Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

i'm fuzzy on the specifics but there is some genuine fuckery going on with the nhs in wales, basically if there is no specialist in wales, getting a referral to england can be a nightmare. for example, based on a quick google, countess of chester no longer accepts elective referrals from wales, so fuck you if you live 10 miles away but on the wrong side of the border.

i did have it explained to me by a welsh doctor, who despite his better understanding of the processes involved was unable to fathom how to get treatment that isn't actually done in wales, so actually needed to be done in england, and ended up paying privately. some of it comes down to the clinical commissioning groups i think. i dunno. i'm not defending AEA in general, but there is a grain of truth in that claim.
 
Grace’s platonic “girlfriend” is mostly boring but we can still mock her for a minute because she introduces us to MY FAVORITE PEOPLE I’ve found in a long time. See this is how this happens to me, because I found Grace on a hashtag search (#portacath) and went “this one looks interesting.” Then she starts dating this other attention seeker and welp, let’s see what she’s like. Then that one says “check out my friend’s account” and I say “okie dokie you’re the boss.” And suddenly I have 15 of them written and ready to post.

But I can’t just ignore Annie even though she’s not that fun because then she might get cocky. So let’s give this boring bitch the attention she craves.

Account starts October 2012. Normal teen girl fluff.
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She’s a teen model.
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She wants to go to art school.
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She’s also a theater kid, kinda. She isn’t selected to be in the play and she’s devastated.
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Vague post about how she’s going through something huge but her mom has been supporting her and she’s glad they’re still together. Amy is her sister.
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She turns 16.
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she’s a horse girl although this is the only time we see the horse. She really doesn’t update much so no red flags with that. There’s a lot of shit she mentions once that we can assume she continues doing but does not post about. Just trying to establish that she's normal, active, and has at least enough financial stability from her family to pursue hobbies and whims.
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Funny how with no context you can tell something is related to a very conservative Christian church, huh?
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Like Grace, she loses a bunch of weight in her high school years.
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And she’s bodychecking all the time now
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in May 2015 she bobs her hair off and poses in a backward cap. This doesn’t seem too significant but between her religion and her modeling hobby it actually is. She’ll go on to say her hair had become something of a personality trait and security blanket for her so cutting it off was like killing off a persona she no longer wanted.
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She’ll be attending SCAD, Savannah College of Art and Design, in the fall and is in love with it all. She never wants to leave Savannah!
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Just proof she was at least doing runway stuff and wasn't just claiming to be a model.
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She goes to prom with this dork.
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Despite all these normal teen girl school pics, she’s actually homeschooled and so are her friends.
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Summer means it’s time for jesus camp!
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Her hair’s grown back but it’s mermaided now.
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She’s at school and loving Savannah, she’s cut her hair again, and she’s posting about pride. Of course.
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For the rest of the school year it’s just boring bland college girl stuff except when she goes home for Christmas, she doesn’t seem to go back to Savannah. She’s just home all the time and there’s no explanation. Her home in Columbus is straight across the state from Savannah so there’s no way she’s commuting.
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She cuts all her hair off into a pixie cut now.
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She’s moving to Atlanta. SCAD has a campus there and she’ll be attending that from now on. While Savannah is almost five hours from home, Atlanta is only two.
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She gets her art in a student show. Also she’s looking much less thin.
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She’s in a SCAD promo.
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“I’ve fallen twice this week.” Welp.
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And with that, she announces she woke up one day with a sudden case of the EDS. She just couldn’t put any weight on her legs. That’s definitely how that works. This explains her pain, GI symptoms, fatigue, and more! She also has POTS and she’s bedbound now. And she’s doing the image IDs. Soon an account called painfully.me will show up to do all her image IDs. That’s her personal sicksta and it’s locked down to only close friends.
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Immediately we’re into the “advocating for yourself when doctors don’t believe you” era. Acknowledgement at the end that sudden inability to bear weight on your legs after a lifetime of normal use is not how EDS works (except for her, she’s very special).
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She’s suddenly blowing people off all the time.
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And she’s gotten quite doughy.
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I guess I just have to accept that I do not understand art.
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Photo posed to show off wrist brace and finger splint.
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She’s still posting only once every few weeks and very little that’s interesting at that, right up until coof. Suddenly she shaves her head and she has nothing better to do but obsess about everything wrong with her. Also she’s lookin thin again.
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“Sorry you’re all stuck inside but I’ve been voluntarily living like this for a year now so I’m worse off.”
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Amanda/geneticlly_bendy in the comments. Amanda had a hardcore eating disorder she tried to hide behind GP and intestinal failure and all kinds of food allergies. She starved herself to death with all these girls cheering her on.
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Running to the doctor all the time for fake diseases, but how dare you get a coffee. You’re literally killing her!!!
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she has the gastroparesis. Here’s some pictures of how she ballooned while in college then suddenly went back down to a size small.
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Lol she buys into those hokey vitamin patches.
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She’s no longer in school but it’s not because she graduated. She has an off the rack clunker wheelchair. Based on her weight this photo was from Fall 2019.
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Her wheelchair is named Bruce and her rollator is named Dory. Because why not?
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She purges herself to the hospital. Her potassium dips to under 0.6 mmol/L when 2.0 mmol/L is critical range and she seems proud of this. This apparently happened over a month ago and she’s been on liquid potassium to get her level back up to 4.1. So with the eternal caveat that I am not a doctor or a nurse or anything, I have no medical training whatsoever, and I’m really just some retard historyfag who likes documenting people, 0.6 sounds incompatible with life to me. So I did what I do, which is ask the google machine for reassurance, and lo and behold I found this journal article that says the lowest recorded blood potassium concentration in the literature is 0.9 mmol/L. That woman went into cardiac arrest, suffered an anoxic brain injury, and was removed from life support. Annie suffers no lasting problems from 0.6. I think this is another one where there’s a grain of truth – I think she totally tanked her potassium through purging – but she’s prone to wild lies and exaggerations.
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she found “the one.” They really write about their enabling doctors as if they’re writing about a new lover.
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MCAS and here comes Grace!
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New doctor lets her get a port installed. No more running to the ER for her salt water!
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Like Grace, she wanted to contain her illness spergs to her private but it’s too hard to separate herself from her fake illnesses when they’re the only reason people pay attention to her, so now she’s going to munch out on main. PTSD joins in and now she’s all about lgbtq + sex positivity.
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Her port is named Nemo. She can’t wait to start using it for medications.
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Obligatory “I was always sick but I thought it was normal.” Her cousin got diagnosed with EDS, which is the first time Annie heard of it. She did some extensive internet research and then got to convincing her doctors she had it.
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Her geneticist also has EDS lol. She gets a 9/9 on her beighton score.
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She’s finally graduating.
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Her potassium issues are not from purging but a rare averse reaction to some medication she’s been on for 8 years. But somehow it only threw her potassium to critical levels now.
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She gets genetics testing for rare EDS variants. She doesn’t have any which she claims confirms her hEDS diagnosis based on both clinical signs and exclusion. Fine whatever.
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So it turns out Grace is not the first instagram girlfriend Annie has had. She previously “dated” this Karuna chick who lives all the way in Ontario, Canada.
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Her story of how she got obsessed with social media likes and followers in high school but SCAD saved her except now she’s ‘sick’ so she’s obsessed with social media likes and followers again. The difference is now she’s not trying to make other girls jealous by being a hot teen model but by having the trendy diagnoses and toys.
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I think she’s trying to say she burned herself out trying to finish a double-major in painting and writing in three years.
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Her art is in a senior virtual exhibit.
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She can’t shit and needs us to know this, iykyk
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so she moved home from Atlanta pre-pandemic so mom could care for her.
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She makes a tiktok. Why do they always make a damn tiktok? She’s mostly just a catposter but at least we solved one mystery. She did her second semester of SCAD online before going to Atlanta which is why she never went back from winter break. She's implying it's because of her health but all the sick/er pics she post are from after she leaves Savannah.
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In this video she explains that she cut her hair off to the pixie cut because she got dumped but she buzzed her hair a while later because she was too sick to wash it.



