Steve Quest (p/k/a Montagraph) vs. Nicholas Robert Rekieta & Rekieta Law, LLC (2023)

Nick discussed his lawsuit in his latest livestream. A few notable points:
  1. Nick claims that Monty has never asked for a retraction. That's why Nick hasn't retracted.
  2. Schneider has never put forth a settlement offer and now Nick will never do it.
  3. Since Monty is only asking for 50k in damages, Nick's opinion is that Schneider will only get 30% of that (or $15k). I have no idea about defamation cases, but is it possible that if proven, Nick would have to pay for Monty's lawyer expenses too?
 
Nick claims that Monty has never asked for a retraction.
Anyone with more knowledge of the case, is this true?
I have no idea about defamation cases, but is it possible that if proven, Nick would have to pay for Monty's lawyer expenses too?
Each party bears its own costs unless there is an exception of the American Rule at play (statutory authorization or “conduct amount[ing] to abuse of the judicial process”, the so called “Bad Faith” exception. See, generally, Kelly v. Golden, 352 F.3d 344 (8th Cir. 2003)).
 
the American Rule
Literally the reason why we have the most idiotically litigious society in the history of the world.

Every time I try to argue against it, though, I notice the weird combination of litigious societies and civilization itself. If you go back to ancient Greece, for instance, this was also a viciously litigious society. Look how many times Aristophanes got sued.

Oh well whatever.
 
Schneider has never put forth a settlement offer and now Nick will never do it.
He is such a faggy brat. I hope he enjoys years of protracted, expensive lawsuit bullshit draining his money, time and will to live. But at least he can say “Schneider never put forth a settlement offer so fuck him, I will never offer to settle.” Congratulations on your disastrous decision making driven by childish defiance.
 
He is such a faggy brat. I hope he enjoys years of protracted, expensive lawsuit bullshit draining his money, time and will to live. But at least he can say “Schneider never put forth a settlement offer so fuck him, I will never offer to settle.” Congratulations on your disastrous decision making driven by childish defiance.
REEEEE REEEEE [autistic screeching] FUCK YOU DAD. <--- Nick
 
Nick claims that Monty has never asked for a retraction. That's why Nick hasn't retracted.
In my opinion Nick threw that out as an excuse. I think Nick understands that this has gotten way past the point where most people would consider some sort of settlement even if they thought they were totally in the right. He appeared pretty defensive about the idea of a settlement.

In the same stream last night, he said "there is no defamation of Montagraph. I don't believe anything I've said was false."

Anyone with more knowledge of the case, is this true?
It's impossible to know for sure since there's no way of verifying what either Monty or Schneider have sent to Nick, if anything.

However, I don't have any reason to doubt it.

While we now have recent examples of three people (Null, Sean, Spectre) who have made corrections or clarifications after receiving requests from Montagraph, as far as I'm aware, none of them had made statements like this:
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Rekieta has since made clear he has no intention of settling. Why would Schneider waste time preparing a settlement offer? If NIck decides to change his position, he can come to them.

A simple case is something along the lines of "your tree fell on house and you don't want to pay." Compared to the cases we follow here, this one is simple, but it's more complicated than >90% of actual civil cases.
I'm pretty sure 25 months from complaint to trial would be more in line with the top 1% of civil cases, not 10%.

Not to say this is a particularly trivial case, especially when both sides appear content to make it as complex as possible (months were spent on one side trying to apply an anti-SLAPP law in a state where anti-SLAPP was held to be unconstitutional) but does 25 months seem wild.
 
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In the same stream last night, he said "there is no defamation of Montagraph. I don't believe anything I've said was false."
Oh boy, he really is fucking retarded. A bit of free legal advice from not a lawyer, shut the fuck up. Do not talk about your legal disputes until they are done. Just shut the fuck up
 
Another part of last night's stream regarding the lolsuit
  • Nothing I said was defamatory
  • There was no discovery of defamation, because I didn't defame him
  • It's an opinion that others have wrote about Monty for a decade
  • I was never contacted regarding a retraction
I'm not a legal expert, but calling someone a pedophile without any evidence seems pretty defamatory to me.

 
Kurt is covering Balldoman's livestream about Nose's lawsuit:
Link because Kurt disabled streaming on other sites?

