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what they said VS what they can show is vastly different, so when its words under oath being relied on, they better be saying "i saw an alien from another planet, with my own 2 eyeballs" is my take on Grusch
it sounds like "non human biologicals" could absolutely mean some kind of Earthly organic computing experiments mentioned earlier, its far more likely than aliens in my opinion
especially considering Grusch downgraded his claim from alien bodies at alien craft crash sites on NewsNation, to "non human biologicals" under oath and wouldnt go any further in a public setting, despite having previously gone further on NewsNation which is most certainly a public setting
when somebody who isnt connected to the Knapps, Bigalows and Jeremy Corbells of the world comes forward ill be pretty happy
the real test will be what Grusch does now, i would be very surprised if he isnt James Fox's next big documentary project
James Fox is absolutely entranced with this guy and has gone full soyjak over him, so thats not really a fair prediction
 
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E2 Hawkeye pilot T.R. Matson speaks about USS Nimitz​

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T.R. Matson has over two decades of both military and civilian aviation experience. This experience covers time in the U.S. Navy flying the E-2C Hawkeye and F/A-18C Hornet on combat tours, as well as multiple training tours as a T-45 Goshawk Instructor and Landing Signals Officer (LSO). On the civilian front T.R. Matson flies for a major airline.

 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Bullshit is happening constantly, like concurrent legal troubles for Trump and Hunter Biden, so people will say a UFO hearing is a distraction from something no matter what day it's held on unless it's a Christmas Day special. Hunter Biden specifically was said to get more coverage from the MSM networks than the last hearing. You also have Tim Burchett claiming that a bunch of procedural hurdles were thrown at the hearing to try to derail it before it began. While the hearing was bipartisan, it's coming out of a Republican-led House from people who aren't exactly friendly towards Biden (such as Burchett and Null's would-be representative Matt Gaetz). It's transparent: the believers and doubters are going to see whatever they want to see.

What matters is if it's real or not, and we probably won't see any developments for a while. When we do, we could see the biggest "distraction" yet.
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Trust me. I wanna believe. I've been fascinated with UFO phenomena ever since I was a little kid. I want there to be something, but I'm also a lot more skeptical and a lot more leery of the Feds than I was.
 
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F/A-18 Hornet Pilot C.W. Lemoine states he saw "Notices" during USS Theodore Roosevelt encounters regarding UAP​

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C.W. Lemoine joined the Air Force Reserve where he flew the F-16 and accumulated one thousand hours including a combat tour in Iraq. Lemoine later transferred to the Navy Reserve where he flew F/A-18A+ Hornets for four years. In 2018, he transferred back to the Air Force Reserve where he flew the T-38A as an Adversary Air Pilot for four years. He currently flies for a legacy U.S. airline.

(I realized my clip might make it hard to follow, but when it cuts, they've moved on to talking about the USS Theodore Roosevelt, not the Nimitz. I just wanted to also clip the portion of them speaking highly of Fravor since I thought that was important as well, especially in the context of my previous clip)


"Gonky" confirms the Notices as well, although I can't seem to find his real name currently.


And to backtrack for a moment, T.R. Matson said he didn't think there was a E2 Hawkeye present during the Tic Tac Encounter, though he later states it was a long time ago and might not remember, but David Fravor and the rest of the Pilots say the E2 Hawkeye was out there.

So the E2 Hawkeye Pilot and Crew who were operating during the Tic Tac encounter remain at large.

I think T.R. Matson knows who the pilots were but will not say (and I don't blame him). Just my opinion, of course.

T.R. Matson is an interesting one to watch during this podcast. He looks extremely reluctant to even mention that he was on the Nimitz during the time, very reluctantly mentions some details (which I clipped above), and then sort of pacifies himself throughout the rest of the podcast throwing out the same somewhat thoughtless joke ("it's a distraction").

He also says very briefly that he knows he's going to lose followers now.

It's fascinating to see just how terrified all these people are when it comes to talking about this. And it's extremely evident that they've all at least tangentially witnessed something surrounding the topic.

Very fascinating.
 
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GradeAGobbleDeeGook said:
what they said VS what they can show is vastly different, so when its words under oath being relied on, they better be saying "i saw an alien from another planet, with my own 2 eyeballs" is my take on Grusch
it sounds like "non human biologicals" could absolutely mean some kind of Earthly organic computing experiments mentioned earlier, its far more likely than aliens in my opinion
especially considering Grusch downgraded his claim from alien bodies at alien craft crash sites on NewsNation, to "non human biologicals" under oath and wouldnt go any further
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I think the Government UFO releases are the minimum drip feed stuff in order to shift uncomfortable things out of the news cycle.