Now that school’s done we’re back to doctor shopping. She has migraines now and her kidneys are being checked, her GI is giving her botox for her stomach and she’s got a neurologist who specializes in rare diseases. She has a new clinical diagnosis that she hopes will be confirmed soon.
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She gets her coof vaccine. Auvi-q is an epinephrine auto-injector like Epi-Pen.
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Purging has wrecked her teeth but we’ll blame it on EDS.
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Surprise no one wants to be friends with an attention seeker who will either flake at the last minute or show up but make it all about how she’s totally dying. Why won’t anyone sit around and listen to Annie whine about her health?
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The big thing that she survived in high school was predictable: her parents divorced and she had to move and transfer schools (and then she was homeschooled I guess).
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She’s diagnosed with Hypokalemic Periodic Paralysis, a very rare disorder that makes you dump potassium in response to certain things. Amy Lee Fisher claimed to have this for years to justify her forever-crashing potassium and her choice to drink died sodas all the time (because she said a “fast sugar” like that was the worst trigger for her HKPP. Turns out she just had bulimia facilitated by a purge tube and now she’s dead from heart failure because of it. Annie hopes her old GI who said this was a mental illness feels silly now!!! But also lol her EDS diagnosis was based off her waking up with legs that didn’t work which she’s now claiming was actually HKPP so does that negate the EDS?
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she’s been in therapy since she was five, just like Grace. And just like Grace she’s claiming it’s because of her lifelong health issues. Now she’s had a pain therapist since she was 14. Oh look she’s still “””dating””” the canadian.
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She’s documenting her MCAS reactions.
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This is one of them. LMAO girl no this was your sad “before” body check so you could gauge your progress once you decided to starve yourself back to your old body. I see u.
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she’s too sick to be well. She’s getting a new wheelchair that’s actually fitted for her.
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She’s excited to finally meet her girlfriend, her girlfriend who lives in Canada! And all she's interested in when she doesis hand holding.
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She’s as excited about her wheelchair as she was getting into SCAD.
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Celebrating a year of port life.
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2 day migraine but it’s SNOWING so it doesn’t matter.
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She’s starting DBT and acknowledging her privilege that mommy pays for whatever she says she needs, which includes a life coach.
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She has wisdom tooth extraction which she milks for several posts.
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But now her POTS and MCAS are out of control. She’s trying new medications.
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“I never had prom or formals so this was a treat.”
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Why would you lie about this lmao
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She found out she was “queer” from watching strawberry shortcake as a kid. Jesus wept.
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She’s doing so much better now thanks to her life coach.
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She and Grace are bffs now.
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She leaves her house after three years of isolation
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all her friends are online now
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oh noooooooooo the bathroom isn’t accessible because she had to put her purse on the ground instead of the purse hook. COULD YOU PISS? THAT'S KIND OF THE IMPORTANT PART. The first comment here is unintentional hilarity.
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Her sister gets married.
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She disappears for a week and says she ended in being rushed to the hospital by ambu because she couldn’t wake up or remain conscious one day. It ended up being a severe kidney infection she ignored. I do not believe she didn’t know this was happening. I think she knew she had an infection and waited it out for a more exciting medical adventure.
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Here’s her coming out story. She was super religious and in the middle of this told people she liked “more than one gender”. So. If you liked both and this was so life ruining and distressing for you, why not just… date men? You had that option. This is why I can’t take bisexuals seriously when they bloobloo about their oppression because lol go marry someone you love of the opposite sex and live a normal life.
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With that, she and Grace are now gal pals.
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Oh no the horror of people assuming you’re normal and healthy, what ever did you do?
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Oh my god this retard, who studied life drawing and anatomy, went to the doctor because her sternomastoid exists.
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I always love these posts where they try to retcon their childhood like ‘you remember I was out of school all the time right? I was always in the nurses office. You remember, don’t you???”
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she crashes her potassium and iron now.
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She posts a bunch of attention seeking reels.
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Wow, grace also claims she had anaphylaxis to her iron infusions what are the odds.

