Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Dumcumpster]

So a good bit back I made a post saying I lost a friend to troonism. We still hang out and play games together and stuff but to me our friendship is different. Idk if they notice but it is.

I'm posting again now because I'm worried another one of my good friends(a butchy lesbian) has drank the troonaid and last night sent a "Lil' update!" To everyone saying that she wanted her pronouns to be she/they and maybe wanting to use they/them later. Out of my most people in my social group we get along the best and it kept me up all night last night just thinking that I really don't want to lose another friend to this shit. I want to bring it up to her that I want to know why she decided this and try to figure out how to put a stop to this. And while I'm supportive of my friends and we hang out frequently, I know it will forever change our relationship.

The best way I can think to put it is (using a fake name here) my friend is Lacy, I don't want to be friends with Larry. She's one of my best friends and given past experience

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

He was put into a kind of quarantine zone while some of the apparently more level-headed people messaged him, in an effort to make him see the error of his ways

Hopefully a bunch of trannies defending the identity of a dellusional mother fucker peaked him and got him to see the absurd the self identifying stuff is in the first place.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Hopefully a bunch of trannies defending the identity of a dellusional mother fucker peaked him and got him to see the absurd the self identifying stuff is in the first place.

Seriously if you're gonna respect Christ Chan as a woman to be consistant you have to respect him as a fucking Video Console Goddess and a damn Pokemon too, one of his delusions is no more valid than the others, they're all fucking nuts but if you're gonna play along with one of them and not be a hypocrite you gotta start praying to Blue Heart too.
Of course these faggots have no problem with hypocrisy, its the air they breath.

 

[On a Journey]

Troonery has a lot in common with Peter Pan syndrome too:

• Chronic unemployment or underemployment. An otherwise capable person may refuse to look for jobs. They may be constantly kicked out of jobs due to absenteeism or misbehavior.
• Not doing one’s fair share at home. A person might get married and have children, but spend most of their days playing video games while their partner works, cleans, and tends to the children.
• Relying on someone else to take care of financial responsibilities. A person with Peter Pan syndrome might rely on others to take care of money issues (without contributing something of value in return such as childcare).
• Failure to launch. A person may remain at home with their parents in spite of opportunities to earn money, get a job, or move out.
• Emotional outbursts when facing stressful situations.
• A tendency to make excuses and blame others when things go wrong.
• Little or no interest in personal growth.
• Expectations of being taken care of.

Every one of those points (except the bit about having a spouse and children) applies to my TiM brother. He still lives with our mother and constantly complains about how unsupportive she is, contributes absolutely nothing to the household, and occasionally even yells at her. Meanwhile, she provides him with everything he needs (including helping him get hormones which I keep telling her not to do). She knows she's enabling him but for some reason feels unable to stop. Last time I visited, I learned that while she was away he was supposed to take care of her pets but instead he neglected them to the point that they easily could have died (classic "woman" behavior). I've never felt that much contempt toward someone who used to be so close to me.

The troon brainrot has made him a terrible person and I don't know how to deal with it. I imagine this is a lot like seeing your sibling become a drug addict, although at least then it's socially acceptable to be upset about it. I just finished undergrad so I'm going to stay in my mother's spare room for a bit until I find a job (I won't know what city I'm moving to until I'm hired somewhere), so it's gonna be rough. Whenever I see his dumb face it takes every ounce of restraint I have not to start a fight.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Every one of those points (except the bit about having a spouse and children) applies to my TiM brother. He still lives with our mother and constantly complains about how unsupportive she is, contributes absolutely nothing to the household, and occasionally even yells at her. Meanwhile, she provides him with everything he needs (including helping him get hormones which I keep telling her not to do). She knows she's enabling him but for some reason feels unable to stop. Last time I visited, I learned that while she was away he was supposed to take care of her pets but instead he neglected them to the point that they easily could have died (classic "woman" behavior). I've never felt that much contempt toward someone who used to be so close to me.

