Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[Gollum Grindset]

There's nothing I hate more than somebody who can't take a joke, and troons are the purest embodiment of that in society today.

 

[Kirby]

whether it be smoking or getting a sex change operation i really dont care what other people do with their body as long as they keep it to themselves and stop trying to force it onto other people and i wish troons felt the same way.

how much public outrage is due to people being angry that someone trooned out? no sane person with an actual life cares. people care that they are preying on the insecurity and confusion of vulnerable children to convince them to go through with something that makes 41% of them try to kill themselves.

and then once one actually dies they never killed themself because they were depressed, its always just an ambiguous statement about how society let them down. when a troon is depressed and wants to die we need to change society, and censor free speech. when anyone else is depressed and wants to die a doctor writes them a prescription for prozac.

 

[Punished Puck]

the biggest problem is that they want to fuck and groom kids

 

[Jacques1194]

It's hilarious that they try to destroy binary sex when it's just a fact of most lifeforms on Earth

Fucking CORN is male and female. If you want to grow a crop of corn, you need daddy corn to pollinate mommy corn. Even hermaphroditic things like apple trees need male pollen to enter female flowers, meaning every APPLE has a mommy and daddy apple tree, so sex obviously isn't something you can change with hormones or mutilation!

And these are the same people who will call you "obsessed with genitals" if you point out practically all mammals have males with penises and females with vaginas. They'll tell you all about how "actually, the clitoris and ovaries start out as the same cells that make a penis and testicles, so who's to say what the difference is? Is there like, some exact line between a clitoris and penis? Where do you draw that line, and what about people right on the line, huh, huh?"

Meanwhile many many forms of life have males and females without penises or vaginas, but they're just gonna ignore all that.

Your comment reminds me of this one post i saw on tumblr.

 

[Lil Yappy]

I wasn’t and now I’ve been complemented on how confident I am in my masculinity. It’s frighting to think that all it takes is a little mix on some normal life shit and a troon to completely ruin a human before they can even understand or grasp any concepts of life.

It’s utterly evil what is happening to normal people going through rough times. I specify children and the youth. And knowing how bad online grooming is now it scares me to think how deep it all goes.

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I guess another thing about troons is just that I don't see how all of society got conned into thinking stuff like what's in the image you shared is not only normal but necessary somehow. Like anyone who thinks it's horrifying to have your penis flayed and shoved up inside you or to have tits cut off and huge scars across the chest is just being unreasonable and weird. Or maybe even just cruel and evil. Go on reddit and see basically any discussion on this topic and the people there will be livid over how evil people are preventing "gender affirming care" and how the point of opposing this is to be cruel and turn the world into the Handmaid's Tale. Like the only reason to oppose this is because you are some low IQ religious nut.

I'm not religious at all but I think it is INSANE how this shit has been normalized.

 

[Spiro T. Agnew]

I don't hate troons so much as I pity them.
It's clear to me that the vast majority of them are people who are severely mentally ill congregating in hugboxes with other people who are severely mentally ill where they all circlejerk about how one day they'll finally get their "life saving" treatment. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm paraphrasing another reply here, but it's like a group of anorexics got together and convinced themselves that the right treatment is a strict regiment of diet pills and laxatives.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I recall thinking this the instant that I saw Troons on social media claiming JK Rowling was “killing” people.

The troons are absolutely seething and dilating that Harry Potter's getting a new show after that!

They desperately want to make "transphobia" as stigmatized and career ruining as racism, but J.K. Rowling is living proof they haven't. If she said the N word, full stop there would be no more Harry Potter anything forever, but she only insulted trannies, so it's OK.

They tried to ruin whatever that Harry Potter video game was called, only for it to be game of the year and break multiple records. It's my firm belief that if trannies succeeded in tanking that game there would be no new Harry Potter show, but the performance of that game showed studios, "Wow, it doesn't matter at all if you piss off trannies, might as well greenlight 10 seasons of a Harry Potter remake!"

Basically, J.K. Rowling showed the world you can shout from the hilltops "Fuck you, troons!" and not only survive, but make more money, likely enabling a whole trend of "Fuck you, troons, we don't care about your feelings" entertainment.

If they could just get her Derek Chauvined, they'd have it made, but they can't. She's a constant reminder they have no power in the real world

 

[TruffleSpark]

Remember 15 pages ago when I said that I felt sorry for "truscums" i.e people with gender dysphoria who actually try to assimilate to their chosen gender? Yeah, I changed my mind, they can get fucked too. All they really are is a relic of a redundant marketing strategy for troonism. Back then troon ideology pretended to have a basis in biology so they had to make a big deal about it being a treatment for actual symptoms. I'm firmly convinced that troonism itself created those symptoms via social contagion. So merely by existing even "good" troons encourage others to troon out and we get to the dumb society of today via positive feedback loop.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Remember 15 pages ago when I said that I felt sorry for "truscums" i.e people with gender dysphoria who actually try to assimilate to their chosen gender? Yeah, I changed my mind, they can get fucked too. All they really are is a relic of a redundant marketing strategy for troonism. Back then troon ideology pretended to have a basis in biology so they had to make a big deal about it being a treatment for actual symptoms. I'm firmly convinced that troonism itself created those symptoms via social contagion. So merely by existing even "good" troons encourage others to troon out and we get to the dumb society of today via positive feedback loop.