it's so hard to do nothing all day, isn't it?
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Your legs work, asshole. Even if you had HKPP your legs would work. Even if you had hEDS your legs would work.
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Muh mentluz
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don’t worry, I am bringing exposure to your account!
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Claims she was scheduled for a full abdominal surgery by accident.
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Oh god these girls are legitimately retarded. One wonders how they manage to convince doctors of anything.
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She was scheduled to have a surgery done and it was cancelled. She’s devastated because she’s ready to start feeling better and to have more energy and a better quality of life. $10 it was a feeding tube.
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It’s almost like you just had anxiety and an eating disorder.
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She’s so glad she found a doctor that will do whatever she asks her to do!!
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attempt two at the surgery is also a wash. Why on earth would they make someone who they know can stand stand for vitals?! She almost DIED.
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No, I expect genuinely ill and disabled people to try to live their normal lives and not make every single facet of everything they do about their health and disability for attention.
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But that’s not what you guys do. You make this your whole personality.
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She’s shilling the same bras grace does.
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“My teeth were beautifully intact” lol she’s purging, you can’t tell me otherwise. Pretending she’s horrified by her dropping weight and losing hair.
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I love my wheelchair!!!
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LOL HERE’S WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CANADIAN CUTIE. Apparently she was questioning some things about Annie’s stories and Grace convinced Annie she was in an abusive relationship even though they had a thousand miles and an international border between them. Hahaha holy shit Grace is such a viper.
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And her health declined after she was in two failed relationships during her stressful college program haha jesus christ. They always write the punchlines for me.
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She fucks up her port needle change and breaks down crying and all of this is a lead up to ...another ad for the bra/pajama company.
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Oh no mild flushing.
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Mommy has to help her in and out of her chair now.
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She’s exhausted by other people’s lack of authenticity ps use code AnnieGrace37 to save on YOUR next order from Parade!
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“I realized I couldn’t hack it in the arts world so now I sit in my bed and make mommy wash my hair for me to avoid the pain of failure."
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She totally loved being fat, guys! She’s so sad she’s now the lowest weight she’s ever been. Feeding tube plz.
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She almost gets covid but doesn’t. It's just a cold. KEEP WEARING A MASK EVERYONE!!!
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intestinal dysmotility just like Grace and she’s crying because her GI is just so wonderful and truly listens to her.
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Claiming she had paralysis attacks every week at one point and now she has permanent muscle damage from it. Exercise is her trigger so she can’t do PT. Recall that she claims her potassium drops to the “you are dead” zone during her attacks.
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She’s no longer going to make her whole account about her disabilities.
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Next post: here are the many things I love about my wheelchair!
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And the post after that is an entire day of medical sperging.
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She gets an MRI. Nothing’s wrong.
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Obligatory “no one wants to be friends with because all I do is whine about my health and flake out on plans”
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she’s been avoiding bloodwork because she doesn’t want to get iron that will fix her anemia.
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Lol she’s a she/they now and says she’s been wrestling with gender identity since college. She’s still comfortable ~identifying~ as a woman but also wants YOU to acknowledge that she is more special and unique than that!
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But wait, it gets better. Remember when she did the impulsive breakup haircut thing young women do? That was her first “gender euphoria” moment. A very feminine pixie cut that she got because her boyfriend dumped her and let grow out immediately. And she won’t be going back to that look because while she loved her pixie cut and felt euphoric she also loves her bob.
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Every post is now just an excuse to sneak her influencer code in.
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have fun still masking, I guess.
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She’s moving to an accessible house.
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Why is it ableist to assume you won’t need to use a wheelchair in your early 20s? I assume I won’t get cancer tomorrow because I’m relatively young and healthy with few risk factors. Doesn’t mean I’m bigoted against people with cancer, just that I assume tomorrow’s not the day I find out I have it and I would prefer all subsequent days of my life to also not be the day.
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I’m not kidding, every other post is an advertisement now. I'm so tired of seeing this chick's underwear.
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“sensory issues”
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I love these very necessary items she has listed like decorative wheel covers and makeup brushes.
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Aw man this was her mom’s dream home, wasn’t it? And now this obnoxious little twat is making her move so she can play wheelchair barbie forever.
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Her new lack of migraines is from the migraine glasses we’ve never seen. Check the link in her bio for a discount!
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She shouts out people with rare EDS forms. Unsurprisingly her list is mostly munchies. This one in particular I wish was more active because she claims to have both vEDS and hEDS and also a “half mutation” each for cEDS and Brittle Cornea, which like… what? You can’t be diagnosed with both vEDS and hEDS because hEDS is a clinical diagnosis/diagnosis of exclusion so if you have the symptoms of it with a confirmed diagnosis of something that causes those symptoms they chalk it up to the confirmed diagnosis. Also what the fuck is a half mutation? A VUS? Unfortunately I followed her to every public account and she posts nothing interesting.
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Something also tells me “carter” here doesn’t have cEDS and just wants all the attention she can get.
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Prove you’re more than your illness by integrating it into every facet of your personality!
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Seriously most of what she posts is ads. Who is looking for weird looking illness gremlins on instagram to decide what products to purchase?
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She went from bisexual to pansexual (read: bisexual) to queer (read: bisexual).
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She does this interview. It’s long. Watch it if you want. (I did not). But just from the first seconds I did watch she claims she wakes up paralyzed all the time. The guy interviewing her has fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva, a ridiculously rare illness that is turning his connective tissue to bone. He interviews people with disabilities and naturally the munchies flock to tell him all about their special zebra diseases. Shameless.
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Why are they always gender people?
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“I am an unpleasant self-obsessed person and no one likes me anymore.”
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HI GRACE! Her big meaty paw next to Annie’s little hand makes me giggle. They get rings to commemorate this visit.
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The new house is in Fayetteville, I guess.
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That’s it for this one. Boring, like I said, and like the epitome of "illness influencers" constantly spamming her discount codes. But whatever, let's move on to one of the accounts she told me to follow!
 
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My guess on the "half mutation" thing is they got a test done for those known variants and it came back as different from normal. It's still probably a functional or mostly functional variant of the gene but it's different from the text book "normal" version of the gene. This was probably explained to them and their last remaining shred of decency is preventing them from outright lying and saying they definitely have it but they also want to be special so they said half mutation.

Unless the gene is coding for a specific vital function and any change is incompatible with life then there will be many different variants in the general population that are still doing a good enough job. So maybe her sample didn't match known disease causing variants but it also didn't match the most common healthy versions of the genes. If so, then chances are they have a less common healthy variant.