There's been several NASA/CIA Contractor whistleblowers over the years that have said they are prepared to go before congress to testify that yes there are Aliens, but also that Governments are conducting their own experiments splicing DNA. I mean we already know they are doing gain of function research.

The inventor of mRNA just came out and said he believes the COVID shots were a planned depopulation avenue. This is the guy that worked in the biological regulatory bodies. So if they are willing to do that. Surely Governments are willing to try and create a Deathclaw?

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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Short BBC interview with Grusch and his former-ICIG current-lawyer Charles McCullough:
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Nothing new, but one of his answers seems to bolster recent speculation that Grusch does have some first hand knowledge of UAPs via satellite imagery from an AI powered data collection and surveillance project called Sentient. In particular, people are pointing to a heavily redacted FOIA document on The Black Vault detailing a "Tic Tac" detection from Sentient in May of 2021 that was shared with the UAPTF when he was still in it. (The report also mentions another nearby object and speculates that it might be controlling the tic tac craft.)
 

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Even if aliens aren't real, I'm surprised at the amount of people who don't care that apparently our government has a bunch of powerful people in office that believe this shit and are spending millions in tax dollars funding investigations into this subject.

If you believe that those UAP are made by us, then we should all be furious that our government has been keeping such advanced technology from us. Imagine how far we could be as a civilization if we had access to that kind of tech.

If you believe the UAP are made by our foreign rivals, then we should all be freaking out that Russia/China have such advanced tech and that they are openly flying over our military bases and disabling our military vehicles. That is a literal threat to our nation's security.

No matter how you slice it, this shit is a big deal and everyone should support getting to the bottom of whatever the fuck is going on, who's wasting our tax dollars and who's trying to stonewall anyone who tries to get answers. This is not the time to be apathetic and give a lazy "it's just a distraction" take.
 
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Kujo Jotaro said:
The longer this goes on the more it smells like a bunch of horseshit. AYY LMAO's aren't real, never have been, never will be; if your hot take is "of course we're not alone in the universe" you're a midwit normie who deserves a couple of soyjaks made of you.
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I do remember the 1988 John Carpenter film They Live suggesting the adversaries are aliens themselves. Could it be a conspiracy the conspiracies are made to distract the population with overriding information to not interfere with even more plans? Because to me, I just go straight to the heart and that's the so called foundation to the house of cards.
 
Yeah that's my gripe with reverse engineered little green men tech, especially the claims that they could fly the saucers in the 70s already.

Doesn't make sense. If they had been at it that long and could fly the saucers that early, by now they would not have F 35 but Ayyy 9000s.
 
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Even if aliens aren't real, I'm surprised at the amount of people who don't care that apparently our government has a bunch of powerful people in office that believe this shit and are spending millions in tax dollars funding investigations into this subject.

If you believe that those UAP are made by us, then we should all be furious that our government has been keeping such advanced technology from us. Imagine how far we could be as a civilization if we had access to that kind of tech.

If you believe the UAP are made by our foreign rivals, then we should all be freaking out that Russia/China have such advanced tech and that they are openly flying over our military bases and disabling our military vehicles. That is a literal threat to our nation's security.

No matter how you slice it, this shit is a big deal and everyone should support getting to the bottom of whatever the fuck is going on, who's wasting our tax dollars and who's trying to stonewall anyone who tries to get answers. This is not the time to be apathetic and give a lazy "it's just a distraction" take.
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I would understand the "this isn't as important as xyz in the grand scheme of my life as a lowly serf" if most people weren't apathetic about literally everything else as well. For all the complaining I see most people do about the housing market, food prices, gas prices, job market, healthcare, muh environment etc etc, I don't actually see anyone actively doing anything about any of that stuff. Often they just keep voting for more of the same.
I really want to see what the spooks are up to, though. Not wanting to know what they're doing because ayys probably aren't here is like not wanting to know about MK Ultra because psychic powers probably aren't real.
 
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Whiskeybone said:
I would understand the "this isn't as important as xyz in the grand scheme of my life as a lowly serf" if most people weren't apathetic about literally everything else as well. For all the complaining I see most people do about the housing market, food prices, gas prices, job market, healthcare, muh environment etc etc, I don't actually see anyone actively doing anything about any of that stuff. Often they just keep voting for more of the same.
I really want to see what the spooks are up to, though. Not wanting to know what they're doing because ayys probably aren't here is like not wanting to know about MK Ultra because psychic powers probably aren't real.
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Hard agree. I see it on here too with people saying it's pointless for Null to keep trying to keep the site up or go to court over it. This kind of mindset is exactly what allows corrupt people to stay in power and keep buttfucking us. Thank god Jersh isn't the type to give up or this site would have died a long time ago.
 
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