Retard uprising in the "Mad at the Internet" thread over being told women should be considered in far-right politics

[Oilspill Battery]

I'm the realistic and reasonable person.

Relationships and kids are what generates the most possible investment in the outcome of a society. 30% of society (specifically young people which is an even bigger issue) being sexless IS a problem that's gonna hit like a bomb..

Looking at 30% of people who are checked out from a collapsing society that absolutely needs them and going "lmao incels your problem tf do i care, fix yourselves" is quite possibly the furthest you can go from realistic or reasonable.

Alternative!: incels stop calling themselves incels, stop obsessing over minutia, and start just living and being productive and positive people.

Genuine question, why is telling "men" to get their shit toogether and fix both themselves and society realistic and reasonable, but asking the same of women instead is unrealistic and unreasonable?

Furthermore, why is this automatically the fault of men and when society has been at the whim of feminism for the past 20+ years?

The problem is that you still seem to treat the incel phenomenon as a bunch of isolated fringe goofballs when upwards of a third of young men are sexless. How high does the number need to be before you start actually viewing this as a societla issue instead of a personal one?

 

[God of Nothing]

How high does the number need to be before you start actually viewing this as a societla issue instead of a personal one?

the answer to this is obviously when it starts to affect them

 

[AgendaPoster]

Looking at 30% of people who are checked out from a collapsing society that absolutely needs them and going "lmao incels your problem tf do i care, fix yourselves" is quite possibly the furthest you can go from realistic or reasonable.

You are not needed and neither am I, with 9 years of med univ and even more of practice, I will likely be easily replaceable by a simple AI soon.
You did own fart smelling for so long that you became deceived that humans have inherent value or something, instead of being cogs that can be replaced.
You also show me ONE instance of a government fixing romantic problems for males. I will be waiting.
You HAVE to fix it yourself. Stop being so autistic and refusing to read between the lines. Read some dumb history and mythology and learn what young males always did when horny. Like raiding the nearby greener pastures for loot. Like holocausting every fucking male and cattle under the sun, but sparing females. Wonder why, what a HUUUUGE MYSTERY. Like starting the largest war in antiquity cause you were terminally horny for some bimbo in Greece or w/e
Nobody will come to rescue your filthy ass. You have no rights. Governments fear and despise you. Women, same.
You'll figure it out, cause I am done, far too busy enjoying my own life, which includes, occasionally and unexceptionally, sex.

 

[Wood]

Read some dumb history and mythology and learn what young males always did when horny

Get a gun, we're raiding the Balkans.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Get a gun, we're raiding the Balkans.

I'll be defending. My life is cozy. Gonna mark my rifle with how many desperate virgins I've sent back to Allah

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Then society will collapse, unless you think you can operate it with 30% of the population checked out.

Society will collapse if we keep focusing on quantity of people and completely ignore quality of them.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

You are not needed and neither am I, with 9 years of med univ and even more of practice, I will likely be easily replaceable by a simple AI soon.

Oh don't feed into their cynicism, that's a silly statement. What does it even mean to be needed in a life which never had any purpose?

Being needed is about being important to someone or something that matters to you, and there's a lot of people today who clearly need someone, so yes we're needed. No man is useless who lessens another's burden, and all that.

The problem is that you still seem to treat the incel phenomenon as a bunch of isolated fringe goofballs when upwards of a third of young men are sexless.

Spoiler: A small list of reasons why incels are goofballs

- It seems like what the majority of self-described incels online want is for everyone else to have a little cry and tell them how precious and brave they are.
Would it make it better if everyone online patted you on the back and commiserated? Does the media need to kiss your feet like with the alphabets, would that improve the situation? Because if so that's really gay.

- There's no way for anyone to address the specific, isolated fact that anyone isn't getting laid. It's not like there's some program the government can enact.
The whole thing is clearly a symptom of broader social issues. Maybe you could just leave out the bit about your dick and worry about something more widely pertinent which would help form couples as a consequence, like improving western labor culture and encouraging community involvement.

- There's no possible way dudes claiming that if only they got it in that they'd be satisfied are accurately assessing their own grievances. Even if society moved itself to prioritize helping self-identified incels have sex, it would be a waste because most of them would find something new to complain about.
Even when these people find a woman who's naive enough to date them they're consistently still miserable, self-victimizing, and usually abusive towards their partner anyways.

It's like every one of these fucking groups obsessed with how hard they have it, you should pour resources and concern down a bottomless pit while they keep being miserable and demanding more. You're only decreasing net happiness by pandering to them.