However, if someone who wasn't a munchie said "half mutation" I'd assume they meant a mutation that reduces function but isn't as bad as the known disease causing mutations. For example if the known disease causing mutation fucked up a protein beyond recognition resulting in it being completely non functional. A minor mutation might slightly change a property of the protein but it's close enough that it can still do its job but it's less effective at its job. Both scenarios are still mutations but the effects are different.

So either it's a misunderstanding or they felt bad outright lying but still wanted to be special.

I haven't really looked into the genetics of EDS so I'm just speculating here
 
My guess on the "half mutation" thing is they got a test done for those known variants and it came back as different from normal. It's still probably a functional or mostly functional variant of the gene but it's different from the text book "normal" version of the gene. This was probably explained to them and their last remaining shred of decency is preventing them from outright lying and saying they definitely have it but they also want to be special so they said half mutation.

Unless the gene is coding for a specific vital function and any change is incompatible with life then there will be many different variants in the general population that are still doing a good enough job. So maybe her sample didn't match known disease causing variants but it also didn't match the most common healthy versions of the genes. If so, then chances are they have a less common healthy variant.

However, if someone who wasn't a munchie said "half mutation" I'd assume they meant a mutation that reduces function but isn't as bad as the known disease causing mutations. For example if the known disease causing mutation fucked up a protein beyond recognition resulting in it being completely non functional. A minor mutation might slightly change a property of the protein but it's close enough that it can still do its job but it's less effective at its job. Both scenarios are still mutations but the effects are different.

So either it's a misunderstanding or they felt bad outright lying but still wanted to be special.

I haven't really looked into the genetics of EDS so I'm just speculating here
I'd assumed half mutation would mean heterozygous at that site, at which point how the "mutant" allele gets expressed will depend on a fuckton of other factors.

But your interpretation makes more sense.
 
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I'd assumed half mutation would mean heterozygous at that site, at which point how the "mutant" allele gets expressed will depend on a fuckton of other factors. But your interpretation makes more sense. for some reason I completely forgot about partial dominance. I guess I was too busy assuming the worst. So a non munchie saying it could be talking about partial dominance but I think a munchie who got that result would just outright say "I have the mutant allele!" and would be over joyed. How unlucky would someone have to be to have EDS and multiple other alleles with heterozygous incomplete dominance? At least one of their parents would be symptomatic too.

EDIT: I briefly looked into EDS genetics and it seems like most known variants fit into a dominant or recessive inheritance pattern with maybe 1 that doesn't fit either and could have partial dominance.

Something interesting I found is the test result can come back with "Variant of unknown significance". Which means you have a variant but it's not known to be pathogenic or benign. Pretty much just "you have a variant we haven't proven is harmful or not". They can assign risk to VUS based on what they predict the variant does to the expression of the protein. For example one EDS variant causes harmful effects by fucking with the glycine in the protein so if your VUS messes with glycine then that'd have more risk. Or if your variant caused a frame shift or deleted a bunch of shit then that'd be high risk for pathogenic effects. So this munchie probably received VUS test results and run with it (assuming they are just stretching the truth and not outright lying).
 
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Something interesting I found is the test result can come back with "Variant of unknown significance". Which means you have a variant but it's not known to be pathogenic or benign. Pretty much just "you have a variant we haven't proven is harmful or not". They can assign risk to VUS based on what they predict the variant does to the expression of the protein. For example one EDS variant causes harmful effects by fucking with the glycine in the protein so if your VUS messes with glycine then that'd have more risk. Or if your variant caused a frame shift or deleted a bunch of shit then that'd be high risk for pathogenic effects. So this munchie probably received VUS test results and run with it (assuming they are just stretching the truth and not outright lying).
yeah this is what I was saying in the post. A lot of them get genetics tests hoping something will turn up that they can use to legitimize themselves and what they end up with is non-pathogenic mutations on the genes that control collagen production. So they have a COL1A5 mutation and start claiming they have classical EDS, but really they have some random variation that probably does little or nothing. It's gotta be pretty common in the overall human population to have these unknown variants just based on how many chicks in this thread end up with them.* I've just never heard them refer to it as a "half-mutation" and was a little apprehensive about saying that's what she was claiming when she also says she has vEDS. If she's saying the BCS and cEDS are VUSs, it implies that she has a pathogenic variant for vEDS, which I don't believe she has. She seems like just another ED-to-munchie pipeline attention seeking idiot. But I'm not smart enough to know what else she could possibly mean here, and maybe the answer is "neither is she."

(*Just off the top of my head in the "munchies we watch who have used a VUS to claim really real disease:
-our resident oversharing retard factory Rusty Marble claims a COL1A5 mutation but has admit it's a VUS.
-Just My Genes who starved herself to death a few years ago showed genetics tests with a COL3A1 mutation and claimed vEDS but it was a VUS
-Fit Vegan Ginger claims two mutated CFTR genes as proof she has cystic fibrosis, but neither of them cause CF. One's a nothingburger and the other has a slight association with pancreatitis.
-Jamie Bruce/zebrajemma claims a COL1A2 (I think) mutation causes an extraordinarily rare crossover disease of EDS and Osteogenesis imperfecta (brittle bone disease) when really she's just an anorexic moron and capital-M Munchie who destroyed her leg bones through unnecessary surgery, malnutrition, bracing, and refusing to bear weight on them
-Cheyanne up there has used VUSs to claim a hilarious array of genetic diseases that would leave her a potato if she actually had them along with the old "heterozygous mutation" line)
 
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i'm fuzzy on the specifics but there is some genuine fuckery going on with the nhs in wales, basically if there is no specialist in wales, getting a referral to england can be a nightmare. for example, based on a quick google, countess of chester no longer accepts elective referrals from wales, so fuck you if you live 10 miles away but on the wrong side of the border.

i did have it explained to me by a welsh doctor, who despite his better understanding of the processes involved was unable to fathom how to get treatment that isn't actually done in wales, so actually needed to be done in england, and ended up paying privately. some of it comes down to the clinical commissioning groups i think. i dunno. i'm not defending AEA in general, but there is a grain of truth in that claim.
That Countess of Chester thing happened over bills that they refused to pay. English(correct postcode) Countess of Chester patients are funded by NHS England and over the border they should be funded by NHS Wales except NHS Wales decided repeatedly that they weren't going to pay the amount they'd agreed upon. The last straw was a outpatient clinic bill in the millions that they simply refused to pay, as a result you can only get emergency care and shipped off when stable. Any after care is done in Welsh hospitals and services.