You are starting to get why no matter how you approach this it just ends in disaster. There is no positive start or finish. Either you die a hero or end up becoming a troon.

 

[Vicinaux]

It's not my main issue with them but it's a common enough occurence among them that it becomes annoying, and it's their victim mentality. They're always defeated. They always need other people's validation and support, they have to force themselves everywhere, and I haven't ever seen that mentality (on a large scale) in ANY other oppressed group* that fights for its rights. Their defeatism constantly seeps through the phrases they employ, the way they talk in general, the way they see the world (somehow everything is about them or against them) and they paint themselves as perfect little victims that unfairly bear the brunt of the world's bigotry to the point they're referring to their marginalization as a genocide.
I only have vague examples in mind since it's very subtle but it's something I picked up after reading their tweets, blog posts, and articles.

*(trans people can transition out of their 'oppression.' actual women, racial minorities, disabled or LGB people can't)

 

[Jacques1194]

Remember 15 pages ago when I said that I felt sorry for "truscums" i.e people with gender dysphoria who actually try to assimilate to their chosen gender? Yeah, I changed my mind, they can get fucked too. All they really are is a relic of a redundant marketing strategy for troonism. Back then troon ideology pretended to have a basis in biology so they had to make a big deal about it being a treatment for actual symptoms. I'm firmly convinced that troonism itself created those symptoms via social contagion. So merely by existing even "good" troons encourage others to troon out and we get to the dumb society of today via positive feedback loop.

This is why i have no sympathy for troons like Blaire white.Yeah, he may interview detrans people and talk about the problems with affirming a child's gender identity, but Blaire is hypocritical.He's a believer of the sunk-cost fallacy by insisting on the True Trans narrative despite the cognitive dissonance with it.There was a video where he suggests to not feed obese people's delusions that they're healthy while expecting people to feed his delusion of being a woman.Blaire my guy, what's the difference?

 

[Procrastinhater]

This is why i have no sympathy for troons like Blaire white.Yeah, he may interview detrans people and talk about the problems with affirming a child's gender identity, but Blaire is hypocritical. He's a believer of the sunk-cost fallacy by insisting on the True Trans narrative despite the cognitive dissonance with it.There was a video where he suggests to not feed obese people's delusions that they're healthy while expecting people to feed his delusion of being a woman.Blaire my guy, what's the difference?

The thing I find irritating about Blaire is something my wife pointed out - his idea of what a woman is so obviously from a male perspective, and seems to be a mixture of Valley Girl and Stripper, he's a pornified parody of a female, from the way he dresses, to the Valley Girl speak (which I guess he lived in LA for a long time, so in his case its a regional thing he picked up rather than pure affectation) to the constant hair flips and stuff, its all just so forced that and I think a big part of the reason he spends so much time showing the bizarre and crazy troons is he's trying to show how he's so different from them, and while he is, he's also not, its the same pathology, I just get the impression his motive for showing off these nutcases has a lot to do with showing how he's "one of the Good Ones."
He's not a woman, he's just an extremely effeminate homosexual man.
Blaires pretty much textbook HSTS.
At least he knows he's not a woman and doesn't agree with forcing that shit on kids.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

There was a video where he suggests to not feed obese people's delusions that they're healthy while expecting people to feed his delusion of being a woman

That reminds me of tweet I saw today:

 

[Procrastinhater]

That reminds me of tweet I saw today:
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It looks like the person bringing it up is being snarky but there is really no better example of the insanity and sheer cognitive dissonance in the way society treats the Transgender mind virus than anorexics.

They're both body dysmorphias that if untreated cause immense psychological and eventually physical harm to the sufferer, they're both rooted in low self esteem, and they both have a large social contagion aspect, but only the Gender bullshit is "affirmed" and validated, when they're both just different versions of the same dysmorphia, where a person has a skewed relation to their body image. The tranny "feels" like they are the opposite sex. The ana chan "feels" like they are too fat.
Both are delusions based on a subjective dissociation with reality.

To treat both of them effectively requires in depth counselling and therapy, and to drive home the reality of the situation, despite the emotional discomfort this reality has for the sufferer, until they recognize the real problem.
If we dealt with anorexia the way we deal with gender dysmorphia then ana chans would be prescribed laxatives, kept to extremly low calorie controlled diets, and if requested liposuction.

I've not yet heard a Gender Cultist or Handmaiden effectively explain how the two mental illnesses are not the same, without falling back on the nebulous and subjective unscientific "they just are."
Refusing to allow the anorexic to starve themselves to death causes them the same amount of psychological trauma and discomfort that "misgendering" the tranny, and refusing to play along with their delusion does, but we do it with anorexic because the alternative is too allow a person who is psychologically incapable of making rational decisions for their own good to do immense physical harm.
We don't give them laxatives for fear of being called "skellyphobic."