I don't know how to talk about this without powerlevelling but I got kicked out by my parents in my mid 20s for less than this. I was mad at the time but in hindsight it was the right thing for them to do. I was never going to take responsibility for my life unless I was forced to. Enabling and infantilising me would have been the worst thing they could have done. At least I was always good to their pets, Jesus Christ they would have killed me if I'd neglected them.

 

[Marcus Tullius Cicero]

Hopefully a bunch of trannies defending the identity of a dellusional mother fucker peaked him and got him to see the absurd the self identifying stuff is in the first place.

It was more the vehemence in their defense that drove him away, really. Yet, he seemed to think positively of the two tasked with messaging him, but any port in a storm, I suppose.

Seriously if you're gonna respect Christ Chan as a woman to be consistant you have to respect him as a fucking Video Console Goddess and a damn Pokemon too, one of his delusions is no more valid than the others, they're all fucking nuts but if you're gonna play along with one of them and not be a hypocrite you gotta start praying to Blue Heart too.
Of course these faggots have no problem with hypocrisy, its the air they breath.

I think it's an all-or-nothing situation, generally-speaking. In that they believe basic identities should be honored, despite whatever evils one commits. There was at least one fellow (an MtF) who thought differently on the matter, at one time, but might-well tow the line now, for all I know. Yet, a number of people there are also in the habit of changing usernames semi-consistently, so it makes telling who's who rather difficult.

 

[Procrastinhater]

In that they believe basic identities should be honored, despite whatever evils one commits.

If they truly held to that belief instead of just paying it convenient lip service they would be compelled even more strictly into recognizing him as a Pokémon Deity and Mayor of CwCville.
It's been part of his identity (the CwCville Mayor shit ) for over a decade at this point.
This self ID shit is retarded.

 

[NoReturn]

18-24 cause I know how it is, I turn 23 next week and I wish I could go back to 17 to pick a different job stream or discipline instead of picking some garbage with which I have to suffer currently in a cubicle office job doing the coding equivalent of manual labour everyday as my shitty bosses demean me and tell me that my contributions worthless or Im always wrong cause I dont autistically follow their every command unthinkingly.

Spoiler: Off-topic

You don't actually gotta do that. I'm telling you this now because you're still young, but given the way the world is right now there are shit-tons of us out here who aren't using our degrees for jack-fuckall. Even people who skipped out on college are career-hoppers just because of how things have worked out.
Make friends, be socialable, even if it is hard or feels unnatural. That'll help you more than anything else.

 

[Wallace]

I don't know how to talk about this without powerlevelling but I got kicked out by my parents in my mid 20s for less than this. I was mad at the time but in hindsight it was the right thing for them to do. I was never going to take responsibility for my life unless I was forced to. Enabling and infantilising me would have been the worst thing they could have done. At least I was always good to their pets, Jesus Christ they would have killed me if I'd neglected them.

This is the important part. We have a generation of kids who have learned that their actions do not have consequences, because their helicopter parents will take those consequences away. Emotional maturity is not innately learned, it must be taught by the parents.

 

[Runch]

This isn't a friend or family member, but feels like a thread you can use to talk about someone you pity more than you hate.

Stumbled across a Youtuber with about 10k subs, nothing special, has a Markiplier radio voice and constant prattle. Feels like someone who got on the train a little late and was doing 2009-style Let's Play in 2016. Probably annoying to most people, but playing games I had an interest in and something to put on as background noise. Seems like a nice guy, talks about his wife, has ADD, does silly voices, expressly stays non-political, just games. Canadian.

I notice his user icon has a different hairstyle than in his old videos...check a recent video...he trooned out recently. Says that he's always felt different, has always been in touch with his feminine side, and is finally no longer depressed (never seemed depressed before). Says he's been in wonderful Canadian therapy and consultations and they revealed so much and set him straight. Now he starts his videos with a soft-spoken womanly tone of voice, but does a terrible job of hiding the normal dude he used to be and slips back into average guy mode all the time...it's all performative and he can't keep it up. And of course did the "coming out" video where he regrets how apolitical he uses to be and trans women are women and if you don't like him as a trans woman you can just fuck right off. Oddly a much more aggressive attitude than he ever had when he "was" a guy. I think he even set a filter on his youtube comments to hide his male name.