The biggest problem is that NHS Wales patients have their budget allocated differently to NHS England, for example in Wales and Scotland prescriptions are free, in England you pay £9.65 per item. Waiting lists are much longer as they are not as able to see as many outpatients due to lack of clinic space, this was previously solved by patients being seen sooner in England. Criteria are often different too, say for eligibility for IVF or certain treatments. Often a case has to be submitted by a doctor to NHSW in order for a patient to be referred over the border and treatment is now paid in advance.

worked in a border hospital
 
Today I have brought you a headache.
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This person was originally posted on reddit, the above post was all that was posted from this person. I wanted to do a little bit of a deeper dive, however I do not have the time, desire, or sheer willpower to fully archive their blog. So here's a Greatest Hits for everyone.

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Mac is a multi-pronouned individual who claims to suffer from seronegative ankylosing spondylitis that also does not show up on imaging. They also claim brain damage.

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Mac believes anyone who wants opioids for any reason should be able to access them, at no cost. They also believe the opioid epidemic is a lie. (This is their top post of all time.)

What else is a lie? Conversion disorder.
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Mac has a FAQ tag where they respond to questions from anonymous users. One of their FAQ posts is an informative guide about how to successfully munch, and how to lie to your doctor.
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Of course, they believe every disabled person feels as if they "aren't disabled enough" and doubt their own legitimacy.

Miscellaneous reblogs from other cripplepunks.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with someone using a fidget toy or a weighted blanket if they aren't autistic, or consuming media made by autistic creators. The issue is that people keep misconstruing Dr. Devon Price's work and saying that if you identify with any part of the autistic experience for any reason, you MUST be autistic too.

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"Healthy able bodied people don't fantasize about wheelchairs" - no, but able bodied people with munchausens do. Just because you feel something does not make it true. Facts =/= feelings. Wanting a mobility aid =/= needing a mobility aid.

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I have less to say about the post and more to say about what Mac added in the notes. "Everyone who wants one should be able to use any aids no matter why." So if someone wanted to use a wheelchair purely because it looks like fun, Mac wouldn't claim that it's ableist?

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Act worse than you really are! Let yourself decline! Never push yourself to be better than you are!

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"My disability IS my personality!"

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Of course they reblogged this from a BPD blog.

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Diagnosis is a form of violence, guys!
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that guy is fucking whacko and people like him are putting the nhs under more strain than it needs right now.

the whole thing about going to a&e lying is ridiculous. a&e doctors are there to get you through your current problem requiring immediate attention. and don't think the nurses etc don't watch while you're not being seen to. they totally do and no amount of lying will get drs to believe you if nurses have watched you several hours and report something contradictory to what you claim. its not medical trauma to be discharged, its a fucking relief.

his use of rollator or motorised wheelchair also gives him away. i had a relation with a broken back, paralysed down one leg (it was once broken for a week before she noticed, she had to lift it into cars, never complained). used walking sticks, a push wheelchair for longer distances if someone was there to push, and the local shop mobility scheme until the day she died. that is what specialists recommended for a traumatic, incurable injury and it no doubt did her the world of good keepng her conditioning in the rest of her body. KFS has reported on many people using a wheelchair for frivolous reasons so i thought it might be a good contrast to bring up someone who did not despite severe mobility problems.

hiding behind being Just Some Guy and not a medical professional doesn't absolve him of his crimes. especially when he advocates lying. what if someone reading that really does have something wrong, and their lies send drs down a wrong path?
 
I've long known that munchies teach each other the best way to fail tests and gain munchie toys, but such comprehensive and blatant "lie to your doctor" advice is something else.

Mind you, I guess to munchies it's all a means to an end as long as they get that sweet sweet diagnosis at the end of it.
What a find, a truly disgusting individual. Well done.
 
the whole thing about going to a&e lying is ridiculous. a&e doctors are there to get you through your current problem requiring immediate attention. and don't think the nurses etc don't watch while you're not being seen to. they totally do and no amount of lying will get drs to believe you if nurses have watched you several hours and report something contradictory to what you claim. its not medical trauma to be discharged, its a fucking relief.
Hell, even in his own words his one weird tip to successfully lie to doctors isn't working out too hot. Congrats you got...Tramadol? And NSAIDs? Damn king you a big money hustla now.

I don't think munchies realize that people working in emergency medicine see an absolute metric shit ton of patients every shift and we know all the dumb tricks.
 
So Annie Grace recently made a list of people with rare forms of EDS you can follow on instagram. Shockingly, a few seem to be telling the truth, showing off the symptoms of their claimed variants but mostly living normal lives. A few more are your typical “I have this ultra rare disease but don’t owe you proof, also I’m a special gender and pansexual and polyamorous and I have a host of mental illnesses and alters and dress like I’m trying to blend into someone’s acid trip, but it’s NOT ABOUT ATTENTION!!” They’re boring and don’t give us the drama, let’s not waste our time.

And then one decidedly normal-looking account, Abby Sams, was claiming to have both cEDS (Classical type) and mEDS (myopathic type) and that obviously deserves a closer look. A quick browse of her shit will show you she’s a married, employed parathlete who has genetic confirmation of her diagnoses. She has a college degree and a decent job, her husband appears to be a full equal partner in their relationship instead of a 'service human', and she has hobbies that have nothing to do with being sick. Her twin sister Nicole is also sick, but also just seems normal, tragic haircut notwithstanding. She has a job, she lives alone, she manages her illness just fine and has hobbies that aren't just "look how sick I am!"

We're not here for the quick browse. We're here for the deep dive that uncovers over a decade of competition between twin sisters who both want to be the special one.

Let me just get this out of the way: about a year ago someone sent an account to my little munchie research chat, a girl that was claiming to have two rare variants of EDS at the same time. Classical and Vascular. At first it was "ok munchie” and “let's keep an eye on this one because she's going to be funny." She fit the type. Young, white, middle-class American girl whose parents held her hand through life. All her friends were instagram spoonies. She was dramatic in every post. Then came the proof: an actual genetics testing panel from a legitimate diagnostics firm that showed a multi-gene deletion involving the genes COL3A1 and COL5A2. She really did have two variants of EDS along with a host of other problems caused by a massive fuck up in her DNA. Things can go catastrophically wrong in human development, things that seem like they are so far outside the realm of the possible may be, and you can’t always assume an improbable story is a lie.

