Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

I can attest to this through some personal history. Way back in colonial times part of my family was given a shit ton of land to farm on. Stumbled across a few articles doing family research and these land plots have been completely turned into housing and strip malls now. It's terrifying how much of every smalltown America was lost in those couple decades.
I once drove through a suburban region which had a Civil War battlefield. Since I was curious, I looked up the actual map of the battlefield and overlaid it onto the modern roads. The modern park which has the battlefield was a tiny corner of the actual battlefield. Places where people fought and died are now covered in strip malls and fast food now. It's really incredible to see.
 
The Wikipedia article on the Sound of Freedom. The section seemed to appear reasonable but only due to enough backlash against gaslighting.
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However the category of the movie page.
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Lastly. Tim Ballard's Wikipedia Page (Whom this film is about) is full blown gaslighting.
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Fundraising to stop human trafficking (a horrendous criminal activity) is now "illegal" and "far-right extremism". Anyone who makes such a ridiculous statement like this should be regarded as psychopaths never to be trusted by anyone (and be locked up).

Defamation and Psychological Warfare are the reasons why I hate Wikipedia so much. It's beyond cruel at this point.
I'm somewhat familiar with this page only because two spergs (one of them literally identifying as such) brought it to a community help page ( Archive ).
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They later spilled this shit across multiple pages, with 🧩Saikyoryu lashing out at more experienced editors.
They've since been blocked for sockpuppetry, with the autistic one getting her talk page access revoked. Reactions on the respective user talk pages:
 
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I once drove through a suburban region which had a Civil War battlefield. Since I was curious, I looked up the actual map of the battlefield and overlaid it onto the modern roads. The modern park which has the battlefield was a tiny corner of the actual battlefield. Places where people fought and died are now covered in strip malls and fast food now. It's really incredible to see.
This is slowly happening to Gettysburg as well. Used to go there a lot with dad and he'd always talk about how a lot of the surrounding area was rural countryside and only in the past 20 years or so has it been really built up with those fucking tumorous strip malls and shit.
 
Indeed he is. I am not really familiar with the guy and do not take Wikipedia seriously to be portraing him honestly but seems to be that this is the justification:

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One case of a kid leaving home once = CULT LEADER CONFIRMED DANGER TO SOCIETY MAKE SURE YOU CHILDREN ARE NOT WATCHING HIS CONTENT GUYS !!!1!
 
Anyone else notice on the "List of cult leaders" page Stefan Molyneux is on there? lol

Louis Farrakhan, R. Kelly, Lyndon LaRouche...

Blows my mind that listing a guy who clearly isn't a cult leader as one isn't libelous.
In 2009, Tu Thanh Ha wrote that Molyneux was called the leader of a "therapy cult" after Tom Bell, a Freedomain Radio community member, severed contact with his family.[27]
Some reporter said that somebody said he was a cult leader, well that's airtight now isn't
 
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Some reporter said that somebody said he was a cult leader, well that's airtight now isn't
But can't journalists be sued for saying false libelous things too? How does someone even objectively prove is someone is a cult leader or not? Who decides this?
 
But can't journalists be sued for saying false libelous things too? How does someone even objectively prove is someone is a cult leader or not? Who decides this?
The simple answer is that there is nothing a public figure can do to stand up to this shit. NYT v. Sullivan basically said that the media can smear people as aggressively as they want without reproach, since the "actual malice" rule means that plaintiffs are basically unable to do anything unless their lives completely and utterly ruined. Hopefully SCOTUS is able to justify taking the case on again and overturn it (Thomas and Gorsuch have both opposition to the ruling and want to revise it), but I'm not holding my breath.
 
NYT v. Sullivan basically said that the media can smear people as aggressively as they want without reproach, since the "actual malice" rule means that plaintiffs are basically unable to do anything unless their lives completely and utterly ruined. Hopefully
Not so. Actual Malice demands proof that the person defaming you knew they were lying. Damage is immaterial. Ultimately, I agree with you. My thoughts on this:
In 1964 SCOTUS essentially created a federal law protecting journalists from punishment, and in 1968 they clarified that this protection granted the Journalists more protection and securities the worse job they did in their reporting. Quite simply, they put it as them creating a “premium on ignorance, [and] encourag[ing] the irresponsible publisher not to inquire”.

Journalism never recovered after this, for the Supreme Court made it the Supreme Law of the land that if Journalist was to seek any protection for their reporting, their reporting must not be worth enough to wipe your ass
 
Not so. Actual Malice demands proof that the person defaming you knew they were lying. Damage is immaterial. Ultimately, I agree with you. My thoughts on this:
Or with "reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.” It's a subjective standard, but reckless disregard can be inferred from conduct, such as, for instance, deviating from a fact-checking policy normally engaged in.

It's a high bar, and it should be, but not always insurmountable.
 
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Anyone else notice on the "List of cult leaders" page Stefan Molyneux is on there? lol

Wikipedia is really weird and inconsistent about anything to do with cults in general. For example, it classifies QAnon as a cult but not something like, say, Raelianism, which it instead places under the much more benign-sounding category of "New Religious Movement". So according to Wikipedia, Stefan Molyneux is a cult leader but this fucking guy isn't.

In fact if you browse through Category:cults and Category:New Religious Movements you quickly notice a pattern that articles about more "right-wing" groups (fundamentalist Christian sects, for example) get put in the first category while groups with more a progressive or apolitical angle (like UFO-believing Kool-Aid drinkers) get placed in the latter, even if they're more harmful and more accurately fit the definition of a cult.
 
Wikipedia is really weird and inconsistent about anything to do with cults in general. For example, it classifies QAnon as a cult but not something like, say, Raelianism, which it instead places under the much more benign-sounding category of "New Religious Movement".
There's a whole group of corrupt cult apologist "scholars" who are subsidized by cults to spread that whitewashing term.

While it's a bit off-topic for here, there's an article by Stephen A. Kent about this: https://archive.ph/wip/TRNuh

You'll probably recognize some of the propagandists and liars Wikipedia uses as sources in there.
 
you quickly notice a pattern that articles about more "right-wing" groups (fundamentalist Christian sects, for example) get put in the first category while groups with more a progressive or apolitical angle (like UFO-believing Kool-Aid drinkers) get placed in the latter

wow what a shock!
 
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