Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Save the Loli said:
They do have insiders in China. Kind of, since they're sponsored by Falun Gong USA which is a CIA front.
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Falun Gong funds most of the anti-China channels on youtube. There are a few ex-pats in China attempting to debunk some of the news stories. But they are few and far between. It's much like North Korea and the promoted stories you hear from defectors.



Not to say China is some paradise or anything. It's just that they play it up hard. To gain population anti-China sentiment.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Remember when the Ukrosimps were posting this everywhere, including here?

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The most hilarious thing about that retarded meme is that it relies on the bullshit talking point all the nigger cattle were promoting that Russia was out of modern tanks and would only be fielding older T-62s. Of course in the many months since we've seen that the Russians still have plenty of T-72's, T-80's, and T-90's around, to say nothing of artillery, mines, ATGM's, and various suicide drones that have fucked up the Hohol's wunderwaffen formations.

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Yak-130 Mitten said:
Those are for a single day, right? Because I've seen more destroyed Krabs than there were in polish military at a point.
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I actually looked this up - according to Wikipedia, Poland had 80 in service and more on order, and basically donated their entire inventory to the Ukrainians. And even the Ukraine-friendly Oryx blog is confirming that at least 15 of the donated units have been destroyed.
 
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I think I recall my own thoughts about ukrainians using self propelled artillery. A lot of it was destroyed pretty much on the frontlines, or at most 2km away from it. My theory was they were using it like ww2 assault guns, only forgetting that those had at least a semblence of armor, while m109, 2s9 and krabs are pretty much metal boxes to support the howitzer.
 
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Yak-130 Mitten said:
I think I recall my own thoughts about ukrainians using self propelled artillery. A lot of it was destroyed pretty much on the frontlines, or at most 2km away from it. My theory was they were using it like ww2 assault guns, only forgetting that those had at least a semblence of armor, while m109, 2s9 and krabs are pretty much metal boxes to support the howitzer.
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From what I remember reading and seeing on video, the biggest issue was that the Ukrainians were completely forgetting the "self-propelled" part. That is that they were moving them into position, firing...and then staying put. Meaning that they would wind up getting hit by counter-battery fire, strike aircraft, and suicide drones. By contrast, videos of Russian self-propelled artillery units would show them rolling into position, firing salvos, and then getting the hell out of there.
 
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make_it_so said:
From what I remember reading and seeing on video, the biggest issue was that the Ukrainians were completely forgetting the "self-propelled" part. That is that they were moving them into position, firing...and then staying put. Meaning that they would wind up getting hit by counter-battery fire, strike aircraft, and suicide drones. By contrast, videos of Russian self-propelled artillery units would show them rolling into position, firing salvos, and then getting the hell out of there.
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How do you fuck up that hard? I know not immediately getting new tech/weaponry is a thing from my own experience with new stuff in general, but that seems like an extremely basic fuck up. Even if someone didn't show you how to use it, wouldn't you put two and two together from the name alone? And you are on a battlefield: staying still while shit is going on all around you means death.
 
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God of Nothing said:
How do you fuck up that hard? I know not immediately getting new tech/weaponry is a thing from my own experience with new stuff in general, but that seems like an extremely basic fuck up. Even if someone didn't show you how to use it, wouldn't you put two and two together from the name alone? And you are on a battlefield: staying still while shit is going on all around you means death.
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Well remember, this is the same army whose manuever warfare tactics are "drive straight out into a probably heavily mined open field without making any use terrain cover, smoke, or supporting artillery fire until our tanks and APC's start blowing up."
 
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make_it_so said:
Well remember, this is the same army whose manuever warfare tactics are "drive straight out into a probably heavily mined open field without making any use terrain cover, smoke, or supporting artillery fire until our tanks and APC's start blowing up."
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ah, right, they want to die
Also, I did not know that. Been a while since I kept up with what's going on. All of the Ghost of Kiev shit turned me off to the actual war side of things.
 
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make_it_so said:
Well remember, this is the same army whose manuever warfare tactics are "drive straight out into a probably heavily mined open field without making any use terrain cover, smoke, or supporting artillery fire until our tanks and APC's start blowing up."
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To be fair, if I was a forcibly conscripted hohol I'd be jumping on mines too.
 
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Lisdexamfetamine ℞ said:
It's funny I've seen Wagner say that Isis wouldn't give up the fight in Syria but keep going until dead (they respected that) but they mentioned that Ukraine all the holhols will offer you money and beg in the face of death.
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Jump said:
The hohol army that faced Wagner in the meatgrinder where mosltly forced conscripts. They never wanted to be there.
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Yeah prety much this. ISIS was mostly zealots, while the Ukrainian Army is made up of regular people from all walks of life, both Hohol zealots and regular joes.
 
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Some Flir action. No turret toss but a human toss:




Apparently Putin finally took Erdogans phone call today. Essentially nothing changed. Putin said the other side needs to hold up their end and then we will continue to hold up ours. Putin is supposed to go to Turkey sometime in the near future as well. I'd be interested if anyone would try to get Turkey to enforce that international warrant on Putin, or if anyone will show up and try to do it. Turkey is a country full of untrustworthy cocksuckers, after all.
 
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This will help Ukraine win the optics war
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just a banana said:
This will help Ukraine win the optics war
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His first official announcement? "We got 'em!"



Power Appreciator said:
Is this actually real? That troon supposedly got shelled and badly hurt earlier this year and I haven't heard about it since.
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He got a cut on his hand. Not exactly "badly hurt" especially for someone who survived voluntary castration.
 
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just a banana said:
This will help Ukraine win the optics war
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Looks like Keffals with a bad dye job. 🤔

Except, of course, it won't help them in the parts of the world already mildly supportive of Russia: Africa, South America, large parts of Asia and the Middle East.

edit: And a Sargent, no less. Does anyone know the rules for US citizens serving in the military of other countries? I thought it was a no-no, barring maybe Our Greatest Ally™, though maybe Ukraine is approaching Israel levels?

2nd edit: I don't see any evidence of any sort of "official" status, conferred or about to be conferred? Not sure the tweet has that part right. However, what's confusing is that "her" YouTube channel is well,

Description News and stories direct from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and produced by the AFU Territorial Defense Forces Media Studios in Kyiv. We cover official reports from the Ukrainian military along with updates from the President's office, the Rada, regional governments and our international allies.
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Which I guess confers a bit more status than just another YouTube sperg. Looks like there's a Uke gov't. sponsorship, so maybe I'm being too picky here.

One would think as a 100% true and honest Valkyrie/Sargent "she" would be out there on Bakhmut front infiltrating trenches with those bolt ons. I'd comment something to that effect, but since I'm sure I'd be immediately banned I'll not bother.

Finally, much to my surprise Google tells me US citizens can serve in most non-US militaries without any worries about citizenship issues. It looks like you could even be on the Russian side, since there's no overt hostilities.

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