Which is all to say I went into this thinking, "could this one also be telling the truth? Did the zygote that split to form these twin girls have a big old Fuck You coded in its DNA, causing both of them to inherit some wretched connective tissue diseases?"

No, lol.

Nicole Sams starts her account (currently @thatstudydog) in August 2013 with teen girl fluff. She’s a 16 year old homeschooler in her last years of high school trying to brand herself as a super ambitious and organized student, the kind of girl who hops out of bed early and spends hours color-coding her notes before school.
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Nicole is a total geek into every standard teen nerd fandom from anime to Marvel capeshit to Dr. Who.
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She’s also a youtuber making videos under the name Danni Sams but her entire account has been wiped save a few inconsequential vides. It was apparently a lot of cosplay and nerdy skits.
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She’s a twin. Nicole’s twin sister Abby is also on instagram as @abbysamsd. Her account also starts in August 2013 and is way more active than Nicole’s. They may look fraternal but they're actually identical. Abby just takes infinitely better care of herself than Nicole.
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Abby prides herself in healthy eating.
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And modesty, although she'll often show herself in very short running shorts so I guess that doesn't count.
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The twins are very religious. Abby has a blog where she writes about having briefly gone to public school but being bullied by her peers about her faith after arguing against evolution with her teachers. They now homeschool but apparently either do some kind of homeschool co-op or attend some classes at school as they occasionally do have to go to a school in the morning, which Nicole, of course, complains about.
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Abby's a letterman at the local public school but this may be a residual from when they attended there or a situation where they are allowed to attend extracurriculars at the public school.
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Abby works out a lot. She surfs, skateboards, and freedives too. The twins are basically polar opposites. Nicole is shy and nerdy while Abby is outgoing and extremely active.
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She participates in fundraisers for cancer kids and donates her hair to make a wig for a kid.
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She loves Disney, Jesus, and Chick-fil-a.
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And The Fault in our Stars, teen sickfic romance about teenagers with cancer and they’re in love and then they’re dead.
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#gayrights. Ok, wasn't expecting that but
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Abby's first health complaint other than normal colds: migraines in December 2013
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Nicole is working out with Abby this one time and only this one time.
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Abby claims she's lactose intolerant and at various times also claims she eats a sugar-free and gluten-free diet as well but it’s usually framed as just an extension of her healthy eating habits.
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She’s reading a book about Esther Grace Earl, a kid who died of cancer.
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Abby hikes and kayaks.
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She breaks her surfboard and bonks her head on the way down but she’s alright!
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Smiley for Kiley was about another kid with cancer, Kiley Myers. She was a child actress I guess?
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Abby goes to the ER for her migraines. I can make out Toradol, topamax, prednisone and Reglan. All of them are used in treating migraines.
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She’s also claiming the limited diet she’s been on is for the migraines. I think that's a thing?
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But she's not real strict with it in any case.
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Meanwhile Nicole has depression and she’s treating it with herbs.
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She's trying out for roller derby.
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And stalking Type 1 diabetics on youtube for some reason.
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And crying,
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Abby gets hurt surfing again. She’s fine! Nothing to worry about!
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Nicole starts looking like she got a case of the genders.
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She’s eating peanut butter and potato chips sandwiches which just reminds me of Ally Sheedy’s character in the Breakfast Club making a Pixi Stix and Captain Crunch sandwich for attention.
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Nicole still has depression and now she has trichotillomania, which she announces by showing a bald patch and acting like she was blindsided by the revelation that she has this condition. You kind of notice you’re pulling your hair out, friend. You might do it idly while watching TV but it’s not like you go into a fugue state and wake up bald.
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She buys cancer hair wraps to hide it.
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Just in time to go to Jesus camp and show it off to the nice church people. No shit.
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Also beanies and fidget toys.
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She’s getting her hair cut off so she can’t pull it out anymore.
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Lmao okay teen girls are dramatic about their hair, but like... you'll see.
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Nicole gets her wig and her femininity back.
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Nicole is also obsessed with cancer kids, unsurprisingly.
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Abby is hiking to film a short film and climbing some trees.
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Coming out as what? And why you gotta ruin grandpa's birthday with it?
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This Beckie0 girl is a youtuber who made one of those “selfie a day for x years” videos documenting her trichotillomania and dermatillomania, where she’d show that her hair started to grow back in, then something stressful would happen and she’d pull it all out again, shave what was left, and start over, rinse and repeat. So this is why Nicole suddenly has trich and it’s an all-consuming disorder that requires her to shave her head. Beckie, for the record, may be one of the only people whose mental health improved under quarantine. When she stopped having to go out in public every day, she stopped stressing about if people would notice her hair or lack thereof, so she stopped thinking about the fact that she pulls her hair out, so she stopped pulling her hair out.
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Nicole self-harmed but has recently stopped. Also claiming she's dyslexic, which she never mentions again and seems to have no issues with.
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She’s still obsessed with her hair and now wearing cancer awareness shirts all the time.
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She's taking more herbs for depression.
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Oh no, Nicole is a fan of Ashley Mardell aka Ash Hardell, obnoxious non-dysphoric gender snowflake who recently proved she was true n’ honest trans by carrying a pregnancy to term and giving birth, the most female thing one can do.
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Still crying about muh mentuls.
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But whatever, she’s feeling better, no longer pulling her hair out, and back to skating.
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NOTICE ME ASHLEY!!!
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Abby is relaxing her diet even more.
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She does yoga and is decent at it, but she doesn’t really like it.
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She really likes lifting and crossfit
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Nicole is by far our more active instagrammer at this point, at least in terms of posting. She shows off her cutting scars.
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She has dermatillomania.
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She wants to be in a relationship with a boy.
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>tumblr. Well there’s your problem.
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She has anxiety and panic attacks.
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Nicole loves deaf culture and has been learning ASL since she was a kid.
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She still wants a boyfriend.
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She’s genderfluid :story:
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she gets deep about bandaids.
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She cries so much her eyes are puffy and her throat feels like razor blades.
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She’s a vegetarian, but not a healthy one.
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This doesn’t look vegetarian. I know there’s been some advances in the faux meat department but that looks like real chiggin to me.
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Kylie the cancer kid dies and both girls post condolences. The annoying one posts black and white photos of her crying over it for attention.
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She’s constantly making dramatic posts about how she’s so sick but it’s always a cold. At this point she’s updating insta several times a day to complain about shit.
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She's been saving up to get a ferret as an ESA. She finally gets it. Her ESA ferret is deaf. Everything I read said that this is for real, that ferrets with Blaze pattern fur have about a 75% chance of being totally deaf and that it's the same genetic condition that causes Waardenburg Syndrome in humans. But really, both girls are interested in deaf culture the same way they're obsessed with cancer kids and I don't know that I believe she was blindsided by this. I think she picked this ferret knowing it would have a very good chance of being deaf. If I'm even less generous, we know Nicole openly seeks the attention of youtubers she watches and obnoxious gender-alien gigafaggot "Stef" Sanjati was making very popular videos about both his gender LARP and his real Waardenburg diagnosis at the time.
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Whatever the case one thing is for sure: Nicole is absolutely ridiculous and seeks attention however she can.
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Meanwhile Abby is just posting about crossfit, photography/filming, surfing, travel and occasionally mentions having migraines and being medicated for them. She is clearly the functional twin.
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Nicole has no sleep schedule. Abby does not seem to have this issue.
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She’s recovering!
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Abby’s still working out and getting those gains.
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Nicole’s wearing a mask for seasonal allergies.
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TFW FRIENDS ARE TIRED OF MUH MENTULZ.
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Oh look she’s seeing an actual psych to get actual medication. Progress!
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I just had to laugh. Weeb eating chicken noodle soup with chopsticks. I also vaguely remember “eat everything with chopsticks to slow you down” being one of those pro-ana-lite weight loss tips circulating on social media at the time.