Edit: Save yourself the almost two hours of rain main autism. Kurt claims he doesn't find Nick to be hypocritical, because reasons. I'm summarizing, badly, but supposedly the Colorado anti-slapp was invoked because it shifts fees, and since Nick thinks that is how it should be, somehow that's not hypocritical. I don't claim to have enough of a grasp on the law to give a shit what the Colorado law says.

The funny bits were Kurt casting shade on Balldoman for never responding to messages. Or chat. As noted in the Rackets thread, Mandy K was being a BPD pickme in chat.

I guess watch it if you want to see an autist meltdown for 40 minutes about a hypothetical moral question (is it ok to use a law that you believe is immoral?).
 
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Nick claims that Monty has never asked for a retraction. That's why Nick hasn't retracted.

No Cease and Desist letter prior to commencing litigation? That sounds awfully unlikely. Is this another of the differences between the US and the UK? Here, you'd always get a Cease and Desist letter first, giving you the opportunity to stop the infringing activity and limit any potential damage.

I assume this would all be laid out in the first letter Nick got from Schnieder?
Edit: reading through Schnieder's early filings, there's no obvious attempt at a cease and desist or any attempt to resolve the issue prior going to law. Presumably, that's just more evidence of his complete lack of experience in defamation actions?

That said, Rekieta's lawyer could have also proposed a settlement and asked what it would take to make this go away. This is Lolcow vs Lolcow, with both sides being represented by Lolcow, Lolcow and Lolcow -- Attorneys at law.
 
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The funny bits were Kurt casting shade on Balldoman for never responding to messages.
In Nick's stream last night, he specifically said that he reached out to Kurt and Kurt never responded. Judging from the fact that Null has also had issues with Nick responding, my guess is that Nick just lies through his teeth about that stuff.
 

Elissa has a clip of Nick literally responding to Montegraph asking him to stop defaming him. I thought it was just the watermelon comment which in my mind doesn't count. But there it is in plain English.

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Damn... That clip just shows Nick is:

A: A dumb retarded amnesiac

B: A liar that lies

Nick seems to be a bit of both. He cannot be arsed to research anything (his chat and the Farms correcting him OK ahit was a regular occurrence long into the past) and when he doesn't like something, he will play rules lawyer to justify his own position.

Relying on technicalities gets you where Nick is. Are you aging any fun, Nick?
 
I dunno about Nick but I’m having fun. I’m also learning lots of neat legal theories like “don’t defame someone per se” and “don’t have video evidence of the defamation while making repeated references to the defamation”. This is some pretty advanced law stuff. I might be out of my depth here.

It’s extra funny because Nick presumably studied this exact scenario in law school and with all his talk about First Amendment issues should know the lines he can’t cross.

There’s lots of nasty things he could have said about Montagraph that would be unpleasant but not defamatory. I guess it takes a real super lawyer to screw up this badly.
 
Elissa has a clip of Nick literally responding to Montegraph asking him to stop defaming him. I thought it was just the watermelon comment which in my mind doesn't count. But there it is in plain English.

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He doesn’t know this is the real Month, does he? Pippa also responded to several Null superchats, except Null never super chatter her, someone just made a YT account that looked like his.

Regardless, even if this is his true acc, technically speaking he didn’t ask for a retraction, so Nick wasn’t wrong
 
He doesn’t know this is the real Month, does he? Pippa also responded to several Null superchats, except Null never super chatter her, someone just made a YT account that looked like his.

Regardless, even if this is his true acc, technically speaking he didn’t ask for a retraction, so Nick wasn’t wrong
He picked the wrong Superchat to display. The below one sounds like a request for retraction to me. Unless we are talking about some turbofaggot lawyer definition relying on legal technicalities. Which I'm sure is what Nick will be relying on.

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Literally the reason why we have the most idiotically litigious society in the history of the world.
Who ever came up with that rule? You guys must have had a strong lawyer lobby from the very start :-)
He doesn’t know this is the real Month, does he? Pippa also responded to several Null superchats, except Null never super chatter her, someone just made a YT account that looked like his.
I would be personally surprised if that could be considered a formal request for retraction for that reason. But not an us lawyer.
 
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