I just feel sad because he was so normal in his old videos. Not a disgusting or loathsome person who you would expect to troon out. Somehow it feels like this was imposed upon him and the world just lost one more normal person and replaced them with a freak who is going to spiral downward from here.

 

[One Quick Post]

I just feel sad because he was so normal in his old videos. Not a disgusting or loathsome person who you would expect to troon out. Somehow it feels like this was imposed upon him and the world just lost one more normal person and replaced them with a freak who is going to spiral downward from here.

If I made a post every time a content creator I followed trooned out, I'd have a fuckton of comments in this thread. It's always the same too, they turn from cool but maybe a little quirky and nerdy guys into fucking narcissists who talk about troon shit all the time and "if you don't like it you can fuck off." Like i'm not exaggerating when I say trooning out doesn't change their personality, it fucking erases it and replaces it with the Tranny NPC preset.

Then they start crying about how they've lost half their audience "just for being transgender" as if turning into a fucking asshole and spouting divisive politics all the time had nothing to do with it. They talk about how they're "so much happier now" and being their "true selves" cured their depression, but in actuality they turn into a miserable husk. Nothing can just be fun anymore, because being apolitical is silence and silence is violence.

After a while they start regretting "coming out" because of all the "transphobia" but what really happens is clear to anyone not drinking the Kool-Aid, they drove off anyone who gave a shit about them beyond the political points they've become a megaphone for, nobody cares about them anymore because nobody wants to watch a boring, miserable, seething cunt of a person (who ironically will never have one,) and the only people who are still there for them would stick a knife in their back if they espoused one wrong opinion.

 

[Procrastinhater]

If I made a post every time a content creator I followed trooned out, I'd have a fuckton of comments in this thread. It's always the same too, they turn from cool but maybe a little quirky and nerdy guys into fucking narcissists who talk about troon shit all the time and "if you don't like it you can fuck off." Like i'm not exaggerating when I say trooning out doesn't change their personality, it fucking erases it and replaces it with the Tranny NPC preset.

Then they start crying about how they've lost half their audience "just for being transgender" as if turning into a fucking asshole and spouting divisive politics all the time had nothing to do with it. They talk about how they're "so much happier now" and being their "true selves" cured their depression, but in actuality they turn into a miserable husk. Nothing can just be fun anymore, because being apolitical is silence and silence is violence.

After a while they start regretting "coming out" because of all the "transphobia" but what really happens is clear to anyone not drinking the Kool-Aid, they drove off anyone who gave a shit about them beyond the political points they've become a megaphone for, nobody cares about them anymore because nobody wants to watch a boring, miserable, seething cunt of a person (who ironically will never have one,) and the only people who are still there for them would stick a knife in their back if they espoused one wrong opinion.

Exactly. If they just trooned out but kept it to themselves and most importantly kept their content the same they wouldn't see the huge audience drop these faggots do.
But they inevitably can't keep their AGP shit out of their "professional" life, like all troons, it becomes the focus of their life and their entire personality changes to "trans"- whatever, they inject more and more troon talking points, they start to talk about their disgusting fetishes, and when their audience starts to complain they always pull the "if you don't like it then fuck off" shit, but then cry and complain and are baffled when the audience that isn't there for troon shit and fetish talk and doesn't feel politically deadlocked into having to be "an ally" does just that.
It's not transphobia that killed your audience dipshit, it's because that audience subscribed for *insert whatever genre and not Leftist political rants and constant updates on how far your AGP has rotted your brain this week.