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MY TUMBLR GENDER IS VERY IMPORTANT. All her friends are females who pretend they’re not females. It’s a social contagion.
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Nicole also posts pictures of her that just say "boy" or "I'm a boy" and I think this was her way of letting her friends know which pronouns to use for her on any given day because it was subject to change without warning.
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Nicole thinks it’s unfair that famous youtubers get book offers “left and write” but she can’t get a single publisher to look at her vanity novel she’s been writing for three years! It’s NOT FAIR!!!! Nothing ever goes write for her!!!
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she can’t function without her meds she just started taking. Escitalopram aka Lexapro, SSRI antidepressant.
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All her friends abandon her. LMAO I know she’s a teenager but holy fuck.
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On June 2, Nicole also starts having migraines. Right to level 10. Still updating insta tho.
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While Nicole is crying about being bored and her terrible case of the genders, Abby the functional twin is in fucking Tanzania volunteering at a school in a town where there’s no running water. She’s got a kid there she’s been communicating with since she was very young and they finally meet for the first time. Sounds like one of those Sally Struthers sponsor-a-starving-kid-in-Africa situations.
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Meanwhile Nicole is taking a picture of her lexapro bottle on top of a YA novel about schizophrenia. She has panic attacks triggered by a fictional suicide attempt in the book then claims she also has a manic episode from it. Because she has no personality outside muh mentulz.
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She’s muh mentulzing harder than ever now.
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She's got an internet "girlfriend". Pretty sure this kid has Waardenburg Syndrome and found her through hashtags while talking about the ferret but I'm not sure. Looks like most of her internet history has been deleted.
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Meat makes her sick and now she’s all pukey.
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I guess the chicken she documents herself eating all the time doesn’t count.
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She’s a they/them now.
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Meanwhile Abby’s getting psyched…. for college! She’s visited her dream school, the University of North Carolina - Wilmington and can’t wait to go. She wants to be a marine biologist.
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Back home she's still living her best healthiest life.
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The twins go to the beach together and Nicole does not spend the whole vacation sulking and crying.
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Only part of it.
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They’re home from the beach and now they’re at Jesus camp.
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Nicole spends the whole time crying about a friend of hers who necked himself and showing off her self harm scars.
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Abby’s back at it in the gym!
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And Nicole is back at it crying in her bed.
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She’s is also a fan of The Fault in Our Stars!
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Abby spends six hours in the gym in one day because she’s training hard for a competition.
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Nicole can’t figure out how to make a grilled cheese.
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Abby’s squatting her twin and kayaking
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Nicole’s crying because her new books haven't been delivered on time.
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Abby’s showing off her lifting callouses.
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Nicole’s showing off her psych meds.
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And crying about her hair.
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And skinwalking cancer kids again.
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Abby’s purity ring gets stolen lmao. Sometimes it’s hard to remember just how religious the twins are given Abby's very normal interests and Nicole's tumblr identity.
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Nicole is complaining about pain again.
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She can’t walk. She has to see a doctor.
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It’s just a dermatologist and she gets a shot in an embarrassing place haha. I’m guessing she got an inflamed ingrown hair in her groin or something minor like that.
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Abby goes white water rafting and kills it in the gym.
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Nicole whines about another cold and shows off her impeccable diet.
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Abby is doing cancer fundraisers at her gym.
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Nicole is applying for art schools and claims UArts in Philadelphia really wants her. She plans to major in youtuber.
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Abby places second in her crossfit competition. Those things on her legs are compression/support sleeves for weight lifting, not braces for injuries.
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Nicole finally figures out how to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
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Nicole gets literature from the Art Institutes, a for-profit private school that once had sixty campuses across the US. She's excited!!! AI were notorious for accepting anyone, saddling them with enormous debt, and shitting them out with useless degrees that were not worth the paper they were printed on. Students were lied to about how much the program would cost and told inflated estimates of what they could earn once they had their degree. All but seven campuses closed after multiple lawsuits. Most recently, a group of AI students won a debt cancellation supreme court case because they were actually defrauded.
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Nicole shows how they were able to do this: gimmicky nerd shit that appealed to the tumblr “artist” set who thought people cared about their anime doodles.
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Abby’s excited that the children she helped in Tanzania have each received a mosquito net and other “luxuries” and talks about how life-changing it is for these children to get a real education, so much so that they walk miles to attend school.
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Nicole “adopts” a stuffed animal and sucks chocolate off her fingers like an actual toddler.
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And picks at her backne.
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And cries.
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Nicole would like a service dog before she goes to college lmao. Of course she would. She has no job or money so she needs YOU to pay for everything. Gib. (dead link)
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And she wants this because she’s found CF vlogger Mary Frey’s socials and Mary has a service dog.
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She's giving away her emotional support ferret.
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Abby give us a positive Grey’s Anatomy sign and…
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ER trip! No one can figure out what’s wrong.
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Nicoles judging “prospects” for her accessory dog which she somehow feels she's competent to do. I'll spare you weeks of her describing dogs.
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She might get a "professionally" trained dog instead! (spoiler: she does not.)
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She is still obsessed with deaf people and mary frey. Like.. really obsessed with Mary.
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But she got into Columbia College Chicago, her top pick.
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Abby make this post about the bags under her eyes, which has that virtue signalling image description thing, but overall she's doing fine.
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Nicole is, unsurprisingly, still talking about her mental health, but nowhere near as much as she used to.
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Abby makes a video about why you need to learn ASL even if you’re not deaf. it's been deleted.
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The twins get tattoos days after they turn 18. Nicole’s is a Peter Pan quote and Abby’s are pediatric cancer awareness on her thigh and the outline of Tanzania on her arm.
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Abby goes to Alabama on a whim and enjoys some stand up paddleboarding with her normal friends.
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Nicole suddenly develops a deep interest in yoga and starts doing it for hours at a time. She went from barely touching her toes to this in three months of daily effort. She’s also heat intolerant. Gee, I wonder what she's setting up here.
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Abby signs on stage.
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Nicole is still just obsessing about Mary Frey. It's really creepy and weird just how many times she makes posts about Mary and tags her for attention.
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They graduate high school.
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They do a CF walk in Mary's honor. Childhood cancer is out, CF is in!
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In June Nicole adopts Mercy, a fully grown pit bull/lab shelter mutt, to be her SD. The dog will alert to panic attacks, do DPT, and interrupt her nervous habits. Prong collar.
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Abby’s back in Africa volunteering with the school again. She is in her element and hopes she'll keep coming back year after year.
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Nicole is taking her puppy to obedience classes.
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Abby travels solo to LA to go to Vidcon. She'll be back in LA soon.
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And Nicole travels solo to Chicago. She does not bring the dog.
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Notice me Mary!!! But hey, at least she’s no longer tagging the gender people in every post.
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She’s starting public access with Mercy.
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She wants to join her college’s… Quiddich team. ok. I guess nerd fitness is better than no fitness.
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BRO! DOOD! MARY NOTICED HER!
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Mercy gets her CGC.
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Nicole moves to Chicago with her puppy.
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Abby goes to the US Virgin Islands. She can’t wait to live here.
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Nicole takes her dog out in public and it shits in a store. She cries. Also keep your goddamned dogs off the escalator. It is dangerous and scary and they do not understand it. There’s a reason a lot of SD orgs say their dogs can’t be taken on escalators and it’s because it’s real easy for them to get their tails or paws caught in a moving part and end up with a degloving incident or worse.
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Abby comes home from the Virgin Islands and decides to move to LA. She doesn't explain it now, but she's gotten a short-term film gig in LA (likely while she was there for VidCon). She's planning to work in LA for a semester then start a marine bio program in the Virgin Islands once the gig is over.
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We'll stop here. The twins are about to be separated for the first time in their lives and it's going to change everything.
 