It's dumb, it's a clownish concept, and it's a clownish argument to even have. Everyone's always very unpleasant on both sides and I don't think being cruel is going to help anything, but at the same time it's tough to be sympathetic to a line as chimp-like as "I'm not having sex, and I want sex".

How high does the number need to be before you start actually viewing this as a societla issue instead of a personal one?

I'm confused as to what benefit you're suggesting that alleviating the incel problem will have that makes it warrant that treatment. What, some angry antisocial dude who sits in their bedroom all day playing videogames and cranking it to hentai, they're going to suddenly become a well adjusted citizen who's going to raise a happy, well adjusted family if they can get their dick wet? No, they're going to be a fucking deadbeat and their kids will eventually wind up with a single mother.

Once again fucking retarded, and why there's no reason to take these people seriously. Their heads are clearly too mixed up and they're too lacking in self awareness to even know what's wrong or why they feel like shit.

 

[Wood]

- There's no way for anyone to address the specific, isolated fact that anyone isn't getting laid. It's not like there's some program the government can enact.
The whole thing is clearly a symptom of broader social issues. Maybe you could just leave out the bit about your dick and worry about something more widely pertinent which would help form couples as a consequence, like improving western labor culture and encouraging community involvement.

And that, nigger, is where you are wrong.
- reduce housing prices - by lowering demand - less immigration - getting more supply - more permits, easier new development, less taxes, etc.
- stop taking 60%+ of men's income in taxes, reduce inflation
- stop wasting tax money on shitlib NGOs, stop pouring money into fiscal black holes like niggers, shitskins, single mothers, faggots and niggers.
- build infrastructure, so that jobs exist outside of cities, so a man doesn't have to pay through his ears to live in a tiny shitbox in a city. men should be able to afford housing in which to raise a family.
- literally just stop shitlib politics altogether.
- hang all communists and judeobolsheviks.

 

[Lidl Drip]

30% of society (specifically young people which is an even bigger issue) being sexless IS a problem that's gonna hit like a bomb..

That study you keep quoting specifically asked about having had sex IN THE LAST YEAR. A man who has not sex for a year is not an incel. The number of men who have never had sex and have no prospect of ever having sex is much much much smaller than that.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

When 2/3rds of men under 30 are single, maybe it is time for "no one" to start practicing some introspection instead of pointing at said men and telling them to stop being crybabies. 1 man being upset at society is his problem, several tens of millions of men being upset at society is society's problem.

Because that point you're rapidly headed for collapse. And I don't know who enjoys suffering through a collapse, but I'd also wager its also no one. What I do know, is that telling them to stop being incels isn't gonna prevent said collapse.

Unfortunately it appears that Boomer-tier advice is about all that Western governments are willing to do. A few places in Europe have tried a mix of medals, bribes and tax breaks. They haven't worked too well, which is not shocking to anyone with more IQ than a gerbil.

Japan is fortunate enough to not share a border with SpicLand but they're doing even worse at native birthrates. We could live to see the day when a Chinese invasion goes unanswered because the JSDAF is 'manned' by too few warm bodies, most of whom are well past 20.

So it seems that the problem is neither uniquely a white Westerner one, nor are governments willing to address the difficult task of fixing the root problems.

 

[God of Nothing]

Once again fucking retarded, and why there's no reason to take these people seriously. Their heads are clearly too mixed up and they're too lacking in self awareness to even know what's wrong or why they feel like shit.

you keep making the same mistake as so many others of thinking they mean the stereotypical incel rather than the type of person to be called incel
incel itself is just the fancy new word for virgin
as i posted earlier, a third of the population is unemployed
are they all likely to be the stereotypical example?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

lol, cry about it

Why would I? I'm not one of your cats stuck with you.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

retard women, retard men

based women, based men

Learn the difference, there are pretty good chicks out there, just not in numbers people tend to think there are. There are also "incels" who are just extremely demoralized and nihilistic men, not necessarily fucking losers.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Japan is fortunate enough to not share a border with SpicLand but they're doing even worse at native birthrates.

If I remember correctly japan's birthrate is more or less on par with europe and higher than some european countries, korea is the one that actually holds the record for lowest birthrates.

Yep just looked it up. Japan is at is at 1.4. Greece, same as greece, poland and prtogual, spain and itally are actually even lower at 1.25, and most other european countries also hover around that level, hungary, croatia, servia, slovakia, at 1.5, etc.

Everytime you hear "japan needs immigration" its a huge psyop. Japan is doing better than several european countries.

