're a huge mess. Zoomers may have it worse since the current world is all they've known.
 
Why don't these retards get into the cool shit like cosmology or quantum theory? That's infinitely more interesting and there's an avenue for that hippy dippy shit that there's potential truth to, like the holographic principle.
 
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My high school psychology teacher black-pilled almost the entire class on this BS in one fell swoop with the old "personality test" trick. Basically, he gave everyone a list of questions, then a few days later everyone got their personalized results, along with a request to rate them for accuracy. He asked everyone not to share the results until the ratings were compiled. If I recall, most of the class gave an 8 or 9 out of 10, with a few 1's who'd obviously figured it out. Then he asked someone who gave a 10/10 to come up and read their "personalized" results to the class...
That used to be a psychology class staple, clear up through college. Hopefully, it still is. Good stuff.

I realized it was bullshit at a pretty young age when I noticed that all the "Hardworking, dependable" Capricorns I knew were unreliable, lazy fucks. And all the "Airhead, dreamer" Pisces I knew turned out to be down-to-earth engineers and mechanics with no time for nonsense or daydreaming.
 
Jung had a lot of interesting things to say about Astrology. If you look at it as a tool for interacting with universal symbols and archetypes and connecting us with the shared consciousness then that's a masculine application of it, but I do tend to glaze over the eyes of "uwu I'm such a Libra" girls when I start using words like egregore. Fuck lady, you're the one who brought it up, keep up with the conversation!

Dowsing Bro is 100% right, if women want to put mysticism to the forefront, it's an opportunity for men to take that as a cue that using it for self-improvement is valid, and we need to take any advantage we have now that Western society's shut us out. Go take an energy healing class, it'll be just you and eight women and you'll talk your KF shit that is a perspective they've never heard before. They agree with more of what we say on here than you'd think, you just need the opportunity to bring it up.
 
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I do remember an article back in like 2016 or 2017 saying basically that--the zodiac is off by some amount of time to the point that yours could be wrong, I dont know if they said it had changed over time or was just always wrong.
Basically, because Earth's a bit wobbly, the relative position of the constellations at certain points of the year has changed over the past couple millenia, which split things into two: tropical astrology, which doesn't account for this and remains fixed, and sidereal, which has the dates (slowly) change to match things. That's my limited understanding anyway. I think most discussion, at least in the west, uses tropical.
Jung had a lot of interesting things to say about Astrology. If you look at it as a tool for interacting with universal symbols and archetypes and connecting us with the shared consciousness then that's a masculine application of it, but I do tend to glaze over the eyes of "uwu I'm such a Libra" girls when I start using words like egregore. Fuck lady, you're the one who brought it up, keep up with the conversation!
That's sort of how I look at it, same with stuff like Tarot cards and fortunes and all that. You're not gonna get a deep truth from the newspaper hororscope blurb or a paper scrip, but examining how you and others interpret it can give some insights. Kind of like flipping a coin when you need to make a choice, you'll know which one you really want after you toss it up, no matter how it lands. It's when you start using it for all your big decisions that it starts becoming more than a fun little diversion.
 
I do remember an article back in like 2016 or 2017 saying basically that--the zodiac is off by some amount of time to the point that yours could be wrong, I dont know if they said it had changed over time or was just always wrong
They’ve shifted so much over the last 2000 years that there are 13 constellations along the zodiac now. I’ve brought this up to astrology nerds and it makes them strangely uncomfortable. One friend, who is a guy, even, downright rejected the updated zodiacal periods. It’s very interesting to see the emotional drama play out on a person’s face as their preconceived notions of themselves is completely shattered because some stars drifted since Babylonian times.
 
Why don't these retards get into the cool shit like cosmology or quantum theory? That's infinitely more interesting and there's an avenue for that hippy dippy shit that there's potential truth to, like the holographic principle.
But it's not about cool shit or even hippy dippy shit, really. It's about vapid narcissistic navel-gazing.
 
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