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I'm surprised to know that Bella Hadid hasn't been on here. This bitch has been crying for attention and posting typical munchy pictures of herself for a while now, at first vaguely being wired up and not saying anything, its all probably & most likely to masq her eating disorder, she's been known to post photos of herself crying for years now before starting to fake illness (Lyme disease -- a celeb favourite and probably a fake illness). Shes been in rehab for alcoholism / mental illnesses. Genuine question, has anyone of you guys met someone with a legitmate diagnosis of chronic Lyme disease or is it a munchy celeb favourite?
 
From my understanding the only real "Chronic Lyme" is the potential long term damage from having had Lyme, namely joint damage and arthritis but it can be pretty broad. You would treat these things with the treatments for those things though, not lifelong antibiotics or anything- the Lyme is over with. You just have lasting damage, same way you can get lasting damage from any illness. If someone gets a bad heart and skin ages after chemo, that lasts after the cancer goes fully into remission, we don't say they have "chronic cancer" and need lifelong chemo. They need a heart doctor and a dermatologist.

I think Lyme is such a popular scam because it is linked to some event totally out of your control. Also again the broad potential effects.

It's literally a munchie spider man story.
"One day, I was bitten by a tick, and THAT unknowingly caused me to become TOTALLY DISABLED for the REST OF MY LIFE!"

...most Lyme munchies never report an actual lyme tick bite happening besides as a retroactive delusion (the time I went to the doctor over a infected mosquitio bites when I was 6? LYME ORIGIN EVENT!) or lie, and a good amount live in areas or even continents with no Lyme disease.

From experience crazy people also are highly suggestible about things involving bugs and pests too, it's hard coded in humans I guess. Even if there are no bug sightings or anything, crazy people are wont to believe it's a tiny evil influence in their bodies and they're infested.
 
Genuine question, has anyone of you guys met someone with a legitmate diagnosis of chronic Lyme disease or is it a munchy celeb favourite?
It is fake. These retards often never had lyme and even live in places that don't have it and have never traveled to places where they do. Lyme is curable and you don't need yrs of antibiotics like these freaks.
 
Okay this
“I have this ultra rare disease but don’t owe you proof, also I’m a special gender and pansexual and polyamorous and I have a host of mental illnesses and alters and dress like I’m trying to blend into someone’s acid trip, but it’s NOT ABOUT ATTENTION!!”
is the best description of any - pick one - of the subjects featured here I have ever heard. Also any number of the subjects of other Kiwi boards as well. It's always some version of this. ALWAYS.
 
It is fake. These retards often never had lyme and even live in places that don't have it and have never traveled to places where they do. Lyme is curable and you don't need yrs of antibiotics like these freaks.
Yep, my brother in law had Lyme disease last year after going out hunting.
A deer tick got him, he developed the classic bullseye rash and felt hellish. Two weeks of antibiotics later and he was back climbing mountains within a month. He's been grand ever since.

It's been a major munchie attractor for a long time but it's being overtaken by the combo platter these days.
 
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