That study you keep quoting specifically asked about having had sex IN THE LAST YEAR. A man who has not sex for a year is not an incel. The number of men who have never had sex and have no prospect of ever having sex is much much much smaller than that.

Unless you're impression that all those men will instantly get laid the instant the clock strikes 12:00 of 2024, then how does putting emphasis of "in the last year" help your point? "In the last year" is there to emphasise a growing trend, not an outlier. Its not "wow, last year this really unusual thing happened" its "in the last year this growing trend continued to grow".

Furthermore, Incel literally means involutnary celibate, any man that can't get sex and isn't willingly celibate is an incel.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Unless you're impression that all those men will instantly get laid the instant the clock strikes 12:00 of 2024, then how does putting emphasis of "in the last year" help your point? "In the last year" is there to emphasise a growing trend, not an outlier. Its not "wow, last year this really unusual thing happened" its "in the last year this growing trend continued to grow".

Furthermore, Incel literally means involutnary celibate, any man that can't get sex and isn't willingly celibate is an incel.

So by your logic of "whenever a man wants sex and can't have it" all men who go a day without sex are Incels? If a guy in a relationship is getting turned down by his girlfriend because she's not in the mood is he an Incel? What amount of time does a guy have to go without sex to make him an Incel? A month? A week? An hour? 5 minutes? Let's be real here. An Incel is a man who has no prospect of having sex at all. Most of those 30% of men who haven't had sex in a year will eventually have sex. Going a year without sex is no big deal.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

So by your logic of "whenever a man wants sex and can't have it" all men who go a day without sex are Incels?

By "my logic" you mean the literal meaning of the word being "involuntary celibate"?

Most of those 30% of men who haven't had sex in a year will eventually have sex.

So why is the number of men not having sex each year increasing?

 

[Lidl Drip]

By "my logic" you mean the literal meaning of the word being "involuntary celibate"?

If a man goes a day without sex despite wanting it he is an Incel? Is that really the definition of the word? Lmfao. I see you completely avoided answering my questions.

So why is the number of men not having sex each year increasing?

Probably because people in general are having less sex? If you ask me a lot of it has to do with excess porn consumption since even people who are in relationships are having less sex and men are not as motivated to go out and pursue women anymore because they can just get their needs met by OnlyFans whores. But you are claiming that 30% of men are incels who never have sex and and that society will collapse because of it and that's just not true.

 

[AgendaPoster]

they can just get their needs met by OnlyFans whores

That's a myth btw masturbation is just a temporary, rather humiliating pressure valve, only thing that's cool and satisfies needs is sex. The orgasm is but a tiny part of things.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

If a man goes a day without sex despite wanting it he is an Incel? Is that really the definition of the word? Lmfao. I see you completely avoided answering my questions.

Yeah sure you can call him an incel if you want but at that point its picking nits, you don't really have to draw a line of how many specific seconds need to pass between wanting sex and getting.

He has easy access to sex in general, while all those men don't.

Probably because people in general are having less sex? If you ask me a lot of it has to do with excess porn consumption since even people who are in relationships are having less sex and men are not as motivated to go out and pursue women anymore because they can just get their needs met by OnlyFans whores.

You misunderstood the question. You said "30% of those will eventually have sex", as if to imply the 30% is an outlier instead of a growing problem. But now you do admit that its not an outlier and it is in fact a growing problem, so what is the issue?

Also, its not "people in general" while sex in general is down, its way worse among young men than among young women.

But you are claiming that 30% of men are incels who never have sex and and that society will collapse because of it and that's just not true.

Its not just "sex", sex is an indicator of a far greater issue being total lack of investment, participation and care toward society.

30% of men being sexless means they don't have relationships or kids, meaning that not only are they completely uninvested in society (having a family is what makes one to be invested), but in fact they tend to be somewhat spiteful toward it and don't feel intrested in meaningfuly contributing.

This combined with unemployment and you have a bunch of people living on the periphery. I don't see how you think this COULDN'T cause problems.

 

[Lidl Drip]

That's a myth btw masturbation is just a temporary, rather humiliating pressure valve, only thing that's cool and satisfy needs is sex. The orgasm is but a tiny part of things.

Maybe for select few higher EQ men this is true, but most retard beta male apes it is sufficient to just watch other men have sex as they sit and masturbate. The kind of cucked man who watches porn knows his place in the world is to watch quietly from the corner.

30% of men being sexless means

You still continue to pretend as if a man not having sex for a year is the same as never having sex and never having a family or kids. At this point I realize you are just a retarded doomer who can't go off his script and debating you is pointless.