 

[Jacques1194]

I met these two TIFs online where one admits to starting testosterone soon.One in particular admits that she was diagnosed with autism and seems to have an eating disorder where she can't consume 90% of food due to have some body related issues.Recently, she sounded like she's actually afraid because she said and i quote. " That’s going to be me after 50 blood tests to make sure I won’t die if I take testosterone (i am deathly afraid of needles) " over someone's comment about getting your blood drawn in general.I dont know about you guys, but it sounds like her doctor knows how dangerous it is for a female to take testosterone, and yet she still wants to go forward with this, because she claims there's no other way she can live her life except passing and transitioning into a boy.I really want to ask and say a few things to her but i just know that it'll be pointless, and that i'll get banned for transphobia.

 

[Bookwork]

Cross-posting praise for this thread on "Blocked and Reported" that got posted to the MATI thread (from the quote box there):

As a side note, as someone who has had trans shit seriously affect my real life, KF's "losing people to transgenderism" thread has indirectly provided more emotional support to me than anything or anyone else on the internet or in real life. There are so many posts on that particular thread that start with a variation on "I created an account because this is the only place I can say this." KF is full of racists and assholes and what seem to be actually decent people, and it's important that it continues to exist.

The comment on "Blocked and Reported" was in response to Josh's appearance yesterday on the Heterodorx podcast.

 

[Appletuncrusader]

This isn't much, but I think I got somebody not to transition. It's a blur now but I explained to this woman some of that "temperament" stuff and how having a personality like the oppose sex doesn't make you even gay or the wrong sex and it's fine to try and stick to reality. I didn't actually talk to her all that much, but I'm real glad I was able to help somebody with this sorta thing.

 

[quackrock]

Another friend is starting down this path. Signs we've all seen. She's hurting and vulnerable and the perfect target for troonism. I don't know if it's too late but I'm going to try and pull her out of it. Open to suggestions. I'm tired of seeing friends fall prey to this madness.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

Another friend is starting down this path. Signs we've all seen. She's hurting and vulnerable and the perfect target for troonism. I don't know if it's too late but I'm going to try and pull her out of it. Open to suggestions. I'm tired of seeing friends fall prey to this madness.

Ask her point blank if transitioning is her trying to escape something.

 

[Chickenpolar]

Another friend is starting down this path. Signs we've all seen. She's hurting and vulnerable and the perfect target for troonism. I don't know if it's too late but I'm going to try and pull her out of it. Open to suggestions. I'm tired of seeing friends fall prey to this madness.

Touch grass with her. Get her away from tumblr/discord/Reddit/Twitter and do normal (not queer) stuff out and about together. Go for lunch, go to the zoo or a park, a daytripdrive somewhere. She needs some time unplugged from the cult and it will feel good for her to actually do something with good company.

 

[Vect]

It could be nothing, but I’m beginning to suspect my old high school crush might have trooned out. I was drunk last night and started idly searching my old friends and classmates (some married, or in high ranking jobs), and found profiles for everyone under their old names except him - which might not mean anything except: he was the very first person who introduced the idea of transgenderism to me in the early 2010s (in biology class, no less) and called me stupid when I had no idea what he was talking about. He wanted to be a doctor, yet openly cheated on his mock exams; he was also lazy, terminally online, into computers, flunked out to play games and in many was unrealistic about his capabilities. Looking back, he had a free signs of autism and possibly drug abuse. Worst of all, he’s from the UK, and last I heard he went back there despite having no formal qualifications in any field. I suspect the reason I can’t find him is he’s changed his name since.

There are other little details, but nobody else I know personally has trooned out, so…God knows.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Troons are like deathfats. They require at least one other person to provide all the services they refuse to do. A troon-feeder. If they don’t have one they spend all their time grooming to get one.

I’ve had a first hand account of an abusive FTM troon who forced her way into a house share by starting an abusive relationship with a naive and compliant student nurse.
This troon comes from some foreign country and has AN ADOPTED CHILD there, being raised by her parents as she abandoned it.
When asked to perform basic chores in the house she breaks plates at 2am, and slams doors until everyone (yeah, all women) gets scared and quietly does it for her.
She also hides/steals stuff. Classic male behavior, right?
She does have a job (bar tender) but I’m surprised she can live on that.
Despite all this, the other women make excuses and call her a man.