 

[Jacques1194]

It looks like the person bringing it up is being snarky but there is really no better example of the insanity and sheer cognitive dissonance in the way society treats the Transgender mind virus than anorexics.
They're both body dysmorphias that if untreated cause immense psychological and eventually physical harm to the sufferer, they're both rooted in low self esteem, and they both have a large social contagion aspect, but only the Gender bullshit is "affirmed" and validated, when they're both just different versions of the same dysmorphia, where a person has a skewed relation to their body image. The tranny "feels" like they are the opposite sex. The ana chan "feels" like they are too fat.
Both are delusions based on a subjective dissociation with reality.
To treat both of them effectively requires in depth counselling and therapy, and to drive home the reality of the situation, despite the emotional discomfort this reality has for the sufferer, until they recognize the real problem.
If we dealt with anorexia the way we deal with gender dysmorphia then ana chans would be prescribed laxatives, kept to extremly low calorie controlled diets, and if requested liposuction.
I've not yet heard a Gender Cultist or Handmaiden effectively explain how the two mental illnesses are not the same, without falling back on the nebulous and subjective unscientific "they just are."
Refusing to allow the anorexic to starve themselves to death causes them the same amount of psychological trauma and discomfort that "misgendering" the tranny, and refusing to play along with their delusion does, but we do it with anorexic because the alternative is too allow a person who is psychologically incapable of making rational decisions for their own good to do immense physical harm.
We don't give them laxatives for fear of being called "skellyphobic."

The main argument i've seen from TRAs is that when you play into the delusions of a person who's anorexic that it doesn't improve their mental health, whereas with trans they'll argue and link questionable studies where it improves their mental health and the suicide rate drops.Whether or not this is true, why does it matter?Wouldn't this just prove that trans people are more delusional than a person's who's anorexic?They still aren't whatever gender they identify with.Wearing clothing of the opposite sex doesn't make you that sex.Hormones dont change your sex.Wouldn't the fact that they think that just makes them delusional?Hell there are TIMs who think they're getting periods by just taking estrogen.There was even a TIF on reddit who thought she was growing testes due to taking so much testosterone.All this is proving is that trans people are crazier than an anorexic person who can at least accept themselves.

 

[Procrastinhater]

The thing is I've seen at least one study that shows that mental health and wellbeing is worse, and even that suicide attempts actually increases after the Eunuch surgeries.
And it's a lot more thorough in it methodology and not just circle-jerk reviewed by other vested interests like any pro-troon "studies" I've read.

 

[TruffleSpark]

The thing is I've seen at least one study that shows that mental health and wellbeing, and even suicide attempts actually increases after the Eunuch surgeries.
And it's a lot more thorough in it methodology and not just circle-jerk reviewed by other vested interests like any pro-troon "studies" I've read.

Aside from all the horrible complications they get and the complete lack of aftercare I think a big part of that is that you can't chase the dragon any further once you got bottom surgery. You've gotten as close to being a "real" man or woman as you are ever going to get. And you're still not happy, but now you don't even have a goal to work towards the way you did before. What's even the point after that?

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Aside from all the horrible complications they get and the complete lack of aftercare I think a big part of that is that you can't chase the dragon any further once you got bottom surgery. You've gotten as close to being a "real" man or woman as you are ever going to get. And you're still not happy, but now you don't even have a goal to work towards the way you did before. What's even the point after that?

Their chasing a high. Alot of times these people are straight coomers and cannot get any sort of stimulation as they jack it 3 times a day. The only thing you can do at that point is to mess with your fundamental anatomy and get the last final rush but then deal with the consequences afterwards.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Aside from all the horrible complications they get and the complete lack of aftercare I think a big part of that is that you can't chase the dragon any further once you got bottom surgery. You've gotten as close to being a "real" man or woman as you are ever going to get. And you're still not happy, but now you don't even have a goal to work towards the way you did before. What's even the point after that?

You're right, and I think the more intelligent (it's relative, we're talking about fucking idiots here) of them realize that, know that the surgeries are dogshit, and that's why they'll hold off saying they're "waiting for better tech or procedures."
Its also why the more histrionic, and especially the ones who have already had it, fucking hate it when troons bring that excuse to the hug box, especially the post-surgery trannies, they know they fucked up, and having it rubbed in their faces makes them lose it.
I've seen quite a few funny meltdowns, from both Troons and Pooners, when someone questions or criticizes the "results" of tranny surgery, it makes them seethe like few other things do.

 

[Crex Crex]

Aside from all the horrible complications they get and the complete lack of aftercare I think a big part of that is that you can't chase the dragon any further once you got bottom surgery. You've gotten as close to being a "real" man or woman as you are ever going to get. And you're still not happy, but now you don't even have a goal to work towards the way you did before. What's even the point after that?

Disgusting complications aside, I think the biggest issue for post-op troons is the realization that they killed any prospect for short and long term relationships. Nearly nobody wants to fuck a stinkditch or an arm sausage (would you stick it in a colostomy hole? That's basically the equivalent), and those who do can be counted on one hand. They probably also subconsciously know that their fake genitals are, well, fake and barely functional. I think this is also why those that don't kill themselves inevitably become insane copium addicts, even by troon standards.